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Holy crap! I had never thought that a knife would make a good defensive weapon, however this marine thought otherwise. :eek: In this case, I beleive it is SAFE to say...

Marine/knife > gun/untrained criminals

Did I mention there were FIVE people attempting to rob the marine? Hardcore, man.


www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=80405

Former Marine Foils Armed Robbery

Reported By: Elaine Reyes
Web Editor: Michael King
Last Modified: 5/30/2006 8:52:21 AM

Another one of the alleged assailants is in critical condition.

Investigators are calling the case one of self-defense. They say no charges will be filed against the victim in the case.

Police say they have been talking to three of the suspects, trying to find out what happened.

Atlanta police say around 11 p.m., the victim -- a former U.S. Marine -- was walking home from work at Jock’s and Jill’s in Midtown. He says that when he got to 4th Street and Penn Avenue, five people jumped out of a Cadillac with guns. He says he kicked the guns out of their hands, and fought back with his very own pocket knife.

Police say that two of the suspects were armed -- one with a handgun, the other with a shotgun.

Investigators say two of the suspects got stabbed. They all took off and drove themselves to Atlanta Medical Center. One suspect died, a second one is listed in critical condition. The remaining three suspects were taken into police custody.

“These are the individuals we have been looking for, for the past two nights,” said Atlanta police Detective Danny Stephens. “They’ve were riding around in this area. They were actually robbing people. There’s actually been a lookout for these individuals, and tonight, we caught up with them.”

The older sister of one of the three people police have been talking to said she had been warning her brother about running with the wrong crowd.

“I’m really disturbed by this,” she said. “We’re always telling my brother that he needs to straighten up, and get it together and not run with the wrong crowd.” Yeah, blame the "crowd".

No charges against the victim, but no word as of yet to what charges the suspects will face.

Police have not released the names of the suspects yet.



All in all, I think this turned out okay.








www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/0530marine.html


Former Marine kills would-be robber
3 men, one woman attack waiter walking in Midtown

By BILL MONTGOMERY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/30/06

A pack of would-be robbers including, a pregnant 17-year-old, figured a Midtown waiter walking to his girlfriend's house Monday night would be an easy mark, according to police.

But, in Thomas Autry, 36, the bandits picked the wrong victim, said Atlanta police homicide Detective Danny Stephens. The former Marine, cornered by his pursuers on Penn Avenue at 4th Street, fought back with a pocket knife in a deadly melee that left the young woman dead and a man in his late teens seriously injured at a hospital.

Autry suffered minor injuries. The identity of the suspects, who Stephens said are believed to be linked to "a lot" of pedestrian robberies in Midtown and Virginia-Highland, was not released. The three surviving attackers face aggravated assault and robbery charges, police said.

Autry will not be charged, Stephens said. "It was a clear case of self defense."

Stephens said Autry had left his job at the Jocks & Jills restaurant in Midtown and was walking along Penn Avenue when a blue Cadillac pulled alongside and three men, one armed with a shotgun, and the woman jumped from the car.

"This group had robbed two men on Piedmont earlier Monday night, taking a video camera and a cellphone," Stephens said.

"Autry takes off running, and they chase him. During the chase, Autry's trying to get into his backpack to get a pocket knife, which slows him down," Stephens said.

During the chase, Autry repeatedly yelled "fire, fire," which Stephens said attracted nearby residents' attention.

Grabbing the knife from his backpack, Autry managed to kick the shotgun from the man's hands and stabbed the woman in the chest, fatally wounding her. Stephens said. In the melee, Autry also stabbed one of the male suspects. Another suspect attempted to shoot Autry with a .380 pistol, which misfired, Stephens said.

The suspects ran back to the Cadillac and drove to Atlanta Medical Center, where police arrested them. The young woman, "about two weeks pregnant," was pronounced dead at the hospital, Stephens said. The wounded suspect is in critical condition.

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Well that explains why he was handy with a knife, don't expect average Joe to be quite so good.

Another suspect attempted to shoot Autry with a .380 pistol, which misfired

Ahh....so he got lucky, the gun misfired.

Sweet. Goes to show once a Marine, always a Marine.

During the chase, Autry repeatedly yelled "fire, fire," which Stephens said attracted nearby residents' attention.
What's really sad is that this is much more likely to get help than calling out the fact you're getting robbed or yelling rape.

The fact that someone died in this case* isn't going to convince any knife-haters.

*And the fact that you think this was a good thing.

The fact that someone died in this case* isn't going to convince any knife-haters.

*And the fact that you think this was a good thing.
Not to mention the time I got jumped by 4 dudes one with a knife.

I spent three weeks in the hospital and a scar on my back as well as on my side (from where they put the tube in to re-inflate my lungs)

Well they say you shouldnt bring a knife to a gunfight, but damn...I am glad they got what they deserve.

Sweet. Goes to show once a Marine, always a Marine.

Yeah. Bayonet charge!


Well that explains why he was handy with a knife, don't expect average Joe to be quite so good.



Ahh....so he got lucky, the gun misfired.

There aren't many good .380 pistols out there. For everyone else though there is CCW :D

you can do a lot of damage with a knife, most often more damage than a g

knife will always be my weapon of choice

marines eh when they're not killing innocent civilians in Iraq they're killing civilians somewhere else

marines eh when they're not killing innocent civilians in Iraq they're killing civilians somewhere else

But these weren't so innocent. Isn't it wonderful to stereotype all based on the actions of a few?

marines eh when they're not killing innocent civilians in Iraq they're killing civilians somewhere else

You left out the "innocent" part, mainly because they werent.

marines eh when they're not killing innocent civilians in Iraq they're killing civilians somewhere else
If they were attacked they have EVERY right to defend themselves

You do the crime, you do the time.
If my life was threatened like that, I would expect to be cleared of any possible charges if I retaliated in self-defense.

I saw, and participated in, some knife training when I was in Aikido.
Although the first thing you should do is run, if you can't, then it's good to have that training.
Yes, a knife is a very, very dangerous weapon with someone who knows how to use it properly.

With one fairly simple thing I learned, I could have you going to protect your neck and gut you before you knew what was happening.
I take little pride in that fact... it's just something that I know, which I hope I never have to use.

One Mind
Any weapon

I think in true Nation states fashion we should send him a sharpening stone.

:D

marines eh when they're not killing innocent civilians in Iraq they're killing civilians somewhere else


*realizes he'll be the 4th to respond to quote*

i dunno what more can be said, but the marine did nothing wrong, there is never anything wrong with defending yourself.

marines eh when they're not killing innocent civilians in Iraq they're killing civilians somewhere else

Yep, because chasing down a man trying to avoid being robbed at gunpoint is INNOCENCE at it's finest.

:mad:

:headbang:

:rolleyes:

*realizes he'll be the 4th to respond to quote*

i dunno what more can be said, but the marine did nothing wrong, there is never anything wrong with defending yourself.

If that guy would have had a gun....

Things would be much different. I imagine now he will be applying for a CCW sometime soon.

You do the crime, you do the time.
If my life was threatened like that, I would expect to be cleared of any possible charges if I retaliated in self-defense.

I saw, and participated in, some knife training when I was in Aikido.
Although the first thing you should do is run, if you can't, then it's good to have that training.
Yes, a knife is a very, very dangerous weapon with someone who knows how to use it properly.

With one fairly simple thing I learned, I could have you going to protect your neck and gut you before you knew what was happening.
I take little pride in that fact... it's just something that I know, which I hope I never have to use.
I have had to use it ... if another of the guys did not get me in the back ...

Probably saved my life though

I sorta feel sorry for the girl, but she was stupid enough to run around attacking people.....

I am impressed. I was not aware they teach knife-fighting in the Marines?

I sorta feel sorry for the girl, but she was stupid enough to run around attacking people.....

I am impressed. I was not aware they teach knife-fighting in the Marines?

Yeah, they teach knife fighting, hand to hand combat, bayonet training, etc. Too much to list.

And he really did this with a pocket knife? That's nothing short of amazing.

Well that explains why he was handy with a knife, don't expect average Joe to be quite so good.



Ahh....so he got lucky, the gun misfired.
My name's Joe and I'm pretty good with a knife. Of course now you'll say I'm not average.

Yeah. Bayonet charge!




There aren't many good .380 pistols out there. For everyone else though there is CCW :D


Its likely the pistol was stolen and probably always brandished, but never cleaned.

I like to see when a group of predators gets hit back hard.

Knives are good defensive weapons, but hard to use effectively. Guns are very easy to use, point and shoot! :mp5:.... :)

That must have been something to see- the gang of violent thugs and thugess, all pumped up-outnumbering their victim and they had guns-the guy runs and they chase-
All of a sudden guns arent working and they are getting kicked away. Scumbags are bleeding and retreating.

It looks like the intended victim in this story single handedly eliminated a little crime wave.

He should get a medal.

I sorta feel sorry for the girl, but she was stupid enough to run around attacking people.....

I am impressed. I was not aware they teach knife-fighting in the Marines?

Yup. Hand to hand combat training in the US Marines is quite vigorous and prioritized. Even in other service branches in many other countries.

In fact, there were some Scottish troops way back in Iraq that killed Iraqi soldiers with bayonets during the invasion. Crazy Scots.

Knives are good defensive weapons, but hard to use effectively. Guns are very easy to use, point and shoot! :mp5:.... :)

Sometimes guns can be complicated though (jams, reloading, coocking, etc.). A knife you just whip out and start slashing and jabbing in a rush of adrenaline. You can do a bit of damage.

Stupid 17yr old girl. Unfortunate that she died.. But that's what you get when you jump on a marine.