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I understand gay pride and all that but honestly how much is to much. I understand from some lines of work you may need to tell your boss or other people in the company. But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife. I just think it's strange to have that much attention on somthng that you eventualy want to just be part of the culture no different from any other type of mairrage.

And there we go again........:(

My question would be: Do "you heteros" never get tired of discussing how bad the gays are?

Seriously.

Oh no that icky gay pride what ever shall we do?! :swoon:

I understand gay pride and all that but honestly how much is to much. I understand from some lines of work you may need to tell your boss or other people in the company. But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife. I just think it's strange to have that much attention on somthng that you eventualy want to just be part of the culture no different from any other type of mairrage.
you don't?
so you never see a straight couple kiss or hold hands? Or how about on TV...you never see a straight couple have a romantic moment?

I have never seen a gay couple go at it in public like I have seen straight couples...not to say it never happens, but usually it doesnt.

Here is the thing of it.

You stop treating homosexuals as subhuman and the pride days will go away.

Firstly, because people generally assume others to be heterosexual until told otherwise. Secondly, because homosexuals do not have all of the same rights as heterosexuals, and still suffer hatred and prejudice because of their orientation.

And finally, where have you actually seen this kind of behaviour? A few prominent gays in the media doesn't mean that all or even most of them act that way.

Exactly, once theres equality, there will be no need for gay pride.

Exactly, once theres equality, there will be no need for gay pride.

I agree with this.

Uhm, you guyz, the OP isnt talking about Pride Marches....

He is still talking nonsense, anyway. But he isnt discussing Pride Marches.:rolleyes:

At the moment when a homosexual puts his penis into an unwilling heterosexual.

Otherwise, there isn't too much.

Lol so it is fine all the hetrosexual love that is shown in public but the second someone mentiones they are gay or show a bit of pda they are attention whores

But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife.

First thing Monday morning, in our office, we all seem to discuss what we each did each weekend, which almost always includes our spouses or significant others. I really can't imagine the conversation without mention of them.

I'd venture that the only people who never hear of other (heterosexual) people's husbands/wives or girlfriends/boyfriends live in a bubble.

I understand gay pride and all that but honestly how much is to much. I understand from some lines of work you may need to tell your boss or other people in the company. But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife. I just think it's strange to have that much attention on somthng that you eventualy want to just be part of the culture no different from any other type of mairrage.
Too much gay pride is when they start marching around with rainbow swastikas on their clothing and advocating "reproduction camps" for us straight folks. Until then it's not a problem.

Too much gay pride is when they start marching around with rainbow swastikas on their clothing and advocating "reproduction camps" for us straight folks. Until then it's not a problem.

LOL :D

At the moment when a homosexual puts his penis into an unwilling heterosexual.

Otherwise, there isn't too much.
^I'm with him... wait... there have been that sort of rape. But I'm with the idea that until it all becomes a matter of us being superior to straights, its fine. We deserve and demand equality... and will do so til we get it.

Too much gay pride is when they start marching around with rainbow swastikas on their clothing and advocating "reproduction camps" for us straight folks. Until then it's not a problem.

QUOTED. FOR. TRUTH.:D

Too much gay pride is when they start marching around with rainbow swastikas on their clothing and advocating "reproduction camps" for us straight folks. Until then it's not a problem.
I can see a lot of straight people being in favour of manditory sex.

I can see a lot of straight people being in favour of manditory sex.


That's why the plan is so ingenius! :fluffle:

There exists a measure for determining excessive pride for any identity group. The moment an identity group has a parade, it has too much pride. Now, I'm not against the concept of being open about who you are, or against the concept of demonstraiting solidarity or numbers. I'm against closing streets. Anyone who wants to close a street in a metropolitan area for so narcissistic a purpose as telling the world why they're so cool is, scientifically speaking, a schmo.

Personally, I blame the whole trend of parades on the Irish. I'm as big a fan of drinking green beer until you puke green as the next guy, but can't you do it on say, the sidewalk? I swear, summer rolls around in Chicago and every three days half the city is blocked off for some kind of parade, street festival, or block party. C'mon people, no one cares that much. Also, what in the hell does a giant inflatable float of a cartoon character have to do with Thanksgiving or Easter? Can someone please explain to me what connection a 100 foot tall Snoopy Juggernaught has to do with sharing or resurrection? Will he provide food and zombie slaves for those who worship at his doghouse altar? Will failure to venerate him in the streets bring his wrath like some horrible sunday newspaper godzilla?

So, in summation, too much gay pride is when gays start acting like Christians, the Irish, and other people who undermine the very fabric of a free and open western nation by blocking off streets and making it harder for me to buy liquor and porn.

Thank You.

There exists a measure for determining excessive pride for any identity group. The moment an identity group has a parade, it has too much pride. Now, I'm not against the concept of being open about who you are, or against the concept of demonstraiting solidarity or numbers. I'm against closing streets. Anyone who wants to close a street in a metropolitan area for so narcissistic a purpose as telling the world why they're so cool is, scientifically speaking, a schmo.

Personally, I blame the whole trend of parades on the Irish. I'm as big a fan of drinking green beer until you puke green as the next guy, but can't you do it on say, the sidewalk? I swear, summer rolls around in Chicago and every three days half the city is blocked off for some kind of parade, street festival, or block party. C'mon people, no one cares that much. Also, what in the hell does a giant inflatable float of a cartoon character have to do with Thanksgiving or Easter? Can someone please explain to me what connection a 100 foot tall Snoopy Juggernaught has to do with sharing or resurrection? Will he provide food and zombie slaves for those who worship at his doghouse altar? Will failure to venerate him in the streets bring his wrath like some horrible sunday newspaper godzilla?

So, in summation, too much gay pride is when gays start acting like Christians, the Irish, and other people who undermine the very fabric of a free and open western nation by blocking off streets and making it harder for me to buy liquor and porn.

Thank You.


That's the best thing I've read all day on NS.

Is something you are born with and cannot change and have no choice whatsoever in a source of pride now? How quaint.

Id better get my male pride banner flying.

i think it's nice to see gay pride marches, its about time there was more love in the world

maybe i should start a straight pride march, just to show how much i love my gf, cept im not proud im straight :(

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” (Ghandi)

That is what Gay Pride is all about. We're still in the fighting stage. Gay Pride won't be necessary when denigrating, denying, and legislating away the rights of gays no longer is an issue.

And there we go again........:(

My question would be: Do "you heteros" never get tired of discussing how bad the gays are?

Seriously.

who says I'm hetero?

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” (Ghandi)

That is what Gay Pride is all about. We're still in the fighting stage. Gay Pride won't be necessary when denigrating, denying, and legislating away the rights of gays no longer is an issue.

As long as people like me are here, you won't win.

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And I'm done.

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Raise that to the 543 and I'm done...it must be the Gay Cycle...

As long as people like me are here, you won't win.
And you are?

And you are?

Conservative.

And you are?

Jesus H. Christ the IV....

There exists a measure for determining excessive pride for any identity group. The moment an identity group has a parade, it has too much pride. Now, I'm not against the concept of being open about who you are, or against the concept of demonstraiting solidarity or numbers. I'm against closing streets. Anyone who wants to close a street in a metropolitan area for so narcissistic a purpose as telling the world why they're so cool is, scientifically speaking, a schmo.

Personally, I blame the whole trend of parades on the Irish. I'm as big a fan of drinking green beer until you puke green as the next guy, but can't you do it on say, the sidewalk? I swear, summer rolls around in Chicago and every three days half the city is blocked off for some kind of parade, street festival, or block party. C'mon people, no one cares that much. Also, what in the hell does a giant inflatable float of a cartoon character have to do with Thanksgiving or Easter? Can someone please explain to me what connection a 100 foot tall Snoopy Juggernaught has to do with sharing or resurrection? Will he provide food and zombie slaves for those who worship at his doghouse altar? Will failure to venerate him in the streets bring his wrath like some horrible sunday newspaper godzilla?

So, in summation, too much gay pride is when gays start acting like Christians, the Irish, and other people who undermine the very fabric of a free and open western nation by blocking off streets and making it harder for me to buy liquor and porn.

Thank You.
Hey, we didn't invent closing streets for drinking. We invented closing workplaces for drinking.

Conservative.
uh huh...not all conservatives are against gay marriage/equal rights

Conservative.
Well then, Alfie, welcome to eight level of hell. A debate will begin in exactly three more posts.

Conservative.

Doesn't mean anything in regard to homosexuality (or taking away rights in general, for that matter. The concept of rights is a very conservative one).

Here is the thing of it.

You stop treating homosexuals as subhuman and the pride days will go away.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

Doesn't mean anything in regard to homosexuality (or taking away rights in general, for that matter. The concept of rights is a very conservative one).

It's when you start making 'changes' to the foundations of the nation that conservatives get angered. This includes marriage.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/3/193556.shtml

It's when you start making 'changes' to the foundations of the nation that conservatives get angered. This includes marriage.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/3/193556.shtml
Then let the institution evolve. Don't use the state to preserve it.

Then let the institution evolve. Don't use the state to preserve it.

That's the exact same as change.

It's when you start making 'changes' to the foundations of the nation that conservatives get angered. This includes marriage.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/3/193556.shtml
as opposed to that divorce thing conservatives are so against? Remember, divorce rates are higher in conservative states.

That's the exact same as change.
But it's more natural than coerced preservation.

as opposed to that divorce thing conservatives are so against? Remember, divorce rates are higher in conservative states.

I hate divorce, it's the worst showing of human stupidity and result of infatuation which people can't distinguish from love.
When did I ever say as opposed to..?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-0sNTz18jMg&search=pride%20vs%20progress
[slightly NSFW]
Pride vs Progress.

This is when pride becomes to much. When pride is being used as a facade for showing off your sexual kinks.

I hate divorce, it's the worst showing of human stupidity and result of infatuation which people can't distinguish from love.
When did I ever say as opposed to..?
and are you pushing to have divorce illegal just as hard as you are pushing to keep gay marriage illegal?

not to mention, merriage, by and large, is NOT 1 man and 1 woman. While there are more monogamous marriages in the world than others, more cultures practice polygyny.

Marriage is hardly something that is concretely defined.

It's when you start making 'changes' to the foundations of the nation that conservatives get angered. This includes marriage.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/3/193556.shtml

Different conservatives can pick different foundations, though. As I said, the concepts of rights and absolute separation of church and state are both very conservative concepts, carrying obsession with past traditions and the dictates of "founding fathers". Supporting homosexuality and pedophilia would be the province of another sect of conservatives that see Ancient Greece as the "Golden Age". In general, conservatives can vary widely.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-0sNTz18jMg&search=pride%20vs%20progress
[slightly NSFW]
Pride vs Progress.

This is when pride becomes to much. When pride is being used as a facade for showing off your sexual kinks.

Why can't you be proud of your kinkiness? Kinkiness, both homo and hetero, is still significantly oppressed.

Come to think of it...there should be hetero BDSM parades!

and are you pushing to have divorce illegal just as hard as you are pushing to keep gay marriage illegal?

not to mention, merriage, by and large, is NOT 1 man and 1 woman. While there are more monogamous marriages in the world than others, more cultures practice polygyny.

Marriage is hardly something that is concretely defined.

When did I ever say I was pushing for either to become illegal?
Fuck if I have any power over politics.
I'm saying I will neither respect nor accept either concept into society.
It's already legal where I live, does that mean I have to be fine with it? No.

I understand gay pride and all that but honestly how much is to much. I understand from some lines of work you may need to tell your boss or other people in the company. But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife. I just think it's strange to have that much attention on somthng that you eventualy want to just be part of the culture no different from any other type of mairrage.

I see lot's of straight people who go on about their partners. In fact, the majority of people I meet who are public about their relationship are straight.

I don't hate gay people because they shag people of the same gender, I hate them because they won't freaking shut up about it. I don't care who does what to whom, as long as I don't have to know about it.

Last thought: If you're shallow enough to let your sexuality define you as a person, you are scum. 'Nuff said.

I hate divorce, it's the worst showing of human stupidity and result of infatuation which people can't distinguish from love.
When did I ever say as opposed to..?

Yeah, so my parents, married for over twenty years, were never in love? FYI, they didn't break up because they decided they weren't in love, they broke up because people change. If anything is bad, it's marriage itself, which is based on the supposition that humans are meant to be with only one partner for the entirity of their life. Truth is, some of them can, and some can't.

I don't hate gay people because they shag people of the same gender, I hate them because they won't freaking shut up about it. I don't care who does what to whom, as long as I don't have to know about it.

Last thought: If you're shallow enough to let your sexuality define you as a person, you are scum. 'Nuff said.

All hail the scum industry, queen of the interwebs, then!

Yeah, so my parents, married for over twenty years, were never in love? FYI, they didn't break up because they decided they weren't in love, they broke up because people change. If anything is bad, it's marriage itself, which is based on the supposition that humans are meant to be with only one partner for the entirity of their life. Truth is, some of them can, and some can't.

They broke up even after having a family raised?
That to me shows they were never in love in the first place.
Candle-lit dinners and Hallmark moments don't define two people loving each other.

They broke up even after having a family raised?
That to me shows they were never in love in the first place.
Candle-lit dinners and Hallmark moments don't define two people loving each other.

Does love last forever, then?

What's the biological basis for your reasoning?

They broke up even after having a family raised?
That to me shows they were never in love in the first place.
Candle-lit dinners and Hallmark moments don't define two people loving each other.

You have no right to judge the amount of love in my parents relationship. They were in love. And no, they didn't have candle-lit dinners and Hallmark moments. They raised children, grieved losses, and shared moments of joy. But, like I said, people can change, and the love they had for the first 23 or so years wasn't enough to keep them together.

I understand gay pride and all that but honestly how much is to much. I understand from some lines of work you may need to tell your boss or other people in the company. But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife. I just think it's strange to have that much attention on somthng that you eventualy want to just be part of the culture no different from any other type of mairrage.


"Massive Stereotyping Alert!"

Did you know Field Marshall Montgomery was gay? Lord Kitchener? Lord Gordon? and a dozen other world-renowned military legends...

There's a good chance you walk past gay people in the street every single day of your life. It may shock you to know they don't all wear spandex and shout "We're here, we're queer, get shoes for it".

Da Vinci was gay too.
As was Michelangelo.

Less of the ignorance, please.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-0sNTz18jMg&search=pride%20vs%20progress


That clip isnt completely wrong

I don't hate gay people because they shag people of the same gender, I hate them because they won't freaking shut up about it. I don't care who does what to whom, as long as I don't have to know about it.

Last thought: If you're shallow enough to let your sexuality define you as a person, you are scum. 'Nuff said.

Perhaps you might have the compassion to see such people in the light of being so frail that this one thing gives them a sense of self-belief or identity. There is enough inhumanity in this world without people being referred to as scum.

I see where you're coming from but it's not all that different to the white southern US politicians in the 60's whose sentiment would have ran, "I've got nothing against blacks...in fact I even spoke to a few once, but I just wish they'd hush up now".

You're referring to Gay Extremists, not the average gay person. That's worth bearing in mind.

And no...I'm not gay...I'm just a nice guy.

I don't hate gay people because they shag people of the same gender, I hate them because they won't freaking shut up about it. I don't care who does what to whom, as long as I don't have to know about it.

Last thought: If you're shallow enough to let your sexuality define you as a person, you are scum. 'Nuff said.
No PDAs for you then, heaven forbid that people know about your sexuality. No talking about anyone you might fancy of your significant other either. Oh, and if you get married, don't go wearing that wedding ring around in public. Better not have a public ceremony either.

Does love last forever, then?

What's the biological basis for your reasoning?

What the fuck does biological reasoning have to do with marriage?
If you say hormones you deserve a slap.

What the fuck does biological reasoning have to do with marriage?
If you say hormones you deserve a slap.

He/She meant: where is the scientific proof that love lasts a life time?

He/She meant: where is the scientific proof that love lasts a life time?

As love is just the effects of changes in seratonin and oxytocin levels.

As love is just the effects of changes in seratonin and oxytocin levels.


riiiigghhht

What the fuck does biological reasoning have to do with marriage?
If you say hormones you deserve a slap.
Hormones are responsible for sexual attraction, are you saying this has no place in a healthy marraige?

riiiigghhht

What else would it be? Little pink marshmallow clouds floating in the air? A new, yet-undiscovered element? A terrible peice of chick lit?

I don't hate gay people because they shag people of the same gender, I hate them because they won't freaking shut up about it. I don't care who does what to whom, as long as I don't have to know about it.
I agree. That's exactly why I hate straights. They're always going on and on (and on) about "my girlfriend" or "my husband" and openly using opposite-gendered pronouns when they talk about their partners--some of them even outright wear wedding rings everywhere they go to flaunt the fact that they can get married and have government-sanctioned bedroom activities.

Hormones are responsible for sexual attraction, are you saying this has no place in a healthy marraige?

Remember, children, sex is only to create babies. Sex for fun is perverted, and must be banned.

Remember, children, sex is only to create babies. Sex for fun is perverted, and must be banned.
The dalai lama agrees with you

I have no problem with the majority of gays, though just like the rest of humans, theres always that group that gotta go over the edge with EVERYTHING.


I'd wish all those people, gay, straight, a-sexual, whatever. Would choke.

I agree. That's exactly why I hate straights. They're always going on and on (and on) about "my girlfriend" or "my husband" and openly using opposite-gendered pronouns when they talk about their partners--some of them even outright wear wedding rings everywhere they go to flaunt the fact that they can get married and have government-sanctioned bedroom activities.

AMEN! Sorry, I'm not gay but I have to agree. What I don't understand is whats the big deal? Correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm under the assumption that my gay and lesbian friends are human just like me. Oh and everyone on this thread realizes Bush is trying to pass the no gay marriage amendment again right? I say any americans here complain to congress on that one.

AMEN! Sorry, I'm not gay but I have to agree. What I don't understand is whats the big deal? Correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm under the assumption that my gay and lesbian friends are human just like me. Oh and everyone on this thread realizes Bush is trying to pass the no gay marriage amendment again right? I say any americans here complain to congress on that one.
I really wouldn't care if a gay did it either, some people just find that kind of stuff romantic, even though I find it kind of more possessive then romantic.

Hormones are responsible for sexual attraction, are you saying this has no place in a healthy marraige?

No I am saying that marriage isn't based entirely around your sexual desires.
Unless you happen to be a filthy drug-pushing tramp who is juicing her husband for all his money.

I agree. That's exactly why I hate straights. They're always going on and on (and on) about "my girlfriend" or "my husband" and openly using opposite-gendered pronouns when they talk about their partners--some of them even outright wear wedding rings everywhere they go to flaunt the fact that they can get married and have government-sanctioned bedroom activities.
I can see lots of significant others being unhappy about being referred to as 'it' :p

But see at the same time it is their lives not ours. Why should people who are gay be denied the rights that straight people take for granted? I mean honestly what should Bush and the other conservitives care if two OTHER people get married just becuase they don't agree with what is seen as 'normal'? Does that strike anyone else as wrong?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060605/pl_nm/rights_gays_congress_dc_4

What else would it be? Little pink marshmallow clouds floating in the air? A new, yet-undiscovered element? A terrible peice of chick lit?
Your suggestions fit about as well as changes in seratonin and oxytocin levels that can last seventy or more years between some couples.

No I am saying that marriage isn't based entirely around your sexual desires.
Unless you happen to be a filthy drug-pushing tramp who is juicing her husband for all his money.

Money is not a sexual desire.

In any case, the chemicals certainly aren't limited to sex. The seratonin stage involves general obsession, not just about sex but about the person as a whole, using similar pathways to OCD. The second stage involves oxytocin, the chemical of trust, produced in its highest concentrations by breastfeeding mothers, which is why babies have a general warm, happy, safe feeling. Trust chemicals help you get into your routine and feel like a person is essential without being obsessed about them. It's what keeps couples together in the long run, but if it burns off, or never starts up, marriages fail.

A terrible peice of chick lit?


How do you keep a chick lit anyway? Mine self extinguish.

But see at the same time it is their lives not ours. Why should people who are gay be denied the rights that straight people take for granted? I mean honestly what should Bush and the other conservitives care if two OTHER people get married just becuase they don't agree with what is seen as 'normal'? Does that strike anyone else as wrong?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060605/pl_nm/rights_gays_congress_dc_4

Because if anything, history has taught us that different people suck and deserve to be segragated. :rolleyes:

Your suggestions fit about as well as changes in seratonin and oxytocin levels that can last seventy or more years between some couples.

Face it: Love is just chemicals in the brain. There is no scientific way that it could be anything else.

Your suggestions fit about as well as changes in seratonin and oxytocin levels that can last seventy or more years between some couples.

Oxytocin production is a self-reinforcing process, and can last off into the long term if people keep living together on a regular basis.

Because if anything, history has taught us that different people suck and deserve to be segragated. :rolleyes:

Yes see I forget that little detail when people try to tell me that ya know all men are created equal

Yes see I forget that little detail when people try to tell me that ya know all men are created equal
All land owning white men :mad:

Face it: Love is just chemicals in the brain. There is no scientific way that it could be anything else.

You place too many limits on what science might be.

Oxytocin production is a self-reinforcing process, and can last off into the long term if people keep living together on a regular basis.

What makes you sure that is a cause of love and not an effect?

What makes you sure that is a cause of love and not an effect?

Because when you spray someone with oxytocin, they become more likely to trust people? Not the other way around?

I understand gay pride and all that but honestly how much is to much. I understand from some lines of work you may need to tell your boss or other people in the company. But you don't see straight people constanly talking about how much they love to love there husband/wife. I just think it's strange to have that much attention on somthng that you eventualy want to just be part of the culture no different from any other type of mairrage.
Trust me on this one .. in the USA there are only a few kinds of places where homosexuals don't have to listen to Hetero Advertising ... typically a gay bar or GLBT community center.

Heteros are constantly talking about their boy/girl friends, holding hands in public, kissing at parties, hetero sex roles are built into almost every television and radio commercial (as "sex appeal") .... the litany of "talk" by heteros about how much they enjoy being hetero almost NEVER ends.

I don't expect to see same-sex oriented ads, articles, news, etc. in magazines like Hustler or Playboy, just as I don't expect to see hetero-sex oriented ads, articles, news, etc. in magazines like XY or Out. But thumb through a "mainstream" print newspaper or magazine, and try counting how many heterosex versus homosex ads there are. How many new articles. How many feature stories. Please ignore the "smart and trendy" ambiguous ads with three guys and a girl or articles about metrosexual males getting advice from their male hairsylist barber. The New York Times, USA Today, LA Times ... go ahead, get back to me

In the USA we all live in a hetero-centric world. You just don't see it.

So: Get a grip, and deal with "gay pride" once a year. Yeesh! (Besides .. what you see on TV ... the campy / drag queen "boys will be girls" stereotype is just that, a stereotype held by heterosexist, heterocentric news people. Reinforced and amplified for effect.)

The plain and simple fact of the matter is that the government doesn't belong
anywhere near marriages in the first place, gay or straight.
You know that whole thing that our foundation was based on...
THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE??? Marriage is a religious bond
between two folks who love one another, not a government sanction to have
babies/lotsa sex.

I'm neither religious nor gay, but I don't have problems with either one of
them, as long as they're not trying to push their views onto me. Zealots are
the big problem with any group.

As far as Bush is concerned, they need to get rid of that f*cker, 'cause
everything that idiot does is based off of the bible, in the bad way. Church
and state were made to be separate when the government was founded for a
reason, keep it that way.



and as far as:
...

Da Vinci was gay too.
As was Michelangelo.

...

is concerned, no. Neither of them was gay. They were both
bi-sexual, which was fairly common at the times, plus, it's always been
fairly common amongst artists.

[QUOTE=BasNagas]The plain and simple fact of the matter is that the government doesn't belong
anywhere near marriages in the first place, gay or straight.
You know that whole thing that our foundation was based on...
THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE??? Marriage is a religious bond
between two folks who love one another, not a government sanction to have
babies/lotsa sex.

I'm neither religious nor gay, but I don't have problems with either one of
them, as long as they're not trying to push their views onto me. Zealots are
the big problem with any group.

As far as Bush is concerned, they need to get rid of that f*cker, 'cause
everything that idiot does is based off of the bible, in the bad way. Church
and state were made to be separate when the government was founded for a
reason, keep it that way.[QUOTE=BasNagas]

THANK YOU! You are my new favorite person!

"Too much is never enough"

- J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.

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So: Get a grip, and deal with "gay pride" once a year. Yeesh! (Besides .. what you see on TV ... the campy / drag queen "boys will be girls" stereotype is just that, a stereotype held by heterosexist, heterocentric news people. Reinforced and amplified for effect.)

So the campy / drag queen "boys will be girls" participants in gay pride parades are basically all planted by heterocentric news people in a gargantuan conspiracy to make gays look ridiculous? They are not in fact real marchers marching for their own gay pride and may not even be gay?

Where's my tinfoil hat?

Because when you spray someone with oxytocin, they become more likely to trust people? Not the other way around?

If you inject someone with adrenaline they become anxious. If someone has fear they produce adrenaline. Does that make adrenaline the same as fear or the cause of fear? No.

So the campy / drag queen "boys will be girls" participants in gay pride parades are basically all planted by heterocentric news people in a gargantuan conspiracy to make gays look ridiculous? They are not in fact real marchers marching for their own gay pride and may not even be gay?

Where's my tinfoil hat?
I think the point is more that the people dressing and acting as such are essentialy doing the visual equivelent as "Arguing absurdum" online

They over exagerate the hetrocentric views for comedic effect

If you inject someone with adrenaline they become anxious. If someone has fear they produce adrenaline. Does that make adrenaline the same as fear or the cause of fear? No.

Adrenaline doesn't make you anxious, it fuels various flight-or-fight stuff, but it doesn't make you feel afraid.

And the point is, you won't feel in love without the oxytocin/seratonin. The surrounding circumstances are what make you produce it, but the feeling of being in love, of being in crazy obsession or feeling absolute trust and reliance on your partner, are feelings based in the chemicals unleashed by your behavior.