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Look at this photo (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/195/earthspace23ac.jpg) carefully, or you might miss it...

Simply stunning.

Its the most bootiful thing I've seen.

That was funny. :)

Though I generally prefer a closer view of my home. Looks better that way, I think.

Fake.

That is so fake-looking it's not even funny.

"home, home on legrange, where the space debry always collects, where we have, so it seems, two of ..."

fine looking bit of space flotsam whatever it is, not much room for a garden though, unless you mean the planet.

(and why on earth would some artifact floating arround out in interplanetary space somewhere have to be fake? is this a conclave of flat earthers or something?)

=^^=
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What's so cool about it? Am I missing something?

What's so cool about it? Am I missing something?

My thoughts exactly :p

My thoughts exactly :p


Ditto.

Look at this photo (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/195/earthspace23ac.jpg) carefully, or you might miss it...

Simply stunning.

Possibly real. The vehicle in the foreground looks like a lunar lander.

The vehicle in the foreground *is* the Lunar Lander, as a matter of fact.

That's what I thought, but the angle makes it look Photoshopped....still a neat pic though whether it's real or not.

The vehicle in the foreground *is* the Lunar Lander, as a matter of fact.

So it has a good chance to be a real photo then. Demonstrating that IL Ruffino can in fact be wrong. Because he is not Straughn.

So it has a good chance to be a real photo then. Demonstrating that IL Ruffino can in fact be wrong. Because he is not Straughn.

We have not yet demonstrated that Il Ruffino was incorrect in this regard, we have simply not yet ruled it out. However, it is highly probable that this photo is real, as there exist real photos of the Earth taken from the Moon and of the Lunar Lander-- it is likely that a photograph would have been taken with both those in it.

However, it is possible that this one has been photoshopped, which would explain why the link was to imageshack rather than a NASA site or something.

So it has a good chance to be a real photo then. Demonstrating that IL Ruffino can in fact be wrong. Because he is not Straughn.
Except why would it be rusty-looking?

Ditto.
double ditto, which I think means that I ditto your ditto wihich was a ditto of sorts of something!:(

Except why would it be rusty-looking?
I've seen that in real photos, the luna lander never actually looked real to me.

magnificent

Nice but fake ... that lander is too clean to be on the moon! :p

looks real to me. why would it ever need to be faked?

its a cool picture.

Looks fake to me.

can we have it insured?

can we have it insured?

Against what? :p
Space-bird strike?

Is it me or do the shadows look totally wrong. The whole of the side of the Lunar lander is in sunlight, yet the Earth is only half in sunlight. Given the shadows on the lunar lander, surely nearly the whole side of the earth that we can see should be lit up.

I've always wondered: What is it about not being able to see any stars in space pics like these?

I've always wondered: What is it about not being able to see any stars in space pics like these?

the contrast between the ground and the stars is too much to pick up on that’s why you look up at the stars because you cant see them looking forwards or some BS like that

the contrast between the ground and the stars is too much to pick up on that’s why you look up at the stars because you cant see them looking forwards or some BS like that

Ah. That makes sense.

So, if a picture was to be shot "up", there would be stars in view. Interesting.

I've always wondered: What is it about not being able to see any stars in space pics like these?
Contrast - the light form the lander is several million times brighter than the light from the stars. Stand under a streetlight at night and look up - you won't see any stars then either.

Contrast - the light form the lander is several million times brighter than the light from the stars. Stand under a streetlight at night and look up - you won't see any stars then either.

Yeah. Damn physics.

Contrast - the light form the lander is several million times brighter than the light from the stars. Stand under a streetlight at night and look up - you won't see any stars then either.

Saying that, light from distant stars should be far more visible as there is no atmosphere to interfere. True, the sunlight from the sun is stronger in same proportion as well - and far more deadly with no radiation shield which protects the Earth.

Is it me or do the shadows look totally wrong. The whole of the side of the Lunar lander is in sunlight, yet the Earth is only half in sunlight. Given the shadows on the lunar lander, surely nearly the whole side of the Earth that we can see should be lit up.I think you're wrong here. The Earth shows the sun to coming from the top of the view with a slant the right
eg.
____Sun
____/
Earth

And the shadows on the Lander seem to show that sun is in a similar direction due to how the shadows are cast.

edit: I think it might be fake though, as there should be more cross hairs in the picture, but I open the picture up in Paint and either the jpg-ing has got rid of the cross hairs that should be in the black or the they were never there in the first place (ie. it's fake).

Yep, on further examination the tip of one of the cross hairs should be seen on the Lander, but it isn't. The cross I'm refering to is the one directly NW of the central cross hair.

(Yay for mucking about in paint to find out where things because you're bored.

It is an amazing photo regardless if it is fake or not.

What's so cool about it? Am I missing something?
yeah... :confused:


personally i find this much more awe-inspiring http://www.universetoday.com/am/uploads/looking_down_on_earth.jpg

I think you're wrong here. The Earth shows the sun to coming from the top of the view with a slant the right
eg.
____Sun
____/
Earth

And the shadows on the Lander seem to show that sun is in a similar direction due to how the shadows are cast.

edit: I think it might be fake though, as there should be more cross hairs in the picture, but I open the picture up in Paint and either the jpg-ing has got rid of the cross hairs that should be in the black or the they were never there in the first place (ie. it's fake).

Yep, on further examination the tip of one of the cross hairs should be seen on the Lander, but it isn't. The cross I'm refering to is the one directly NW of the central cross hair.

(Yay for mucking about in paint to find out where things because you're bored.
im not saying it CANT be a fake. i dont think it is. but i think it would be fairly easy to fake a picture like that.

the trouble is, why would one bother? i cant think of a reason to beyond the fun of the exercise. it doesnt depict anything that isnt true or anything that there probably isnt a real picture of.

it would be like faking a picture of a ford truck on the streets of dallas.

It is an amazing photo regardless if it is fake or not.Not really, there are nicer ones.
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Damnit, why is it so hard to find a good picture of an Earthrise when you want one.

It's just a picture... Not that cool looking IMO.

I think you're wrong here. The Earth shows the sun to coming from the top of the view with a slant the right
eg.
____Sun
____/
Earth

And the shadows on the Lander seem to show that sun is in a similar direction due to how the shadows are cast.

edit: I think it might be fake though, as there should be more cross hairs in the picture, but I open the picture up in Paint and either the jpg-ing has got rid of the cross hairs that should be in the black or the they were never there in the first place (ie. it's fake).

Yep, on further examination the tip of one of the cross hairs should be seen on the Lander, but it isn't. The cross I'm refering to is the one directly NW of the central cross hair.

(Yay for mucking about in paint to find out where things because you're bored.


You're right, the angles are similar, they just don't seem quite to fit when I look at it, thats all.

im not saying it CANT be a fake. i dont think it is. but i think it would be fairly easy to fake a picture like that.

the trouble is, why would one bother? i cant think of a reason to beyond the fun of the exercise. it doesnt depict anything that isnt true or anything that there probably isnt a real picture of.

it would be like faking a picture of a ford truck on the streets of dallas.Commercial manipulation, sometimes the existing photos aren't quite what you want, so you manipulate them slightly to show what you want.

Commercial manipulation, sometimes the existing photos aren't quite what you want, so you manipulate them slightly to show what you want.
they do that ALL the time. sometimes in the grocery store checkout aisle ill look at the cover of magazines and be horrified at how much they airbrush the faces and bodies of famous women until they they are almost impossible to recognize.

but, is THIS picture a commerical photo?

they do that ALL the time. sometimes in the grocery store checkout aisle ill look at the cover of magazines and be horrified at how much they airbrush the faces and bodies of famous women until they they are almost impossible to recognize.

but, is THIS picture a commerical photo?Could be some guy on a visual arts course practicing.

Why am I even tasking about this. It's not like I actually care whether it's fake or not. >.<

Pfft, if you think that about what they do to the women, wait till you see what they do to photos of food.

yeah... :confused:


personally i find this much more awe-inspiring http://www.universetoday.com/am/uploads/looking_down_on_earth.jpg

Damn, that's sexy.

It's nice, but as far as space photos go, this is my hands-down favourite.

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-107/hires/s107e05688.jpg

I prefer galaxies myself.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0310/sombrero_hst_big.jpg

Why would a picture be taken from that angle? Or, moreover, how?

Quite frankly - meh.

This image is indeed real. I found it on some Apollo images archive, and saved it because I thought it looked cool. It's the most distant picture of Earth I've ever seen; the contrast with the spaceship in the foreground only emphasizes it's smallness. Just imagine actually being there and seeing that sight... all life, all people, all civilization bound up in one dime-sized blue dot. It must be the loneliest feeling in the world... or off-world, if you want to get technical about it...

Anyway, while I try to find the original image, here's a quote to mull over:

"Suddenly, from behind the rim of the moon, in long, slow-motion moments of immense majesty, there emerges a sparkling blue and white jewel, a light, delicate, sky-blue sphere laced with slowly swirling veils of white, rising gradually like a small pearl in a thick sea of black mystery. It takes more than a moment to fully realize this is Earth…home. My view of our planet was a glimpse of divinity."

- Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 astronaut

OK, here are some hi-res images I found:

Here's a similar image (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-36-5404.jpg) (a bit more vivid, in my opinion)

This is the original (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-40-5924HR.jpg) one

And one for us Americans (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/as17-134-20384HR.jpg) (warning: dripping with patriotism)

Enjoy! :D

*states obvious*

Space is awesome.