NationStates Jolt Archive


They have no reason to complain.

Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:26
So these parents of cheerleaders are all in an uproar over the fact that their kids' cheerleading performances have been videotaped and are being sold over the internet. They say it's exploitative and almost equal to child porn. Boo Fucking Hoo. Guess what? You've allowed your kid to dance around in a short skirt in public. Let me say that again. IN PUBLIC. That means you don't get to decide who watches and who takes pictures. If you don't want people looking at your kid, don't let her cheer.

Sure the videos are marketed to creepy guys, but they contain no illegal content. If the content was illegal, schools across the country would face serious criminal charges for child exploitation.

In addition to that, since when is a video of cheerleaders equivalent to child porn? That would make cheerleading coaches across the nation child pornographers. ESPN2, when they show cheerleading competitions, would be, in effect, broadcasting kiddy porn.

DEBORAH SANCHEZ: I would consider this tape in the category of child erotica or child pornography.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9270716/detail.html
I V Stalin
02-06-2006, 16:30
Assuming that said parents have seen or own the video, they should be arrested for viewing/owning child pornography. That'll shut them up.
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:35
Consider the irony. I originally saw this reported on a TV news show. TV news shows often rely on videotaping and broadcasting images of people in public. If they succeed in getting laws passed to ban taping cheerleaders, those laws could also be applied to videotaping underage people on the beach, out in the street or just about anywhere. They TV news' own success would put it out of business.
Demented Hamsters
02-06-2006, 16:36
I'm surprised none of the parents aren't sueing the distributors for some of the profits. They filmed their kids without consent, I assume, so surely they'd be entitled to something.
Dorstfeld
02-06-2006, 16:37
Burkhas for cheerleaders.
Problem solved.
Philosopy
02-06-2006, 16:38
We've got laws preventing people filming at kids events here in Britain. If you want to film a performance, even if it's your own child at something like a Nativity play, you have to obtain permission to do so first.
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:41
We've got laws preventing people filming at kids events here in Britain. If you want to film a performance, even if it's your own child at something like a Nativity play, you have to obtain permission to do so first.
So if I videotape some of my friends at the beach and somebody's kid runs through the scene I could get arrested there?
I V Stalin
02-06-2006, 16:42
So if I videotape some of my friends at the beach and somebody's kid runs through the scene I could get arrested there?
Not quite the same thing...
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:42
I'm surprised none of the parents aren't sueing the distributors for some of the profits. They filmed their kids without consent, I assume, so surely they'd be entitled to something.
In that case I'll make a career out of walking around in the background of live news reports and sueing the television stations.
Sinuhue
02-06-2006, 16:42
Hmmmm...our laws are certainly different. According to the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act, no picture or video of a child can be released publicly without a waiver. Even children's work can not be displayed publicly without parental consent...meaning even a teacher can not put Little Johny's drawing up outside the classroom without asking his mom or dad first.

I would be very upset, as a parent, to know that some freakin' pervert was pawing himself while watching my child engage in athletics. Should cheerleaders, figure skaters, ballerinas and soccer players wear a hijab so you don't blast the parents for letting them wear such 'indecent' clothing?
Dorstfeld
02-06-2006, 16:43
Nah. Only if you sell the footage on.
Purposely filming other people's kids on British beaches, however, could land you in jail.
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:43
Not quite the same thing...
OK, if I'm a football coach at a high school and I film an opposing team playing a game to study their plays and get the cheerleaders in the shot I can go to prison?
Philosopy
02-06-2006, 16:43
So if I videotape some of my friends at the beach and somebody's kid runs through the scene I could get arrested there?
I don't think so, more that if someone complained about you filming at the beach you might be asked to hand over the tape.

To be honest, I don't really know the details, but I do remember hearing people complain about not being able to photograph their own kids.
Kyronea
02-06-2006, 16:45
So these parents of cheerleaders are all in an uproar over the fact that their kids' cheerleading performances have been videotaped and are being sold over the internet. They say it's exploitative and almost equal to child porn. Boo Fucking Hoo. Guess what? You've allowed your kid to dance around in a short skirt in public. Let me say that again. IN PUBLIC. That means you don't get to decide who watches and who takes pictures. If you don't want people looking at your kid, don't let her cheer.

Sure the videos are marketed to creepy guys, but they contain no illegal content. If the content was illegal, schools across the country would face serious criminal charges for child exploitation.

In addition to that, since when is a video of cheerleaders equivalent to child porn? That would make cheerleading coaches across the nation child pornographers. ESPN2, when they show cheerleading competitions, would be, in effect, broadcasting kiddy porn.



http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9270716/detail.html
There's cheerleading, and then there's blatant attempts at making all the men in the audience horny. Mostly, I've seen the latter, at any cheerleading performance I was forced to attend. Especially in California. They were litterally SLAPPING THEIR ASSES AND SIGHING AT THE AUDIENCE! That's just...no. Cheerleading is about cheering, not making me horny! :mad:
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:51
Hmmmm...our laws are certainly different. According to the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act, no picture or video of a child can be released publicly without a waiver. Even children's work can not be displayed publicly without parental consent...meaning even a teacher can not put Little Johny's drawing up outside the classroom without asking his mom or dad first.

I would be very upset, as a parent, to know that some freakin' pervert was pawing himself while watching my child engage in athletics. Should cheerleaders, figure skaters, ballerinas and soccer players wear a hijab so you don't blast the parents for letting them wear such 'indecent' clothing?
I'm not blasting the parents for letting their kids wear "incecent" clothing. I'm blasting the parents for complaining that people can take pictures of something going on out in public.
Sinuhue
02-06-2006, 16:54
I'm not blasting the parents for letting their kids wear "incecent" clothing. I'm blasting the parents for complaining that people can take pictures of something going on out in public.
Concerts and other events often have restrictions on photography and videotaping, why should this be any different?
Khadgar
02-06-2006, 16:54
There's cheerleading, and then there's blatant attempts at making all the men in the audience horny. Mostly, I've seen the latter, at any cheerleading performance I was forced to attend. Especially in California. They were litterally SLAPPING THEIR ASSES AND SIGHING AT THE AUDIENCE! That's just...no. Cheerleading is about cheering, not making me horny! :mad:

Cheerleaders A.K.A Future Porn Stars of America.
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 16:58
Concerts and other events often have restrictions on photography and videotaping, why should this be any different?
Parents traditionally tape their kid's sporting events. If you ban taping alot of parents will be pissed off if they can't tape their human-larva engaging in sporting events.
UpwardThrust
02-06-2006, 17:01
Hmmmm...our laws are certainly different. According to the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act, no picture or video of a child can be released publicly without a waiver. Even children's work can not be displayed publicly without parental consent...meaning even a teacher can not put Little Johny's drawing up outside the classroom without asking his mom or dad first.

I would be very upset, as a parent, to know that some freakin' pervert was pawing himself while watching my child engage in athletics. Should cheerleaders, figure skaters, ballerinas and soccer players wear a hijab so you don't blast the parents for letting them wear such 'indecent' clothing?
But they mad at someone having an electronic format of something that anyone that walked in the damn room would have seen

The compition was open, they had no problem showing off what they were wearing to all the football fans but all the sudden it becomes bad that they happen to be on tape showing off the the croud
UpwardThrust
02-06-2006, 17:15
Concerts and other events often have restrictions on photography and videotaping, why should this be any different?
Locally here the only restrictions are if it interferes with the event, my band concerts were always taped and photographed as the camera had no effect on the event.
Sinuhue
02-06-2006, 17:16
Parents traditionally tape their kid's sporting events. If you ban taping alot of parents will be pissed off if they can't tape their human-larva engaging in sporting events.
Awww DC...no little kiddlings in your future?
Drunk commies deleted
02-06-2006, 17:18
Awww DC...no little kiddlings in your future?
Why would you assume that?
Sinuhue
02-06-2006, 17:20
Why would you assume that?
I just don't picture you with human larva...would you give them endearing names like 'maggot' and 'pupa'?

Anyway, I'm just disturbed that freaks would use these videos in any self-pleasuring sense...perhaps it's one of those things that 'if I don't know, it won't make me puke'?
Demented Hamsters
02-06-2006, 17:55
Burkhas for cheerleaders.
Problem solved.
Y'know, when I first saw your post, I thought it said:
Bukkakes for cheerleaders.
Problem solved

Now, THAT tape would sell!
Demented Hamsters
02-06-2006, 17:58
In that case I'll make a career out of walking around in the background of live news reports and sueing the television stations.
Surely there's a difference between a station making a live news report and inadvertently filming someone and a sleazeball delibrately filming cheerleaders for the sole intention of making a vid and money from said vid.
The news station isn't making money directly from the live report, whereas the cheerleader DVD maker is. And that's why the parents should be sueing for a share of the profits.
The Union Confederates
02-06-2006, 18:19
So these parents of cheerleaders are all in an uproar over the fact that their kids' cheerleading performances have been videotaped and are being sold over the internet. They say it's exploitative and almost equal to child porn. Boo Fucking Hoo. Guess what? You've allowed your kid to dance around in a short skirt in public. Let me say that again. IN PUBLIC. That means you don't get to decide who watches and who takes pictures. If you don't want people looking at your kid, don't let her cheer.

Sure the videos are marketed to creepy guys, but they contain no illegal content. If the content was illegal, schools across the country would face serious criminal charges for child exploitation.

In addition to that, since when is a video of cheerleaders equivalent to child porn? That would make cheerleading coaches across the nation child pornographers. ESPN2, when they show cheerleading competitions, would be, in effect, broadcasting kiddy porn.



http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9270716/detail.html
It always pisses me off how some people can be such assholes. clothed cheerleaders = child porn?
Mahria
02-06-2006, 22:16
But they mad at someone having an electronic format of something that anyone that walked in the damn room would have seen

The compition was open, they had no problem showing off what they were wearing to all the football fans but all the sudden it becomes bad that they happen to be on tape showing off the the croud

Exactly! If somebody was creepy, they could just go to the game and watch. How different would it be? Still, must be a bit of a disappointment-search "hot cheerleaders" on the internet, and then you get porn. Halfway through these, the guy must grumble, "I paid for this?"
Dinaverg
02-06-2006, 22:24
Y'know, when I first saw your post, I thought it said:


Now, THAT tape would sell!

You assume it doesn't already exist. It has to, somewhere.
Dorstfeld
02-06-2006, 22:26
You assume it doesn't already exist. It has to, somewhere.

And he watched it, repeatedly.
Insert Quip Here
02-06-2006, 22:37
Surely there's a difference between a station making a live news report and inadvertently filming someone and a sleazeball delibrately filming cheerleaders for the sole intention of making a vid and money from said vid.
The news station isn't making money directly from the live report, whereas the cheerleader DVD maker is. And that's why the parents should be sueing for a share of the profits.
On the contrary, TV stations DO make money directly from the live report. Remember the commercial break between the teaser for the report and the report itself?
Ladamesansmerci
02-06-2006, 22:50
So these parents of cheerleaders are all in an uproar over the fact that their kids' cheerleading performances have been videotaped and are being sold over the internet. They say it's exploitative and almost equal to child porn. Boo Fucking Hoo. Guess what? You've allowed your kid to dance around in a short skirt in public. Let me say that again. IN PUBLIC. That means you don't get to decide who watches and who takes pictures. If you don't want people looking at your kid, don't let her cheer.

Sure the videos are marketed to creepy guys, but they contain no illegal content. If the content was illegal, schools across the country would face serious criminal charges for child exploitation.

In addition to that, since when is a video of cheerleaders equivalent to child porn? That would make cheerleading coaches across the nation child pornographers. ESPN2, when they show cheerleading competitions, would be, in effect, broadcasting kiddy porn.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9270716/detail.html
Child porn? Are you kidding me? The video films only what other people see anyway. If this is child porn, then everybody who's ever seen cheerleaders should be arrested. This just brings me to my point that cheerleading is a degrading sexist sport (if you can even call it that). Seriously, how many people are interested in the cheerleading itself, and not the blatent sexuality?
Celtlund
02-06-2006, 22:54
Consider the irony. I originally saw this reported on a TV news show. TV news shows often rely on videotaping and broadcasting images of people in public. If they succeed in getting laws passed to ban taping cheerleaders, those laws could also be applied to videotaping underage people on the beach, out in the street or just about anywhere. They TV news' own success would put it out of business.

TV news even tapes cheerleaders, and then show it on the news. :eek:
Kecibukia
02-06-2006, 22:55
TV news even tapes cheerleaders, and then show it on the news. :eek:

So local channels that televise High school games are now breaking the law?

Damn, I used to like watching that. I guess I must be a pervert.
Dinaverg
02-06-2006, 22:58
Child porn? Are you kidding me? The video films only what other people see anyway. If this is child porn, then everybody who's ever seen cheerleaders should be arrested. This just brings me to my point that cheerleading is a degrading sexist sport (if you can even call it that). Seriously, how many people are interested in the cheerleading itself, and not the blatent sexuality?

I'm just watching the twirling batons...How do they do that?
The Aeson
02-06-2006, 23:09
Well, on the one hand...

But he, or maybe she, is taping just one thing: the cheerleaders -- focusing on their mouths, breasts and crotches, freezing shots under their skirts, during kicks or splits. Tapes sold on Ebay as "hot cheerleader videos" going for upwards of $70 each.

On the other...

Then our cameras followed him to this post office where we saw another similar looking box being mailed to Arkansas.
Ifreann
02-06-2006, 23:11
You assume it doesn't already exist. It has to, somewhere.
Rule #34 of the internet-There is always porn of it, no exceptions.
Drake Gryphonhearth
02-06-2006, 23:35
Rule #34 of the internet-There is always porn of it, no exceptions.
Even of people being captured by sarcastic mutants and being roughly interrogated?
Dinaverg
02-06-2006, 23:43
Even of people being captured by sarcastic mutants and being roughly interrogated?

Duh. That was probably one of the first.