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cyberpunk

NYCT
30-05-2006, 05:04
are any of you into cyberpunk here? are there any message boards out there that concern themselves with cyberpunk. Also do you think it's dead?
The Beautiful Darkness
30-05-2006, 05:08
Punks not dead.
Shes just gone to bed.
The Parkus Empire
30-05-2006, 05:11
You keep your damn hands off me, you CyberPunk (http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/borg2.gif), you!
The Gate Builders
30-05-2006, 05:15
I'm sorry to say... CyberPunk didn't pull through. Sixteen slugs from a 12-guage shotgun to the head at point-blank range.

I'm so sorry.
Cannot think of a name
30-05-2006, 05:15
I think that it hasn't so much died as folded into the tapestry.

I was kinda into it, I dug that tech noir feel of things. Not enough to help you in any way though.
NYCT
30-05-2006, 05:19
I'm sorry to say... Punk didn't pull through. Sixteen slugs from a 12-guage shotgun to the head at point-blank range.

I'm so sorry.

i was speaking more about neuromancer type technology noirish stuff.
The Nazz
30-05-2006, 05:20
I tend to think that literature and film follow certain patterns, and one of those is that literature tends to get darker as times get better--there seems to be a need to experience the darkness in some way, even if it's only vicarious. But when times get bad, no one wants to be entertained by the darkness--why read about a shitty world when you have to go out and live in it? Why see a film about inner city decay and the huge gap between the haves and have-nots when that's your life? Cyberpunk hit its peak, if I recall correctly, in the late 90s in the US.
Daistallia 2104
30-05-2006, 05:43
I tend to think that literature and film follow certain patterns, and one of those is that literature tends to get darker as times get better--there seems to be a need to experience the darkness in some way, even if it's only vicarious. But when times get bad, no one wants to be entertained by the darkness--why read about a shitty world when you have to go out and live in it? Why see a film about inner city decay and the huge gap between the haves and have-nots when that's your life? Cyberpunk hit its peak, if I recall correctly, in the late 90s in the US.

Bruce Sterling's Islands in the Net was published in 1988 and Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash in 1991. Which one you consider to be the first major post-CP work is up for debate. Eitherway, post-CP had already arrived by the late 90s.
The Nazz
30-05-2006, 05:49
Bruce Sterling's Islands in the Net was published in 1988 and Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash in 1991. Which one you consider to be the first major post-CP work is up for debate. Eitherway, post-CP had already arrived by the late 90s.I have to admit that my experience with cyberpunk is slight--I've read a bit of the major work, but haven't studied it in depth. It's possible that I'm thinking about stuff that's not in the cyberpunk realm too. I will submit to you as an expert in this.
JuNii
30-05-2006, 05:52
are any of you into cyberpunk here? are there any message boards out there that concern themselves with cyberpunk. Also do you think it's dead?
the RPG? sometime we play it.
JuNii
30-05-2006, 05:53
I have to admit that my experience with cyberpunk is slight--I've read a bit of the major work, but haven't studied it in depth. It's possible that I'm thinking about stuff that's not in the cyberpunk realm too. I will submit to you as an expert in this.
oh, did you read Snow Crash? it's a good read.

there was another one... Hot (Hard) wired is also good.
Cannot think of a name
30-05-2006, 05:58
Bladerunner was in 1982 and Nueromancer, which is what I've always understood to be the matches for the genre. For the begining of the peak, though, I'd probably go with Wild Palms in 1993. This is where the genre meets world, so to speak. When there is enough traction on it to do a mini-series on television. I was playing cyberpunk games in high school, but as a commodity I don't think it really hit its peak until the early nineties.
Cannot think of a name
30-05-2006, 06:00
oh, did you read Snow Crash? it's a good read.

there was another one... Hot (Hard) wired is also good.
I'll say, to back this up Nazz, that I have a friend in the same field as you (that you kinda know) that loves this book (Snow Crash).
The Nazz
30-05-2006, 06:12
I'll say, to back this up Nazz, that I have a friend in the same field as you (that you kinda know) that loves this book (Snow Crash).
I'll check it out.
Insert Quip Here
30-05-2006, 06:41
I'll say, to back this up Nazz, that I have a friend in the same field as you (that you kinda know) that loves this book (Snow Crash).
Meh, it felt like a Gibson ripoff to me. "Diamond Age" was much more original ;) Also don't forget the Douglas Adams of CP. Rudy Rucker :cool:
NYCT
30-05-2006, 14:20
well the matrix is cyberpunk too.
Potarius
30-05-2006, 14:22
well the matrix is cyberpunk too.

Not as much as Final Fantasy VII.
Bodies Without Organs
30-05-2006, 14:29
Meh, it felt like a Gibson ripoff to me.

Considering Snow Crash to be a rip off of Gibson, who was essentially producing ripoffs of Chandler, is like considering PG Wodehouse to be a rip off of Oscar Wilde. DId you miss the entire fact that Snow Crash was tongue in cheek and based almost entirely on jokes? Being able to detect the humour of Rucker is one thing, but I fail to see how the humour of Stephenson seems to have passed right over your head.
Solaris-X
30-05-2006, 14:31
Idk, I loved a snes game called shadowrun and it was cyberpunk, was pretty good also, sigh, nice memories lol.
Peepelonia
30-05-2006, 14:31
Shit I thought it was all roleplaying and that seems to be not being taken up as much by the youth anymore, and I guess us oldies have sorta grown out of it.
NYCT
30-05-2006, 14:49
well you guys should read neuromancer again.
Liberated New Ireland
30-05-2006, 14:54
System Shock STILL doesn't work on my compy. :(
It was the best shooter ever... *sniff*
NYCT
31-05-2006, 04:47
anyone hear read neuromancer?
Cannot think of a name
31-05-2006, 04:51
anyone hear read neuromancer?
I think that most the people posting have.
NYCT
31-05-2006, 04:59
well i believe that neuromancer is the quintessence of cyberpunk.
Cannot think of a name
31-05-2006, 05:02
well i believe that neuromancer is the quintessence of cyberpunk.
Way to go out on a limb.
Peisandros
31-05-2006, 05:22
Cyberpunk!?!?!
Eeeeek!


*hides*
Daistallia 2104
31-05-2006, 05:44
anyone hear read neuromancer?

A better question would be have you read this (http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/cpunk.htm)? ;)