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Well... do ya?

I do, well at least his polices. Nationalizing major industries, democratic socialism, etc. And I love how he's always criticizing Bush. Ahh, good old Hugo.

For those who are not familiar with foreign leaders, or current events, Hugo Chávez is Venezuela's president.

Hugo Chavez is Satan, an incarnation of the Devil himself. He is a sworn enemy of God, Jesus, America and George W Bush, our noble leader. Just listen to his speeches, he is nowhere near as articulate and inspiring as our president. God Bless America!

I support him exactly the same amount that I support Bush. I don't live in either Venezuela or the USA.
(As it happens I do not support Lula, but that is a different issue.)

Megh.

Perhaps we should start a betting pool on how many years it will be before Chavez succeeds in doing for Venezuela what Mugabe did for Zimbabwe. :rolleyes:

Or should that betting pool be to see how long both creeps will take to make their nation a pesthole along the lines of North Korea? :(

I support him and most of his actions, yes. I do not believe he is God, or that he is perfect. There is a degree of incompetence in the way he is running his country's economy, and that is worrisome, but overall the changes he has made seem positive.

Hmm...is he a dictator? I was under the impression that he was democratically elected, but I could be wrong.

Hmm...is he a dictator? I was under the impression that he was democratically elected, but I could be wrong.
He is democratically elected, yes.

I support Hugo Chavez. He refuses to be bullied by the U.S. and nationalized some key industries and amoung other things that he's done. He appeals to my Socialist beliefs.

Hugo Chavez is Satan, an incarnation of the Devil himself. He is a sworn enemy of God, Jesus, America and George W Bush, our noble leader. Just listen to his speeches, he is nowhere near as articulate and inspiring as our president. God Bless America!

And you call yourself a Pennsylvanian? (Has nothing to do with your post)

This does: WTF?! Bush...noble? Hugo Chavez...Satan? It's hard to believe Bush is more articulate and inspiring as Chavez.

He is helping his country out. Ideologically, I could not be more far apart from the man. That doesn't mean I must hate his every action.

I believe in some of his ideas and I support his notion of an independent, truly nonaligned Latin America. However, I also have serious issues with his nationalization of industry and his pursuit of populism, both of which have led to serious economic hardship just as often as reckless, unrestrained capitalism. His civil and political rights issues also cannot be overlooked.

However, he's neither a savior nor a monster. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for a while and see how things turn out...but right now, I don't really support him and I'm not really against him. It's mainly on an issue by issue basis that I disagree or agree with him.

He is democratically elected, yes.

Well Jimmy Carter says he is, and all good leftists are obliged to believe *everything* Jimmy Carter says. :rolleyes:

I love the guy. The way he pisses off the US is classic, although is Castro is of course the master that. Plus a really agree with his policies. Socialism is the only way to go.

My old Spanish teacher fled Venezuela after Hugo came to power. He still talks with his parents that live there, though. He can hear the clicks of the Venezuelan government listening in on his phone conversations. His parents both voted against Hugo, but they were registered as having voted for him. However, because they tried to vote against him, their government handouts have been taken away. Hugo seizes land from legitimate owners, without compensation, and drills all of the oil from it, spending the proceeds on AKs from Russia. He has told the people that the US is likely to invade any time now, and is trying to build a military larger than ours. Old friends of said spanish teacher seem to mysteriously disappear. The man is clearly a nut, and anybody who says they support his policies is just as crazy. Besides, as soon as Hugo runs out of oil, his government will topple.

Well Jimmy Carter says he is, and all good leftists are obliged to believe *everything* Jimmy Carter says. :rolleyes:

Chavez was in this reality in which we all live in, democratically elected.

Well Jimmy Carter says he is, and all good leftists are obliged to believe *everything* Jimmy Carter says. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't know.

And you call yourself a Pennsylvanian? (Has nothing to do with your post)

This does: WTF?! Bush...noble? Hugo Chavez...Satan? It's hard to believe Bush is more articulate and inspiring as Chavez.
Harrisburg, Oregon, silly. We're the grass seed capital of the world. No joke.

Hugo Chavez also decapitates fluffy bunny rabbits, kills kittens by the thousands, and hates flowers and sunshine, in addition to serving the forces of Hell. :(

Harrisburg, Oregon, silly. We're the grass seed capital of the world. No joke.

Hugo Chavez also decapitates fluffy bunny rabbits, kills kittens by the thousands, and hates flowers and sunshine, in addition to serving the forces of Hell. :(

Silly me (laughs at self)

I do all that stuff (except serving hell). Does that make me a bad person?

Silly me (laughs at self)

I do all that stuff (except serving hell). Does that make me a bad person?
Please, think of the kittens and the fluffy bunnies. :(

Please, think of the kittens and the fluffy bunnies. :(

When I think of kittens and fluffy bunnies I get the urge to kill :D

Silly me (laughs at self)

I do all that stuff (except serving hell). Does that make me a bad person?
It does indeed! You'll certainly be going to hell after that. You may as well start with the devil-worshiping now. Get in Satans good books.

It does indeed! You'll certainly be going to hell after that. You may as well start with the devil-worshiping now. Get in Satans good books.

Hey, better to be next to the devil than in his path ;)

When I think of kittens and fluffy bunnies I get the urge to kill :D
Whenever you kill a fluffy bunny, God masturbates.

Whenever you kill a fluffy bunny, God masturbates.

What God does in his spare time is none of my business. Whenever I kill a fluffy bunny...I kill another one.

Harrisburg, Oregon, silly. We're the grass seed capital of the world. No joke.

Hugo Chavez also decapitates fluffy bunny rabbits, kills kittens by the thousands, and hates flowers and sunshine, in addition to serving the forces of Hell. :(
So... It's that place in Michigan that's causing trouble again. I figured as much.

But why would Chavez serve people from Michigan? :p

What God does in his spare time is none of my business. Whenever I kill a fluffy bunny...I kill another one.
I like to pull their heads off! What method do you prefer?

I like to pull their heads off! What method do you prefer?

I usually just twist their heads completely around. But, when I'm feeling stressed, then I pop the heads off.

So... It's that place in Michigan that's causing trouble again. I figured as much.

But why would Chavez serve people from Michigan? :p
That's where the secret communist plot is directed from. First, they fluoridate our drinking water. Then, they kill us all. Chavez is a mere distraction.

That's where the secret communist plot is directed from. First, they fluoridate our drinking water. Then, they kill us all. Chavez is a mere distraction.

Want some of my tin foil?

I like to pull their heads off! What method do you prefer?
Oi! You! Stop that!

You were supposed to love animals! Or turn them into dinner... But, what?

Oi! You! Stop that!

You were supposed to love animals! Or turn them into dinner... But, what?
I don't eat their heads. Duh!

You know, I never thought Pat Robertson would ever say anything intelligent.
I was proven wrong with his views on Chavez.

I don't eat their heads. Duh!
Why not? They're delicious.

That's where the secret communist plot is directed from. First, they fluoridate our drinking water. Then, they kill us all. Chavez is a mere distraction.
:eek:
Commence Attack Plan R

So... It's that place in Michigan that's causing trouble again. I figured as much.

But why would Chavez serve people from Michigan? :p

Because we're awesome. Duh.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/Dragonkirby/Non-Kirby/Bunnies/LightningBunny.png

Want some of my tin foil?
Depends. Are you a true American who supports private enterprise? Or are you secretly a communist spy who is offering me tin foil, not because it nullifies the insidious communist conspiracy to mind control us if worn in sufficient thickness about our craniums, but because you intend to coat it with poisonous fluoride?

Why not? They're delicious.


:eek:
Commence Attack Plan R
Priority targets: Lansing and Detroit.

Never trust the Fiendish Flouridators!

Never trust the Fiendish Flouridators!
Never trust the Fiendish French Fluoridators ....

Depends. Are you a true American who supports private enterprise? Or are you secretly a communist spy who is offering me tin foil, not because it nullifies the insidious communist conspiracy to mind control us if worn in sufficient thickness about our craniums, but because you intend to coat it with poisonous fluoride?

I was going to give you some to block out the governments MINDAR waves which can read your thoughts. I'm just a conspiracy nut whose's trying to expose the truth.

Never trust the Fiendish French Fluoridators ....

Fiendish Fat French Fluoridators?

Fiendish Fat French Fluoridators?
Mmm-hmm. Fiendish Fat Flatulent French Fluoridators.

Priority targets: Lansing and Detroit.
We can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!

Now let's bomb Michigan to Hell.

He's okay, he needs to stop being thinking that someone is out to get him and focus more on homeland infinstructure and fix the holes that are opening up in his programs.

But It's nice to see a guy who is less about working for the Corporations and more about working for the people.

His Parinoia is what's causing him to be opressive, if he'd calmed down, he wouldn't need to pull any 'Drag off in the night' stuff.

He's okay, he needs to stop being so parnoidand focus more on homeland infinstructure and fix the holes that are opening up in his programs.

It's nice to see a guy who is less about working for the Corporations and more about working for the people.

His Parinoia is what's causing him to be opressive, if he'd calmed down, he wouldn't need to pull any 'Drag off in the night' stuff.
I agree. His pirhanoia is definitely a problem. He is far too pairinoyd.

I agree. His pirhanoia is definitely a problem. He is far too pairinoyd.
Shut the **** up Grammer Nazi.

Shut the **** up Grammer Nazi.
He he, sorry. :D

He he, I'm sorry. :D
Idiot. :rolleyes:

Idiot. :rolleyes:
Well, your sentence lacks a verb.

Chavez was in this reality in which we all live in, democratically elected.

Well, of *course*! After all, Jimmy Carter has told you what to think and to think otherwise than the way a fellow liberal has ordered you to think would be almost like thinking for yourself, right? :p

So why don't we give you some remedial reading from this thread itself? ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11086766&postcount=15

His parents both voted against Hugo, but they were registered as having voted for him.

See, what the Left considers "democratically elected"? :rolleyes:

*snicker* ^~^

Well, your sentence lacks a verb.
I was aware of that. :rolleyes:
I was awaiting your response. You fucking nazi. :p

I was aware of that. :rolleyes:
I was awaiting your response. You fucking nazi. :p
Be kind ... it's all in good fun ... I'd give you fluffle but I don't want you to kill another puppy.

Be kind ... it's all in good fun ... I'd give you fluffle but I don't want you to kill another puppy.
Sorry, you smegging nazi. :rolleyes:
Just for you, I wont kill a puppy...

New Poll Gives Venezuela’s Chavez 82.7% Approval Rating (http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1934)

So, unless massive changes have occurred since April 2006....

In other recent news:

World Bank: Venezuela decreased poverty (http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1979)
Venezuela’s First Quarter GDP Jumps 9.4% Over Last Year (http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1969)

New Poll Gives Venezuela?s Chavez 82.7% Approval Rating (http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1934)

So, unless massive changes have occurred since April 2006....

*Snips the "Hugo Chavez has made the trains run on time!" arguement*

From your link let us note these words...

"...conducted by the Venezuelan Institute for Data Analysis (IVAD)"

In other words it looks like some of Chavez's in-house PR flacks just plucked a few numbers that looked good from the air when they wrote their press release. Not exactly a good substitute for real elections, is it? :rolleyes:

In any event, it's a matter of public record that totalitarian regimes like Stalin's and Mao's almost alway have suspiciously amazing high approval ratings. Given that the poll respondant could be killed for expressing disapproval this isn't exactly a surprise.

BTW, doesn't the fact this site links to sites with names like "New Left Review" and "Green Left" suggest that there might be a little bias within it? Most serious sites do make an effort to link to all sides of the spectrum. Does this site as a whole have any purpose in life other than to provide "happytalk" on behalf of Mr. Chavez? o_O

From your link let us note these words...

"...conducted by the Venezuelan Institute for Data Analysis (IVAD)"

In other words it looks like some of Chavez's in-house PR flacks just plucked a few numbers that looked good from the air when they wrote their press release. Not exactly a good substitute for real elections, is it? :rolleyes:

I see. Now, FAIR is biased, too, but they claim the same thing, and provide numerous polls to support it, from a variety of sources: see here. (http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0502-09.htm)

In any event, it's a matter of public record that totalitarian regimes like Stalin's and Mao's almost alway have suspiciously amazing high approval ratings. Given that the poll respondant could be killed for expressing disapproval this isn't exactly a surprise.

If you're going to claim that Venezuela today is equivalent in this respect to China under Mao or the Soviet Union under Stalin, I don't think there's anything I can say that can convince you otherwise.

BTW, doesn't the fact this site links to sites with names like "New Left Review" and "Green Left" suggest that there might be a little bias within it? Most serious sites do make an effort to link to all sides of the spectrum. Does this site as a whole have any purpose in life other than to provide "happytalk" on behalf of Mr. Chavez? o_O

It's a propaganda site, but a useful one, and while their choice of articles is slanted, the content in the articles tends not to be (except for the opinion pieces, obviously.)