NationStates Jolt Archive


Want to become a felon in Washington State? Just play online poker!

Minoriteeburg
31-05-2006, 17:07
this is definitely my big WTF story of the day.

is online gambling so bad that it should be considered a felony, or does Washington have some crazy gambling rules that i dont know about?

I dont gamble myself but I believe it should be legal everywhere.


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Washington State Makes It a Felony to Play Poker Online


by I. Rose
As of June 7, it is now a felony in the state of Washington to play poker on the Internet.

The bill, S.S.B. No. 6613, has stirred up great anxiety in poker forums. Many feel, correctly, that they have been blind-sided. I searched the databases of Washington newspapers and could find almost nothing written about the law as it was making its way through the Legislature. In fact, when the Seattle Times published an article about bills to make Internet gambling a crime, it only mentioned proposals pending in Congress.

Now, players are worried that they might get arrested. Some are trying to organize political committees to get the new law changed.

In the real world, the new law will make little difference. In fact, the Washington State Gambling Commission has taken the official position that the bill merely "clarifies" existing law:

Although Internet gambling has never been an authorized activity in Washington, this law was passed to make it very clear that Internet gambling is illegal in Washington. This includes gambling on the Internet, operating an Internet gambling site, or facilitating Internet gambling in any way.
Is the Commission right, that being a mere bettor has always been illegal in Washington? Yes - at least to some forms of gambling.

Prior to being amended by S.S.B. No. 6613, the law read:

Whoever knowingly transmits or receives gambling information by telephone, telegraph, radio, semaphore or similar means, or knowingly installs or maintains equipment for the transmission or receipt of gambling information shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor...
This made betting by phone with a bookie a crime. But it is questionable whether playing poker on the Internet fell under this law.

Other Washington statutes make it a crime to participate in any form of gambling that is not authorized by the state or a pure social game. But there is at least some doubt as to whether these apply to the Internet at all, let alone to a game where the operator and all of the other players are in foreign states.

rest of story here (http://www.rgtonline.com/Article.cfm?ArticleId=64810&CategoryName=Gaming%20Strategies)
Khadgar
31-05-2006, 17:12
Indiana recently made it a felony to set off fireworks if you don't own the property where you're doing it.

A FELONY! For a firecracker.
Intangelon
31-05-2006, 17:17
Sorry, I don't see the need for outrage. This is a states' rights issue, isn't it?

Besides that, how the hell are they going to enforce it? My home state has a long and rich tradition of drafting laws that cannot be adequately enforced. Seems to me the state must be low on funds (again) and is looking for new ways to surprise folks with laws that will add to Olympia's coffers. If Washington could get away with not telling folks that speeding fines had tripled, they would.

Proof positive that no matter where you go, something is fucked up enough about it to make you gnash your teeth in rage every so often. I still love my home on Puget Sound, but the lawmakers there can make you nuts.
Minoriteeburg
31-05-2006, 17:18
Indiana recently made it a felony to set off fireworks if you don't own the property where you're doing it.

A FELONY! For a firecracker.


yeah in PA you cant have any that launch, you can have sparklers, tanks, and the dumb stuff, but no rockets
Intangelon
31-05-2006, 17:20
Indiana recently made it a felony to set off fireworks if you don't own the property where you're doing it.

A FELONY! For a firecracker.
Well, I agree it shouldn't be a felony, but dammit, it isn't even June yet and the little yard apes of Bismarck who live in my blovk of flats are alreay blowing shit up in the courtyard. I fucking LOATHE Independence day for that reason and that reason alone. I'd love it again if we could somehow enforce restrictions that banned the celebratory explosives for all but the week surrounding the 4th of July. I'm sick to the teeth of the noise and the resultant garbage left everywhere.

CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELVES and LIGHT 'EM OFF WHEN THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS AREN'T ASLEEP!

[/old fart rant at 35]
Xandabia
31-05-2006, 17:21
what about if you use a lap top?
Minoriteeburg
31-05-2006, 17:21
Well, I agree it shouldn't be a felony, but dammit, it isn't even June yet and the little yard apes of Bismarck who live in my blovk of flats are alreay blowing shit up in the courtyard. I fucking LOATHE Independence day for that reason and that reason alone. I'd love it again if we could somehow enforce restrictions that banned the celebratory explosives for all but the week surrounding the 4th of July. I'm sick to the teeth of the noise and the resultant garbage left everywhere.

CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELVES and LIGHT 'EM OFF WHEN THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS AREN'T ASLEEP!

[/old fart rant at 35]


damn you would have hated me about 10 years ago (i was that kid who launched them at night in the park keeping people up and running when the cops showed up)
Intangelon
31-05-2006, 17:23
damn you would have hated me about 10 years ago (i was that kid who launched them at night in the park keeping people up and running when the cops showed up)
Nope. I wouldn't have wasted time with hate. Ten years ago, I'd have used my car and adult status to buy a revenge salvo at the local Indian Reservation and come after your ass. I've mellowed since then.:D
Minoriteeburg
31-05-2006, 17:27
Nope. I wouldn't have wasted time with hate. Ten years ago, I'd have used my car and adult status to buy a revenge salvo at the local Indian Reservation and come after your ass. I've mellowed since then.:D


well i suppose its a good thing you mellowed out then