How chav are you?
Demented Hamsters
05-06-2006, 05:44
Take the test!
How Chav are you? (http://www.teentoday.co.uk/quizzes/chavquiz/)
You are 25% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Thank god for that!!
edit:
Sorry. Didn't realise there'd be so much confusion regarding the term 'chav'
This site might be of help:
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
Crownguard
05-06-2006, 05:47
Could you elaborate on what 'chav' is, exactly?
I got 18% of not-being-chav-iness or something.
LaLaland0
05-06-2006, 05:48
15%
(I don't know what this means...) :p
Andaluciae
05-06-2006, 05:49
18%.
Of course, I'm an American and not a Brit, so I must admit my result is slanted by that fact.
Andaluciae
05-06-2006, 05:51
I had to answer yes on the "drank lager before midday."
I'm a college student, what do you expect from me?
IL Ruffino
05-06-2006, 05:52
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 18% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Awww :(
Do you own more trainers then normal shoes?
Trainers are normal shoes, dammit! *>_<*
Pride and Prejudice
05-06-2006, 05:53
8% What is Chav?
I had to answer yes on the "drank lager before midday."
I'm a college student, what do you expect from me?
Lol - I got out of it, I'm a cider lad.
Infinite Revolution
05-06-2006, 06:14
30% chav: not a chav at all.
btw the drum&bass question is inaccurate. trance is chav choonage of choice.
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 25% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
If you cant get at least 25% then you are young or lead too sheltered an existance
Oh and I have ordered a full English breakfast abroad, in Engerland.
Pride and Prejudice
05-06-2006, 06:17
30% chav: not a chav at all.
btw the drum&bass question is inaccurate. trance is chav choonage of choice.
What is Chav???????
Of course, I'm also American, so like Andaluciae....
Infinite Revolution
05-06-2006, 06:22
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+chav&meta=
i don't know if there is an equivalent outside of the uk. other words for them are 'schemies' cuz they often live in housing schemes, 'neds' in scotland, stands for non-educated delinquents, and there are plenty of other names too. often where burberry accessories especially baseball caps.
Pride and Prejudice
05-06-2006, 06:24
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+chav&meta=
i don't know if there is an equivalent outside of the uk. other words for them are 'schemies' cuz they often live in housing schemes, 'neds' in scotland, stands for non-educated delinquents, and there are plenty of other names too. often where burberry accessories especially baseball caps.
Oh. There are a bunch similar to that.... but I'm not sure what the exact translation would be.... white trash is one possibility, but the meaning of that has been changing... er....
IL Ruffino
05-06-2006, 06:29
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+chav&meta=
i don't know if there is an equivalent outside of the uk. other words for them are 'schemies' cuz they often live in housing schemes, 'neds' in scotland, stands for non-educated delinquents, and there are plenty of other names too. often where burberry accessories especially baseball caps.
I have a burberry blanky.. it's so sexy.
I have a burberry blanky.. it's so sexy.
Are you going to join the Holy Church of the Chavinity?
Demented Hamsters
05-06-2006, 06:48
Sorry. Didn't realise there'd be so much confusion regarding the term 'chav'
This site might be of help:
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
IL Ruffino
05-06-2006, 06:48
Are you going to join the Holy Church of the Chavinity?
Yes. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/5f2f8404.jpg)
Crownguard
05-06-2006, 07:01
I think our closest equivalents are: wiggers, white trash, and 'homies'?
Ickstinastan
05-06-2006, 07:35
I think our closest equivalents are: wiggers, white trash, and 'homies'?
Yeah, I was going to say 'rednecks' as one too, at least, if you live in the south. Along with a few other choice derrogotory ones I won't mention.
5%!
...
I dunno whether that's good or bad.
LaLaland0
05-06-2006, 07:52
apparently not enough. Unless it's a bad thing...I don't know
Boonytopia
05-06-2006, 07:54
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 18% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Cannot think of a name
05-06-2006, 08:04
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 10% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Not suprising, I guess, since I'm only about 10% sure what chav is...I'll check that link if I feel like it...
The Posleen host
05-06-2006, 08:12
Yes! Eight%! My ubernerd reputation is untarnished!
Heil das Nerdisch Reich!
The Beautiful Darkness
05-06-2006, 08:23
Chav?
I am 13% Chav, apparently... I'm not chav at all :D
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 8% chav!
This means you're not chav at all.
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Thank Christ...
Do you own more trainers then normal shoes?
Trainers are normal shoes, dammit! *>_<*
Agreed.
10% Not chav at all, by the way.
LaLaland0
05-06-2006, 09:42
I still don't know what's going on...
Giggy world
05-06-2006, 09:45
I think our closest equivalents are: wiggers, white trash, and 'homies'?
Probably, those are the types of people that chavs model themselves on, as they are simply wannabes it makes our chavs even more pathetic.
One thing I've noticed about chavs is they always go about in groups of about 7, any less and they're too weak to do anything (it takes 7 of them ganging up on a single person) but any more and they will fight amongst themselves.:headbang:
Philosopy
05-06-2006, 09:46
8% chav.
I'm very proud of that achievement. I live in the chav capital of the world, the very place that unleashed the chav, and I am pleased to have resisted the efforts at assimilation.
Well, not 'assimilation'; they couldn't spell that. More like "gotta lite-a mate, yeah? cheers, innit"
I still don't know what's going on...
We're all engaging in a little British cultural classism.
8% here. Phew.
Giggy world
05-06-2006, 09:54
8% aswell. Still too much.:sniper:
This (http://cecimoz.co.uk/portal.php?page=10) video explains chavs pretty well.
Peisandros
05-06-2006, 10:01
I assume this is a British poll? Didn't know a few of the things.
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 23% chav!
This means you're not chav at all.
20% chav!
I was worried about this one, since I'm related to chavs. I thought it'd be in my blood or something, so I'm glad I only got 20. Jealous of the people who got 8%!
Pure Metal
05-06-2006, 10:17
Would you consider buying any of these cars? Vauxhal Corsa, Ford Fiesta, Impreza, Fiat Punto?
huh? :confused: the chav car is the pergeot 106 (including shitty bodykit). full stop.
plus, i own a corsa... :(
anyway
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 10% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Kazcaper
05-06-2006, 10:24
15% - more than I would have liked!
Pure Metal
05-06-2006, 10:26
8% aswell. Still too much.:sniper:
This (http://cecimoz.co.uk/portal.php?page=10) video explains chavs pretty well.
another excrutiating chavvy video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203374946640110183 :D
its horrible...
Kazcaper
05-06-2006, 10:34
another excrutiating chavvy video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203374946640110183 :D
its horrible...So accurate. Very traumatic viewing though!
another excrutiating chavvy video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203374946640110183 :D
its horrible...
Is this guy joking around, retarded, or just British?
Neuvo Rica
05-06-2006, 10:54
8% I'm very proud to say.
All chav scum should be shot. Visit Crawley (Chav Capital UK) and you will agree with me.
Peisandros
05-06-2006, 11:01
another excrutiating chavvy video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203374946640110183 :D
its horrible...
Lol.. It's fuckin hilliarous though.
Wait, first bit about the pound was . The rest is horrible. Correct.
Anarchic Conceptions
05-06-2006, 11:09
another excrutiating chavvy video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203374946640110183 :D
Fantastic.
Though my girlfriend and I got 45% and 39%, respectively, so that might say a lot...
Cape Isles
05-06-2006, 11:13
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 25% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Potato jack
05-06-2006, 11:16
10% chav.
Pure Metal
05-06-2006, 11:16
Is this guy joking around, retarded, or just British?
sadly, just a British chav. we're not all like that... just the chavs. pathetic, isn't it?
though i'm not entirely sure, but it comes from fat-pie.com and it might be a spoof/acted thing, so take it with a pinch of salt. still, that is how they are, whether this particular video is real or not
Rhursbourg
05-06-2006, 11:21
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 0% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
Southeastasia
05-06-2006, 11:30
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 25% chav!
This means you're not chav at all.
Self explanatory answer, is it not?
IL Ruffino
05-06-2006, 11:35
was kate moss a chav? she worked for burberry..
Philosopy
05-06-2006, 11:50
huh? :confused: the chav car is the pergeot 106 (including shitty bodykit). full stop.
plus, i own a corsa... :(
No no no, the Peugeot is a wannabe chavs car. The true chavmobile, the one they all aspire too, is, of course, the one, the only, the Vauxhall Nova.
Anarchic Conceptions
05-06-2006, 11:54
Am I the NS scally then?
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 10% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
I'm so sorry for not being a fucking moron and understanding internet lingo.
That surely deserves to raise my %.
Fucking retarded quiz, whoever produced this was a dumbass.
Zolworld
05-06-2006, 12:02
8% What is Chav?
23%, not too bad. And the fast and the furious did deserve an oscar nomination, it was beautifully edited.
For our non english chums, a chav is sort of half way between trailer trash and the baddies from deliverance or the texas chainsaw massacre.
I V Stalin
05-06-2006, 12:04
Do you own more trainers then normal shoes?
Trainers are normal shoes, dammit! *>_<*
Damn straight. "Normal" shoes are for special occasions.
15%. Of course I drink lager before midday and buy economy brands from the supermarket - I'm a student!
Fair Progress
05-06-2006, 12:07
23% - and I wish I scored less after watching that video
IL Ruffino
05-06-2006, 12:09
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 10% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
I'm so sorry for not being a fucking moron and understanding internet lingo.
That surely deserves to raise my %.
Fucking retarded quiz, whoever produced this was a dumbass.
Here, smoke this, it will calm you down.
*hands you a joint*
sadly, just a British chav. we're not all like that... just the chavs. pathetic, isn't it?
though i'm not entirely sure, but it comes from fat-pie.com and it might be a spoof/acted thing, so take it with a pinch of salt. still, that is how they are, whether this particular video is real or not
I'm so very, very sorry for you poor folks across the pond.
5%, I know what a chav is, but being an American your white trash stereotypes don't fit our white trash, thus apparently I'm not a chav.
Monkeypimp
05-06-2006, 12:13
15% apparently.
Ah thought so.
Chav = Wigger*
*Notes that it seems Chavs have a stronger white trash nuance to them. Where as wiggers hide, or lack, that subtlety. Chavs won't catch on in the U.S. anytime soon just because they'll get the living shit beat out of them by both white trash and niggers** alike.
**I'm not going to apologize for using that term if anyone is offended.
I can barely understand what half that quiz is saying. I'm surprised I don't lean closer to Chav/Wigger since I lived near Atlantic City my whole life. I demand a translation into Englarican!
BogMarsh
05-06-2006, 12:19
For the purposes of this particular discussion, the human race exists of 2 distinct groups.
Goodie2shoes - and chavs ( aka Scum ).
And yet another way of describing the latter part would be: cockroaches.
No need to let those exist in the streets.
Roachmotels will serve 'em just fine.
Pure Metal
05-06-2006, 12:20
All chav scum should be shot. Visit Crawley (Chav Capital UK) and you will agree with me.
hah yeah, go there fairly often actually... they swarm round the cinema (especially the mini-chavs (ie. kids))
I'm so very, very sorry for you poor folks across the pond.
thank you, your sympahty is noted and appreciated :fluffle:
Am I the NS scally then?
lmao :p
i've met you, and i'd say no :)
Damn straight. "Normal" shoes are for special occasions.
I dunno if mine qualify. I bought them for $30 three years ago and there's still nothing wrong with them. They're sort-of trainers, I guess.
15%. Of course I drink lager before midday and buy economy brands from the supermarket - I'm a student!
:D
I V Stalin
05-06-2006, 12:33
I dunno if mine qualify. I bought them for $30 three years ago and there's still nothing wrong with them. They're sort-of trainers, I guess.
Would you wear them to a job interview...I think that's the mark of decent shoes. Wish I could get decent shoes for that. Last pair that cost me that much are about a year old now and almost have a hole in the sole.
they swarm round the cinema (especially the mini-chavs (ie. kids))
Chavs everywhere swarm around the cinema and the supermarket. In Leicester the two are next to each other so it's 100% worse. :(
Would you wear them to a job interview...I think that's the mark of decent shoes. Wish I could get decent shoes for that. Last pair that cost me that much are about a year old now and almost have a hole in the sole.
Oh, I have work shoes for that. I've had them for about three years too. They're a bit scuffed up, but the ol' spit and polish works wonders.
Tropical Sands
05-06-2006, 12:36
*Notes that it seems Chavs have a stronger white trash nuance to them. Where as wiggers hide, or lack, that subtlety. Chavs won't catch on in the U.S. anytime soon just because they'll get the living shit beat out of them by both white trash and niggers** alike.
I think Chavs have already caught on in the US, except known as "Ravers." The culture is virtually the same (lingo, clothes, music, etc). Even Chavs in popular culture are popping up, like Ali G.
I think Chavs have already caught on in the US, except known as "Ravers." The culture is virtually the same (lingo, clothes, music, etc). Even Chavs in popular culture are popping up, like Ali G.
Typical "Ravers" where I'm from include Goth, Punk, and Emo kids. Now "Club Hoppers" definately include Chavs and Wiggers. I don't know, I've yet to see a Chav mimic or clone around where I live so I can be happy for now. If only we could get rid of the damn Emo kids that are spreading like wildfire.
Typical "Ravers" where I'm from include Goth, Punk, and Emo kids. Now "Club Hoppers" definately include Chavs and Wiggers. I don't know, I've yet to see a Chav mimic or clone around where I live so I can be happy for now. If only we could get rid of the damn Emo kids that are spreading like wildfire.
Fortunately emo tends to take care of itself. I mean, given enough sharp objects.
Fortunately emo tends to take care of itself. I mean, given enough sharp objects.
No Emo kid actually tries to kill themself or suffers from depression. (Maybe the rare few.)
When an Emo kid cuts themself you notice that they always where short sleeves afterwards? No one I've known who geniunely hurts themself is proud of what they've done. These sick bastards do it for attention.
Not the first time a species learns to fake a disease for social benifits...
Peisandros
05-06-2006, 12:48
I think Chavs have already caught on in the US, except known as "Ravers." The culture is virtually the same (lingo, clothes, music, etc). Even Chavs in popular culture are popping up, like Ali G.
So, Ali G is a chav?
I V Stalin
05-06-2006, 12:57
So, Ali G is a chav?
Ali G is a parody of a chav, but yes.
BogMarsh
05-06-2006, 12:59
Would you wear them to a job interview...I think that's the mark of decent shoes. Wish I could get decent shoes for that. Last pair that cost me that much are about a year old now and almost have a hole in the sole.
(snip)
Mutatis mutandis, that is the basic measuring stick of all human behaviour.
Demented Hamsters
05-06-2006, 14:20
another excrutiating chavvy video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3203374946640110183 :D
its horrible...
(shows a eyeliner brush)
"I found this! It's one of them...one of them...sticks.....with...like...stuff on it"
classic.
Rubiconic Crossings
05-06-2006, 14:23
That chav quizz website is teh ghey
Only 8%. Looks like I've survived uncorrupted so far, despite being surrounded by them a lot of the time.
Chav isn't really the same as wigger though, because to be a wigger you have to be white, and you do find black chavs as well.
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 13% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
O Happy Day. I'm so glad not to be a chav. I hates them with a passion
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 5% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
I suppose that's not surprising. I do listen to Mozart, though I don't play lawn tennis (I don't like sports anyway).
What a godawful quiz.
Takes jabs at poor people, bollocks up loads of cultural aspects and shows a complete inability to understand the youth of today. Probably written by some fat 45 year old middle class idiot who reads the mail.
The Coral Islands
05-06-2006, 19:04
Also 25%, according to the test.
Being Canadian, I have never heard the terms "chav" or "gaff" before. Gaff is a bit cool, though, believe it or not it's exotic for me. In a few months I will be moving out on my own (I am currently in a university residence), so I am going to have to name my place. I was leaning toward 'pad' but that is so cliché I may have to pick "gaff" instead. Who knows, perhaps when the time comes I will make a poll about it.
28%, you missed off wanabee chavvy and larving it
Rangerville
05-06-2006, 19:14
13% Chav
Come on.Most people have done most of these things at some stage with the possible exception of the 'fashion statments'.< at least I hope so>.OMG I might be a closet chav...ARRRRRRRAGHHHH.It burns.. IT BURNS!!!,...
What a godawful quiz.
Takes jabs at poor people, bollocks up loads of cultural aspects and shows a complete inability to understand the youth of today. Probably written by some fat 45 year old middle class idiot who reads the mail.
It's not taking shots at them because they're poor, it's taking shots at them because they're scum. I was travelling on a bus the other day and this 13-year old chav accused me of staring at him and when I denied this he quickly became aggressive and verbally abusive.
Now I realise of course with hindsight, that rather than becoming angry myself (as was the case) I should have attempted to understand the underlying injustices and root causes of the poor youngster, after all, it's not his fault that he's such a semen stain on the quilt of humanity, but rather the fault of society.
We see A times editorial put it very well when it stated: "We laugh at the underclass for the same reason we laugh in wartime and after appalling disasters: because if we didn’t we’d only cry." Yet the function is not solely to make us laugh, the function is to mock them into extinction.
To all those who believe chavs aren't all that bad I give you a true story.
Walking through the town centre with my 8 year old sister minding our business. My sister accidentally bumps into a chav. She apologises and we carry on walking. However this chav at least 15 years old starts being verbally abusive to my sister. We ignore it and carry on walking. This chav then finds it necessary to nudge my little sister. She starts crying. Needless to say it made me angry so I did a public service of shutting him up with my fist. So to those who didn't believe chavs are scum I ask you what kind of person picks on an 8 year old girl?
To all those who believe chavs aren't all that bad I give you a true story.
Walking through the town centre with my 8 year old sister minding our business. My sister accidentally bumps into a chav. She apologises and we carry on walking. However this chav at least 15 years old starts being verbally abusive to my sister. We ignore it and carry on walking. This chav then finds it necessary to nudge my little sister. She starts crying. Needless to say it made me angry so I did a public service of shutting him up with my fist. So to those who didn't believe chavs are scum I ask you what kind of person picks on an 8 year old girl?
It's a liberal hobby, they see chavs as the victims not the perpetrators. People who defend chavs need to get their heads out of their arses and stop with their intellectualised defences of the indefensible. The only reason a person becomes a vile and odious dreg on society is because they choose to be so. They shall never have my pity or my sympathy, only my abject contempt.
Pacificala
05-06-2006, 21:19
I'm 15% Chav
There's a difference between just being poor/'indefensible' and being just plain idiotic. The situation that they're in does not give them any more of a right to be chav-like than it does anybody else. I'm sure there are plenty more people who are in similar situations who actually behave with some sense of decency.
[NS:]Fargozia
05-06-2006, 21:31
To all those who believe chavs aren't all that bad I give you a true story.
Walking through the town centre with my 8 year old sister minding our business. My sister accidentally bumps into a chav. She apologises and we carry on walking. However this chav at least 15 years old starts being verbally abusive to my sister. We ignore it and carry on walking. This chav then finds it necessary to nudge my little sister. She starts crying. Needless to say it made me angry so I did a public service of shutting him up with my fist. So to those who didn't believe chavs are scum I ask you what kind of person picks on an 8 year old girl?
I call them Plutoniums.
Why Plutoniums? Because they are fast breeders.
There is a use for Chavs, or where I come from Neds- we just need a decent war to put them all in the Infantry as cannon fodder. ;) That is what happened to thier earlier incarnations in 1914 and 1939. :D
Define meaning
05-06-2006, 21:46
Those poll results aren't skewed at all...
I don't know what chavs are, and im too lazy to read anything, so I will go on in blissful ignorance.
Anarchic Conceptions
05-06-2006, 23:38
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 5% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
I suppose that's not surprising. I do listen to Mozart, though I don't play lawn tennis (I don't like sports anyway).
So do I, but I got the highest score here. So, listening to Mozart probably isn't the best yardstick.
Neo Kervoskia
05-06-2006, 23:42
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 8% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
New Callixtina
05-06-2006, 23:43
What is Chav???????
Of course, I'm also American, so like Andaluciae....
A Chav is equivalent to White Trash in America.
Franberry
05-06-2006, 23:45
whats a chav?
(hav not read any of this thread!)
8% btw
Frangland
05-06-2006, 23:46
15%
British Stereotypes
05-06-2006, 23:48
38% chav. I am soo cool! :cool:
Kiryu-shi
05-06-2006, 23:51
I voted superchav thingy cause it looked so lonely sitting there with no votes. I got 20% on the test though, and I live in America anyway.
Anarchic Conceptions
06-06-2006, 00:05
38% chav. I am soo cool! :cool:
:eek:
A contender!
British Stereotypes
06-06-2006, 00:10
:eek:
A contender!
You fuckin' ****. Beat meh by 1% did ya? I'll take a resit and CHEAT!
*Scribbles some words on hand* :p
HotRodia
06-06-2006, 00:14
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 15% chav!
This means you're not chav at all.
Good to know. Not that anyone would mistake me for an English hoodlum anyway. :cool:
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 00:16
You fuckin' ****. Beat meh by 1% did ya? I'll take a resit and CHEAT!
*Scribbles some words on hand* :p
:eek:
Naughty word!
25%...
British Stereotypes
06-06-2006, 00:17
:eek:
Naughty word!
25%...
...but totally on topic, yer nob! :cool:
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 00:20
...but totally on topic, yer nob! :cool:
If by 'nob' you mean 'sexy spammer', then yes..I'd agree with you...:p
Anarchic Conceptions
06-06-2006, 00:26
If by 'nob' you mean 'sexy spammer', then yes..I'd agree with you...:p
I think he was calling a noble ;)
You fuckin' ****. Beat meh by 1% did ya? I'll take a resit and CHEAT!
*Scribbles some words on hand* :p
Fancy some white lightening boys?
Anarchic Conceptions
06-06-2006, 00:29
Fancy some white lightening boys?
I'll meet you in the park.
British Stereotypes
06-06-2006, 00:33
Fancy some white lightening boys?
Yeah, cheers mate. But I'm not a boy... look at my huge gold hoops!
Noble Kings
06-06-2006, 00:37
But honestly, what is with the 'tucking my trousers into my socks'? This question has plagued me my whole life.
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 00:37
Yeah, cheers mate. But I'm not a boy... look at my huge gold hoops!
Just to go with the thread...don't look at her ears...
The Black Hammer
06-06-2006, 00:38
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 5% chav!
Thank god.
Yeah, cheers mate. But I'm not a boy... look at my huge gold hoops!
You're a huge yellow clown?? :eek:
I'd never have thunk it...
British Stereotypes
06-06-2006, 00:41
But honestly, what is with the 'tucking my trousers into my socks'? This question has plagued me my whole life.
Well duh! Our mams spend all the child benifits on drugs, so we have to wear hand-me-downs. They're too short so we took them into our socks so we don't look like muppets! Why did you think we did that? To look cool. :cool: It does though dosn't it...
Grape-eaters
06-06-2006, 00:43
15%. Not a chav at all. However, I am an American...if I were to Americanize this test somewhat, changing the terms and places and such a bit, I would most likely score much higher. And while I have not drunk lager before noon, I have drunk hard alcohol.
The Muffin-People
06-06-2006, 01:48
13%......uhm yeah...strange..what is a chav again?
It's a liberal hobby, they see chavs as the victims not the perpetrators. People who defend chavs need to get their heads out of their arses and stop with their intellectualised defences of the indefensible. The only reason a person becomes a vile and odious dreg on society is because they choose to be so. They shall never have my pity or my sympathy, only my abject contempt.
First of all, dont call me a fucking liberal.
Now to that poster who said a chav picked on his 8 year old sister. Great. If that guy was black would you around saying "I can't believe what those blacks are like, the other day one started on my sister!!!"? Probably not, why? Because you've learned that you can't judge a race on the actions of an individual person- the same logic should be applied to loose cultural groupings.
Right, amongst chavs there is clearly a tendency towards violence. Now why is this? Well theres probably two main types of violence- for economic reasions and for fun.
When it comes to economic reasons the violence is pretty simple to see- the hard fact is that chav is a poor, working class youth culture. It is also a culture that is obsessed with money and physical displays of wealth. Most of these kids are obviously going to be unable to afford the chains, rings, expensive trainers, etc, so they are going to get the money for it by any means necessarry. I can already hear the cries of "They should get jobs!" from you rightwingers, but think about it. The minimum wage for 16 and 17 year olds in this country is £3.00 an hour and we know that when you first enter a job you are unlikely to get a great deal more than that. So the choice for these kids is work 8 hours, make between about 25 and 40 quid or spend about 5 minutes robbing somebody and making over double that. Pretty understandable.
Now when it comes to this idea of fighting just for kicks I think the issue has to be split into two. First, why are those kids so bored? Second, why do they see violence as a way of alleviating it? Well, I dunno about anybody else in Britain but theres fuck all to do where I live. Everything costs money thats worth doing, and becomes more expensive yearly. In short, if you've got fuck all cash then you've got fuck all to do.
So why is violence their solution? Because it's free, it can actually be quite fun, it can bolster your reputation and because it's what all their favourite mediocre rappers do.
There, thats my take on why there is a bond between chaviness and violence.
Now, as for people calling these kids scum. Not all of them are bad people, believe it or not. I don't even think the majority are. I think that because there are so many chavs (it's blatantly the biggest youth culture in Britain today) that there are naturally more violent people within the group, so more people are likely to have had a nasty dealing with a chav or know someone who has. Think about it this way, even ignoring the violent nature of chav culture let's just have a little example.
Lets say theres a town with 500 chavs and 50 punks. And now lets say that 1 out of every 50 people in this town is violent (its a bit of a shit town). The non-aligned citizens are for more likely to see a chav acting violently than a punk. Therefor they come to associate all chavs with these traits. Thats basically whats happening now.
Also, you should just keep in mind that it's not always a choice to be a chav. If you grow up in a housing estate where everyone around you is a chav and you know that due to your shit education you're unlikely to leave the area ever, you're gonna want to be close to these people. This means picking up their style to avoid being seen as weird and an outsider. It's just a way of fitting in for them.
Phew that was rather a long post.
edit: Oh, btw I got 33 percent on that test. I also got 40 percent on the how posh are you test from the same site.
British Stereotypes
06-06-2006, 10:00
I totally agree with every thing you said, DHomme. I was piss-taking earlier about being a chav, but I have nothing against them. I come from a working-class background, so natually I have many chav friends. Despite being an obvious geek, they've all seen my stacks of books, games and roleplaying manuals, I am accepted by them. (Well, I do get teased on occasion but that's all in good fun). The reason I think they act so aggressive towards other non-chavs, is not because you are different, but because you generaly look down on them. Who wouldn't be angry with that? I'm not excusing all chavs, the way many behave is appalling. But at least get to know them as an individual, you might be surprised and actually get to know a decent person.
First of all, dont call me a fucking liberal.
Now to that poster who said a chav picked on his 8 year old sister. Great. If that guy was black would you around saying "I can't believe what those blacks are like, the other day one started on my sister!!!"? Probably not, why? Because you've learned that you can't judge a race on the actions of an individual person- the same logic should be applied to loose cultural groupings.
Right, amongst chavs there is clearly a tendency towards violence. Now why is this? Well theres probably two main types of violence- for economic reasions and for fun.
When it comes to economic reasons the violence is pretty simple to see- the hard fact is that chav is a poor, working class youth culture. It is also a culture that is obsessed with money and physical displays of wealth. Most of these kids are obviously going to be unable to afford the chains, rings, expensive trainers, etc, so they are going to get the money for it by any means necessarry. I can already hear the cries of "They should get jobs!" from you rightwingers, but think about it. The minimum wage for 16 and 17 year olds in this country is £3.00 an hour and we know that when you first enter a job you are unlikely to get a great deal more than that. So the choice for these kids is work 8 hours, make between about 25 and 40 quid or spend about 5 minutes robbing somebody and making over double that. Pretty understandable.
Now when it comes to this idea of fighting just for kicks I think the issue has to be split into two. First, why are those kids so bored? Second, why do they see violence as a way of alleviating it? Well, I dunno about anybody else in Britain but theres fuck all to do where I live. Everything costs money thats worth doing, and becomes more expensive yearly. In short, if you've got fuck all cash then you've got fuck all to do.
So why is violence their solution? Because it's free, it can actually be quite fun, it can bolster your reputation and because it's what all their favourite mediocre rappers do.
There, thats my take on why there is a bond between chaviness and violence.
Now, as for people calling these kids scum. Not all of them are bad people, believe it or not. I don't even think the majority are. I think that because there are so many chavs (it's blatantly the biggest youth culture in Britain today) that there are naturally more violent people within the group, so more people are likely to have had a nasty dealing with a chav or know someone who has. Think about it this way, even ignoring the violent nature of chav culture let's just have a little example.
Lets say theres a town with 500 chavs and 50 punks. And now lets say that 1 out of every 50 people in this town is violent (its a bit of a shit town). The non-aligned citizens are for more likely to see a chav acting violently than a punk. Therefor they come to associate all chavs with these traits. Thats basically whats happening now.
Also, you should just keep in mind that it's not always a choice to be a chav. If you grow up in a housing estate where everyone around you is a chav and you know that due to your shit education you're unlikely to leave the area ever, you're gonna want to be close to these people. This means picking up their style to avoid being seen as weird and an outsider. It's just a way of fitting in for them.
Phew that was rather a long post.
edit: Oh, btw I got 33 percent on that test. I also got 40 percent on the how posh are you test from the same site.
No I wouldn't because I know how it feels to be racially abused which is one of the things this guy was doing.
Philosopy
06-06-2006, 10:15
This quiz is inaccurate. Where is the question "did you have three children by your 13th birthday?"
BogMarsh
06-06-2006, 10:17
This quiz is inaccurate. Where is the question "did you have three children by your 13th birthday?"
Thats too gender-sensitive, innit?
Chavs ( as opposed to chavettes ) are still glued to their palms at that age. :p
Philosopy
06-06-2006, 10:19
Thats too gender-sensitive, innit?
Chavs ( as opposed to chavettes ) are still glued to their palms at that age. :p
No, the female chavs only have three because of the physical limitations of childbirth. Any self respecting male chav will have at least half a dozen by thirteen, each by a different girl.
After all, how can any self respecting chav hope to get their benefit if they don't have plenty of children?
BogMarsh
06-06-2006, 10:22
No, the female chavs only have three because of the physical limitations of childbirth. Any self respecting male chav will have at least half a dozen by thirteen, each by a different girl.
After all, how can any self respecting chav hope to get their benefit if they don't have plenty of children?
Self-respect and chav are mutually exclusive.
The 13-yo-male chav is still almost virgin, except that he pretends he has had another experience than sodomizing some toddler.
Communistic Gottsunda
06-06-2006, 10:23
15 % chav
28%, not chav at all.
Is that a good thing?
BogMarsh
06-06-2006, 10:41
10%. Still too much.
Obviously, I should stop meeting with any of my friends or acquintances who are on income-support.
*thinks it over*
Naw. Sod that.
[NS]Errinundera
06-06-2006, 10:56
Thank you for completing the survey, you are 5% chav!
This means you're not chav at all
No I wouldn't because I know how it feels to be racially abused which is one of the things this guy was doing.
Thats the point Im trying to make. I said you wouldn't stereotype one group based on the actions of an individual, so why is it different in this case?
Thats the point Im trying to make. I said you wouldn't stereotype one group based on the actions of an individual, so why is it different in this case?
Going back to your example earlier, using black people, there is a difference.
Black people are born black without having a say in the matter. As it is a genetic thing rather than a choice, there is no set ideology for black people. Just because a black person is violent doesn't mean that all, or even many, black people are violent, and to assume so whould be idiotic.
Meanwhile, being a chav is a lifestyle choice rather than being genetic. No-one is born a chav, its something they choose to become. As violence is a central part of being a chav, anyone who isn't violent wouldn't choose to be a chav. I'm speaking in generalisations here, and there are probably some non-violent chavs, but its very reasonable to say that nearly all chavs are violent, criminal scum.
Tropical Sands
06-06-2006, 14:35
Meanwhile, being a chav is a lifestyle choice rather than being genetic. No-one is born a chav, its something they choose to become. As violence is a central part of being a chav, anyone who isn't violent wouldn't choose to be a chav. I'm speaking in generalisations here, and there are probably some non-violent chavs, but its very reasonable to say that nearly all chavs are violent, criminal scum.
You're right that social roles, like being a chav, aren't the same as genetic things, like being a black person.
However, its not quite as simple as saying that they choose it. Social roles are things we learn our entire lives, very rarely does someone sit down and make a willing effort to intigrate into a new social role. We're born in specific social situations, we learn the culture of those social situations as we grow, and they shape who we are and become. Things like economic status, education, geographical location, various demographics around you, etc. all effect what your social role will be, and you can only make a choice within these factors. A chav, for example, may not be able to make a choice to go to school, college, etc. (can't afford it) or better themselves in any way (lack of education), etc. So, in short, choices only go as far as our environment lets them.
Cluichstan
06-06-2006, 14:59
My fantasy football team this past season was called Chavscum FC, with nifty brown and white kits. :D
Potarius
06-06-2006, 15:03
10% Chav. Nyah.
Noble Kings
06-06-2006, 20:51
Although you are correct in general, DHomme, that wide generalisations are often mistaken, in the case of chavs, there is no mistake that they are all scum. Every person who calls themselves a chav is either disrespectful to every non-chav they meet, violent, abusive, or all of the above. I have never met a chav who has been otherwise, and i have met many.
Although that is not to say that on their own, some chavs can be mildly acceptable, the simple mindset they share is so flawed that conversation is laced with fear on your part, and the desire to be rid of them.
Respect costs nothing. Not showing it is your problem.
Sel Appa
06-06-2006, 21:10
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+chav&meta=
i don't know if there is an equivalent outside of the uk. other words for them are 'schemies' cuz they often live in housing schemes, 'neds' in scotland, stands for non-educated delinquents, and there are plenty of other names too. often where burberry accessories especially baseball caps.
Oh. There are a bunch similar to that.... but I'm not sure what the exact translation would be.... white trash is one possibility, but the meaning of that has been changing... er....
Wikipedia owns Google-chav=ghetto
10%...
...that's about 10% too much, then.
"Thank you for completing the survey, you are 8% chav!
This means you're not chav at all"
Woohoo!
"thank you for completing the survey, you are 13% chav!
This means you're not chav at all"
isn't that useful to know:D