NationStates Jolt Archive


Time to take a trip to the UK

Kecibukia
01-06-2006, 22:11
We really need some sort of "lecherous" smilie.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060601/hl_nm/binge_drinkers_dc

Girls overtake boys as binge drinkers: study

Thu Jun 1, 1:21 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Teenage girls in the UK have overtaken boys as binge drinkers for the first time and are now second only behind Irish girls in Europe, according to a report on Thursday.

The Institute of Alcohol Studies said 29 percent of teenage girls were binge drinkers in 2003 compared with 26 percent of boys. In 1999 the figure was 27 percent and 33 percent respectively.

It said over a quarter of all 15- and 16-year-olds in Britain had been on drink binges three or more times in the last month.
New Burmesia
01-06-2006, 22:20
Little 15-year-old chav shits don't count as human, so therefore those figures are bunk.
ShuHan
01-06-2006, 22:27
yeah fucking chavs, and emos, and hip hops. if the whole culture was all indie we would be a utopia
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 10:44
This really isn't a case where much of a fuss should be made. Since the UK classifies "binging" as drinking 8 units (for men, 6 for women) or over within a 24 hour time limit.

Hardly a great feat. In fact it is surprisingly easy to binge. And since the threshold for girls is lower it is hardly surprising they "binge" more.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 10:45
Little 15-year-old chav shits don't count as human, so therefore those figures are bunk.

yeah fucking chavs, and emos, and hip hops. if the whole culture was all indie we would be a utopia

Why let facts get in the way of class hatred though?
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 10:46
In alcohol was banned...
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 10:49
In alcohol was banned...

Huh?
HotRodia
02-06-2006, 10:49
Why let facts get in the way of class hatred though?

Why let facts get in the way of any of our beliefs? :)
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 10:50
Huh?

If alcohol were banned completely, you wouldn't get children going out and getting drunk.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 10:52
Why let facts get in the way of any of our beliefs? :)

Touché
HotRodia
02-06-2006, 10:52
If alcohol were banned completely, you wouldn't get children going out and getting drunk.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Hehehehehehe. :D

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that banning a substance prevented folks from abusing it. Worked soooo great during Prohibition in the US, right? :p
San haiti
02-06-2006, 10:52
In alcohol was banned...

Hasnt that already been tried before? Like wasnt it prohibited or something? I wonder how that turned out.
Tharlia
02-06-2006, 10:53
Just like cocaine being banned completely has stopped the amount of addicts... Doesn't work that simply... would be nice if it did though.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 10:53
If alcohol were banned completely, you wouldn't get children going out and getting drunk.

Well done. You figured out that drinking alcohol gets people drunk, therefore if there was no alcohol nobody would get drunk.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 10:55
We didn't quite get it right there I admit. In fact when Izzy and Moe (famous prohibition agents) went to New Orleans to see how fast it would take them to get a drink, it took only 35 seconds, because when asking the taxi driver about speak easies, he offered them a bottle of whiskey.

But anyway, if the ban was managed with more efficiency, the majority of alcohol usage could be wiped out.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 10:57
But anyway, if the ban was managed with more efficiency, the majority of alcohol usage could be wiped out.

Doubtful. Alcohol is very easy to make.
San haiti
02-06-2006, 10:58
We didn't quite get it right there I admit. In fact when Izzy and Moe (famous prohibition agents) went to New Orleans to see how fast it would take them to get a drink, it took only 35 seconds, because when asking the taxi driver about speak easies, he offered them a bottle of whiskey.

But anyway, if the ban was managed with more efficiency, the majority of alcohol usage could be wiped out.

Why dont you try it with drugs first, then if you manage to wipe that out, you can have a go at alcohol.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:02
We've done it with drugs, the majority of people do not use controlled substances.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:07
We've done it with drugs, the majority of people do not use controlled substances.

At huge cost to the taxpayer and society
Ellick Higson
02-06-2006, 11:07
pfff that might be true in america but in australia its as easy as breathing to get drugs expecially if you live in the country
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:08
At huge cost to the taxpayer and society

What's the cost to society? As for the cost to the tax payer it has saved many lives and souls.
San haiti
02-06-2006, 11:09
What's the cost to society? As for the cost to the tax payer it has saved many lives and souls.

Wait, what? How is my soul affected if I do drugs?

edit: its also cost a lot of lives.
HotRodia
02-06-2006, 11:10
What's the cost to society? As for the cost to the tax payer it has saved many lives and souls.

Interesting. I wasn't aware that the government was supposed to be saving souls.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:11
What's the cost to society?

Maybe the huge amount of non-violent people being locked up due to punitive laws has escaped you notice. At any rate, it hasn't escaped the notice of the overwhelmed prison system
Free shepmagans
02-06-2006, 11:12
We didn't quite get it right there I admit. In fact when Izzy and Moe (famous prohibition agents) went to New Orleans to see how fast it would take them to get a drink, it took only 35 seconds, because when asking the taxi driver about speak easies, he offered them a bottle of whiskey.

But anyway, if the ban was managed with more efficiency, the majority of alcohol usage could be wiped out.
Death penalty+drunkenstumbling=extreamly low amounts of drinkers. Just saying...
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:13
Maybe the huge amount of non-violent people being locked up due to punitive laws has escaped you notice. At any rate, it hasn't escaped the notice of the overwhelmed prison system

Easy; expand the prison service.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:15
Easy; expand the prison service.

It isn't as simple as saying "Abracadabra, more prisons" *poof*

Expanding the prison system is very hard. Especially in the UK, which this thread was originally about
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:16
In the UK, it's even easier; scrap the NHS and *poof* you have a free £72,000,000,000.
Turquoise Days
02-06-2006, 11:17
In the UK, it's even easier; scrap the NHS and *poof* you have a free £72,000,000,000.
And lots of dead people.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:18
No, just safer people who will access to better private health care.
HotRodia
02-06-2006, 11:18
And lots of dead people.

Well that just means more room to build prisons, no? ;)
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:19
In the UK, it's even easier; scrap the NHS and *poof* you have a free £72,000,000,000.

Maybe in Bizzaro-UK, but not in the real one.

It is somewhat of a truism that the NHS is "the closest thing th eUK has to a national religion."

It is policially impossible.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:21
People would soon get use to better health care and a better standard of living away from alcohol related diseases.
San haiti
02-06-2006, 11:23
People would soon get use to better health care and a better standard of living away from alcohol related diseases.

So you havent seen that survey recently which shows that on average britons are more healthy than americans?
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:25
Source: ?

And the obesity crisis effects statistics and I'm just as cross about that.
Turquoise Days
02-06-2006, 11:26
Well that just means more room to build prisons, no? ;)
It's genius! If everybody's dead, then no-one can drink and we'll all go to heaven!
HotRodia
02-06-2006, 11:27
It's genius! If everybody's dead, then no-one can drink and we'll all go to heaven!

Shh. Don't let the government hear of your brilliant plan. :cool:
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:27
It's genius! If everybody's dead, then no-one can drink and we'll all go to heaven!

But in heaven there is no beer :(
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:28
People would soon get use to better health care and a better standard of living away from alcohol related diseases.

Your social engineering sucks dude.
Turquoise Days
02-06-2006, 11:29
But in heaven there is no beer :(
That's because beer is teh Ebul Satan.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:29
It would work in practice.
Kazcaper
02-06-2006, 11:30
Source: ?http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12595624/

To cite one example.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 11:31
It would work in practice.

Any proof of that?
San haiti
02-06-2006, 11:31
Source: ?

And the obesity crisis effects statistics and I'm just as cross about that.

crap, I cant find it. Anyone got a link to the study that shows canadians are more healthy than americans? It was on NS a few days ago.

edit: http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=861775e5-9657-40de-9eaa-023fe853b880&k=59558

I know its not about Britian, but it shows socialised healthcare doesnt suck as you seem to think it does. I'll still try and find the british one.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:31
Any proof it wouldn't work?
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 11:34
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12595624/

To cite one example.

It all comes down to obesity and nutritional intake, rather than quality of health care which is a real shame.
San haiti
02-06-2006, 11:36
It all comes down to obesity and nutritional intake, rather than quality of health care which is a real shame.

In case you havent noticed, Britian's got quite a nice obesity epidemic brewing now.
Boonytopia
02-06-2006, 11:38
It would work in practice.

I don't think so. You just don't get it. People want to drink alcohol, we like its effect. Alcohol prohibition was tried in the USA & it failed spectacularly. Drugs like heroin, speed, ecstasy, cocaine & marijuana are all currently illegal here in Australia, as in the USA, but they're all also easily obtainable. The government has banned them, but it hasn't stopped people from wanting to use them, and where there is a demand, there will always be a supply. You can't just legislate something like that out of existance.
Anarchic Conceptions
02-06-2006, 12:09
Any proof it wouldn't work?

So you don't then.

Good, good.
Peepelonia
02-06-2006, 12:24
yeah fucking chavs, and emos, and hip hops. if the whole culture was all indie we would be a utopia


Heh Shit man, can you not remember when you where young?
Peepelonia
02-06-2006, 12:28
No, just safer people who will access to better private health care.


heheh wot planet are you actualy one then?
Londim
02-06-2006, 12:47
Mars?

Anyway as many people have said alcohol isn't gonna go away. Its been around for centuries and can't be gotten rid of overnight. And people like alcohol. Think of the uproar it would cause if it was banned.
Kamsaki
02-06-2006, 13:00
Alcohol's problem is that the only people in a position to prevent it from being abused are the people making a profit from it.

Nationalise the drinks industry and you've got the best of both worlds!
[NS]Liasia
02-06-2006, 13:45
Alcohol's problem is that the only people in a position to prevent it from being abused are the people making a profit from it.

Nationalise the drinks industry and you've got the best of both worlds!

Mmmm victory gin for all:p
Similization
02-06-2006, 13:51
It's interesting how many people around here's gut reaction to any & all percieved problems, is to criminalise the product/behaviour/idea.
The State of Georgia
02-06-2006, 13:51
So you don't then.

Good, good.

You don't either.

Good, good.
Peepelonia
02-06-2006, 13:54
You don't either.

Good, good.


Say..... your not just copying each other now are ya??

Good, good.
Xandabia
02-06-2006, 14:06
I'd take care these"girls" are also very violent and mostly mingers(technical term for extreme unnatractiveness)
Anarchic Conceptions
03-06-2006, 01:50
You don't either.

But I do.

One only has to look at recent political history in the UK to realise that such an idea is unworkable.
Bodies Without Organs
03-06-2006, 02:11
It would work in practice.

No it wouldn't: it would end in bloody revolution. The people of the British Isles have been merrily brewing and drinking alcohol for over four thousand years. Any politician attempting to introduce prohibition would be laughed from the house.*


* which coincidentally itself contains 8 bars (none of which are required to conform to standard licensing hours or regulation).