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Tolerance is an issue right now. Some people think tolerance means tolerating that which is wrong, or that with which you disagree, while others believe in selective tolerance where you're not really tolerating things you believe are wrong; you tolerate things you don't believe are wrong which other people believe to be wrong.

Which are you?

I believe tolerance means understanding that people have different views, and that while you need not accept that particular view, you do need to respect their right to hold that view.

I believe tolerance means understanding that people have different views, and that while you need not accept that particular view, you do need to respect their right to hold that view.

I totally agree. :rolleyes:

I can "tolerate" everyone on the list except for the fake christians... :)

I believe tolerance means understanding that people have different views, and that while you need not accept that particular view, you do need to respect their right to hold that view.

Exactly! Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion and no one should stop him or her from that. Perfect definition :D.

I made it a poll.

Tolerance is an issue right now. Some people think tolerance means tolerating that which is wrong, or that with which you disagree, while others believe in selective tolerance where you're not really tolerating things you believe are wrong; you tolerate things you don't believe are wrong which other people believe to be wrong.
To make this more clear, do you tolerate people like gays and other similar people because you respect their differences or because you don't really think they've done anything wrong? If you don't think they've done anything wrong, do you tolerate those who do think they're immoral?

I accept people like gay people, people of different races, people of different religions, etc. I embrace those people, as long as they are decent human beings, because there is nothing inherently wrong with those things. I accept everyone who is a good and kind human being. I respect anyone who respects me and other people in return. Tolerance is a part of that too.

I tolerate biggots, religious fundamentalists, anyone prejudicial in anyway because i believe they are entitled to their opinions, and like anyone, they are entitled to life. I vehemently disagree with them though and often they disgust me. I would fight for their right to believe and say what they want, but i will always personally believe that they are wrong. I deal with the fact that they exist, but they could never be my friends or anyone i respect.

Tol·er·ance
1. The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.

Ac·cep·tance
1. Favorable reception; approval.
2. Belief in something; agreement.


I am intolerant of fake Christians and fundamentalists in general. Actually, if you're a fake anything, I am intolerant of you.

I tolerate biggots, religious fundamentalists, anyone prejudicial in anyway because i believe they are entitled to their opinions, and like anyone, they are entitled to life. I vehemently disagree with them though and often they disgust me. I would fight for their right to believe and say what they want, but i will always personally believe that they are wrong. I deal with the fact that they exist, but they could never be my friends or anyone i respect.

I agree, except when their activities fall into the illegal (assault, harassment, etc.) Then I want to see those behaviors prosecuted.

Everyone always associates religious people with bigots. Racial bigots are those who go around saying "I hate niggas." But you want the real religious view? Those people who say that aren't religious after all. Jesus said that when you hate someone, you have committed murder in the heart.

Oh yeah, i agree with that too. When their behaviour crosses the line from words to actions and they physically harm others, they should be punished for that.

I'll tolerate anyone who dosn't bother me. If they stay away from me and let me do what I want, I'll stay away from them and let then do what they want. If they're doing something illegal, the police will deal with them. But as soon as they annoy me, they go on my "DO LOT TOLERATE" list.

All of those should be at 100%

Modified: When all of those reach 100%, we have achieved world peace.

All of those should be at 100%

Modified: When all of those reach 100%, we have achieved world peace.

They should be, in an ideal world. :( We don't have an ideal world.

I tolerate everyone except those who don't tolerate everyone. :)

I will tolerate opinions, however ill-conceived, stupid and illogical they may be. They are only opinions. When the opinions lead to actions and the actions are harmful (like flying airplanes into buildings, suicide bombings, gay-bashing, cross-burning, etc.) I can no longer be tolerant.

What's a "Christian reconstructionist?"

What's a "Christian reconstructionist?"
:confused:

I get that the author of this quote is one, but I don't really know the author of this quote that well.

Im very similar to a Christian Reconstructionist. Many call us "Christian Fascists"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionist

Basically what is a sin in the bible should be against US law aswell.

So Homosexuality is a Sin and therefore Homosexuality should be against the law.

"recriminalization of acts of abortion, homosexuality, fornication and pornography." as wikipedia puts it.

Pretty much everyone but religious fundamentalists and bigots. I tolerate lots of people whose opinions I think are ridiculous, but there are limits.

Can You find it in your hearts to tolerate Christian Fascists like me??? :)

Remember its not hard to be "tolerate" of somebody cause tolerance does not nessessarily mean equality (though it is implied and really should).

I can and do tolerate all of those, assuming I receave the same tolerance in return.

Can You find it in your hearts to tolerate Christian Fascists like me??? :)

When most of you think I'm going to burn in Hell for not accepting your alleged Savior, and want to deny me my rights because of what you think your holy book says? No, thank you.

Remember its not hard to be "tolerate" of somebody cause tolerance does not nessessarily mean equality (though it is implied and really should).

I support legal equality for everyone; that's irrelevant to my personal intolerance of certain belief systems.

I believe tolerance means understanding that people have different views, and that while you need not accept that particular view, you do need to respect their right to hold that view.

'mmhm. Neo Nazis and KKK included. As long as they're not the violent type.

I tolerate humanity, though I don't accept them.

I believe tolerance means understanding that people have different views, and that while you need not accept that particular view, you do need to respect their right to hold that view.

agree completely.

I TOLERATE gays and fake Christians. However, I do not ACCEPT them.

I tolerate "moderate christians" as you call them (although I don't tolerate people that thing just because you're liberal and a Christian you can't have strong beliefs), and I see absolutely no reason as to not tolerate gays, blacks, hispanics, and muslims. They're all people too, afterall.
Gay's just a sexual orientation, black and hispanic are just races, and muslims and aetheists I tolerate as they're just mislead.
The reason I don't tolerate fake Christians is because while they're clearly mislead they like to use their being misled as a reason to be a pain in the ass to everything. Same reason for my intolerance to people who think the only way to truly be a Christian is to be conservative.
Feminists it's a tough one to call. I have absolutely nothing against women's rights, but I am more than a bit confused as to why things must be divided into women's rights vs. men's rights instead of just human rights. I'm just against any side that says either men or women should have more rights than the other.
Abortionists I can only tolerate if they do strictly abortions to save the mother's life. I have no tolerance for murderers.

Everyone always associates religious people with bigots. Racial bigots are those who go around saying "I hate niggas." But you want the real religious view? Those people who say that aren't religious after all. Jesus said that when you hate someone, you have committed murder in the heart.
Untrue. Plenty of them are religious; you can't say that they don't accept Jesus or whatever just because they disagree with your reading of the Bible and you don't want to be associated with them. They're might be misguided, by any reasonable reading of the Bible, but that doesn't make them "not Christian" or "not religious". I might not want to be associated with the KKK, but I'm not going to say that they're not white or that I'm not white just because of that.


I'll do more than tolerate most of the people on that list. I'll tolerate most of their beliefs. I don't agree with the beliefs of the last two groups of Christians, and I will do my best not to allow either group to have much say in my government--but only the beliefs of the group called "fake Christians" will seriously get no tolerance from me.

As someone above said, I believe every group on that list should be equal under the law, but I will only tolerate their beliefs to the extent that those beliefs don't curtail the rights of other groups.

I can't tolerate intolerance... AHH THE PARADOX!!!!*head explodifies*

I can't tolerate intolerance... AHH THE PARADOX!!!!*head explodifies*
wow, explodification

I think the poll is not correct 'cause mix two different kind of "things": It's not the same ideas (something you accept or not freely) and beings. So, someone who does not tolerates people of any kind (black, white, gays and so on) don't deserve my tolerance. But any other intolerant idea about ideas, even when I don't agree it's ok for as long as doesn't try to force their ideas to be the only ones. For example: I think abortion is something the mother alone has to decide (even if I prefer to see how she think about carefully), but I can understand someone who thinks it's murder. Ok, until it bombs a clinic.
A KKK member shoud be punished just for being it, 'cause doesn't like something is out of human discccussion, as the existence or the presence of other races in a country.

By, the way, I hate the idea of mixing politics and religion, that's the key of what's wrong with the islam and the best way to kill democracy, that was born as a place where everyone could live whitout sharing the ideas of the most.

Tolerance is an issue right now. Some people think tolerance means tolerating that which is wrong, or that with which you disagree, while others believe in selective tolerance where you're not really tolerating things you believe are wrong; you tolerate things you don't believe are wrong which other people believe to be wrong.

Which are you?

I think a better poll would have been which ideas do you tolerate. I find that all people are tolerable, regardless of what life philosophy they adhere to--it's primarily the ideas themselves that are somewhat less tolerable.

i tolerate everything except for gays and fake christians.

with gays, im fine with the people, but not their orientation. i think people should come to grips with the fact its unnatural.
fake christians i hate as people and for their opinions, thinking that there is a supreme race and supporting violence while linking it to religion is not cool.

i tolerate everything except for gays and fake christians.

with gays, im fine with the people, but not their orientation. i think people should come to grips with the fact its unnatural.
fake christians i hate as people and for their opinions, thinking that there is a supreme race and supporting violence while linking it to religion is not cool.

Here we can see what I was talking about. Gays ARE like they are, they don't think something concret, it's not an idea. So, for me, it's not possible to tolerate you not tolerating them, 'cause are people. Fake christianism is an ideology, so you can perfectly be against or for, is an option for both, you and the fake christian.

And by the way, who gave you the book where natural and unnatural things are described? Anyway, the human race is less natural specie on the world, for exemple, we're not talking, but writing! trough computers! linked by internet! Where is nature here?

I don't tolerate at all.

If a thing is good, one endorses it. And not tolerate it.

If a thing is bad, then tolerating it is being an accessory after the fact.

In conclusion: tolerance is morally questionable at best.

I don't tolerate at all.

If a thing is good, one endorses it. And not tolerate it.

If a thing is bad, then tolerating it is being an accessory after the fact.

In conclusion: tolerance is morally questionable at best.
There's nothing out there that you're unwilling to accept OR condemn?

There's nothing out there that you're unwilling to accept OR condemn?

Things on which I plead ignorance , or being undecided.
Or I might laugh my head off at it - which usually strikes the 'victims' as sheer surpression.

The only people I have to tolerate from that list are the Religious Extremists - all the others I get along with fine, thank you.

The Christian Fundamentalists, I tolerate in exactly the same was that I tolerate Muslim Fundamentalist, Jewish Fundamentalists - and any other extreme or fundamental religious group.

I see very little difference between religious fundamentalists, and extremists. Fundamentalists are one step away from extremists - and both are prepared to force their views on me.

While I tolerate those extremeists - I will do my absolute best to minimise the effects they have on the world - and will support legisation that limits the effectiveness of their teachings.

I tolerate them - however, tolerance means that they have the rights to hold their view without persecution. It doesn't mean they have the right to spread their poison as and when they see fit.

*grins* yeah I know - not the traditional view of tolerance - but one that works and is way more tolerant than those religious extremists and fundamentalists who want to change the law to force me into a behaviour pattern they approve of :P

All of those should be at 100%

Modified: When all of those reach 100%, we have achieved world peace.

When they reach about 90, the magical chocolate fairy shall emerge from her easter-egg cocoon, and begin a 3 century rule over the world that is filled with fudgen delight, and melted chocolate rivers. You'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath or wait for either of the two. :p

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*To the OP*

I misvoted since I tolerate all of them (after all, just because they tell me I'm not allowed an opinion, doesn't mean I tell them they aren't allowed opinions). I just don't like the neo-nazi's or christian reconstructionists (based on historical lies used to justify an unfair political system characterized by tyranny and injustice.).

Sorry to post two in a row - but the concept of 'Fake Christian' just struck me as ironic in a conversation about tolerance.

A Fake Christian is just a Christian that other Christians can't tolerate :P

I had an old man come to the door the other day. Nice looking old bloke, easily into his 70s, wanted to talk to me about the bible. I declined fairly politely, telling him that I wasn't interested in Christian philosophy ..

His reponse? "None of those others are REAL Christians ..." in other words they are all Fake Christians.

And I have been getting that same response down the years - from all sorts of different religious groups. Many religious people aren't even tolerant of each other, what chance have the rest of us got?

(While I am not a Christian (nor do I follow any other religion for that matter) I get on quite well with my mother and sisters who are both moderate Christians and have had friends from other religious communities at various times in the past :P)

I'm tolerant of everyone, until they make an effort to violate my personal area or its clear they are making an effort to disrupt mine or my family's way of life.
Then I'm not so tolerant.

I can "tolerate" everyone on the list except for the fake christians... :)

Likewise

I tolerate them all... because before being those names they are people, even if some are a bit lost (Neo-Nazis and the like).

I tolerate them all... because before being those names they are people, even if some are a bit lost (Neo-Nazis and the like).

I won't tolerate you tolerating neonazis :p

Everyone always associates religious people with bigots. Racial bigots are those who go around saying "I hate niggas." But you want the real religious view? Those people who say that aren't religious after all. Jesus said that when you hate someone, you have committed murder in the heart.

That's all well and good but I think you'll find that since he said that (among other things) very few people have taken a blind bit of notice, especially those who claimed to be his most adhernt followers.

I won't tolerate you tolerating neonazis :p
Well, let's say I can compromise on being tolerant with Neo-Nazis in jail, if they do what they shouldn't... :D

For some of the categories I don't see how is it ethical or reasonable NOT to tolerate them - people don't get to choose their racial or sexual identity. To some extent, in some societies, people don't really even get to choose their religion - at least not without a huge struggle.

Tolerance doesn't imply having to like someone -- take religion, to quote from an earlier post (in an entirely different context):

"i think people should come to grips with the fact its unnatural" ;)

Well, let's say I can compromise on being tolerant with Neo-Nazis in jail, if they do what they shouldn't... :D

But then you would still tolerate 'em, provided they did nothing bad.
Which means: tolerating nothing at all.
:p

I suppose I tolerate all those groups (except the KKK) but with some I wouldnt call it tolerating them. To me gay people, black people etc are no different to me, I dont see them as seperate. I dont have to tolerate them any more than I tolerate other white atheist liberals like myself (which are the majority round these parts) Whereas religious types and conservatives, those I do tolerate, because although Im not overly fond of them i dont mind them as long as they dont do anything to me.

And then there are racists and religious fundamentalists, who should not be tolerated in a civilised society.

I tolerate no one.

If you're wrong, I'll tell you. But that doesn't mean I'll bomb an abortion clinic (even though I do beleive those who have volutary abortions or perform abortions ought to receive the death penalty). That's the kind of thing bigots do, and I'm not a bigot.

What do you mean by Christian Reconstructionist?

But then you would still tolerate 'em, provided they did nothing bad.
Which means: tolerating nothing at all.
:p
If they kept their hell inside their head, that should suffice. Eventually they would become extinct.
If not, I would place them under straps and tickle their feet with a feather... :D

I would place them under straps and tickle their feet with a feather... :D

I... think I'll join in on that. ( If you will tolerate that... )

I... think I'll join in on that. ( If you will tolerate that... )
Not that, sorry my fun...
*sudden ego attack*
:D

I voted for almost all of them, but if you put George W. Bush, there only would have been nine.

I voted for almost all of them, but if you put George W. Bush, there only would have been nine.
Want a spare feather? :D

I tolerate anyone.
Unless they are intolerant, like fascists or racists, because if you tolerate them, then everything gets screwed up. Other then that: I tolerate religious people (I have some religious friends) and democratic people, even though I completely disagree with them and think their ideas are foolish.

agree completely.

I TOLERATE gays and fake Christians. However, I do not ACCEPT them.

I just don't tolerate them. and Also I don't tolerate liberals :)

I tolerate everyone. Except the religious. Althoughthat isn't necessarily true. I just don't tolerate stupid people, and in my experience, dumb people tend to be religious more than nonreligious people. However, I've met some fucking stupid nonreligious people. I suppose that it may just be that there are many more religious people than nonreligious people.

Tolerance is worthless. Nothing short of acceptance of other's differences is elitism. To tolerate something or someone, you have to believe that thing or person is wrong, and/or your superiority over said thing or person. Only the most arrogant and foolish would ever preach tolerance.

The wise and open-minded preach acceptance.

I tolerate almost all groups on that list, except the crazy Christians (nor do I tolerate Islamic crazies though).

Everybody but the fake christians.

I can't tolerate intolerance... AHH THE PARADOX!!!!*head explodifies*
Ahhh! Get out the Duct Tape!

Tolerance is worthless. Nothing short of acceptance of other's differences is elitism. To tolerate something or someone, you have to believe that thing or person is wrong, and/or your superiority over said thing or person. Only the most arrogant and foolish would ever preach tolerance.

The wise and open-minded preach acceptance.
It would be foolish to accept everything. I should not be forced to change my opinions to suit someone else's, for that in itself is intolerance and non-acceptance. For example, I do not have to accept the gay lifestyle, but I must tolerate it.

It would be foolish to accept everything. I should not be forced to change my opinions to suit someone else's, for that in itself is intolerance and non-acceptance. For example, I do not have to accept the gay lifestyle, but I must tolerate it.
Agreed.

Agreed.
Oh my God, a liberal has agreed with a conservative! :eek:

(Runs and hides behind a couch)

:p

All of those should be at 100%

Modified: When all of those reach 100%, we have achieved world peace.


Tolerating people that do wrong things doesn't create a peaceful world, tolerating a hateful person doesn't make your world peaceful.


To tolerate is to say it's okay... it isn't.


I tolerate most of them, except for those that create more problems at this point then solutions.

Oh my God, a liberal has agreed with a conservative! :eek:

(Runs and hides behind a couch)

:p
Moi, a liberal? :p I am a libertarian-liberal (ie pro-capitalism, social freedoms and cultural preservation as well as being a minarchist/monarchist), which means I tolerate it but I don't have to like it. So I am by no means your average liberal. ;) You can come out of hiding.

Moi, a liberal? :p I am a libertarian-liberal (ie pro-capitalism, social freedoms and cultural preservation as well as being a minarchist/monarchist), which means I tolerate it but I don't have to like it. So I am by no means your average liberal. ;) You can come out of hiding.

(Comes out, looks around, and sniffs the air)

Whew, I was scared there for a second.

Is anyone else disturbed by the numbers being slightly off in the results of the last three options?

Is anyone else disturbed by the numbers being slightly off in the results of the last three options?
How so?

Tolerance is an issue right now. Some people think tolerance means tolerating that which is wrong, or that with which you disagree, while others believe in selective tolerance where you're not really tolerating things you believe are wrong; you tolerate things you don't believe are wrong which other people believe to be wrong.

Which are you?
Today we wll be using the fingerpaint! You vill make a painting that shows people of different races and sexual orientations getting along. You vill not make any distinction between people of different colors! People with different sexual preferences! You vill accept everyone!

How so?
It just suggests that people are tolerant of blacks but not people from the middle east or who are Hispanic. I'm just kind of disturbed by that. It'd be more interesting to see a poll with all races on it.

My tolerance has its limit at the point that another person or phemomenon intends harm to me.

Also . . . while I can tolerate some objectionalbe views and behavior I can also despisde someone for so believing and acting.

It would be foolish to accept everything. I should not be forced to change my opinions to suit someone else's, for that in itself is intolerance and non-acceptance. For example, I do not have to accept the gay lifestyle, but I must tolerate it.
Accepting others as they are without trying to force them to change to conform to YOUR beliefs is far from foolish. It is the rule of "live and let live", insofar as the other isn't actively trying to either harm or inconvenience you in any way.

If you don't accept others as they are, others have no reason to want to accept you as you are. If you want to enter in a daily war against the rest of the world while you try to change everyone to conform to your vision of life while they try to do the same to you, you're welcome to it. You won't see me in that crowd though.

Congratulations. Your lack of acceptance has confirmed yourself to either be one of the arrogant, or the foolish. Have a cookie.

It just suggests that people are tolerant of blacks but not people from the middle east or who are Hispanic. I'm just kind of disturbed by that. It'd be more interesting to see a poll with all races on it.
No, not Middle Easterners; Muslims (as in the religious practitioners of Islam). Most Muslims are not from the Middle East. As for Hispanics, well given your border problems with illegals from Mexico, it does not surprise me, given that most people on here are from the US.

I don't tolerate your mom from the way she screams while we're in bed together.

Sorry, I had to.

No, not Middle Easterners; Muslims (as in the religious practitioners of Islam). Most Muslims are not from the Middle East. As for Hispanics, well given your border problems with illegals from Mexico, it does not surprise me, given that most people on here are from the US.
I hate when I'm trying to make a point like this and I fuck it up like that. Anyway, I'd guess the people who do not tolerate Muslims probably feel that way because of what is going on in the Middle East. It just bothered me to look at those three particular numbers being off from one another. Kind of like how it bothers me when I open the freezer to get ice cream and there is only one spoonful in the pint. But not in the same way. At all. Forget I said that. I'm going to stop typing now.

Accepting others as they are without trying to force them to change to conform to YOUR beliefs is far from foolish. It is the rule of "live and let live", insofar as the other isn't actively trying to either harm or inconvenience you in any way.

If you don't accept others as they are, others have no reason to want to accept you as you are. If you want to enter in a daily war against the rest of the world while you try to change everyone to conform to your vision of life while they try to do the same to you, you're welcome to it. You won't see me in that crowd though.

Congratulations. Your lack of acceptance has confirmed yourself to either be one of the arrogant, or the foolish. Have a cookie.
Tolerance is not trying to force your beliefs down someone's throat, acceptance is agreeing with something.

Tolerance is worthless. Nothing short of acceptance of other's differences is elitism. To tolerate something or someone, you have to believe that thing or person is wrong...
I do believe that the KKK and neo-Nazis are wrong. I'm entitled to that belief at least as much as they are to their beliefs don't you think? Couldn't you be accused of elitism if you refuse to accept my beliefs ... according to your own argument.

... Only the most arrogant and foolish would ever preach tolerance..
I hope you accept these arrogant and foolish people - wouldn't do to be elitist about that would it? ;)


The wise and open-minded preach acceptance
As I see it, the wise and open-minded don't preach at all.

I hate when I'm trying to make a point like this and I fuck it up like that. Anyway, I'd guess the people who do not tolerate Muslims probably feel that way because of what is going on in the Middle East. It just bothered me to look at those three particular numbers being off from one another. Kind of like how it bothers me when I open the freezer to get ice cream and there is only one spoonful in the pint. But not in the same way. At all. Forget I said that. I'm going to stop typing now.
Damn ice cream.

I don't tolerate your mom from the way she screams while we're in bed together.

Sorry, I had to.
Come on. This is NS General. Surely we're more sophisticated than that.

I hate when I'm trying to make a point like this and I fuck it up like that. Anyway, I'd guess the people who do not tolerate Muslims probably feel that way because of what is going on in the Middle East. It just bothered me to look at those three particular numbers being off from one another. Kind of like how it bothers me when I open the freezer to get ice cream and there is only one spoonful in the pint. But not in the same way. At all. Forget I said that. I'm going to stop typing now.
Don't worry about it. lol

In any case, I suspect the reason is because the OP made no distinction between radical Islam and mainstream Muslims, which leaves posters forced to pick one option.

Come on. This is NS General. Surely we're more sophisticated than that.
No we're not.

Don't worry about it. lol

In any case, I suspect the reason is because the OP made no distinction between radical Islam and mainstream Muslims, which leaves posters forced to pick one option.
Well, that leaves me a tad more hopeful.

No we're not.
You mean, you're not.

Tolerance is not trying to force your beliefs down someone's throat, acceptance is agreeing with something.
Acceptance doesn't imply agreeing with something; it means acknowledging the fact that others either have differing morals, or view the world in a different way, and are therefore entitled the right to do or think whatever they please without having to incur constant discrimination or reprobation from others around them.

I draw the line, of course, whenever someone starts either harming or inconveniencing others on purpose. A person who says he or she believes in the KKK is entitled to his/her beliefs. But s/he better not try to harm or harass anyone, because his/her right to have differing beliefs stop where the other's right to safety and peace of mind starts.

No we're not.
Hmmm.

Yeah, you're right.

Well, that leaves me a tad more hopeful.
There is little reason to despair anyway...around 80% are tolerant of Islam, even though no dichotomy was made between its more radical elements. Not too far behind moderate Christians.

There is little reason to despair anyway...around 80% are tolerant of Islam, even though no dichotomy was made between its more radical elements. Not too far behind moderate Christians.
Well, it really wasn't that that bothered me. I guess I just like my racists to be pure haters and I like people who are tolerant of one race to be tolerant of all. At least in the feverish daze I find myself in today.

I do believe that the KKK and neo-Nazis are wrong. I'm entitled to that belief at least as much as they are to their beliefs don't you think? Couldn't you be accused of elitism if you refuse to accept my beliefs ... according to your own argument.

Oh, I don't really have a problem with you having a different point of view, far from it.



I hope you accept these arrogant and foolish people - wouldn't do to be elitist about that would it? ;)

Heck, I know plenty of arrogant and (in my eyes) foolish people. I just don't go around calling them foolish and arrogant all day. That would be rude, and judgemental. I accept them as they are, but of course those that show themselves interested in changing and boradening their horizons, I welcome.(again, they must want the change themselves, I never try to force acceptance down anyone's throat)


As I see it, the wise and open-minded don't preach at all.
I don't make a habit of it myself, but when I do preach, it's more of a "here's what I think, if you're interested to know more, we can always discuss it more over a cup of hot chocolate."