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"A light spanking, as all pretty little girls deserve to be spanked once a day.''

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http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/63069.html

70-year-old thespian spanked actress, 21

CAMERON SIMPSON May 31 2006

One of Stornoway's leading thespians appeared in court yesterday accused of spanking a 21-year-old actress on the bottom after a private rehearsal.
"All pretty little girls deserve to be spanked once a day," 70-year-old Frank Harrison, a former area chairman of the Scouts association, told Gemma Louise McGhee as he put her over his knee.
Ms McGhee, who said she viewed Harrison "as a grandfather figure", reported his actions to the police and he appeared at Stornoway Sheriff Court charged with assault.

Fiona Macdonald, depute fiscal, told the court that both Harrison and Ms McGhee were members of the Stornoway Thespians.
In January, they began work on a new production directed by Harrison, who is a past president of the Stornoway Rotary Club.
Part of the young actress's role involved throwing a large sheet over a six-foot bird cage, an action she had struggled with in rehearsals.
To get it right, Harrison and Ms McGhee arranged for an extra rehearsal on the morning of Wednesday, February 15, at the Thespians' premises.
Ms McGhee rehearsed her part for about 20 minutes.

Harrison said they had better leave, then put his right arm around her shoulder, gave her a hug and added: "Thank you Gemma.''
However, he then went to the rear of the building and came back with an old dining chair. He sat on it and made mention of "temptation'' before he grabbed Ms McGhee by the waist and pulled her towards him. He pushed her over his knee and struck her on the bottom four of five times. Harrison told her: "A light spanking, as all pretty little girls deserve to be spanked once a day.''

One of Stornoway's leading thespians appeared in court yesterday accused of spanking a 21-year-old actress on the bottom after a private rehearsal.
"All pretty little girls deserve to be spanked once a day," 70-year-old Frank Harrison, a former area chairman of the Scouts association, told Gemma Louise McGhee as he put her over his knee.
Ms McGhee, who said she viewed Harrison "as a grandfather figure", reported his actions to the police and he appeared at Stornoway Sheriff Court charged with assault.
Fiona Macdonald, depute fiscal, told the court that both Harrison and Ms McGhee were members of the Stornoway Thespians.
In January, they began work on a new production directed by Harrison, who is a past president of the Stornoway Rotary Club.
Part of the young actress's role involved throwing a large sheet over a six-foot bird cage, an action she had struggled with in rehearsals.
To get it right, Harrison and Ms McGhee arranged for an extra rehearsal on the morning of Wednesday, February 15, at the Thespians' premises.
Ms McGhee rehearsed her part for about 20 minutes. Harrison said they had better leave, then put his right arm around her shoulder, gave her a hug and added: "Thank you Gemma.''
However, he then went to the rear of the building and came back with an old dining chair. He sat on it and made mention of "temptation'' before he grabbed Ms McGhee by the waist and pulled her towards him. He pushed her over his knee and struck her on the bottom four of five times. Harrison told her: "A light spanking, as all pretty little girls deserve to be spanked once a day.''

The accused then helped Ms McGhee to her feet. When she asked why he had spanked her, he again mentioned temptation. He then insisted on giving her a lift into the town centre to her work.
When she returned home, she discussed the matter with her family and the police were contacted.
When he was interviewed, Harrison told police: "On an impulse I pulled a chair across and pulled her over my knee and smacked her bottom."
Harrison admitted assault. Sentence was deferred until July 18 for social inquiry and community

Is it creepy to find this slightly erotic?

I think this could be described as hot thespian action!

I think this could be described as hot thespian action!
Ah, but were the thespians masticating at the time? Mmmmm...masticating thespians...

Is it creepy to find this slightly erotic?


i was thinking the same thing.....is that creepy as well?

i was thinking the same thing.....is that creepy as well?
It means we're soul mates.

Ah, but were the thespians masticating at the time? Mmmmm...masticating thespians...


this thread is getting a little tense....need....fresh...air


and an ice pack

Hmm... freaky yet kinky.

Interesting... :cool:

Freeeky :eek:

Ya know, if he wanted to spank someone, he should have found someone willing to play. Not forced himself on this woman.

A 21 year old was overpowered by a 70 year old? Man, I wonder what his prescription is.

Sweet,merciful crap.


I bet the thespian masticated til he expectorated.

A 21 year old was overpowered by a 70 year old? Man, I wonder what his prescription is.


viagara

okay, seriously, this is not cool. I'm sure she could have overpowered him, but I doubt this was a forceful situation. If she sees him as a grandfather figure, she probably just played along before she realised what the heck he was planning on doing, and didn't know how to get out of an awkward situation. Upon further reflection (which many of us need when a situation is very strange, overwhelming, or shocking) she realised that their professional relationship had been compromised, and the person she looked up to was a little freaky. Disturbing, no doubt.

I bet the thespian masticated til he expectorated.
Excellent conclusion!

Shes lucky he didnt lock her in the giant bird cage and start stripping down to his Y fronts in front of her. Crazy Brits

Shes lucky he didnt lock her in the giant bird cage and start stripping down to his Y fronts in front of her. Crazy Brits


brits are known for their giant bird cages

Sweet,merciful crap.


I bet the thespian masticated til he expectorated.

It was a postmature expectoration then

brits are known for their giant bird cages

Indeed. Before she was unwillingly brought into the geezers spanking fetish she was there to practice the lost art of covering giant birdcages with sheets.

okay, seriously, this is not cool. I'm sure she could have overpowered him, but I doubt this was a forceful situation. If she sees him as a grandfather figure, she probably just played along before she realised what the heck he was planning on doing, and didn't know how to get out of an awkward situation. Upon further reflection (which many of us need when a situation is very strange, overwhelming, or shocking) she realised that their professional relationship had been compromised, and the person she looked up to was a little freaky. Disturbing, no doubt.


I had an English teacher in 6th grade that was about 65-70 yrs old at the time. He used to have the pretty girls in the class sit on his lap to read aloud. We knew it was wrong at the time and it was the excuse for the numerous and serious pranks we subjected him to.

These days, that must have near criminal implications. I'm still confused as to why none of those girl's fathers came to the school to beat him senseless.

Indeed. Before she was unwillingly brought into the geezers spanking fetish she was there to practice the lost art of covering giant birdcages with sheets.


i believe there is tickling with feathers involved....

i wonder if she hasnt ruined her career by calling the police over this creepy but harmless incident.

sure he was wrong. very wrong. but did it really required the police and formal charges? not as a first recourse. if *I* were looking for an actress, i wouldnt hire one who did something like this.

It was a postmature expectoration then


Thats great!! :D

The only thing I found noteworthy was the name Gemma. I know a Gemma in Britain. Is it a common name there, or what?

Yes, it's fairly common.

I demand pics of the spankee so I know whether or not to be aroused!

Yes, it's fairly common.

I demand pics of the spankee so I know whether or not to be aroused!


you could always google the name on an image search....

These days, that must have near criminal implications. I'm still confused as to why none of those girl's fathers came to the school to beat him senseless.
Perhaps none of them told their fathers?

i wonder if she hasnt ruined her career by calling the police over this creepy but harmless incident.

sure he was wrong. very wrong. but did it really required the police and formal charges? not as a first recourse. if *I* were looking for an actress, i wouldnt hire one who did something like this.
Um, would you hire the guy? Probably, because you likely wouldn't have heard about him doing this otherwise.

I'm sure she considered the impact this would have on her career. That she went ahead with it anyway suggests she was bothered more than just a little by what happened.

As for being a harmless incident. Hmmm. Let's see. Someone she once looked up to has now exposed himself to her as a pervert, put her into a very uncomfortable situation with serious sexual overtones, and likely ruined whatever confidence she had going into this production...people are traumatised by less.

Um, would you hire the guy? Probably, because you likely wouldn't have heard about him doing this otherwise.

I'm sure she considered the impact this would have on her career. That she went ahead with it anyway suggests she was bothered more than just a little by what happened.

As for being a harmless incident. Hmmm. Let's see. Someone she once looked up to has now exposed himself to her as a pervert, put her into a very uncomfortable situation with serious sexual overtones, and likely ruined whatever confidence she had going into this production...people are traumatised by less.

Rather than the legal system being tied up, a firm slap to the chops is what was called for in this situation. Society should not have to pay for an uncomfortable but decidedly personal situation.

Um, would you hire the guy? Probably, because you likely wouldn't have heard about him doing this otherwise.

I'm sure she considered the impact this would have on her career. That she went ahead with it anyway suggests she was bothered more than just a little by what happened.

As for being a harmless incident. Hmmm. Let's see. Someone she once looked up to has now exposed himself to her as a pervert, put her into a very uncomfortable situation with serious sexual overtones, and likely ruined whatever confidence she had going into this production...people are traumatised by less.
a PERVERT!!

all he did was put her over his knee. he didnt fondle her, he didnt even take her pants down (which would have been enough to call the cops).

yes he was WRONG. but really he was wrong in the same way that a man who grabs an unwilling woman in an passionate embrace is wrong. he deserved a slap in the face and a stern talking to by the management. if it turned out that he has a history of this kind of thing ( and he probably does) then the management needs to take action to prevent sexual harassment. if its a one time thing he needs to be told to knock it off and she needs to toughen up.

a PERVERT!!

all he did was put her over his knee. he didnt fondle her, he didnt even take her pants down (which would have been enough to call the cops).

yes he was WRONG. but really he was wrong in the same way that a man who grabs an unwilling woman in an passionate embrace is wrong. he deserved a slap in the face and a stern talking to by the management. if it turned out that he has a history of this kind of thing ( and he probably does) then the management needs to take action to prevent sexual harassment. if its a one time thing he needs to be told to knock it off and she needs to toughen up.


What he did was sexual harassment, which warrants reporting it to the police. She does not need to toughen up. He needs to REMAIN PROFESSIONAL AT ALL TIMES.

you could always google the name on an image search....
Give me a bit of credit... that's the first thing I did.

What he did was assault. And no one has to be willing to tolerate any measure of assault.

What he did was sexual harassment, which warrants reporting it to the police. She does not need to toughen up. He needs to REMAIN PROFESSIONAL AT ALL TIMES.
sexual harassment is a pattern of behavior or an incident that involves some sort of coercion--as in if he threatened to get her fired if she didnt comply or didnt keep quiet about it or if he promised her a better job if she cooperated.

it was a very unpleasant incident but not everything that CAN be taken to the police SHOULD be taken to the police. this is one of them.

What he did was sexual harassment, which warrants reporting it to the police. She does not need to toughen up. He needs to REMAIN PROFESSIONAL AT ALL TIMES.

As a former person of the theater, I find it laughable that a thespian would be expected to remain professional at all times.

How about she slap the old goat across the kisser and tell him that if he ever touches her again, she'll cut his balls off? That is the appropriate response, and it saves everyone time, money and heartache.

<sigh>

I'm a pretty liberal guy (I better be...I'm gayer than a tree full of monkeys), but there is something missing here.

Yes, he is a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. Yes, what he did was wrong. But where was that little spot in the middle where the spanker and the spankee attempt to settle this without wasting time and money within the legal system?

Is this criminal assault? Not hardly. Does he deserve some measure of a stern talking to, or maybe a pop in the snoot? Yes. He made a mistake and was not given the opportunity to make proper restitution, and there are just too many situations where we all fail to take personal responsibility for ourselves and go running to the nearest authority figure without thinking for a moment what the consequences are.

Yes, technically you are all right. The old duffer assaulted her, but I really have a hard time believing that the young lady (49 years younger than the spanker) couldn't simply have refused to be spanked, or eluded his efforts.

Traumatised? That's balderdash. I was spanked plenty as a kid, and no permanent damage was done. We are talking about an adult female here who supposedly has her mental faculties and wits about her.

We are not supposed to be shrinking violets in this world, kids. Maybe I'm just a touch old-fashioned, but I would have applauded her for smacking creepy in the snoot and being done with it, while reminding him that she now knew what sort of slimy codger he was.

What he did was assault. And no one has to be willing to tolerate any measure of assault.

Then don't tolerate it. Going to the authorities doesn't make it not have happened. The legal system is cumbersome, expensive and it needs to be available for more serious cases. Smack the old fart, publicly ridicule him, and write and entry in your diary.

Yes, there are cases when one cannot take care of things oneself. This is not one of them.

People are not the fragile things many of us would like to think. People have persevered and shone through much greater adversity than getting smacked on the butt by an elderly gentleman. A legal case causes such things to drag on and on, and will probalby be more of a cause for long term trauma than this admittedly creepy tussle ever was.

Things that can be handled by oneself should be. It saves everyone, including the victim, much trouble.

How hard did he spank? I mean was it just a slap on the cheek? Did he grab and squeeze? Or did he take her over his knee and gave her some hard spanking?

dammit, now I'm horny.

Indeed. Before she was unwillingly brought into the geezers spanking fetish she was there to practice the lost art of covering giant birdcages with sheets.
then again... they didn't mention the title of the play... maybe that was a scene later on and he needed to "Pratice" :D

Just for arguments sake, for all you who think it is more appropriate for the spankee to of handled it herself; let's imagine she has already been sexually assaulted at some point. And, as consequence she is a bit more "sensitive" than the average "pretty girl" Then, let's imagine that her natural reaction to having her physical "space" violated this way is to slam a long sharp knife into the old cogers chest. Situation handled and no police had to get involved, no overtaxed citizen had to ante up a penny for a "harrassment" charge.

Just for arguments sake, for all you who think it is more appropriate for the spankee to of handled it herself; let's imagine she has already been sexually assaulted at some point. And, as consequence she is a bit more "sensitive" than the average "pretty girl" Then, let's imagine that her natural reaction to having her physical "space" violated this way is to slam a long sharp knife into the old cogers chest. Situation handled and no police had to get involved, no overtaxed citizen had to ante up a penny for a "harrassment" charge.

And imagine that pink dragons gave free rides to all that asked.

Then don't tolerate it. Going to the authorities doesn't make it not have happened. The legal system is cumbersome, expensive and it needs to be available for more serious cases. Smack the old fart, publicly ridicule him, and write and entry in your diary.

Yes, there are cases when one cannot take care of things oneself. This is not one of them.

People are not the fragile things many of us would like to think. People have persevered and shone through much greater adversity than getting smacked on the butt by an elderly gentleman. A legal case causes such things to drag on and on, and will probalby be more of a cause for long term trauma than this admittedly creepy tussle ever was.

Things that can be handled by oneself should be. It saves everyone, including the victim, much trouble.

So if someone grabs you, positions you and hits you because it turns that person on...the police shouldnt be involved. Despite this act being obviously against the law.

While it is no doubt true that "People have persevered and shone through much greater adversity than getting smacked on the butt by an elderly gentleman." it is also true that people have persevered and shone through much greater adversity than getting a viscious beating and getting shot.
I think that considering this as a sort of standard for involving authorities is ill advised at best.

THis bit from the report:
70-year-old Frank Harrison, a former area chairman of the Scouts association
Is anyone that surprised a Scout Master did something like this? I mean, really.
The only thing that surprised me was that he did it to a girl and not a boy.

(reminded of the bit in 'Family Guy' where Brian grabs Peter's balls and Chris says, "That's how my scout leader shakes hands!")



Ah, but were the thespians masticating at the time? Mmmmm...masticating thespians...
Surely, being thespians, they would have been gesticulating furiously in front of a crowd, not masticating?

ah yeah. A 70 year old man is going to be strong enough to grab a 21 year woman against her will, place her on his lap, and assault her. All against her will.
BULLSHIT

Argh. To several of you:

1. It is absurd to assert that because she was younger than him, she obviously could have prevented the spanking and therefore wanted it. This is ridiculous. First, 70 is not nearly so old that a person can't be physically able. I have certainly met men in their 70s who could easily overpower me, and I'm in my 20s. Second, I don't care how strong you are, if someone unexpectedly grabs you and you don't have any particular training in self-defense, it's not necessarily incredibly easy to escape. Third, if someone you had thought of as a nice, reasonable person unexpectedly grabs you, you're likely to assume they're just trying to give you a hug or something, and while you might find that uncomfortable, you probably won't assume that anything much creepier is going to happen and are thus unlikely to struggle. Unless he announced that he was about to put her over his knee and she said "Sure!" it is simply ridiculous to assume that she in any way welcomed being spanked.

2. It is only slightly less absurd to assert that she should have just "sucked it up." I'm aware that some people would have no problem just giving the guy a good slap and laughing it off, but it's foolish and naive to assume that what works for some people must work for everyone. When a client I was working with a few years ago sexually harrassed me, it scared and upset me to the point where I ended up quitting my job. I have no doubt many people could have dealt with it - heck, I have no doubt there exist a few people who might like being ogled, randomly touched, and asked things like, "I bet you're the kind of girl who likes it up the ass, aren't you? I bet you'd like it if somebody just bent you over this desk right now, huh?" by a near-stranger 20 years their elder. But I wasn't one of those people, and I strongly object to any suggestion that that somehow makes me inferior or weak. No one should have to deal with sexual harrassment or assault, and the fact that some people don't put up with things they don't have to put up with isn't particularly reasonable grounds for criticism. If you would have done things differently in her place, good for you, but her decision was perfectly valid and (to me, anyway) perfectly understandable.

3. Anyone comparing being spanked as a child by one's parents to being spanked as an unwilling adult by a creepy guy 40+ years your elder? Come ON. If you don't see a difference there, I don't even know how to explain it to you.

Argh. To several of you:

1. It is absurd to assert that because she was younger than him, she obviously could have prevented the spanking and therefore wanted it. This is ridiculous. First, 70 is not nearly so old that a person can't be physically able. I have certainly met men in their 70s who could easily overpower me, and I'm in my 20s.
I can attest to that. My trainer back in NZ is 68 (69 this year), had stomach cancer a few years back where they were forced to cut a big chunk out, weighs 85 kgs (which is what? 180/190 pounds?) and can bench press 160kg (350 pounds).
I doubt many of you people going on about how this 21 yr woman could have easily pushed the 70 yr old away could do much against my trainer.


Obviously this guy is no where near the same league as my trainer (he was a scout master for God's sake!), but it still shows up most poster's reinforced perceptions of old ppl as being weak, feeble and incapable of doing anything.


While on the topic of old people, one of the strongest men I've met was a short Maori guy who was 58 yr old and could bench press over 200kg (450 pounds). He had only joined the gym recently, havig been laid off from his labouring job and didn't want to sit round and turn to flab.
Your strength only fades if you let it.

He could learn a few things from Pat Robertson then.

<sigh>

I'm a pretty liberal guy (I better be...I'm gayer than a tree full of monkeys), but there is something missing here.

Im happier for you than a sissy on a troop train. So what? How does your sexuality have any bearing on this?

Yes, he is a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. Yes, what he did was wrong. But where was that little spot in the middle where the spanker and the spankee attempt to settle this without wasting time and money within the legal system?

He broke a law, she reported it. It's what the legal system is there for.


Is this criminal assault? Not hardly.

Again that is why judges exist. To decide this very thing and then to mete out fair punishment
Does he deserve some measure of a stern talking to, or maybe a pop in the snoot? Yes. He made a mistake and was not given the opportunity to make proper restitution, and there are just too many situations where we all fail to take personal responsibility for ourselves and go running to the nearest authority figure without thinking for a moment what the consequences are.

What actions did she not take responsibility for? It seems to me the old perv was the one who didnt think what the consequences of his actions were, and not the young lady.

Yes, technically you are all right. The old duffer assaulted her, but I really have a hard time believing that the young lady (49 years younger than the spanker) couldn't simply have refused to be spanked, or eluded his efforts.


I suppose nobody can be raped either because you cant thread a moving needle? Shame on you for blaming the victim for not stopping the perpetrator of a crime.

Traumatised? That's balderdash. I was spanked plenty as a kid, and no permanent damage was done. We are talking about an adult female here who supposedly has her mental faculties and wits about her.

We are also talking about an adult male who had his mental faculties and wits about him.

We are not supposed to be shrinking violets in this world, kids. Maybe I'm just a touch old-fashioned, but I would have applauded her for smacking creepy in the snoot and being done with it, while reminding him that she now knew what sort of slimy codger he was.



We are not supposed to take the law into our own hands or escalate violence. We have a set of laws and a justice system. Use them. Even if it is 70 year olds who break the law.

We are not supposed to take the law into our own hands or escalate violence. We have a set of laws and a justice system. Use them. Even if it is 70 year olds who break the law.

<sigh>

I knew my answer would be misunderstood. I acknowledge that I was wrong.

Think on this, every day you and everybody else violates the laws of your state, municipality, and even nation without being aware of it. Usually in minor ways. If we reported every crime that occurred we would shortly have a court system (already in desperate straits) fully gridlocked.

This 70 year old guy grew up in an era where men (whether for good or ill) imposed their authority upon women in ways that would be anaethema today. I have seen no indication that this old guy had a criminal record before this.

He certainly displayed a horrible lack of judgement. This was a place where the 21 year old girl had a choice. She submitted to the spanking when she could have simply just refused. I do not know her history, but neither does anyone else here.

In a saner time, the girl would have said "no" and made it plain to him that it was not acceptable. Instead, now we have a situation where a person might possibly get a criminal record all over something, frankly, as trivial as this.

<sigh> No, the girl is not at fault for seeking resolution and she is the one who is in the right here, but it sure doesn't feel right that we as a society are creating a class of "victims" incapable of defending themselves.

I feel very old, right now.