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I was watching the CBS evening news and they reported that the Government of the US wants ISPs to store all the records of activity for every user for up to 2yrs. That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government. They say its to stop kiddie porn and terrorism which Im completely for, but I think this is blurring the privacy line. Do you have a problem with is, or is it ok?

1: Source?
2: What government, the US governement?

That would be illegal under UK law

1: Source?
2: What government, the US governement?
Yeah, the US government. I saw an article on it earlier today.

It's a fucking invasion of privacy. I can just imagine a journalist's private, legal, but embarrasing internet habits being used to blackmail him into silence by this or some future administration.

1: Source?

the CBS evening news

2: What government, the US governement?

Government of the US

Did you even read the original post?

That would be illegal under UK law
That's fascinating. You must have missed the part of the OP where it says 'Government of the US'.

That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government.Not the keystrokes; they don't leave your computer, unless someone installs a keylogger. But every bit of text sent.

...You have any idea what it would take to even imagine you were pretending you were just testing something like that?

Did you even read the original post?
Yes, though I didn't spot the bit about the government of the us bit. Seeing as I didn't(and couldn't) see the CBS evening news asking for another source is fair.

I was watching the CBS evening news and they reported that the Government of the US wants ISPs to store all the records of activity for every user for up to 2yrs. That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government. They say its to stop kiddie porn and terrorism which Im completely for, but I think this is blurring the privacy line. Do you have a problem with is, or is it ok?

They already filter all the IP traffic on the US backbones. They just want it to be the responsibility of all the ISPs to collect the data that they do themselves.

That way, they can save money by not doing it themselves, and placing the economic burden on the ISPs.

If you don't believe they're recording everything, you're stupid. It's just a matter of what it takes to trip the software to dump your email and forum posts to an analyst's desk.

I once called up a friend of mine who works for the government and said a plethera of "key" words. "Key" word are those which attract attention from the echelon super computer that moniters phone calls.

Friend: Hello?
Me: Hi, nuclear device.
Friend: What?
Me: You know, Plutonium 239.
Friend: (Name Omited) you're not making any sense.
Me: Realy? Are you in a bad area? uranium enrichment.
Friend: This is my office phone, and you know it. Why did you call?
Me: No idea assassinate president.
Friend: I'm going to hang up.
Me: Allright, see you later. Airborne Ebola.
*click*

He thought it was funny later.

I once called up a friend of mine who works for the government and said a plethera of "key" words. "Key" word are those which attract attention from the echelon super computer that moniters phone calls.

Friend: Hello?
Me: Hi, nuclear device.
Friend: What?
Me: You know, Plutonium 239.
Friend: (Name Omited) you're not making any sense.
Me: Realy? Are you in a bad area? uranium enrichment.
Friend: This is my office phone, and you know it. Why did you call?
Me: No idea assassinate president.
Friend: I'm going to hang up.
Me: Allright, see you later. Airborne Ebola.
*click*

He thought it was funny later.
lmao, thats good stuff:D

Yeah, the US government. I saw an article on it earlier today.

It's a fucking invasion of privacy. I can just imagine a journalist's private, legal, but embarrasing internet habits being used to blackmail him into silence by this or some future administration.
Good point, who knows what could happen if they are allowed to do this.

I once called up a friend of mine who works for the government and said a plethera of "key" words. "Key" word are those which attract attention from the echelon super computer that moniters phone calls.

Friend: Hello?
Me: Hi, nuclear device.
Friend: What?
Me: You know, Plutonium 239.
Friend: (Name Omited) you're not making any sense.
Me: Realy? Are you in a bad area? uranium enrichment.
Friend: This is my office phone, and you know it. Why did you call?
Me: No idea assassinate president.
Friend: I'm going to hang up.
Me: Allright, see you later. Airborne Ebola.
*click*

He thought it was funny later.
Hmmm, a plan is forming......

I feel sorry for the poor devils who would be in charge of drudging through most of the pointless drivel that people type

I feel sorry for the poor devils who would be in charge of drudging through most of the pointless drivel that people type
the ones who get to go through all the porn people send each other though. lucky bastards.

LMAO, people seriosly think the government will track every keystroke of every person. that is truely hilarious, yep and theres two people for every person in this country listen to your phone calls and the government has secretly been using flouride in the water as mind control.

and the government has secretly been using flouride in the water as mind control.

I need a tinfoil hat for my teeth now too?

I need a tinfoil hat for my teeth now too?

I think Ruffy beat you to it.

That's fascinating. You must have missed the part of the OP where it says 'Government of the US'.

you might have noticed that my post came before it was confirmed that it was the US govt.

My dad works for the government, so I'm glad he doesn't know my handle on this. I would probably be embarassed by most of what else I have written online, though.

...crap.

LMAO, people seriosly think the government will track every keystroke of every person. that is truely hilarious, yep and theres two people for every person in this country listen to your phone calls and the government has secretly been using flouride in the water as mind control.

Agreed,the goverment will not track every single post.But maybr sites with forums on it like"I'm going to kill the president.com"or something.

Time for the US government to learn the difference between data and information. They are going to have all the data they could possibly have needed to stop anything, but none of the information that they needed.

I was watching the CBS evening news and they reported that the Government of the US wants ISPs to store all the records of activity for every user for up to 2yrs. That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government. They say its to stop kiddie porn and terrorism which Im completely for, but I think this is blurring the privacy line. Do you have a problem with is, or is it ok?


So, I should probably stop logging on to www.naughtynudecoeds.com then?

No, seriously. How are they going to have two years of everything?

So, I should probably stop logging on to www.naughtynudecoeds.com then?

Right after you TG me how to, then yeah, you should stop.

Lets try something.

Kill president
Car Bomb
Bomb Whitehouse
Bomb Capitol building.
Anthrax threat.
Kill senator.
Small Pox epidemic unleashed through Terrorism.
Terrorist Attacks.
Mass Killing of US citizens.
Jihad!
Shoot at white house.

I'm fresh out of ideas.Any one else wanna contribute?
(If you don't know what I'm doing your retarted :p )

Lets try something.

Kill president
Car Bomb
Bomb Whitehouse
Bomb Capitol building.
Anthrax threat.
Kill senator.
Small Pox epidemic unleashed through Terrorism.
Terrorist Attacks.
Mass Killing of US citizens.
Jihad!
Shoot at white house.

I'm fresh out of ideas.Any one else wanna contribute?
(If you don't know what I'm doing your retarted :p )

Nader.


Also, Comunist Nazi Hippie Jew Mexican Abortion Clinic Gay Sodomy Taxes.

Lets try something.

Kill president
Car Bomb
Bomb Whitehouse
Bomb Capitol building.
Anthrax threat.
Kill senator.
Small Pox epidemic unleashed through Terrorism.
Terrorist Attacks.
Mass Killing of US citizens.
Jihad!
Shoot at white house.

I'm fresh out of ideas.Any one else wanna contribute?
(If you don't know what I'm doing your retarted :p )
Don't forget: I voted Kerry

Nader.


Also, Comunist Nazi Hippie Jew Mexican Abortion Clinic Gay Sodomy Taxes.
Lol, Gay Sodomy Taxes.

illegal immigrant workers
ID bullshit
Muslims are right
westboro baptists

New hitler.
Massive Christian killings.
Mexican border crossing.
Illeagl Immigration.
Kill Bush.
Mass Terrorist Attack.
Sell Drugs to politicians.
Oh.. and heres one
Hillary Clinton.

Don't forget: I voted Kerry
So did I.

Lol, Gay Sodomy Taxes.

illegal immigrant workers
ID bullshit
Muslims are right
westboro baptists
LOL!:D westboro baptists!

Democrats
Hilary Clinton
Howard Dean's Scream
Hot Bush Twin Action :cool:

Liberals
Gay rights activist
Moderats(:eek: )
Intellingent Voter.
Intelligent Imigrant
Non-Hyper Conservative.
West Nile Virus Weapon.
Atheist

OK..that should do it.Oh,one more...
Raise Taxes(:eek: )
Lets see if a goverment agent comes.

That's fascinating. You must have missed the part of the OP where it says 'Government of the US'.
Too bad the US doesn't care.

Stolen Nuke
Airborne Bird Flu
Russia Firing Bomb
Iran Nuke
Athiest Terrorists

I was watching the CBS evening news and they reported that the Government of the US wants ISPs to store all the records of activity for every user for up to 2yrs. That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government. They say its to stop kiddie porn and terrorism which Im completely for, but I think this is blurring the privacy line. Do you have a problem with is, or is it ok?
They will not be tracking your posts. They can't do that. All the ISP knows is what IP addresses you hit.

I was watching the CBS evening news and they reported that the Government of the US wants ISPs to store all the records of activity for every user for up to 2yrs. That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government. They say its to stop kiddie porn and terrorism which Im completely for, but I think this is blurring the privacy line. Do you have a problem with is, or is it ok?
Also, they'll still need a court order to get it. They just want it available in cae they get a court order.

That's fascinating. You must have missed the part of the OP where it says 'Government of the US'.

All your ISPs are belong to US.

:D

I was watching the CBS evening news and they reported that the Government of the US wants ISPs to store all the records of activity for every user for up to 2yrs. That means every keystroke and site visited is going to be looked over watched by the Government. They say its to stop kiddie porn and terrorism which Im completely for, but I think this is blurring the privacy line. Do you have a problem with is, or is it ok?
Why does everyone always make an exception for child porn?

Is it really worth it to you to live in a survalence state ala 1984 just to keep pedophiles from getting pictures to masturbate over?

Why does everyone always make an exception for child porn?

Is it really worth it to you to live in a survalence state ala 1984 just to keep pedophiles from getting pictures to masturbate over?
It's not the viewing they're worried about; it's the creation of the pictures. At least, that's what people here think. The idea is that if you can keep blocking the sites, they won't be profitable and people will have one less reason to make them.

That would be illegal under UK law
Ahahahahahaa GCHQ do it all of the time, mate. And we're one of the powers with ECHELON on our land.

I once called up a friend of mine who works for the government and said a plethera of "key" words. "Key" word are those which attract attention from the echelon super computer that moniters phone calls.

Friend: Hello?
Me: Hi, nuclear device.
Friend: What?
Me: You know, Plutonium 239.
Friend: (Name Omited) you're not making any sense.
Me: Realy? Are you in a bad area? uranium enrichment.
Friend: This is my office phone, and you know it. Why did you call?
Me: No idea assassinate president.
Friend: I'm going to hang up.
Me: Allright, see you later. Airborne Ebola.
*click*

He thought it was funny later.
I wonder if I could call the secret service or fbi and do that

I wonder if I could call the secret service or fbi and do that
Say it enough and your phones and messages will get read whoever you're calling, to be honest.

It's not the viewing they're worried about; it's the creation of the pictures. At least, that's what people here think. The idea is that if you can keep blocking the sites, they won't be profitable and people will have one less reason to make them.
I don't think that's an accurate view. For one, I don't see exactly how the profitability does anything to encourage or discourage child abuse. I mean it's not like people who would ordinarily never consider raping children are getting into the buisiness just because there's money in it.

Further, if it were just about punishing and discouraging the manufacturers, you'd think that throwing the book at those on posession charges would be idiotic, considering the option of letting them off if they agree to help take down the supplier. Kind of like how the police try to operate with drug offenses.

Originally Posted by MuchoKookoo
Lets try something.

Kill president
Car Bomb
Bomb Whitehouse
Bomb Capitol building.
Anthrax threat.
Kill senator.
Small Pox epidemic unleashed through Terrorism.
Terrorist Attacks.
Mass Killing of US citizens.
Jihad!
Shoot at white house.

I'm fresh out of ideas.Any one else wanna contribute?
(If you don't know what I'm doing your retarted )


Don't forget: I voted Kerry

Mucho is safe, but Ifreann; check outside your window now and tell me if you see a dark sedan with tinted windows...

All your ISPs are belong to US.

:D

oh jesus christ.....:p

oh jesus christ.....:p

All your messiah are belong to us.