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Advice in dealing with misunderstood loser.

Niew Whenuapai
04-06-2006, 06:34
Yeah, this be my first post, so deal with me here.

Okay, so basically theres this guy whos in a few of my classes who hangs around me and my friends and lately his behaviour has been getting stranger and stranger. He hangs around us in biology because no one else wants him and my friends are getting fed up with him and are now basically mocking him/excluding him/flaming him/critizising everything he says (his gf, his "frequent emo bashing", "sex life" so on...)
He says that stuff to be cool, none of ou believe this...crap?
Yeah, now a couple of days ago, during a bio experiment in which everyone excluded him out of, I had a blood nose (...), I came back to find my friends looking at him in disgust while he was carving his girlfriends name into his arm with an unsterilised craft knife. :headbang:. When he started to "draw" the swastika into his arm, I took and broke the craftknife.

Me and B.Dogg (friends nickname) are starting to feel sorry for this guy, and want to help, but my other friends just want him to die. Any advice one could give?
Kulikovo
04-06-2006, 06:37
Anyone who carves a swastika on their arm deserves to die. I'd stay away from him, he sounds like bad news.
Undelia
04-06-2006, 06:38
He's found a really unhealthy way of atracting attention. Talk to him about getting counciling, but if he doesn't want help, there's nothing you can do.
Ultimatly, it really isn't your problem.
New Zero Seven
04-06-2006, 06:39
He has issues, he needs help.
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 06:39
It has a girlfriend? o.O
Europa Maxima
04-06-2006, 06:39
He's found a really unhealthy way of atracting attention. Talk to him about getting counciling, but if he doesn't want help, there's nothing you can do.
Except stay away from him. Not the sort of person I'd befriend.
Undelia
04-06-2006, 06:40
Except stay away from him. Not the sort of person I'd befriend.
Secounded. If he's willing to hurt himself, he may be willing to hurt others.
Niew Whenuapai
04-06-2006, 06:43
Yeah, some (need suitable word for a bad lesbianish looking personification of a bad breast implant) is his girlfriend. About staying away from him...Yeah he went to hang around on the other table, and 2 days later a guy on the other table paid us (yes true story) to take him back.
Don't ask me where the teacher stands on this. The "guy" is in the bad books after scoring 0% in the mid year exam.
Niew Whenuapai
04-06-2006, 06:44
It has a girlfriend? o.O

lol...it...Suitable....seriously.
MuchoKookoo
04-06-2006, 06:46
Anyone who carves a swastika on their arm deserves to die. I'd stay away from him, he sounds like bad news.

Well hes not really a Nazi he just craves attention thats all so I don't think he deserves to die.
He needs help.Professional help.Tell someone(school counseler,his parents,a therapist,etc.)about him and you need to stay away from him.
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 06:47
It has a girlfriend? o.O
Holy crap! I was thinking the same thing again. STOP READING MY THOUGHTS! This is getting creepy. :(
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 06:47
Holy crap! I was thinking the same thing again. STOP READING MY THOUGHTS! This is getting creepy. :(

I SEE ALL.

:p
Kulikovo
04-06-2006, 06:48
Well hes not really a Nazi he just craves attention thats all so I don't think he deserves to die.
He needs help.Professional help.Tell someone(school counseler,his parents,a therapist,etc.)about him and you need to stay away from him.

He needs a professional to put a bullet in his head (joke). You're right, he probably craves attention and needs serious help. How's his home life?
Europa Maxima
04-06-2006, 06:48
He needs a professional to put a bullet in his head (joke). You're right, he probably craves attention and needs serious help. How's his home life?
His parents are probably locked in a basement or something. :p
Kulikovo
04-06-2006, 06:50
His parents are probably locked in a basement or something. :p

Or dead...
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 06:50
I SEE ALL.

:p
But but but...you can't. 'Tis not possible...*bursts out in tears*

You're creeeeepy.
Undelia
04-06-2006, 06:51
Or dead...
Or both!:eek:
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 06:51
His parents are probably locked in a basement or something. :p
:eek:

I'll bet he has a personal dungeon reserved for his parents!
Niew Whenuapai
04-06-2006, 06:51
You're right, he probably craves attention and needs serious help. How's his home life?

From what hes told me, screwed. His stepdad believes hes too immature to own a car because he "drives too recklessly on racing games" (GT4, Forza etc...) and he has done drugs. His biological dad is a nut from what he's told me but most of the stuff he says I believe is attention-seeking, reputation "improving" bullshit and everyone else knows it.
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 06:53
From what hes told me, screwed. His stepdad believes hes too immature to own a car because he "drives too recklessly on racing games" (GT4, Forza etc...) and he has done drugs. His biological dad is a nut from what he's told me but most of the stuff he says I believe is attention-seeking, reputation "improving" bullshit and everyone else knows it.

I knew people like that...Note the use of the past tense, your best bet is to avoid them as much as possible :)
Europa Maxima
04-06-2006, 06:54
:eek:

I'll bet he has a personal dungeon reserved for his parents!
Complete with pet demon and Iron Maidens. :)

Off topic though. [/hijack]
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 06:54
From what hes told me, screwed. His stepdad believes hes too immature to own a car because he "drives too recklessly on racing games" (GT4, Forza etc...) and he has done drugs. His biological dad is a nut from what he's told me but most of the stuff he says I believe is attention-seeking, reputation "improving" bullshit and everyone else knows it.

WOW thats really sad about his stepdad not letting him drive because of racing games which I purposefully crash in all the time but I still drive.
Yes,its most likely some attention seeking bullshit but what if its not?
Europa Maxima
04-06-2006, 06:56
WOW thats really sad about his stepdad not letting him drive because of racing games which I purposefully crash in all the time but I still drive.
Yes,its most likely some attention seeking bullshit but what if its not?
More likely though that his step-dad thinks he is not fit to drive, and uses that as an excuse.
Erastide
04-06-2006, 06:57
Assuming your school's not total crap, there should be a counselor or maybe even a nurse to report his behavior to. Some kind of adult intervention is needed, and it seems it won't be coming from his parents.

And the teacher shouldn't care about him getting 0% on a test if he's harming himself. :(
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 06:57
But but but...you can't. 'Tis not possible...*bursts out in tears*

You're creeeeepy.
Er.

*gives tissue*

There, there.

It's not just you. Mwahahaha.
New Zero Seven
04-06-2006, 06:58
Well, who would let a swastika-drawing, arm-carving individual drive anyway? I'd be scared if he was on the road.
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 06:58
It's not just you. Mwahahaha.

It's not? :eek:
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:00
It's not? :eek:

Perhaps he is in the closet in your room with a laptop?
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:00
It's not? :eek:

I do get accused of it fairly often. :p
Erastide
04-06-2006, 07:00
It's not? :eek:
Sidenote... your sig's over 8 lines. Here's your chance to change it before you lose the lovely quote boxes. ;)
Niew Whenuapai
04-06-2006, 07:00
Assuming your school's not total crap, there should be a counselor or maybe even a nurse to report his behavior to. Some kind of adult intervention is needed, and it seems it won't be coming from his parents.

And the teacher shouldn't care about him getting 0% on a test if he's harming himself. :(

School is not total crap. Decile 10! (dunno if you know about that...= little/no outside support/High quality)...(Sorry, I have high pride for our awesome school. Westlake for life (single sex tho...:headbang: )

Well his cutting is the only extreme thing he's done. The rest is mostly bullshit. Thats a good idea tho, report to a nurse/counsellor.
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:01
Perhaps he is in the closet in your room with a laptop?

Not quite, I don't have a laptop.
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 07:01
Er.

*gives tissue*

There, there.

It's not just you. Mwahahaha.
*inches forward slowly*

*snatches away tissue*

*runs and hides into corner farthest away from Kanabia*
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:04
Sidenote... your sig's over 8 lines. Here's your chance to change it before you lose the lovely quote boxes. ;)

Oh, my apologies...It that better?
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:04
Not quite, I don't have a laptop.

Well Iy could be me manipulating both of you.

By the time you read this I'll be right behind you but when you look I'll disappear.;)
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:05
Not quite, I don't have a laptop.

You're in my closet? :eek:
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 07:05
Oh, my apologies...It that better?
Darkness, you could just take away the quote tags. That'd save a lot of room.
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:06
You're in my closet? :eek:

No I'm right behind you but when you look I disappear.:D
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:06
*inches forward slowly*

*snatches away tissue*

*runs and hides into corner farthest away from Kanabia*

*Comforts La Dame... Gives chocolate* :p
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:08
Know this Beautiful Darkness.I'm always watching you.Good-Bye.Good luck going to sleep.;)
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:08
Darkness, you could just take away the quote tags. That'd save a lot of room.

Oh, now there's an idea. Thanks :D
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:08
Know this Beautiful Darkness.I'm always watching you.Good-Bye.Good luck going to sleep.;)

:eek:!
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 07:09
Know this Beautiful Darkness.I'm always watching you.Good-Bye.Good luck going to sleep.;)
+1 in forum stalker count for you, Darkness. I stand by my comment that you are one popular lady. :p
Erastide
04-06-2006, 07:17
Oh, now there's an idea. Thanks :D
You should bold the people's names too to make them stand out. :)
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:23
*inches forward slowly*

*snatches away tissue*

*runs and hides into corner farthest away from Kanabia*

*gives you the EVIL GLARE of being able to see inside your head* ;)

Know this Beautiful Darkness.I'm always watching you.Good-Bye.Good luck going to sleep.;)

Mmm, don't worry about this guy, TBD. I'm already hiding in his bed.
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 07:25
*gives you the EVIL GLARE of being able to see inside your head* ;)
It's okay. I don't mind anymore. Read the sig. :D
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:25
*gives you the EVIL GLARE of being able to see inside your head* ;)



Mmm, don't worry about this guy, TBD. I'm already hiding in his bed.

or is it I in your sheets my friend,I think we know who here is in denial.
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:25
+1 in forum stalker count for you, Darkness. I stand by my comment that you are one popular lady. :p

W00t! :(
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:26
You should bold the people's names too to make them stand out. :)

Ah, another great idea :D

Thanks muchly!
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:27
Mmm, don't worry about this guy, TBD. I'm already hiding in his bed.

Funny but... :eek:
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:29
OK darkness,I'm done with my jokes.Please tell me if you got freaked when you saw me message in two forums.How is it after noon were you live?
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:31
or is it I in your sheets my friend,I think we know who here is in denial.

Fool, I never sleep.

It's okay. I don't mind anymore. Read the sig. :D

I refuse to have my name associated with such a poor example of orthography.

;)

You will fail to earn favour until this is rectified, servant. :p


Funny but... :eek:

Heheheh.
IL Ruffino
04-06-2006, 07:31
I loooooove eggs.
New Zero Seven
04-06-2006, 07:32
I loooooove eggs.

Me too! I like mine scrambled, they're the bestest!
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:33
[QUOTE=Kanabia]Fool, I never sleep.

Very true,but as you know I m currently right behind darkness so its impossible to be in any bed unless its hers.
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:34
How is it after noon were you live?

Well, several hundred years ago, we discovered that the earth was in fact spherical, and revolves upon its axis around the sun. As a consequence, only half of the planet can experience a particular time of day at any given moment.
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:35
Fool, I never sleep.

Very true,but as you know I m currently right behind darkness so its impossible to be in any bed unless its hers.

I'm not near my bed... If you are behind me, you should know that :p
IL Ruffino
04-06-2006, 07:36
Me too! I like mine scrambled, they're the bestest!
I'm so high.
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 07:37
Well, several hundred years ago, we discovered that the earth was in fact spherical, and revolves upon its axis around the sun. As a consequence, only half of the planet can experience a particular time of day at any given moment.

*Applauds, assuming when you say "a particular time of day", you mean day or night* :p
IL Ruffino
04-06-2006, 07:37
Well, several hundred years ago, we discovered that the earth was in fact spherical, and revolves upon its axis around the sun. As a consequence, only half of the planet can experience a particular time of day at any given moment.
LIESLIESLIESLIESLIESLIESLIESLIESLIES.

Allll lies.
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:39
I'm not near my bed... If you are behind me, you should know that :p
i never said I was near your bed but if hes trying to ambush me then your bed would be a likely place since that is were I'm going to take you...;)
Takakurimus
04-06-2006, 07:40
Anyone who carves a swastika on their arm deserves to die. I'd stay away from him, he sounds like bad news.
Blz remember NOT to confuse Swastika with a nazi-cross. They really are two totally different things.
So you say that carving an ancient scandinavian symbol in your arm means you deserve to die? in that case by wearing any body jewelry you deserve to die aswell. not to mention wearing clothes for appearance.
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:42
i never said I was near your bed but if hes trying to ambush me then your bed would be a likely place since that is were I'm going to take you...;)

Too bad you wouldn't know what to do after that.
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:43
I grow bored at this typing.I think I'll just speak to you tonight when you see me in person and lose every trace of sanity you have...Remember me ;)
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 07:44
*Applauds, assuming when you say "a particular time of day", you mean day or night* :p

Yes, indeed. :p
Murgerspher
04-06-2006, 07:45
Too bad you wouldn't know what to do after that.

You are a fool and an imbicile.Do not try to cross me worm.If you seek a challenge meet me at the sumit of K2.Do not come in the way of me and my prey.
Takakurimus
04-06-2006, 07:52
And then about this guy. I know what it feels to be unaccepted everywhere I go, though don't really recall the actual feelings (I have blocked them away from my mind yrs ago). Being desolate really does leave the marks. No wonder one starts act weird if everyone else just basically kick you in the groin (metaphore) to get you on your knees and out of their nose. Well, he might get out of it with a few.. ummm.. billion scars in his arm and that times itself in the mind, as I did, by just losing his mind. Or then he's basically done for. One thing that helps if someone (you for example) starts to be his friend, asking about his life and supporting him. It's quite hard for a giant to do antfarming day after day, if you follow my lead.
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 08:14
You are a fool and an imbicile.Do not try to cross me worm.If you seek a challenge meet me at the sumit of K2.Do not come in the way of me and my prey.
No, if you want to challenge me, you come here, otherwise I cannot be bothered wasting my precious time on the likes of you.
Niew Whenuapai
04-06-2006, 10:26
And then about this guy. I know what it feels to be unaccepted everywhere I go, though don't really recall the actual feelings (I have blocked them away from my mind yrs ago). Being desolate really does leave the marks. No wonder one starts act weird if everyone else just basically kick you in the groin (metaphore) to get you on your knees and out of their nose. Well, he might get out of it with a few.. ummm.. billion scars in his arm and that times itself in the mind, as I did, by just losing his mind. Or then he's basically done for. One thing that helps if someone (you for example) starts to be his friend, asking about his life and supporting him. It's quite hard for a giant to do antfarming day after day, if you follow my lead.

Thanks Takakurimus, thats the best advice to date. Its just hard to be this guys friend as whoever tries to befriend him becomes a social reject themselves, as being associated with him makes people look at you funny. Stupid socialites...

And I vote that many of the members here need to have a battle royale at the peak of K2. Weapons of choice include: mattress, laptop, pillow, insanity, eggs and darkness. Your all insane. Thank you.
The Beautiful Darkness
04-06-2006, 10:31
And I vote that many of the members here need to have a battle royale at the peak of K2. Weapons of choice include: mattress, laptop, pillow, insanity, eggs and darkness. Your all insane. Thank you.

You're all insane. Thankyou :p
Takakurimus
04-06-2006, 10:42
Thanks Takakurimus, thats the best advice to date. Its just hard to be this guys friend as whoever tries to befriend him becomes a social reject themselves, as being associated with him makes people look at you funny. Stupid socialites...

And I vote that many of the members here need to have a battle royale at the peak of K2. Weapons of choice include: mattress, laptop, pillow, insanity, eggs and darkness. Your all insane. Thank you.

Yeah, well. Been there, done that. Supporting the desolates. It's a hard work, and it really doesn't pay off, but still. If ppl think of your friendship on the basis of that then they're not worth being your friends. REALLY. Or then you don't need enemies. I think that at least 97% of school shootings/killings are done by these desolates losing their mind. So... It's healthy being his friend, even on the cost of something vain like social status. Besides, it really teaches you on the sympathy/empathy-field of life. :p
Super-power
04-06-2006, 12:32
Lol, are you sure he isn't emo himself?
Genaia3
04-06-2006, 13:40
Secounded. If he's willing to hurt himself, he may be willing to hurt others.

If he's not willing to hurt himself he may be willing to hurt others too.
Hobovillia
04-06-2006, 13:49
[QUOTE=Niew Whenuapai]-snip-[QUOTE]


Sounds like a dick, sound like someone I know though, carved not his girlfriends name but someone he likes name into his arm and and scares me, he said he liked me for a little while, which is weird because I look like a ten year old, and a girl when I put my hair up.


Anyway, just looking for attention, the guy I know said he was commiting suicide while I was talking to him on MSN telling me how he was swallowing the pills, I gave him ways he could do it easier like grind 'em up but he wouldn't listen.


Fucking emos.
Hobovillia
04-06-2006, 13:50
Anyone who carves a swastika on their arm deserves to die. I'd stay away from him, he sounds like bad news.


Like the guy from Power of One, the main guy in the end of the book got into a bar fight with him though and carved the union jack into arm and covered it with the other guys mucus so it would scar, cool book.
Iginis
04-06-2006, 14:22
._.
-To the tune of "take me out to the ball game"-
Take him out to a ball game
hope he gets hit in the head
so then
you
can take him to the
old pshycology ward!
Ravea
04-06-2006, 16:42
Kick him in the nuts.

Hard, too.
Ladamesansmerci
04-06-2006, 17:27
I refuse to have my name associated with such a poor example of orthography.

;)

You will fail to earn favour until this is rectified, servant. :p
A poor example of orthography? How so? You must inform my weak mind so I can do anything I can to please you and your godly status. :p
Kanabia
04-06-2006, 17:30
A poor example of orthography? How so? You must inform my weak mind so I can do anything I can to please you and your godly status. :p

Altar. :p
Angry Fruit Salad
04-06-2006, 17:48
Yeah, this be my first post, so deal with me here.

Okay, so basically theres this guy whos in a few of my classes who hangs around me and my friends and lately his behaviour has been getting stranger and stranger. He hangs around us in biology because no one else wants him and my friends are getting fed up with him and are now basically mocking him/excluding him/flaming him/critizising everything he says (his gf, his "frequent emo bashing", "sex life" so on...)
He says that stuff to be cool, none of ou believe this...crap?
Yeah, now a couple of days ago, during a bio experiment in which everyone excluded him out of, I had a blood nose (...), I came back to find my friends looking at him in disgust while he was carving his girlfriends name into his arm with an unsterilised craft knife. :headbang:. When he started to "draw" the swastika into his arm, I took and broke the craftknife.

Me and B.Dogg (friends nickname) are starting to feel sorry for this guy, and want to help, but my other friends just want him to die. Any advice one could give?

You're in highschool, right? Do the asshole thing and report him to the counselor.
Unrestrained Merrymaki
04-06-2006, 19:00
From what hes told me, screwed. His stepdad believes hes too immature to own a car because he "drives too recklessly on racing games" (GT4, Forza etc...) and he has done drugs. His biological dad is a nut from what he's told me but most of the stuff he says I believe is attention-seeking, reputation "improving" bullshit and everyone else knows it.

Its sad really. His parents have probably ignored him most of his life. He also seems oblivious to ridicule, which points to a lifetime of verbal abuse, which for the ignored, is better than no attention at all.

You don't have to be his chum, but it would be best for all concerned if you 1) discouraged other kids from increasing his misery, and 2) talked to your high school councelor yourself and see what he/she can do for this kid. Carving your skin is a symptom of depression and compulsive bahavior. He may think he's "emo", but what he is really doing is asking for help. Apparently nobody at his home cares enough to get it for him, so he is acting out in more and more grandiose ways to call attention to his needs.

I really really feel for this kid. My nephew, although not self-destructive, has some of these same behaviors and dropped out of school because of the lack of friends there. His single-parent mom ignored him except to ridicule him. He talks incessantly about the most bullshit stuff you ever heard. He just makes stuff up, pretends to be an expert on everything, will argue with you on every single point you try to make, and after spending 2 hours in the car with this kid I was ready for a couple of strong drinks! I realize he was raised by a wolf (my sister), a self-indulgent, immature, bitch of a woman. And while its not the kid's fault that he is not socialized (which sounds EXACTLY like the kid in your class), and has no idea how to have a pleasant conversation, how to listen to others, and is completely self-absorbed due to lack of attention, he is old enough to socialize himself and needs to put an effort toward that end. If he doesn't, it WILL directly affect his ability to earn a living. Continued shaming and shunning will only hinder those efforts and you really need to talk to the other kids about finding their own maturity and being a little more understanding.

Good luck.