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Having majorly fucked up Iraq and facing a huge slump in his popularity, Bush clearly sees his authority will be secured by gaining support from typical reactionary elements of society by playing to their homophobic nature in this case and their racism over the issue of immigrants. What a knob.

clicky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5044428.stm)

Having majorly fucked up Iraq and facing a huge slump in his popularity, Bush clearly sees his authority will be secured by gaining support from typical reactionary elements of society by playing to their homophobic nature in this case and their racism over the issue of immigrants. What a knob.
Ok, time to go to Canada!

Homosexuals are trying to get married, aaahhh!!! They'll ruin the family system as we know it! Volcanoes will erupt, tsunamis will ravage the coasts, and armies of mole people will rise from the ground to conquer us all! It's all gonna happen because homosexuals want to get married and have the same rights as heterosexual marriages!

Ok, time to go to Canada!
*opens arms and makes welcoming gestures*

Come on, all the reasonable folks are welcome. But leave the fundies behind, willya?

Ok, time to go to Canada!

Or, kill him?

Homosexuals are trying to get married, aaahhh!!! They'll ruin the family system as we know it! Volcanoes will erupt, tsunamis will ravage the coasts, and armies of mole people will rise from the ground to conquer us all! It's all gonna happen because homosexuals want to get married and have the same rights as heterosexual marriages!

Mole people count as a natural disaster now? They should predict them on the weather forcasts 'and in the south, we have a cold front of mole-people moving in, so there's gonna be a bit of a frost'.

Liasia']Mole people count as a natural disaster now? They should predict them on the weather forcasts 'and in the south, we have a cold front of mole-people moving in, so there's gonna be a bit of a frost'.

Don't you see what's happening?! If homosexuals get married it will be the end of the world!!

What happens when capitalism and puritanism collude?

Ugh.

Any room in BC? I rather fancy Victoria.

What happens when capitalism and puritanism collude?

Ugh.

Any room in BC? I rather fancy Victoria.
Ive heard toronto is nice. I think I might just head up there.

Unlike all of you, I'm already prepared for evacuation should TSHTF. Hardly a drive to the border, and I have friends up there! But seriously, at this point Bush is attempting to appeal to the crowd that have garnared the hate of a large population (Or at least their media representatives) for a little boost in popularity. It's sad to see an American president have their career die like a cockroach that took a full can of Raid.

clicky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5044428.stm)

Having majorly fucked up Iraq and facing a huge slump in his popularity, Bush clearly sees his authority will be secured by gaining support from typical reactionary elements of society by playing to their homophobic nature in this case and their racism over the issue of immigrants. What a knob.

One way to settle the issue of whether or not a majority of the people wants a ban on gay marriage is to let it come to a Constitutional Amendment. It must get a 2/3 majority in the Congress, and then be voted on by the states. If the majority of the people want a ban, what is wrong with that?

We are a Democratic Republic so, should the majority not rule? If the people on the radical right don't have enough influence to carry the Amendment, it will die and the issue will be settled once and for all. If a people on the left don’t have enough clout to kill it, the matter will still be settled.

We know what the left wants; we know what the right wants, so those who are in the center are the unknowns. Let it go forward and find out what they want.

One way to settle the issue of whether or not a majority of the people wants a ban on gay marriage is to let it come to a Constitutional Amendment. It must get a 2/3 majority in the Congress, and then be voted on by the states. If the majority of the people want a ban, what is wrong with that?

We are a Democratic Republic so, should the majority not rule? If the people on the radical right don't have enough influence to carry the Amendment, it will die and the issue will be settled once and for all. If a people on the left don’t have enough clout to kill it, the matter will still be settled.

We know what the left wants; we know what the right wants, so those who are in the center are the unknowns. Let it go forward and find out what they want.

Because they've tried and it never even makes it out of commitee. Bush knows an amendment will never EVER pass. The thing is he's playing the fundies for votes, and apparently they're dumb enough to fall for it.

One way to settle the issue of whether or not a majority of the people wants a ban on gay marriage is to let it come to a Constitutional Amendment. It must get a 2/3 majority in the Congress, and then be voted on by the states. If the majority of the people want a ban, what is wrong with that?

We are a Democratic Republic so, should the majority not rule? If the people on the radical right don't have enough influence to carry the Amendment, it will die and the issue will be settled once and for all. If a people on the left don’t have enough clout to kill it, the matter will still be settled.

We know what the left wants; we know what the right wants, so those who are in the center are the unknowns. Let it go forward and find out what they want.

Amen to that. Could they wait a few years 'til I can vote though?

What happens when capitalism and puritanism collude?

Ugh.

Any room in BC? I rather fancy Victoria.
Yes, come to Victoria! Canada welcomes all of you! :p

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is just another non-issue being pushed around to distract the ignorant masses from the real crimes being commited by the criminal elements running the White House and the Pentagon. If it passes, it will be another step for America towards Theocracy.

Besides, what are these conservative douchebags trying to protect? The "Sanctity" of marriage? Lets see... 50% of marriages in the US end in divorce, 27% of those withing the first 10 years. Is this what they are trying to protect?? Whats so sacred about that? I say, if homosexuals want to be a part of such a bleak and depressing statistic, let them!!!

One way to settle the issue of whether or not a majority of the people wants a ban on gay marriage is to let it come to a Constitutional Amendment. It must get a 2/3 majority in the Congress, and then be voted on by the states. If the majority of the people want a ban, what is wrong with that?

We are a Democratic Republic so, should the majority not rule? If the people on the radical right don't have enough influence to carry the Amendment, it will die and the issue will be settled once and for all. If a people on the left don’t have enough clout to kill it, the matter will still be settled.

We know what the left wants; we know what the right wants, so those who are in the center are the unknowns. Let it go forward and find out what they want.

You have to prove the US and the general welfare of the people are being hurt by this.

It will NEVER pass muster as it is nothing more then desperation of a lame duck President who is learning he is one of the worst Presidents ever.

He did us a great favor as Jeb will never get a chance of being one.

Yes, come to Victoria! Canada welcomes all of you! :p
Thanks, hun. I'll meet you at Roger's Chocolates or The Tapa Bar in Trounce Alley?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is just another non-issue being pushed around to distract the ignorant masses from the real crimes being commited by the criminal elements running the White House and the Pentagon. If it passes, it will be another step for America towards Theocracy.

Besides, what are these conservative douchebags trying to protect? The "Sanctity" of marriage? Lets see... 50% of marriages in the US end in divorce, 27% of those withing the first 10 years. Is this what they are trying to protect?? Whats so sacred about that? I say, if homosexuals want to be a part of such a bleak and depressing statistic, let them!!!
Are you aware that your sig is utterly impossible to read?

One way to settle the issue of whether or not a majority of the people wants a ban on gay marriage is to let it come to a Constitutional Amendment. It must get a 2/3 majority in the Congress, and then be voted on by the states. If the majority of the people want a ban, what is wrong with that?

We are a Democratic Republic so, should the majority not rule? If the people on the radical right don't have enough influence to carry the Amendment, it will die and the issue will be settled once and for all. If a people on the left don’t have enough clout to kill it, the matter will still be settled.

We know what the left wants; we know what the right wants, so those who are in the center are the unknowns. Let it go forward and find out what they want.
The majority rules, so long as their ruling does not stomp on the minority's rights. That's why we can't lynch you in the street for posting this, even if 9/10ths of us wanted to. The majority rules, but it must find a ruling that meets the bill of rights.

Thanks, hun. I'll meet you at Roger's Chocolates or The Tapa Bar in Trounce Alley?
Damn that Tapa Bar has good food. Ever had their eggplants? Absolutely phenomenal (sp?).

Didn't Dubya do this same exact type of thing right before the LAST elections?

Because they've tried and it never even makes it out of commitee. Bush knows an amendment will never EVER pass. The thing is he's playing the fundies for votes, and apparently they're dumb enough to fall for it.

Well, isn't that what politicians do, play to the side they think will give them the most votes? The Senate palayed to the Latino vote on the immigration bill, now the President plays to the left. God man, this is an election year. I say clean house and send all those professional politicans home.

The majority rules, so long as their ruling does not stomp on the minority's rights. That's why we can't lynch you in the street for posting this, even if 9/10ths of us wanted to. The majority rules, but it must find a ruling that meets the bill of rights.

There is nothing in the bill of rights that gives anyone the right to marry. A good compromise might be to define marrage as between a man and a woman and allow civil unions. No people on the right wouldn't totally happy and neither would people on the left, but that's compromise.

Sometimes I wish I were more Cthulhu and less Mindset so I can devour people like George Bush.

The majority rules, so long as their ruling does not stomp on the minority's rights. That's why we can't lynch you in the street for posting this, even if 9/10ths of us wanted to. The majority rules, but it must find a ruling that meets the bill of rights.

Marriage is something the Bill of Rights should never address.

Leave Religion to have it's own concept of marriage and allow for civil unions to handle gay marriage.

The problem is the Republicans is now the Christian Coalition and they don't want gays married period.

There is nothing in the bill of rights that gives anyone the right to marry. A good compromise might be to define marrage as between a man and a woman and allow civil unions. No the right isn't totally happy and neither is the right, but that's compromise.

Religion didn't create the concept of marriage.

He did us a great favor as Jeb will never get a chance of being one.

Never say never.. seems like every time you look at something and think it could never happen, or nobody is stupid enough to let it.. you begin to realize that stupidity knows no bounds. It keeps digging deeper and deeper and making you want to hit your head on a wall. :headbang:

Never say never.. seems like every time you look at something and think it could never happen, or nobody is stupid enough to let it.. you begin to realize that stupidity knows no bounds. It keeps digging deeper and deeper and making you want to hit your head on a wall. :headbang:

I can hope. ;)

Probably the reason they are trying to get Jeb to run the NFL is so people can forget about him. Or at least think of him in a positive light.

We are a funny people. I don't think the people are ready to elect 3 people from the same family to the oval office.

Besides, the Schiavo affair will haunt him if he tries. The retard tried to have the Marshalls take her out of the hospitol. :rolleyes:

Great doing the exact same shit that they did in 2004 to get reelected then!

It feels like 1770 again...
Okay then
DOWN WITH KING GEORGE!!!

Great doing the exact same shit that they did in 2004 to get reelected then!

It feels like 1770 again...
Okay then
DOWN WITH KING GEORGE!!!

ROFLMAO. :p

Damn that Tapa Bar has good food. Ever had their eggplants? Absolutely phenomenal (sp?).
Yes they do and yes I have. I also love their martini selection. Another place I've been that's terrific is Pescatore.

Yes they do and yes I have. I also love their martini selection. Another place I've been that's terrific is Pescatore.
I've never been there before, actually. What kind of food do they make?

*takes notes for possible future travel*

Yes they do and yes I have. I also love their martini selection. Another place I've been that's terrific is Pescatore.

I missed something. ...Ok I'm old and that's my excues...Where are these Tapa bars you are refering to? I lived in Spain for three years and all the bars had great tapas. So where are these? I know they aren't in Oklahoma, UAS.

ROFLMAO. :p
Thank you very much. Who's with me, we'll dress up in robes and dump cargo off a corporate ship.*
(Back then, Indians were considered the Savage Terrorists)

*Note to all NSA CIA trackers, Yes I am Kidding.

Why does everyone act like this is a Bush problem. It's a current politicians problem. The DOMA was passed and supported by Clinton and that was an attack on rights as well. The whole lot of them could give a crap about sexual rights. They are right they are willing to trade for votes.

I missed something. ...Ok I'm old and that's my excues...Where are these Tapa bars you are refering to? I lived in Spain for three years and all the bars had great tapas. So where are these? I know they aren't in Oklahoma, UAS.
Victoria, BC, Canada, since these guys were talking of moving up to Canada in general.

Here I come Canada.

Why does everyone act like this is a Bush problem. It's a current politicians problem. The DOMA was passed and supported by Clinton and that was an attack on rights as well. The whole lot of them could give a crap about sexual rights. They are right they are willing to trade for votes.
The problem with DOMA is that not only does it restrict full faith and credit but until such time as the supreme court decide to strike it down it'll just fester. DAMN BUSH!!!!!!! (AND CLINTON)

Are you aware that your sig is utterly impossible to read?

No problem, I'll fix it:cool:

clicky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5044428.stm)

Having majorly fucked up Iraq and facing a huge slump in his popularity, Bush clearly sees his authority will be secured by gaining support from typical reactionary elements of society by playing to their homophobic nature in this case and their racism over the issue of immigrants. What a knob.
Homophobic means fear of homosexuals. Fear and hate, although related, are not the same.

Homophobic means fear of homosexuals. Fear and hate, although related, are not the same.

Incredibly, definitions of words are allowed to deviate from the definitions of their roots. Although even if they weren't, homophobia would not mean "fear of homosexuals," but rather "fear of the same."

So basically, the bottom line is to stop nitpicking, because it's pretty darn annoying.

Homophobic means fear of homosexuals. Fear and hate, although related, are not the same.

Phobia doens't just mean fear. It can mean an irrational aversion as well.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/-phobia

Marriage is a stupid, bureaucratic civil ceremony. America over the years have built laws around it, such that those whom cannot marry literally are devoid of several legal rights here in America which those whom are married have (such is the case for people like Sam Beaumont (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/relationships/23585res20060124.html).) This is why it is vital, first and foremost of all, that Gay Marriage must not be illegalized.

To state any further point I imagine would be idle preaching to the choire.

Homophobic means fear of homosexuals. Fear and hate, although related, are not the same.
The Pedant ass of the day award goes to...
Dah! Dah!

Sel Appa!!

No surprises there...

Iraq in turmoil
Accusations of US Army massacres
Economy teetering on the brink
Energy crisis
Iran making threats
Dafur descending into a hellish civil war
Terrorists being arrested in Canada
Interest rates being raised to keep the economy in check
Debt to GDP ratio viewed as unsustainable
China throwing their weight around
Earthquake in Indonesia leaving thousands dead

All that (and more), and what does GWB see as the most important thing that is threatening America which needs to be addressed and solved asap?

Why, A couple of fruits telling the world they love each other.

way to go George. Good to see you've got your priorities right.

"An amendment to the constitution is necessary because activist courts have left our nation with no other choice,"
Activist courts?
Damn those leftist activist courts!
Just wish we had a right-wing president to choose ultra-conservative judges for SCOTUS.
But I guess that's never going to happen, right?

Bush is trying to distract attention from his screw ups on the border issue by appealing to the overwhelming majority of his voters, Christians and religious folk.

Go for it..but get other more important things squared away first. Border security. Gay marriage ban. Border marriage security ban?

One way to settle the issue of whether or not a majority of the people wants a ban on gay marriage is to let it come to a Constitutional Amendment. It must get a 2/3 majority in the Congress, and then be voted on by the states. If the majority of the people want a ban, what is wrong with that?

We are a Democratic Republic so, should the majority not rule? If the people on the radical right don't have enough influence to carry the Amendment, it will die and the issue will be settled once and for all. If a people on the left don’t have enough clout to kill it, the matter will still be settled.

We know what the left wants; we know what the right wants, so those who are in the center are the unknowns. Let it go forward and find out what they want.

This issue should not be left to democracy. The people have no right to deny a portion of the population their rightful equality. A majority of Southerners once supported segregation, but it was still an abomination.

Bush is trying to distract attention from his screw ups on the border issue by appealing to the overwhelming majority of his voters, Christians and religious folk.

Go for it..but get other more important things squared away first. Border security. Gay marriage ban. Border marriage security ban?


You might be on to something.

More border agents to protect the country from those icky gay people.

clicky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5044428.stm)

Having majorly fucked up Iraq and facing a huge slump in his popularity, Bush clearly sees his authority will be secured by gaining support from typical reactionary elements of society by playing to their homophobic nature in this case and their racism over the issue of immigrants. What a knob.
George Bush is not a Christian, but an aggressive, anti-freedom warmonger. He is a liberal on immigration and he is overexceeding his bounds when it comes to gay marriage -- the federal government has nothing to do with marriage, and any action regarding it is illegal.

--The Christian View