NationStates Jolt Archive


U.S. City Comparisons

Naturality
03-06-2006, 12:05
What makes Camden, New Jersey the "most dangerous" city in America?

population 80,089
White persons, percent, 2000 (a) 16.8%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2000 (b) 38.8%
Black or African American persons, percent, 2000 (a) 53.3%
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/34/3410000.html


What makes Newton, Massachusetts the "safest" city in America?

population 84,323
White persons, percent, 2000 (a) 88.1%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2000 (b) 2.5%
Black or African American persons, percent, 2000 (a) 2.0%
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/25/2545560.html

Coincidence?


http://www.morganquitno.com/safecity.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6555449/
http://www.governmentguide.com/community_and_home/morganmostdangerouscities.adp
Monkeypimp
03-06-2006, 12:06
It's true, we should arrest black babies before they become criminals, right?
Shaoyin
03-06-2006, 12:13
How can Newton, Massachusetts be the safest place when 8% of its population is missing.
Turquoise Days
03-06-2006, 12:17
It's true, we should arrest black babies before they become criminals, right?
Indeed, because this has nothing to do with social conditions at all.

@ Shayoin: Lol!
I V Stalin
03-06-2006, 12:19
How can Newton, Massachusetts be the safest place when 8% of its population is missing.
Don't worry - they seem to be in Camden, NJ.
Naturality
03-06-2006, 12:19
How can Newton, Massachusetts be the safest place when 8% of its population is missing.


Where do you see that in this?
Shaoyin
03-06-2006, 12:22
Where do you see that in this?


The %s just don't add up!
Shaoyin
03-06-2006, 12:24
Indeed, because this has nothing to do with social conditions at all.

@ Shayoin: Lol!

Glad someone sateted the odvious. Lets look at some other facts Camden 35% below poverty line, Newton 4%

I'd steel if i really had to and i'm very white.

BTW I'm not saying all crime is through nessecity
Naturality
03-06-2006, 12:24
The %s just don't add up!


rofl.. ok. so which is it that doesn't add up? the whites? the blacks or the hispanics? I'm sure no matter how you spread that 8% it won't make a damn difference.
BEER SUDS
03-06-2006, 12:25
Indeed, because this has nothing to do with social conditions at all.

You tell them lefty!
Shaoyin
03-06-2006, 12:26
rofl.. ok. so which is it that doesn't add up? the whites? the blacks or the hispanics? I'm sure no matter how you spread that 8% it won't make a damn difference.


It prob makes no difference at all how you spread the rest, i just though it was a funny point to make, sorry if you didn't.
Turquoise Days
03-06-2006, 12:27
rofl.. ok. so which is it that doesn't add up? the whites? the blacks or the hispanics? I'm sure no matter how you spread that 8% it won't make a damn difference.
It could be that there are other ethnicities that make up the 100%
Thanosara
03-06-2006, 12:28
No, it is not a coincidence....but it is not a causal relationship either.

Poor cities have more minorities. Poor cities have more crime. That's economics not genetics.

As long as we're discussing Massachusetts, care to explain how they consistently rank near the top in income, yet near the bottom in charitable contributions?
Naturality
03-06-2006, 12:32
I'm not familiar with the statistic you are speaking of.. but my guess would be

greedy liberal yuppies :p
Naturality
03-06-2006, 12:34
It could be that there are other ethnicities that make up the 100%

Newton - Persons reporting some other race, percent, 2000 (a) 0.7%
Camden - Persons reporting some other race, percent, 2000 (a) 22.8%

Is that what you meant?
Turquoise Days
03-06-2006, 12:43
Newton - Persons reporting some other race, percent, 2000 (a) 0.7%
Camden - Persons reporting some other race, percent, 2000 (a) 22.8%

Is that what you meant?


White persons, percent, 2000 (a) 88.1%
Black or African American persons, percent, 2000 (a) 2.0%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2000 (a) 0.1%
Asian persons, percent, 2000 (a) 7.7%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2000 (a) Z
Persons reporting some other race, percent, 2000 (a) 0.7%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2000 1.5%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2000 (b) 2.5%

If you take all the stats, the percentages add up to just over 100. (rounding error I suspect)
What I was saying is that as you only provided stats for White black and hispanic brackets. This meant the numbers didn't add up in your post, hence the 'joke'.
Vetalia
03-06-2006, 12:46
Well, I was going to say poverty, drugs, and economic devastation caused by years of mismanagement of both the public and private sectors and infrastructure...but I'm sure someone could drag out a racial explanation if they wanted too.
B0zzy
03-06-2006, 13:18
Well, I was going to say poverty, drugs, and economic devastation caused by years of mismanagement of both the public and private sectors and infrastructure...but I'm sure someone could drag out a racial explanation if they wanted too.

I pretty much agree. Recently I was thinking about this and I noticed there seems to be a corelation between the age of a culture and crime. Asians, Arabs and Jews have quite old cultures and the lowest crime rate. Whites have the next oldest (if you consider the US simply a spinoff of Europe) and theirs is next lowest. Hispanic culture is not so much a spinoff from Europe as much a blend of indian and spanish traditions - therefore newer. Black culture in the US is considerably newer and in fact still defining itself.

I don't know if there is any sort of correlation but I thought it worth consideration. I do believe that any 'racial' patterns of crime is to be found not in DNA but in culture.