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Ok, I know this is probably going to spiral into an out of control flame war, but against my better judgement, here I go:

Interracial couples where the male is black and the female is white are much more common than vice versa. In fact, highly educated black men are 15 times more likely to marry highly educated white women than they are to marry highly educated black women, even though there are more highly educated black women than highly educated black men. Also, even at my school 9 out of 10 times in an interracial couple the male is black and the female is white. Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin. I'm not suggesting that interracial marriages ought to be banned, since I'm a social libertarian at heart, what I'm doing is exploring the trends of interracial marriages and the reasons why. Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

My favorite ice cream is chocolate by the way, not vanilla. Ironic isn't it?

Meh, usually when there's an asian/white couple the girl is asian and the guy is white...

I also disagree with your generalizations.

Gets out popcorn and waits and watches.

Meh, usually when there's an asian/white couple the girl is asian and the guy is white...

I also disagree with your generalizations.
I would concur.

I find the OP's generalisations misguided.

I want to know where the numbers come from.

And this scientific measurement of male black/female white vs. male black/female black vs. male white/female black marriages comes from....


And what relevance does this have, anywho?

My favorite ice cream is chocolate by the way, not vanilla. Ironic isn't it?

I like chocolate and vanilla swirl. Which is not ironic at all...

*snip*
Well, I am gay, and slightly on the more feminine side, and none of the traits you suggest exist in blacks are in plain sight to me. I personally find germanic Europeans to fullfil the criteria more often than not. I am not attracted to non-whites in any event.

And this scientific measurement of male black/female white vs. male black/female black vs. male white/female black marriages comes from....


And what relevance does this have, anywho?


Possibly useful information for white women wishing to know what best tactics to employ in order to lure and marry educated black men? If the numbers are true they had better get themselves enrolled in a university?

Who cares?

Gets out popcorn and waits and watches.
yep this will be a long discussion..

Who cares?

Seconded. Really, who gives a rat's ass who marries whom? And to then bring "race" into it? Please...

Sounds like all your going to get are acusations of bigotry. But I've always wondered the same thing---Why are there more black male-white female couples? If you don't like the explanation given. What is your theory?

yep this will be a long discussion..


Popcorn? Im taking bets of one cookie that the "R" word will be employed in the first 3 pages too.

Ok, I know this is probably going to spiral into an out of control flame war, but against my better judgement, here I go:

Interracial couples where the male is black and the female is white are much more common than vice versa. In fact, highly educated black men are 15 times more likely to marry highly educated white women than they are to marry highly educated black women, even though there are more highly educated black women than highly educated black men. Also, even at my school 9 out of 10 times in an interracial couple the male is black and the female is white. Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin. I'm not suggesting that interracial marriages ought to be banned, since I'm a social libertarian at heart, what I'm doing is exploring the trends of interracial marriages and the reasons why. Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

My favorite ice cream is chocolate by the way, not vanilla. Ironic isn't it?
Whatever gave you this conclusion?

Maybe the white women believe the myth about the black guy's penis size.

Eh I don't get it either, but if two people find true love, then who are we to judge and say that it's wrong?

:rolleyes:

Dude, how can you not like black features? Like how some black people have a wider bridge of the nose. They tend to look nicer than the 'sharp' pointy nose of caucasians. I also like the difference in colour of the back and palm of the hand of a very dark black person. And black skin tends to look more velvety than white skin, just more smoother and sleeker.

I got a reason for your claim though. The work place is still prejudiced against minorities. So if a black man succeeds in life then he is more likely to around white females than black females in the work place and socialising areas. The middle classes and above are still dominated by white populations. So it's simply a matter of association rather than anything else? I mean how many rich, intelligent white men do you see marrying women of ANY colour from the poorer areas of society?

Dude, how can you not like black features? Like how some black people have a wider bridge of the nose. They tend to look nicer than the 'sharp' pointy nose of caucasians. I also like the difference in colour of the back and palm of the hand of a very dark black person. And black skin tends to look more velvety than white skin, just more smoother and sleeker.

I, personally, am simply not attracted to them. *shrugs*

It doesn't make sense... surely it would be the other way round given the stereotypes.

*testimony from a black guy*

Me? I just don't like black girls. Never seemed attractive to me.

Weird, I always thought the big bum was a big attraction. Having said that, I've always had a HUGE arse in comparison to the rest of me. Maybe I have some black blood in me, who knows?

It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated. For instance, at the exact moment you said "why do so many black men marry white women?" a freak wormhole opened in the fabric of the space-time continuum and carried your words far far back in time across almost infinite reaches of space to a distant galaxy where strange and warlike beings were poised on the brink of frightful interstellar battle.
The two opposing leaders were meeting for the last time. A dreadful silence fell across the conference table as the commander of the Vl'Hurgs, resplendent in his black jewelled battle shorts, gazed levelly at the G'Gugvunt leader squatting opposite him in a cloud of green, sweet-smelling steam. As a million sleek and horribly beweaponed star cruisers poised to unleash electric death at his single word of command, the Vl'Hurg challenged his vile enemy to take back what it had said about his mother.
The creature stirred in its sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words "why do so many black men marry white women?" drifted across the conference table. Unfortunately, in the Vl'Hurg tongue this was the most dreadful insult imaginable, and there was nothing for it but to wage terrible war for centuries. Eventually the error was detected, but over two hundred and fifty thousand worlds, their peoples and cultures perished in the holocaust.
You have destroyed most of a small galaxy. Please pick your words with greater care.

You postulate the theory that white women would be more desireable to black men, but can't it be the other way around? Black men are hawt.

You pick YOUR words more carefully.

I sure told you.

I Lööööve them black chicks and I've had my share:D Hopefully, my gf, who's white, won't see this, but I find black skin to be a huge hotness-factor in itself... but then again, maybe I just have jungle fever or something...

Everybody comments on how pale I am... sometimes I think it would be nice to be a little darker!

*Gets out popcorn*

Bring on the white supremacists!

Gets out popcorn and waits and watches.
*sits down and munches loudly on Not bad's popcorn*

Everybody comments on how pale I am... sometimes I think it would be nice to be a little darker!
Nope. Naturally pale is uebersexy.

It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated. For instance, at the exact moment you said "why do so many black men marry white women?" a freak wormhole opened in the fabric of the space-time continuum and carried your words far far back in time across almost infinite reaches of space to a distant galaxy where strange and warlike beings were poised on the brink of frightful interstellar battle.
The two opposing leaders were meeting for the last time. A dreadful silence fell across the conference table as the commander of the Vl'Hurgs, resplendent in his black jewelled battle shorts, gazed levelly at the G'Gugvunt leader squatting opposite him in a cloud of green, sweet-smelling steam. As a million sleek and horribly beweaponed star cruisers poised to unleash electric death at his single word of command, the Vl'Hurg challenged his vile enemy to take back what it had said about his mother.
The creature stirred in its sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words "why do so many black men marry white women?" drifted across the conference table. Unfortunately, in the Vl'Hurg tongue this was the most dreadful insult imaginable, and there was nothing for it but to wage terrible war for centuries. Eventually the error was detected, but over two hundred and fifty thousand worlds, their peoples and cultures perished in the holocaust.
You have destroyed most of a small galaxy. Please pick your words with greater care.
I'll take that as a metaphor for the impending flame war.
*gazes in awe*

It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated. For instance, at the exact moment you said "why do so many black men marry white women?" a freak wormhole opened in the fabric of the space-time continuum and carried your words far far back in time across almost infinite reaches of space to a distant galaxy where strange and warlike beings were poised on the brink of frightful interstellar battle.
The two opposing leaders were meeting for the last time. A dreadful silence fell across the conference table as the commander of the Vl'Hurgs, resplendent in his black jewelled battle shorts, gazed levelly at the G'Gugvunt leader squatting opposite him in a cloud of green, sweet-smelling steam. As a million sleek and horribly beweaponed star cruisers poised to unleash electric death at his single word of command, the Vl'Hurg challenged his vile enemy to take back what it had said about his mother.
The creature stirred in its sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words "why do so many black men marry white women?" drifted across the conference table. Unfortunately, in the Vl'Hurg tongue this was the most dreadful insult imaginable, and there was nothing for it but to wage terrible war for centuries. Eventually the error was detected, but over two hundred and fifty thousand worlds, their peoples and cultures perished in the holocaust.
You have destroyed most of a small galaxy. Please pick your words with greater care.


loool :D


Most racial discussions and racism is lit by flame of inferriority complex compared to another race. I don't believe all people are equal but I certainly dont believe race makes them inferrior or superior either. The thing that makes someone superior to another is self confidance, it puts strenght behind your actions. ıt makes a man a man, and lack of it makes one a weakest type of gay. I certainly have no problem about gays if its in their private bedrooms by the way, but I certainly dont like weakness,obediance of a man to another like a woman in the public.

If you opened this thread because you feel less masculine than black man in your area I suggest you go bodybuild like hell, then go to beach and roast yourself under sun. You are ready for strong guy lover chicks! Or you can self pity till you become a gay slut.
If you dont then I wonder why it bothers you?

Nope. Naturally pale is uebersexy.
pale is sexy, I love goth babes mmm
but on the other hand a fine bronze skin with green eyes and pink lips is equally attractive...

oh God thank you for this variety of colors and textures of skin, thank you for sex, thank you for good drinks and food! Amin!

loool :D


Most racial discussions and racism is lit by flame of inferriority complex compared to another race.


Think the marine corp(not sure if it was them but US military anyway)has the right idea when confronted with racism.

Shove all the recruits in a windowless room and turn out the lights, then the recruits have got to hold up their right hand if they think they next to a black guy or left hand if they next to a white guy.

loool :D


Most racial discussions and racism is lit by flame of inferriority complex compared to another race. I don't believe all people are equal but I certainly dont believe race makes them inferrior or superior either. The thing that makes someone superior to another is self confidance, it puts strenght behind your actions. ıt makes a man a man, and lack of it makes one a weakest type of gay. I certainly have no problem about gays if its in their private bedrooms by the way, but I certainly dont like weakness,obediance of a man to another like a woman in the public.

If you opened this thread because you feel less masculine than black man in your area I suggest you go bodybuild like hell, then go to beach and roast yourself under sun. You are ready for strong guy lover chicks! Or you can self pity till you become a gay slut.
If you dont then I wonder why it bothers you?
Look, you're spoiling the view, so if you're not here to flame, kindly get the hell out and make room for the real show. Or sit down, shut up and join the audience.
*offers popcorn*

pale is sexy, I love goth babes mmm
but on the other hand a fine bronze skin with green eyes and pink lips is equally attractive...

oh God thank you for this variety of colors and textures of skin, thank you for sex, thank you for good drinks and food! Amin!
Mmmm...pale flesh, green eyes, black hair...delicious....
*closes eyes and shudders with pleasure. no, not that kind of pleasure!:p *

Mmmm...pale flesh, green eyes, black hair...delicious....

OMFG, are you trying to describe me? :eek:

OMFG, are you trying to describe me? :eek:
Not intentionally. Do you have green eyes? Your hair didn't look black from the pic you posted. Nor did you look terribly pale. Actually, there is someone who generally fits the description....
*runs to Google*

Not intentionally. Do you have green eyes? Your hair didn't look black from the pic you posted. Nor did you look terribly pale. Actually, there is someone who generally fits the description....
*runs to Google*

Yes, yes (but it had green streaks in it then).
Yes, I am pale...not white, but fairly close.

*awaits photo*

Yes, yes (but it had green streaks in it then).
Yes, I am pale...not white, but fairly close.

*awaits photo*
Oh, well....okay. I forgot to mention redheads. Those are good too. Oh, and the pic. It's amazing what a Google search for "grammar nazi" turns up (so what if she actually has dark brown eyes; kinda reminds me of Erica's sister, Rachel)....
http://www.makeoutclub.com/htdocs/profiles/images/girls/InkAndHeather.jpg

Oh, well....okay. I forgot to mention redheads. Those are good too. Oh, and the pic. It's amazing what a Google search for "grammar nazi" turns up (so what if she actually has dark brown eyes; kinda reminds me of Erica's sister, Rachel)....
http://www.makeoutclub.com/htdocs/profiles/images/girls/InkAndHeather.jpg

Oh, she doesn't do it for me.

Who's Erica?:confused:

Oh, she doesn't do it for me.

Who's Erica?:confused:
Yeah, but she's just an example. It's only a very small start. I could provide a picture of the sort of redhead I like, just to take up time hijacking this thread.:D
Erica is a friend IRL. Dont' know Rachel that well, but she intrigues me. She seems to be some sort of weird balance between Erica and myself.

Erica is a friend IRL. Dont' know Rachel that well, but she intrigues me. She seems to be some sort of weird balance between Erica and myself.

Bizzare. :)

Bizzare. :)
You don't know Erica.:D

Look, you're spoiling the view, so if you're not here to flame, kindly get the hell out and make room for the real show. Or sit down, shut up and join the audience.
*offers popcorn*
sniff sniff... ok *grabs some and stuff in his mouth* chomp chomp

sniff sniff... ok *grabs some and stuff in his mouth* chomp chomp
Good, good. I always like a slightly larger audience. That way the spectator population never gets too low if I decide to join the frackas.:D

You don't know Erica.:D


http://ingeb.org/Lieder/aufderhe.html

And now you know...

http://ingeb.org/Lieder/aufderhe.html

And now you know...
LOL I love that song!:) I didn't think anyone else like songs that old...or German.:( But no, that's not the same. Spelled differently, I'm afraid. That and I'm not in love with Erica.:rolleyes: :p

I hate these stupid racists, posts, oviously done, by a insecure, man trying to justify that he cant find any White women* cause of black men taking them. Wtf, please, go out on date get yourself a women, maybe do the same, and start dating outside you're race.

White skin is more attractive? In any objective way? Please. Is anyone else sick of all this racist pussy-footing around lately? I liked it better when our stormfront members just came out with it already. Look, if for whatever reason you think white people are just more fuckable than the rest of us, fine...but don't pretend there is any science to it, don't pretend there are reasons other than your own preferences, which in many of you seem to be molded by 'I don't want to be around people who are different than me'.

First of all, who someone chooses to fuck is nobody's business as long as only consenting adults are involved.

Having said that, it may be that men are genetically predisposed to finding lighter skinned women attractive. Lighter skinned women produce more vitamin D when exposed to sunlight and vitamin D is important for reproduction. Since our genes are programmed to reproduce themselves as efficiently as possible it's not unlikely that a trait that gives a slight reproductive edge would be found desirable.

White skin is more attractive? In any objective way? Please. Is anyone else sick of all this racist pussy-footing around lately? I liked it better when our stormfront members just came out with it already. Look, if for whatever reason you think white people are just more fuckable than the rest of us, fine...but don't pretend there is any science to it, don't pretend there are reasons other than your own preferences, which in many of you seem to be molded by 'I don't want to be around people who are different than me'.


Its a matter of personal taste. And you, my dear, are as white as me.:p

White skin is more attractive? In any objective way? Please. Is anyone else sick of all this racist pussy-footing around lately? I liked it better when our stormfront members just came out with it already. Look, if for whatever reason you think white people are just more fuckable than the rest of us, fine...but don't pretend there is any science to it, don't pretend there are reasons other than your own preferences, which in many of you seem to be molded by 'I don't want to be around people who are different than me'.

Nonsense. You can't attack somebody for their preference in partners, that just doesn't make sense. If somebody preferred blondes you wouldn't be attacking them for not liking brunettes, likewise if somebody preferred obese people you wouldn't be attacking them for not preferring thin people (although, whether or not they would get attacked if they liked thin people but not obese people is up for debate...).

Some people might simply not find darker skin that attractive. Just like some people don't find light skin attractive. No harm in that.

First of all, who someone chooses to fuck is nobody's business as long as only consenting adults are involved.

Having said that, it may be that men are genetically predisposed to finding lighter skinned women attractive. Lighter skinned women produce more vitamin D when exposed to sunlight and vitamin D is important for reproduction. Since our genes are programmed to reproduce themselves as efficiently as possible it's not unlikely that a trait that gives a slight reproductive edge would be found desirable.


Yeah- I could picture you and I wolfwhistling the white girls driving through the main drag in Seaside Heights, and commenting to each other on all the vitamin D they must have.

Its the ones with the vitamin "D" deficiencies I used to give liberal doeses to.

Ok, I know this is probably going to spiral into an out of control flame war, but against my better judgement, here I go:

Interracial couples where the male is black and the female is white are much more common than vice versa. In fact, highly educated black men are 15 times more likely to marry highly educated white women than they are to marry highly educated black women, even though there are more highly educated black women than highly educated black men. Also, even at my school 9 out of 10 times in an interracial couple the male is black and the female is white. Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin. I'm not suggesting that interracial marriages ought to be banned, since I'm a social libertarian at heart, what I'm doing is exploring the trends of interracial marriages and the reasons why. Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

My favorite ice cream is chocolate by the way, not vanilla. Ironic isn't it?

You are being extremely subjective. It's your personal view that white skin is more attractive. I share that view with you but it's still subjective. Your claim about blacks being more aggressive and masculine is subjective too. Some might see it as "masculine" while others see it simply as uncivility.

Nonsense. You can't attack somebody for their preference in partners, that just doesn't make sense. If somebody preferred blondes you wouldn't be attacking them for not liking brunettes, likewise if somebody preferred obese people you wouldn't be attacking them for not preferring thin people (although, whether or not they would get attacked if they liked thin people but not obese people is up for debate...).

Some people might simply not find darker skin that attractive. Just like some people don't find light skin attractive. No harm in that.

Personally, I try to avoid any blanket generalizations. Yes-I'm married to a white, blonde, blue eyed girl, but I have been attracted strongly to-And also repulsed by- people of all sizes,colors and ethnicities.

Do white blondes catch my eye more than most others? Yeah.

Have I lusted after brunettes and redheads, thin and plump? Yeah.

loool :D


Most racial discussions and racism is lit by flame of inferriority complex compared to another race. I don't believe all people are equal but I certainly dont believe race makes them inferrior or superior either. The thing that makes someone superior to another is self confidance, it puts strenght behind your actions. ıt makes a man a man, and lack of it makes one a weakest type of gay. I certainly have no problem about gays if its in their private bedrooms by the way, but I certainly dont like weakness,obediance of a man to another like a woman in the public.

If you opened this thread because you feel less masculine than black man in your area I suggest you go bodybuild like hell, then go to beach and roast yourself under sun. You are ready for strong guy lover chicks! Or you can self pity till you become a gay slut.
If you dont then I wonder why it bothers you?

WTF? Lack of self confidence makes you gay? :rolleyes: I'm sure this "theory" of yours would rock the psychological esteblishment (!). And an educated elite turk (this is an assumption, I know. But I base it on the fact that you speak english so good although you are from a developing country) saying all gays are self pitying sluts? I wonder what the uneducated ones think, the ones that are flooding europe. Pim Fortyn (elected as the greatest dutch politican of modern times or something in a poll in holland) was right I guess. One hell of a dark future awaits european gays, if trends continue....:headbang:

Edit: I forgot to add your claim that gays are inferior, since according to you "what makes someone superior to another is self confidance" and "gays got low confidence"...Read this and read the second sentence again....

Its a matter of personal taste. And you, my dear, are as white as me.:p
Not for the racial purists, Carni...I'm a mud-person as much as a black-skinned woman.

Nonsense. You can't attack somebody for their preference in partners, that just doesn't make sense. If somebody preferred blondes you wouldn't be attacking them for not liking brunettes, likewise if somebody preferred obese people you wouldn't be attacking them for not preferring thin people (although, whether or not they would get attacked if they liked thin people but not obese people is up for debate...).

Some people might simply not find darker skin that attractive. Just like some people don't find light skin attractive. No harm in that.
When it's phrased as a preference, I have no problem with it...when it's framed in some sort of psuedo-scientific way and then phrased as more 'natural', then I take issue.

Again:
White skin is more attractive? In any objective way? Please. Is anyone else sick of all this racist pussy-footing around lately? I liked it better when our stormfront members just came out with it already. Look, if for whatever reason you think white people are just more fuckable than the rest of us, fine...but don't pretend there is any science to it, don't pretend there are reasons other than your own preferences, which in many of you seem to be molded by 'I don't want to be around people who are different than me'.

These 'white is sexier' threads have been popping up by the handfuls each day lately, so forgive me if I don't think it's just about 'preferences' for those that keep obsessing over white, white skin.

Personally, I try to avoid any blanket generalizations. Yes-I'm married to a white, blonde, blue eyed girl, but I have been attracted strongly to-And also repulsed by- people of all sizes,colors and ethnicities.

Do white blondes catch my eye more than most others? Yeah.

Have I lusted after brunettes and redheads, thin and plump? Yeah.

I stand by my point.

Just a disclaimer, first: I'm not gay. :p This being said, I do find black men more aesthetically (so not in a sexual way) pleasing than black women. And white girls more than black girls. Perhaps I'm just typical for the general population and that's why we have these mixed marriages being mainly black male/white female.

P.S. Sinuhue, you're overreacting.

P.S. Sinuhue, you're overreacting.
Sure I am.

I just read "The Third Chimpanzee" by Jared Diamond. The author cites a study which describes that men or women prefer women or men from the the race they had most contacts with in their first four or five years. Asian women who where adopted by white couples marry almost exclusively white men and so on:fluffle: .

maybe its true, at least a bit?!? :D

I just read "The Third Chimpanzee" by Jared Diamond. The author cites a study which describes that men or women prefer women or men from the the race they had most contacts with in their first four or five years. Asian women who where adopted by white couples marry almost exclusively white men and so on:fluffle: .

maybe its true, at least a bit?!? :D
By that logic, in this thread, we would have to say that black boys have more contact with whites at an early age than black girls. Or white girls would have more contact with blacks than white boys. I really don't see where that is taking place.

Hmm.... well all I gotta say is this... doesn't matter what colour your skin is and what colour the skin of your partner is... its fucking hawt stuff, plain and simple. :)

There was a video on wimp.com making fun of asian/white couples and how white guys are stealing all the asian chicks... can't find it now though.

*shrugs*

Ok, I know this is probably going to spiral into an out of control flame war, but against my better judgement, here I go:

Interracial couples where the male is black and the female is white are much more common than vice versa. In fact, highly educated black men are 15 times more likely to marry highly educated white women than they are to marry highly educated black women, even though there are more highly educated black women than highly educated black men. Also, even at my school 9 out of 10 times in an interracial couple the male is black and the female is white. Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin. I'm not suggesting that interracial marriages ought to be banned, since I'm a social libertarian at heart, what I'm doing is exploring the trends of interracial marriages and the reasons why. Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

My favorite ice cream is chocolate by the way, not vanilla. Ironic isn't it?

Nonsense! I'm asuming you live in the states or Europe. Most imagrants from poor countries (including white and black africans) to a rich country are MEN; looking for work or fleeing because of their political associations (in poor countries women's role in politics and work tends to be even more limited than in the west). Men have needs, there will obviously be more local women than foreign, all of which can lead to interacial relationships, marriage and children. As for "African Ameicans" (a term most real African's don't like) for example, I'm presuming that there is a certain status thing in having a white girlfriend/wife while women may suffer from a certain stigma for having a white husband/boyfriend. Very similar to second and third generation muslim, indian and west indian immagrants to Britain.

You may have favorite's in what ever you want, the issue of race is when favoritism towards on group (usually your own) becomes prejudice toward those that are not that group.

It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated. For instance, at the exact moment you said "why do so many black men marry white women?" a freak wormhole opened in the fabric of the space-time continuum and carried your words far far back in time across almost infinite reaches of space to a distant galaxy where strange and warlike beings were poised on the brink of frightful interstellar battle.
The two opposing leaders were meeting for the last time. A dreadful silence fell across the conference table as the commander of the Vl'Hurgs, resplendent in his black jewelled battle shorts, gazed levelly at the G'Gugvunt leader squatting opposite him in a cloud of green, sweet-smelling steam. As a million sleek and horribly beweaponed star cruisers poised to unleash electric death at his single word of command, the Vl'Hurg challenged his vile enemy to take back what it had said about his mother.
The creature stirred in its sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words "why do so many black men marry white women?" drifted across the conference table. Unfortunately, in the Vl'Hurg tongue this was the most dreadful insult imaginable, and there was nothing for it but to wage terrible war for centuries. Eventually the error was detected, but over two hundred and fifty thousand worlds, their peoples and cultures perished in the holocaust.
You have destroyed most of a small galaxy. Please pick your words with greater care.
YES! Great use of a Douglas Adams reference!

*applauds wildly*

Why do so many black men marry white women?

To make you uncomfortable.

Or ... people get married because they love each other.

Take your pick.

Has no one noticed that the OP hasn't posted since the first troll-dung? Why keep feeding hi-- oh. Yeah, I just did, too, didn't I? Well, as long as I'm making an ass of myself --

1) If "White skin is preferable" or whatever horseshit the OP said, then why are White women going against preference to scrog Black men? Does the "black men are more aggressive" horseshit trump the skin preference horseshit? And if so, how and by how much? Show me some statis-- oh.



2) I have a skin preference. I prefer my mates without skin. Something about the sinewy red throb of a skinless chick really does it for me. Well, that and the continuous tortured screaming.

:rolleyes:

2) I have a skin preference. I prefer my mates without skin. Something about the sinewy red throb of a skinless chick really does it for me. Well, that and the continuous tortured screaming.

Sexy!

Stop it Intangelon, you are clearly overreacting:rolleyes: The poor guy just espoused a preference, and here you are jumping down his poor throat for no reason.

Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin.
I am white and I prefer white femskin though I really don't think it's some sort of truth, just my preference.

Stop it Intangelon, you are clearly overreacting:rolleyes: The poor guy just espoused a preference, and here you are jumping down his poor throat for no reason.
And that's why I nurse a completely unreasonable crush on you, sweetness.

Sexy!
I knew that would arouse you!

I am white and I prefer white femskin though I really don't think it's some sort of truth, just my preference.
Much more acceptable. Thank you.

Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

Because I personally don't give a damn what your favorite ice cream flavor is, but your "favorite" color of skin might affect me directly (I'm not black, but I'm just sayin').

I guess suggesting that "maybe they love each other" would be out of the question?

Meh, usually when there's an asian/white couple the girl is asian and the guy is white...

I suspect that's because in Asia (esp Japan and Korea) white men are idealised. Many western men (esp in America) have a "exotic" Asian fetish.

I Lööööve them black chicks and I've had my share...
In Sweden?

Oh, well....okay. I forgot to mention redheads. Those are good too. Oh, and the pic. It's amazing what a Google search for "grammar nazi" turns up (so what if she actually has dark brown eyes; kinda reminds me of Erica's sister, Rachel)....
http://www.makeoutclub.com/htdocs/profiles/images/girls/InkAndHeather.jpg
oh my god

I suspect that's because in Asia (esp Japan and Korea) white men are idealised.




Thats true,since for some reason if you look at 99% of all anime and manga white(especially blonde haired and blue eyed) men are usually the main characters.

Because I personally don't give a damn what your favorite ice cream flavor is, but your "favorite" color of skin might affect me directly (I'm not black, but I'm just sayin').

Can I ask how so? How does his preference affect you?

Can I ask how so? How does his preference affect you?

Bad for his political correctness obsession I guess....

Nope. Naturally pale is uebersexy.
Dinaverg will agree with you there.

In Sweden?

Yes, there are black people in Sweden.

Whatever gave you this conclusion?
Because you sit there and lie about that fact to our faces 90% of the time.

Actually that is true, women tend not to be as visually aroused as men. They've done brain pattern studies on that matter.

Stop it Intangelon, you are clearly overreacting:rolleyes: The poor guy just espoused a preference, and here you are jumping down his poor throat for no reason.
Well, I'm not the one violently accusing people of "racist pussy-footing" without proper evidence. It seemed to me that the OP was pretty civil. Since when is politely asking a question evidence of racism? But of course, for the PV crowd some subjects are not-to-be-mentioned. I consider this as absurd as the Communists outlowing the "bourgeois pseudosciences" genetics and cybernetics.

Trying to be just a bit on topic, I belive that black men may look more "manly", while white women are more "feminine". That could explain the phenomenon. It could also show why most Asian-European couples are white male/asian female, since Asian women look more delicate than the European ones.

Two words: Personal Preference.

Why do you care who marries who anyway? It's really not that big of a deal.

~Angellos~

[QUOTE=Ny Nordland]you are from a developing country) QUOTE]

Turkey isn't a developing country! Nevermind....

Well, I disagree with the generalisations in the O.P., Frickiled Girls ftw!

Can I ask how so? How does his preference affect you?
It means that one less person is willing to nail Hniz. :(

Because you sit there and lie about that fact to our faces 90% of the time.

Actually that is true, women tend not to be as visually aroused as men. They've done brain pattern studies on that matter.
I disagree. It's because in our culture women tend to be more viewed as eye candy than men do, but in my experience women are just as crazy and lust-filled as men. And that's judging by what they say when I'm there.

ok heres my theory on the subject. i just thought it up so dont bother asking me to prove it.


boys use anti-social behavior to freak out their parents. girls use sex.

what freaks out a parent more than having their sweet baby girl dating an inappropriate boy? what has a better knee jerk reaction than dating out of your race?

so in a school where there are more white girls than black girls, there will be more maleblack/femalewhite relationships than malewhite/femaleblack relationships.

*EDIT*
with the assumption being that about equal numbers of couples are in it just because they like each other so that the imbalance comes from the freakout factor.

I still say it's the penis size myth! White girls want big schlongs!! :p

White skin is more attractive? In any objective way? Please. Is anyone else sick of all this racist pussy-footing around lately? I liked it better when our stormfront members just came out with it already. Look, if for whatever reason you think white people are just more fuckable than the rest of us, fine...but don't pretend there is any science to it, don't pretend there are reasons other than your own preferences, which in many of you seem to be molded by 'I don't want to be around people who are different than me'.
Bunch of asshats, aren't they? It's really entirely subjective. I applaud this denouncement of the application of logic to overtly subjective qualifications.
You should all be very ashamed of yourselves.

Personally, I try to avoid any blanket generalizations. Yes-I'm married to a white, blonde, blue eyed girl, but I have been attracted strongly to-And also repulsed by- people of all sizes,colors and ethnicities.

Do white blondes catch my eye more than most others? Yeah.

Have I lusted after brunettes and redheads, thin and plump? Yeah.
Mmmm, brunettes and redheads....
*drools*

Dinaverg will agree with you there.

Aheh...well...Yeah, sorta, looking at the girls I like, that's possible...

Again:


These 'white is sexier' threads have been popping up by the handfuls each day lately, so forgive me if I don't think it's just about 'preferences' for those that keep obsessing over white, white skin.
Yeah, really.
*attempts thread coup to change topic to sexy Native Americans*

Yeah, really.
*attempts thread coup to change topic to sexy Native Americans*

I might know a few, but I dunno if they're actually Native American...never really asked...

Why does it matter? Are you jealous?? Huh? huh? huh? :p

I guess suggesting that "maybe they love each other" would be out of the question?
For my purposes of entertainment due to the flamewar, yes, it is.
*offers popcorn*

...

Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin. I'm not suggesting that interracial marriages ought to be banned, since I'm a social libertarian at heart, what I'm doing is exploring the trends of interracial marriages and the reasons why. Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

Pssh, there's alot of hot black girls, you need glasses. (or more online porn)

Pssh, there's alot of hot black girls, you need glasses. (or more online porn)

For you maybe. I just don't like 'em.

I might know a few, but I dunno if they're actually Native American...never really asked...
I see. Well, I've known two, definitely two....Fascinating people. Both of them operated more on the intuitive portions of the brain. Curious. They were geneologically Native, but not at all culturally. Which was a bit disappointing.:( At least they were hot.:D

For you maybe. I just don't like 'em.
Meh, not enough to comment, so moving right along....
*puts hand on shoulder and steers away from Soviet Haaregrad*

In response to the OP's question. The reason is simple. Women don't care about looks, they care about the size of a specific organ. I'll just leave it at that.

oh my god
Yes? You called.... *looks at cheap Rolex knock-off*....uhm, you, uh, you called? Earlier?

Aheh...well...Yeah, sorta, looking at the girls I like, that's possible...
Such as your Erin? She fits such criteria?
(Only mentioned her 'cause that's the only name I can remember of your extensive list.)

[Quote]Why do so many black men marry white women?[/UNQUOTE]

Define "so many"? Gimme a percentage. I don't know any that have.

I suggest you ask the brothers that at school during gym class, preferrably as far from the building as possible so that the gym teacher can't here you screaming....

Such as your Erin? She fits such criteria?
(Only mentioned her 'cause that's the only name I can remember of your extensive list.)

Umm, yeah, pretty much...and Ally, and Dana, and Sarah...Heather too, depending on your standard for "pale".

Umm, yeah, pretty much...and Ally, and Dana, and Sarah...Heather too, depending on your standard for "pale".
You saw the pic I posted in one of these threads or another?

You saw the pic I posted in one of these threads or another?

Ah, yeah, I saw it...She didn't do it for me...For these girls, the skin is pale, yeah, but I dunno...Does the blush disqualify them?

Whatever gave you this conclusion?
My own personal experience. But they do care somewhat, just not as much as men.

WTF? Lack of self confidence makes you gay? :rolleyes: I'm sure this "theory" of yours would rock the psychological esteblishment (!). And an educated elite turk (this is an assumption, I know. But I base it on the fact that you speak english so good although you are from a developing country) saying all gays are self pitying sluts? I wonder what the uneducated ones think, the ones that are flooding europe. Pim Fortyn (elected as the greatest dutch politican of modern times or something in a poll in holland) was right I guess. One hell of a dark future awaits european gays, if trends continue....:headbang:

Edit: I forgot to add your claim that gays are inferior, since according to you "what makes someone superior to another is self confidance" and "gays got low confidence"...Read this and read the second sentence again....


Actually this theory applies more to low income level people more than rich. Because in primat societies like monkeys strongest man fucks other men to show that he is the boss. You can see same thing in prisons and suburbs too, men see sex as a weapon as a tool to make others accept their power. So the ones flooding europe accept it generally this way as yours ancestors and theirs did. Those people doesnt look homosexuality as a good thing, neither a few generations ago europeans did. And as far as I care people have the right to like or not like things. Being democrat doesnt mean making everyone appreciate gays but to teach your citizens to live together peacefully even if they dont like each other.
***There is no bottom end to destroying or exiling people you dont like, today you kick immigrants, other days someone against your beliefs etc and 'till the day you are alone it goes on.***

homosexuality... But among more elite and rich people it kinda becomes a preferance of meat on the table, adding variety....
But If I claimed this applies to all gays than I would be wrong as you say too. I have gay friends and still I cant possibly know all the reasons of homosexuality.

Ok, I know this is probably going to spiral into an out of control flame war, but against my better judgement, here I go:

Interracial couples where the male is black and the female is white are much more common than vice versa. In fact, highly educated black men are 15 times more likely to marry highly educated white women than they are to marry highly educated black women, even though there are more highly educated black women than highly educated black men. Also, even at my school 9 out of 10 times in an interracial couple the male is black and the female is white. Feel free to call me a racist, but I think it's because white women are more desirable. Women in general tend to care less about personal appearance than men (although they do care), and black men tend to be more aggressive and masculine than white men (as a whole), which gives them an edge when seeking mates. Also, I think it's because white skin is simply put, more attractive than black skin. I'm not suggesting that interracial marriages ought to be banned, since I'm a social libertarian at heart, what I'm doing is exploring the trends of interracial marriages and the reasons why. Now, I have a question for all of you that will call me ignorant, a redneck, racist, etc: If I can have a favorite flavor of ice cream, why can't I have a favorite color of skin?

My favorite ice cream is chocolate by the way, not vanilla. Ironic isn't it?

You can't get rocky road without a little bit of marshmellows throw in to the chocolate :D

Who cares? If they are happy, then it's a done deal. FYI, Moses, the Jewish patriarch, married a black woman.

White skin is more attractive? In any objective way? Please. Is anyone else sick of all this racist pussy-footing around lately? I liked it better when our stormfront members just came out with it already. Look, if for whatever reason you think white people are just more fuckable than the rest of us, fine...but don't pretend there is any science to it, don't pretend there are reasons other than your own preferences, which in many of you seem to be molded by 'I don't want to be around people who are different than me'.
Please, don't put words in my mouth. I never gave any scienitific proof, it's just my own personal opinion, and I do find black women attractive on occasion. Once again, I did not offer any scientific proof (not that there probably is any), so perhaps you should read what you're responding to in the future, hmmm?

why man women of various races prefer white man or woman? or why not

Everyone is skipping the 'most' improtant factor in todays world, its a materialistic world and:,
If the world was ruled by goblins or orcs, or they had more wealth than others people would than start marrying them. Because marriage is a bit different than sex and involve more economic thingies. The safety future etc people dont admit it but its true, women choose best candidate for father for various reasons. And its not jsut physical condition. İts money

Because there are more white rich people around. And a mans wealth is like his penis for a woman. And in western society a white woman is probably more educated than another. Its no secret that statistically non white people are poorer than whites in many countries because they are oppressed, slaved, immigrated etc.


On the other hand people choose interracial people to marry because genetically it makes gene pool larger and evolutionally it gives access to different kinds to emerge.
And still genetically some people prefer their own race to preserve genepool
Both are true and feremon tests proved that.

Has no one noticed that the OP hasn't posted since the first troll-dung? Why keep feeding hi-- oh. Yeah, I just did, too, didn't I? Well, as long as I'm making an ass of myself --

1) If "White skin is preferable" or whatever horseshit the OP said, then why are White women going against preference to scrog Black men? Does the "black men are more aggressive" horseshit trump the skin preference horseshit? And if so, how and by how much? Show me some statis-- oh.



2) I have a skin preference. I prefer my mates without skin. Something about the sinewy red throb of a skinless chick really does it for me. Well, that and the continuous tortured screaming.

:rolleyes:
The reason I didn't respond was because I went to sleep as soon as I posted my "question" so it wouldn't be physically possible for me to respond. I hope you understand now. I believe black men are more aggressive because they are the most likely to commit crimes out of any demographic group.

I like strawberry icecream, is it ironic that I'm squeamish? *Hmm*

Well, I'm not the one violently accusing people of "racist pussy-footing" without proper evidence. It seemed to me that the OP was pretty civil. Since when is politely asking a question evidence of racism? But of course, for the PV crowd some subjects are not-to-be-mentioned. I consider this as absurd as the Communists outlowing the "bourgeois pseudosciences" genetics and cybernetics.

Trying to be just a bit on topic, I belive that black men may look more "manly", while white women are more "feminine". That could explain the phenomenon. It could also show why most Asian-European couples are white male/asian female, since Asian women look more delicate than the European ones.
I agree with you. I find delicate asian women simply irresistible.

White guy married to a black woman here. I don't see any issues with it really in my mind. My wife is very cool and she's a beauty to go along with it. Just worked out that she was black.
I think maybe part of the answer to the OP's question is that our society tells us what beauty is for the most part. The overwhelmingly so called beauties in the media are white. So it may make sense for alot of black men to find white women attractive.
Also if you do look around I think you will find actual marriages to a person of the other race is very common. I didn't really start to pay attention to what the mix of couples was until I first started dating my wife. I thought I was the only white guy dating a black woman. To my suprise after I started looking around I would see this combination almost on a daily basis. So I think the OP should look around better and realize that it is not that uncommon either way.

please forgive me ignorance, i have not had time to read the whole thread, just the begining.

This has been a question i have been pondering a long time, but afraid to say anything in public for the obvious backlash, therefore i must add my praise to the chap who started this debate

The most likely reason is the conservatism of the groups involved,
white women in the western world are bought up the same as white boys, to (as much as possible) respect all races, cultures, and in many families to even have a sence of "Positive discrimination" for black people, this is out of some misguided guilt trip for the past and present state of africa etc

the media also has a part to play.. how many inter-racial couples are there on TV or in films where there is a white man and a black woman? very few.

its got nothing to do with masculinity and femeninity, if you like at the genetic studies of man, the males whom women judge most likely to look after them and the children are most likely to be selected by a woman as a mate.. the most masculine of men are unlikely to get a mate in this day and age.. but of course there is always the exception to the rule

black women are quite sexually conservative, the idea of being intimately involved with a white man for many is a bad idea, they associate white people with slavery and malcontent
and then there is also a large demographic of black men who go after white women simply becuase it satisfies some infantile desire for revenge

my answer to all this... either total race intergration in civilised countries, this means programs aimed at improving the constantly knocked about white male figure or total race segregation.. for fairness you see ;) perhaps too extreme

Ah, yeah, I saw it...She didn't do it for me...For these girls, the skin is pale, yeah, but I dunno...Does the blush disqualify them?
Didn't for me either, but she was a random sample I pulled from a Google search for "grammar nazi." Not really a choice sample, for that matter. But she is as pale as I prefer. No, blush doesn't disqualify them. It's the underlying skin tone that's really the point of it. The only other pictures that are easy enough for me to care enough about are prom pictures of my apprentice. Not terribly great pictures, but I remember her in person.
*fawns over memories of five-foot, redheaded Swede*

I like strawberry icecream, is it ironic that I'm squeamish? *Hmm*
I don't really see the connection, no.

White guy married to a black woman here. I don't see any issues with it really in my mind. My wife is very cool and she's a beauty to go along with it. Just worked out that she was black.
I think maybe part of the answer to the OP's question is that our society tells us what beauty is for the most part. The overwhelmingly so called beauties in the media are white. So it may make sense for alot of black men to find white women attractive.
Also if you do look around I think you will find actual marriages to a person of the other race is very common. I didn't really start to pay attention to what the mix of couples was until I first started dating my wife. I thought I was the only white guy dating a black woman. To my suprise after I started looking around I would see this combination almost on a daily basis. So I think the OP should look around better and realize that it is not that uncommon either way.
Eight pages for someone to bring media and society into it. Knew I shoulda done it back on page two. And now I don't really care about posting on-topic...Meh, back to the spam.:D

I will shag any women that says yes, skinny, fat, white, black, dont care, she just better bring beer.

I will shag any women that says yes, skinny, fat, white, black, dont care, she just better bring beer.
*stares blankly*

From what I have read a white man is more likely to marry a Hispanic or Asian woman then a white woman is to marry black man.

I will shag any women that says yes, skinny, fat, white, black, dont care, she just better bring beer.
*slap*

That's what you deserve.

*slap*

That's what you deserve.
That's my kind of woman!;)

Read Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea. They discusses this very issue at various points.

As a quick synopsis, they suggests that its result of the breakdown of social and cultural taboos. Until recently (last 100 years or so), almost all societies encouraged marriage between peoples of the same cultural background. Take India as an extreme example. Marriage is traditionaly encouraged between families of the same caste, and inter-caste relationships are frowned upon. As society becomes more cosmopolitan, people from more traditional/restrictive backgrounds seek ways of expanding their limited experience. Hence the desire to break taboos - Catholic educated girls who can't keep their legs crossed - we probably all know at least one.

This could also help to explain the increased popularity of piercings and tatoos in the last 100 years.

Read Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea. They discusses this very issue at various points.

As a quick synopsis, they suggests that its result of the breakdown of social and cultural taboos. Until recently (last 100 years or so), almost all societies encouraged marriage between peoples of the same cultural background. Take India as an extreme example. Marriage is traditionaly encouraged between families of the same caste, and inter-caste relationships are frowned upon. As society becomes more cosmopolitan, people from more traditional/restrictive backgrounds seek ways of expanding their limited experience. Hence the desire to break taboos - Catholic educated girls who can't keep their legs crossed - we probably all know at least one.

This could also help to explain the increased popularity of piercings and tatoos in the last 100 years.
I think we're done with on-topic posts now. Sheesh!:rolleyes:

The reason I didn't respond was because I went to sleep as soon as I posted my "question" so it wouldn't be physically possible for me to respond. I hope you understand now. I believe black men are more aggressive because they are the most likely to commit crimes out of any demographic group.
And why do they commit more crimes, according to you, who seems to know everything about this topic? Is it JUST because of race? If so, do you have proof beyond the correlation between Blacks and crime, which is ONLY a correlation and not a cause? Look, Junior, you're a troll and a bad one at that. If you can't bother to actually read anything on the subject and instead use online forums as actual information, you're not just ignorant, you're ignorant and apathetic. Don't worry, you're far from alone. There are successful Blacks and criminal Blacks; just like there are successful whites and trailer trash. What the majority here is trying to get across to you is that to assume all of one race prefer something to another is a generalization. When you generalize without any kind of proof on race, you sound like a racist, whether you actually are one or not. You can only ever define the way one PERSON feels or believes, and that's by asking THEM. Are stereotypes sometimes accruate? Sure. But that's no reason to go around assuming that every White girl wants a Black man or will take one if available based on your arbitrary and correlational nonsense.

Read more. Please.

And why do they commit more crimes, according to you, who seems to know everything about this topic? Is it JUST because of race? If so, do you have proof beyond the correlation between Blacks and crime, which is ONLY a correlation and not a cause? Look, Junior, you're a troll and a bad one at that. If you can't bother to actually read anything on the subject and instead use online forums as actual information, you're not just ignorant, you're ignorant and apathetic. Don't worry, you're far from alone. There are successful Blacks and criminal Blacks; just like there are successful whites and trailer trash. What the majority here is trying to get across to you is that to assume all of one race prefer something to another is a generalization. When you generalize without any kind of proof on race, you sound like a racist, whether you actually are one or not. You can only ever define the way one PERSON feels or believes, and that's by asking THEM. Are stereotypes sometimes accruate? Sure. But that's no reason to go around assuming that every White girl wants a Black man or will take one if available based on your arbitrary and correlational nonsense.

Read more. Please.
To be honest, I don't think he has the attention span.:p

By that logic, in this thread, we would have to say that black boys have more contact with whites at an early age than black girls. Or white girls would have more contact with blacks than white boys. I really don't see where that is taking place.

Movies, magazines and TV.

Movies, magazines and TV.
Yup.
*nods sagely*
Wager we'd all be really confused if suddenly the media became more diverse.:eek:

Why do men make more stupid threads than women?

I was watching a program on Discovery/National Geographic ? recently about the brain. It said that by the time a child is 8 years old s/he already has an "attractivness map" in his/her brain that s/he will use later to seek out his/her prefered mate "type".

How this applies to the topic I leave up to the speculators.

Why do men make more stupid threads than women?
Because the overly common stupid men are more outgoing than the overly common stupid women.:p