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Does anyone find it annoying that the Foreigners in Mexico made a Mexican National Anthem based off of Americas?
They act like they are a part of the US, but they aren't. They have to be legalized, and where did the immigration go wrong?
Bush is now sending thousands of troops into this godforsaken desert to "protect america"
I guess that means we're going to have to grab our escape plan.:gundge:

Who gives a shit. It's just the national anthem in spanish.

I know, but they are taking our song of freedom and putting it in their country. I don't mean to sound judgemental but, shouldn't they join the country?

How dare those damn wetbacks insult our nation by singing it's praises in their own language?!?! Let's lynch 'em!

Does anyone find it annoying that the Foreigners in Mexico made a Mexican National Anthem based off of Americas?

Really? This is news to me. And I always thought that the Mexican National Anthem had been composed in 1853, long before the US had a National Anthem.

I know, but they are taking our song of freedom and putting it in their country. I don't mean to sound judgemental but, shouldn't they join the country?
Okay? Spanish is a smooth language. If anything it makes the freedom flow more gently. Now if it were Russians, then that would eb another thing entirely because then our freedom would be rough and inaudable.

Really? This is news to me. And I always thought that the Mexican National Anthem had been composed in 1853, long before the US had a National Anthem.

OK, now, what I mean is that they are just changing the words.

OK, now, what I mean is that they are just changing the words.
To the Mexican National Anthem? No, they aren't.

To the US Anthem? A bunch of "artists" (and I use the term loosely) wrote a song called "Our Anthem" which uses parts of the Star Spangled Banner. That's totally different to what you're trying to say.

But the illegals are messing with our freedom! That's what the issue is. Think of the children.

Ok, but then don't you find it frustrating that instead of enforcing the laws of the Us, he is moving men to the borders?

Ok, but then don't you find it frustrating that instead of enforcing the laws of the Us, he is moving men to the borders?

technically speaking, securing our boarders is enforcing the laws of the United States...

After reading this topic I've decided we should begin the process of statehood for Mexico. Since apperently they're such great would-be USofAmericans and the only thing that seems to be holding them back is the fact that they aren't in the union.

After reading this topic I've decided we should begin the process of statehood for Mexico. Since apperently they're such great would-be USofAmericans and the only thing that seems to be holding them back is the fact that they aren't in the union.

perhaps, though what a task it would be, to turn this otherwise failed nation of poverty and corruption to even a standard unionized state... A task i feel this nation is not yet prepared to engage.

Persoanlly what makes me laugh is your antham (The US one) is based (I think you changed some of the words) on a song about a American loss of a fort.

Incidently, it was AMERICANS who sang the AMERICAN anthem in Spanish. Even George Bush let John Secada do it at his first Presidential Inauguration.

What's the big fuckin' deal, bitch?

Sing it in whatever language you like.

Obviously you don't speak English, either.

Well, about the Spanish version of the U.S. anthem, its just a little something called appropriation. There's nothing wrong with that, its just not a legit version of the anthem, thats all.

Really? This is news to me. And I always thought that the Mexican National Anthem had been composed in 1853, long before the US had a National Anthem.
Whoops. US national anthem composed during the siege of Fort McHenry in the middle of the War of 1812. If you're not from the US, I can forgive that. If you are...holy shpedoinkel.

EDIT: What's really sad is that in 17 posts, nobody else caught that.:(

I think we should start statehood for Mexico

Whoops. US national anthem composed during the siege of Fort McHenry in the middle of the War of 1812. If you're not from the US, I can forgive that. If you are...holy shpedoinkel.
Yup, but it didn't become the US National Anthem until much much later. The Mexican National Anthem was written expressely to become the National Anthem.

To Aust: They kept the fort. That's the point of the song.

Ok then, what is your favorite anthem foramerica

Whoops. US national anthem composed during the siege of Fort McHenry in the middle of the War of 1812. If you're not from the US, I can forgive that. If you are...holy shpedoinkel.

The Star Spangled Banner didn't officially become the national anthem until 1936.

It wasn't even a song at all until someone put the poem to the tune of a British tavern song in 1920.

Yup, but it didn't become the US National Anthem until much much later. The Mexican National Anthem was written expressely to become the National Anthem.

To Aust: They kept the fort. That's the point of the song.
Yes, but you said "composed", not "adopted" or "ratified" or whatever you do to make it all official-like. Sorry, that's nit-picky, but I'm a music prof.

I think we should start statehood for Mexico

Movement growing, yay.

After some wikipediaing, it looks like Mexico is like really huge. More than three times the size of Alaska. Maybe it should be two or three states..?

Hey, anyone here from Mexico? How would you like your nation partitioned after the US annexes it?

Yes, but you said "composed", not "adopted" or "ratified" or whatever you do to make it all official-like. Sorry, that's nit-picky, but I'm a music prof.

I'm a music teacher, too, and the music for our national anthem was "composed" in the 1600s, the words written down in the 1810s, and the two not brought together until the 1920s.

Mexico had its national anthem in place long before ours.

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Yes, but you said "composed", not "adopted" or "ratified" or whatever you do to make it all official-like. Sorry, that's nit-picky, but I'm a music prof.
Mmmh... I didn't know you had to be a music prof to be nit-picky! :D

Hey, anyone here from Mexico? How would you like your nation partitioned after the US annexes it?
32 states, following the current division. No less. The current Federal District would become State of Anahuac.

I'm a music teacher, too, and the music for our national anthem was "composed" in the 1600s, the words written down in the 1810s, and the two not brought together until the 1920s.

Mexico had its national anthem in place long before ours.
Yes, the tune was an English drinking song (pub anthem?:) ) long before it was a hymn to freedom. I always liked that about our anthem. If you take the words out and just sing syllables like a bunch of drunken sots in a tavern, you can hear the beery sway it has.

As for your counter-argument, I'll riposte with an oldie but a goodie:

Semantics.;)

(that's 2 smilies in one post. shoot me -- NO WAIT, not with another smi-- damn)

I have entirely too much time on my hands so I tried translating the Star Spangled Banner into Latin. If you know another language, go for it to annoy people. Doesn't have to be polished or anything.

sineris vexilla adsperga (Flag Sprinkled with Stars):
O videre potesne dic, luce aurorae mane,
quam tam superbe congrediti sunt micante extreme crepusculi?
cuius lati funes candidaque sinera, per periculam pugnam,
quam super moenia videmus, tam animose fluebant.
Et rutilus micans spiculi, irrumptenti ignes in aere,
dederunt testimonium per nocte nostram vexillam adesse.
O dic, adhucne sineris vexilla adsperga fluctat
super terram liberorum et domum fortiorum

I have entirely too much time on my hands so I tried translating the Star Spangled Banner into Latin. If you know another language, go for it to annoy people. Doesn't have to be polished or anything.

sineris vexilla adsperga (Flag Sprinkled with Stars):
O videre potesne dic, luce aurorae mane,
quam tam superbe congrediti sunt micante extreme crepusculi?
cuius lati funes candidaque sinera, per periculam pugnam,
quam super moenia videmus, tam animose fluebant.
Et rutilus micans spiculi, irrumptenti ignes in aere,
dederunt testimonium per nocte nostram vexillam adesse.
O dic, adhucne sineris vexilla adsperga fluctat
super terram liberorum et domum fortiorum
Brilliant! I'm going to write an arrangement using those lyrics. Many of the best coral works are in Latin, and this would be a challenge, as well as hilarious (I spit snot on my monitor twice while singing through it).

You guys do realize that aside from singing the words in Spanish, it isn't even just a translated version of the original. They changed enough of the words to change it's overall meaning.

Persoanlly what makes me laugh is your antham (The US one) is based (I think you changed some of the words) on a song about a American loss of a fort.
Incorrect, we never lost the Fort. Thats the whole fucking point of the song.

Whoops. US national anthem composed during the siege of Fort McHenry in the middle of the War of 1812. If you're not from the US, I can forgive that. If you are...holy shpedoinkel.

EDIT: What's really sad is that in 17 posts, nobody else caught that.:(

you should probably read it again, as no comparison of composition dates was made

I know, but they are taking our song of freedom and putting it in their country. I don't mean to sound judgemental but, shouldn't they join the country?


You're aware it's just a bastardized version of a British drinking song?

wait! you are all talking about the song of freedem and stuff like that. Well if you are all up on freedom then shouldent mexico get the freedom to take amaricas national anthem.....cos if they dont have that freedom then americas dream of freedom has failed because of themselves!:rolleyes:....yeah i cant spell!

Persoanlly what makes me laugh is your antham (The US one) is based (I think you changed some of the words) on a song about a American loss of a fort.

Even more hysterical is the fact that the tune of our national anthem is based on a drinking song from the UK!

silly americans. (and I am one!)

Does anyone find it annoying that the Foreigners in Mexico made a Mexican National Anthem based off of Americas?

have you stopped beating your wife yet?