NationStates Jolt Archive


National anthems

New Zero Seven
30-05-2006, 03:10
Just a general thread about national anthems. Do you like your country's (or any other country's) national anthem? Is there something you'd want to change in the anthem? Do we even need a national anthem for our nations?
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:12
If there was one thing about your country's (or any country's) national anthem, what would it be, and why?

What one thing?
Ladamesansmerci
30-05-2006, 03:12
If there was one thing about your country's (or any country's) national anthem, what would it be, and why?

I'd take away the words "god" and "sons command" in O Canada, its too politically incorrect for such a diverse nation.
Oh geez, why must everything be politically correct these days? If you don't like those parts, you don't have to sing it. It does not change the fact that Canada is a primarily Christian country and the default gender in English is masculine.
New Zero Seven
30-05-2006, 03:14
Because maybe political incorrectness is just ignorant. Duh... =P
AB Again
30-05-2006, 03:40
Because maybe political incorrectness is just ignorant. Duh... =P

No. Political correctness is ridiculous when you apply it to literary or poetic works. (Well I think it is ridiculous most of the time anyway, but meh).
The Coral Islands
30-05-2006, 04:03
When I sing it in English, I have no problem with "God keep our land". Even for a religious line, it is pretty innoculous. I tend to go with the "In all of us command" rather than "In all thy sons command" but I am not too concerned either way.

I do wish more people knew/sang the anthem beyond the second verse, however. The whole song is really nice.

There a Church hymn to the same tune, Lord Of The Lands (http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/o/r/lordland.htm), that is also really nicely written. Unfortunately when we want to be patriotic in Church we typically sing the official anthem, and ignore the other one (Who would sing two songs with the same tune, right?). Too bad, it's nice.
Anarchic Conceptions
30-05-2006, 08:38
If there was one thing about your country's (or any country's) national anthem, what would it be, and why? Do we even need national anthems for our nations?

Just one thing? Bollocks...

It's a toss up between the tune and the words then
Peisandros
30-05-2006, 09:38
I would get rid of the English part.

Maori is much nicer.
Iraqiya
30-05-2006, 09:57
I would get rid of the English part.

Maori is much nicer.

r u mad? half the maori anthem is just made up words in the 1st place!

o well, im moving to aussie in a month anyway :p
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 10:02
I would make England use its own national anthem (Jerusalem maybe) for sporting events rather than the national anthem of the United Kingdom
Greater Alemannia
30-05-2006, 10:08
I don't even wanna talk about Australia's anthem, so I will appear in this topic as an ethnic German.

We need to either grow some balls and use the first stanza, or chage to something like "Die Wacht am Rhein."
Pan-Celtica
30-05-2006, 10:15
I like the song by Embrace

Even though im Welsh

Die English bastads:sniper:
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 10:32
Welsh anthem sounds quite good. What do the words mean in English?
The Spurious Squirrel
30-05-2006, 10:48
I abhor the British anthem, especially as in verse 6, is the following anti Scottish sentiments....

"Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"
New Burmesia
30-05-2006, 10:52
I abhor the British anthem, especially as in verse 6, is the following anti Scottish sentiments....

"Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"

Along with the football, i'm reminded of this every day at (now English) school.

Abolish the monarchy and put Rule Britannia as our national anthem. It's far less boring.
Bejerot
30-05-2006, 11:11
I quite like the American national anthem, but if I could change one thing, I'd bitch-slap all of the people who decide they have to embellish it when singing at sporting events. It goes on for far too long when they do that >_>.
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 11:14
I abhor the British anthem, especially as in verse 6, is the following anti Scottish sentiments....

"Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"

The joke is of course that it was a Scottish king who became king of England and unified the crown and since the Act of Union in 1707 the Scots have had a disproportionate say in the government of the UK.
The Spurious Squirrel
30-05-2006, 11:39
The joke is of course that it was a Scottish king who became king of England and unified the crown and since the Act of Union in 1707 the Scots have had a disproportionate say in the government of the UK.Which would explain why so many unpopular English Government decisions are imposed upon Scotland.

Have you forgotten that the English Poll Tax was imposed upon the Scots, a year before England? It was only when the English found it unnaceptable, that the English Tory Government decided to scrap it. Oh yes, the Scots certainly have a disproportionate influence in British Politics....i.e. "None"
Svalbardania
30-05-2006, 11:40
Just one thing to say about the Australian National Anthem: GET RID OF IT! THE WHOLE THING!!

I vote for Waltzing Matilda... or better yet, A Land Down Under (Men at Work):p
Demented Oppression
30-05-2006, 11:41
If I was to compose a national anthem for Demented Oppression, it would definitely be a death metal track.
Allanea
30-05-2006, 11:46
While it's not my country: Get the people who sing the Star-Spangled Banner to sing the full lyrics.


O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Demented Oppression
30-05-2006, 11:48
*vomits*

:)
British persons
30-05-2006, 11:54
I think that Land of hope and glory should be the British National in time of the 2012 olympics
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 12:05
Which would explain why so many unpopular English Government decisions are imposed upon Scotland.

Have you forgotten that the English Poll Tax was imposed upon the Scots, a year before England? It was only when the English found it unnaceptable, that the English Tory Government decided to scrap it. Oh yes, the Scots certainly have a disproportionate influence in British Politics....i.e. "None"

Scotland has a population that has hovered aroung the 5million mark in a Uk of c.55m. It does not get it all its own way(and lets not forget that the community charge was the brainchild of the scottish politician who became secretary of state for Scotland and brought it in because he thought it was a good idea). of course Gordon Brown, Robin Cook, Malcolm Rifkind to name but a few have had no impact whatsoever on british politics.
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 12:10
I think that Land of hope and glory should be the British National in time of the 2012 olympics



I think this is an excellent British anthem but still like God save the Queen despite the hanovarian verse that is never ever sung - only raked over by bitter SNP zealots desperate for ammunition.

( I do enjoy sining Flower of Scotland at rugby matches but would be prepared to sing something else if someone came up with a good alternative)
Demented Oppression
30-05-2006, 12:14
I think that Land of hope and glory should be the British National in time of the 2012 olympics



I can't believe that the Americans nicked what is quite possibly the most British piece EVER and used it for their bloody graduation song. It's English, use some Copland or something!
BogMarsh
30-05-2006, 12:19
Ah.... New and Improved National Anthems...
*goes back ( as usual ) to 1759*

Come cheer up my lads, tis to Glory we steer,
to add something more to the wonderful year,
to Honour we call you, not press you like slaves,
for none are as free as the Sons of the waves,

Hearts of Oak are our ships,
Gallant Tars are our men,
we always are ready
stay, boys, steady!

We'll fight and we'll conquer again and again.
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 12:22
Ah.... New and Improved National Anthems...
*goes back ( as usual ) to 1759*

Come cheer up my lads, tis to Glory we steer,
to add something more to the wonderful year,
to Honour we call you, not press you like slaves,
for none are as free as the Sons of the waves,

Hearts of Oak are our ships,
Gallant Tars are our men,
we always are ready
stay, boys, steady!

We'll fight and we'll conquer again and again.

Huzzah
The Spurious Squirrel
30-05-2006, 12:26
Scotland has a population that has hovered aroung the 5million mark in a Uk of c.55m. It does not get it all its own way(and lets not forget that the community charge was the brainchild of the scottish politician who became secretary of state for Scotland and brought it in because he thought it was a good idea). of course Gordon Brown, Robin Cook, Malcolm Rifkind to name but a few have had no impact whatsoever on british politics.You are right in saying that Scotland does not get it all it's own way.....It does not get a steel industry, shipbuilding, car industry. All of which were scrapped or destroyed by the Tories. Not surprisingly, those industries are able to remain in England. I am grateful however, that Scotlands Legal system and education provision are still it's own and not taken over by England (Like
Wales' was)
BogMarsh
30-05-2006, 12:26
Huzzah

It must have been quite unnerving for any foreign shipcrews who heard our lads sailing towards them, wot?

Anyone seen Zulu on Channel 4 last night?
Being sung at can be quite a nuissance, to put it mildly.
Borgoa
30-05-2006, 12:59
I rather like our national anthem...

''Yes, I want to live and I want to die in the North''
Timonesia
30-05-2006, 13:05
The Finnish national anthem... I like it quite lot, but there is one major thing that should be done about it.

Everyone should know how the melody of the ex-soviet union's national anthem goes, right? Well if not, then to describe it best, it had some might in it. The song alone showed how big and mighty the governemnt was (or what they claimed it to be). Finland, as a country next to Russia, should've gone that path rather than make up something that's boring as hell. Not to mention, that it's basically the same song in Estonia, only with different lyrics. And as Finland is bilingual, the same song is also in Swedish.

I say, we should have a song that would represent Finland the best. And as we all (or atleast I) know, Finland has big ego issues, allways trying to show the world what we can do, I think that's the one main reason we should go fo something that reminds of the soviet union's national anthem. Ofcourse, not the same song, but something like that.
Aligned Planets
30-05-2006, 13:09
God Save Margaret Thatcher
Narwah
30-05-2006, 13:11
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann

Oh! How I love the Irish national anthem. It's really, really popular - to the extent that it is now played a the end of birthday parties.

For anyone who wants to know what it means it's

Soldiers are we
whose lives are pledged to Ireland;
Some have come
from a land beyond the wave.
Sworn to be free,
No more our ancient sire land
Shall shelter the despot or the slave.
Tonight we man the gap of danger
In Erin's cause, come woe or weal
'Mid cannons' roar and rifles peal,
We'll chant a soldier's song.
BogMarsh
30-05-2006, 13:12
Is the current size of the Irish Army 2 or 3 battalions?
:p
Ieuano
30-05-2006, 13:16
wack in a bit of men of harlech methinks
Borgoa
30-05-2006, 13:17
The Finnish national anthem... I like it quite lot, but there is one major thing that should be done about it.

Everyone should know how the melody of the ex-soviet union's national anthem goes, right? Well if not, then to describe it best, it had some might in it. The song alone showed how big and mighty the governemnt was (or what they claimed it to be). Finland, as a country next to Russia, should've gone that path rather than make up something that's boring as hell. Not to mention, that it's basically the same song in Estonia, only with different lyrics. And as Finland is bilingual, the same song is also in Swedish.

I say, we should have a song that would represent Finland the best. And as we all (or atleast I) know, Finland has big ego issues, allways trying to show the world what we can do, I think that's the one main reason we should go fo something that reminds of the soviet union's national anthem. Ofcourse, not the same song, but something like that.

How about Hard Rock Halleluja?
Narwah
30-05-2006, 13:18
Is the current size of the Irish Army 2 or 3 battalions?
:p

We have an army now? I think our navy might have two ships, I can confirm one of them but we might have another hidden somewhere :D I know quite a few people in the army so we should have a fair few.
BogMarsh
30-05-2006, 13:23
We have an army now? I think our navy might have two ships, I can confirm one of them but we might have another hidden somewhere :D I know quite a few people in the army so we should have a fair few.

Well then, the national anthem can only be sung by those who are soldiers.

I think I've seen the ENTIRE irish army once - as the entire lot of 'em enacted the scottish Army in Braveheart.

PS.

ALBA ghu braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Greyenivol Colony
30-05-2006, 13:43
I think Rule Britannia would be the best anthem for the UK. Firstly, its Unionist all the way through, none of this England-this-England-that nonsense. Secondly, it's secular (well, it refers to the romanic pagan goddess of these isles, but Britannia is a pretty cool chick, so that's alright). Thirdly, it is a glorification of the values of liberty and democracy, something that Britain has _always_ stood for. And lastly, it's not God Save The Queen, 'nuff said.
ShuHan
30-05-2006, 13:56
tbh the only thing i think we should do is give england its own national anthem (preferably 'jerusalem' every one knows that song). wales and scotland do ( dunno about ulster coz thats only a temporary country)
and our anthem is the same as the combined anthem, if they have their own why cant we ITS DISCRIMINATORY.. ( not really but i like whinging for comedic purposes even though that bit wasnt meant to be funny) i think i'll drop the spade and stop digging

i wish i was either irish or scottish (not welsh though they suck)
BogMarsh
30-05-2006, 13:57
tbh the only thing i think we should do is give england its own national anthem (preferably 'jerusalem' every one knows that song). wales and scotland do ( dunno about ulster coz thats only a temporary country)
and our anthem is the same as the combined anthem, if they have their own why cant we ITS DISCRIMINATORY.. ( not really but i like whinging for comedic purposes even though that bit wasnt meant to be funny) i think i'll drop the spade and stop digging

i wish i was either irish or scottish (not welsh though they suck)


BAH.
Arthur was a Welshman, me boyo.
PS: He'll come again!
Maackivania
30-05-2006, 15:24
Get your hands off my stash
(by our honourable fearless leader J.E.V.Bj.Maack)

Oh glorious flag of green,
Your star shineth so black.
As your batwinged-cats mew,
In your forests so rich.

Your golden fields of hemp,
As a stream of cold beer.
Shine in the red sun,
As your freedom embraces me.

Your nation salutes you.
But not as much as natures bounty.
Its ours to embrace,
Its mine, get your own;

Get your hands off my stash.
Get your hands off my stash.
Its mine, get your own,
Get your hands off my stash.
Xandabia
30-05-2006, 15:26
sounds good .what tune is it sung to?
Zogia
30-05-2006, 15:30
Why do we Americans only sing the 1st verse of our national antham?
Forsakia
30-05-2006, 15:34
Welsh anthem sounds quite good. What do the words mean in English?
The opening is famously "The Land of my Fathers, is good unto me"

I can't remember the translation of the rest of it exactly, but a fair bit of it is talking about Wales being the land of bard and the poet, and how we're all tremendously good singers, and might have a bit about beautiful countryside in it as well.
New Zero Seven
30-05-2006, 15:52
Why do we Americans only sing the 1st verse of our national antham?

Well prolly because it'd take freaking forever just to sing all the verses of the official anthem. Most countries do that anyway.
Neo Kervoskia
30-05-2006, 15:55
Why do we Americans only sing the 1st verse of our national antham?
Because it's boring and we haven't the attention span.
Maackivania
30-05-2006, 15:56
sounds good .what tune is it sung to?

It is sung to an original melody... Im thinking about recording it soon and get Maackivania an official homepage outside NS... This shall come to pass in the month to come.
All official information on the Rogue Nation of Maackivania, our government and such, with a downloadable version of 'Get your hands off my stash'.

Greetings.

the Honourable Fearless Leader
J. E. V. Bj. Maack
New Zero Seven
30-05-2006, 15:57
Why do we Americans only sing the 1st verse of our national antham?

Because we wouldn't want it to go on for like 10 minutes now, would we? Just mostly time consuming, thats all. Most countries are like that anyhow, singing just the first verses.
Iztatepopotla
30-05-2006, 16:04
Because we wouldn't want it to go on for like 10 minutes now, would we? Just mostly time consuming, thats all. Most countries are like that anyhow, singing just the first verses.
Yup. The Mexican Anthem had like 24 stanzas and went on forever. It was mercifully reduced to two plus chorus.
New Granada
30-05-2006, 18:01
The US anthem isn't terribly compelling, nothing like the raw power of the soviet anthem.

The Chinese anthem is a little haunting, its certainly a "we mean business" sort of thing.

The Marseillaise is probably the best anthem ever written.
Aekus
30-05-2006, 18:07
The Marseillaise is probably the best anthem ever written.
I like it too (perhaps because it is very far from being politically correct).
New Granada
30-05-2006, 19:44
I like it too (perhaps because it is very far from being politically correct).


It certainly makes *me* want to spill some impure blood.
New Zero Seven
30-05-2006, 19:46
The national anthem of the Republic of South Africa seems pretty cool, its so magically magical, I really like it. Honestly I could listen to it all day. :p
Xantini
30-05-2006, 19:59
I like the US Anthem, it isnt the best, but its a nice song, lots of violence ;)

The Russian anthem is pretty decent as well, even in English it sounds good when sung correctly.
Soheran
30-05-2006, 19:59
Just a general thread about national anthems. Do you like your country's (or any other country's) national anthem?

The Star Spangled Banner is awful. La Marseillaise is probably my favorite national anthem, though the Soviet one had better music.

Is there something you'd want to change in the anthem?

Well, if I were in charge I'd replace it with the British version of the Internationale. Alternatively, if you want to keep the tune (which I don't), you could use this (http://home.planet.nl/~elder180/strijdlied/bannerlabor.htm).

Do we even need a national anthem for our nations?

Not if it's incoherent nationalist drivel, no.
New Zero Seven
31-05-2006, 00:45
The US anthem isn't terribly compelling, nothing like the raw power of the soviet anthem.

The Chinese anthem is a little haunting, its certainly a "we mean business" sort of thing.

The Marseillaise is probably the best anthem ever written.

The U.S. anthem has a pretty good tune, I dunno about the lyrics. The Chinese one is very uplifting, very... propoganda-ish. And then theres the French one, I think I like it.

I also think the German anthem sounds pretty nice.
Anarchic Conceptions
31-05-2006, 09:24
Which would explain why so many unpopular English Government decisions are imposed upon Scotland.

Have you forgotten that the English Poll Tax was imposed upon the Scots, a year before England? It was only when the English found it unnaceptable, that the English Tory Government decided to scrap it. Oh yes, the Scots certainly have a disproportionate influence in British Politics....i.e. "None"

I think the point may have been that Scotland is over represented at parliament, rather then them hegemonic.

of course Gordon Brown, Robin Cook, Malcolm Rifkind to name but a few have had no impact whatsoever on british politics.

Or Tony Blair of course...

(Well IIRC he has claimed to be Scottish)
Peisandros
31-05-2006, 09:25
r u mad? half the maori anthem is just made up words in the 1st place!

o well, im moving to aussie in a month anyway :p
How can a language have made up words.

Good, it's where you belong.
Pepe Dominguez
31-05-2006, 10:44
Simple fixes to the Star Spangled Banner:

1. It's about a stalemate.. mere survival. Victory is more glorious. Change that. Not just any victory, but an outright crushing one.. maybe the Marianas Turkey Shoot, the Battle of New Orleans (although Hank Williams Jr. pretty much nailed that one), Jackson's extermination campaign of revenge for Ft. Mims, the campaign against the Moros, or, going back, something respectably decisive like Cowpens or Saratoga (if traditional imagery is to be kept). Simple.

2. Needs more banjo. Every anthem is either a march or a ballad. Those are boring. Lift the tempo a bit, toss in some banjo, or at least some mandolin or something.. new, more glorious lyrics are useless if no one hears them.. make it worth sitting through.. something that stirs the blood at least a little. The current one was written by a lawyer, and it shows.. I say, give it some heart.

That should do for a start. :cool:
Xandabia
31-05-2006, 11:10
I think the point may have been that Scotland is over represented at parliament, rather then them hegemonic.



Or Tony Blair of course...

(Well IIRC he has claimed to be Scottish)

Well he went to school in Edinburgh but I don't think we'd rush to claim his as our own.

p.s. thank you for clarifying my point about influence rather than dominance
Rhoderick
31-05-2006, 11:35
Just a general thread about national anthems. Do you like your country's (or any other country's) national anthem? Is there something you'd want to change in the anthem? Do we even need a national anthem for our nations?

The old Zimbabwean national Anthem, Ishe Komborera (africa) (God save Africa) is much better than the ZANU (PF) properganda Simudzai Muwrewa (Stand up brothers - but can also mean get out white people with change of inflections). I've never heard the Old Rhodesian anthem, Rhodesian's never die, sounds hollow now if you think of it.

Ishe komborera (africa) is the shona version of the Zulu part of the South African anthem and has been the anthem of most post colonial African nations. I live in Scotland and I have to admit to liking the difiant Scotish anthems and their ability to have more than one, provided the all tell the English to nobb off. Can't ever get used to God Save the Queen first thing in the morning, maybe I'm just too much of a Republican (Classical not Irish or US meaning of the word) and Rule Britania is hardly ever heard - not very PC. I don't think the English should use Jeruselum as it is, like wise - not very PC
Isla Stada
31-05-2006, 11:38
So raise the scarlet standard high
Beneath its shade we'll live and die
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer
We'll keep the Red Flag flying here.

There's my "national" anthem ;)
Rhoderick
31-05-2006, 11:41
So raise the scarlet standard high
Beneath its shade we'll live and die
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer
We'll keep the Red Flag flying here.

There's my "national" anthem ;)

Agh Comrade, but what of the International?!?!?
Anarchic Conceptions
31-05-2006, 11:54
Well he went to school in Edinburgh but I don't think we'd rush to claim his as our own.


That's understandable.

But he was also born in Scotland as well.
Stolen Dreams
31-05-2006, 12:45
The old Soviet anthem with the WWII era lyrics is most likely the best I've ever heard, followed by the Swedish.
Interestingly, the music for the american one is an old british drinking song. Heritage, eh..
The Spurious Squirrel
31-05-2006, 14:51
I think the point may have been that Scotland is over represented at parliament, rather then them hegemonic.

I think you have failed to see the point I was making. If Scotlands politicians have so much influence, then why has so much Merde been given to Scotland, by the largely English politicians. Influence is only worth something if measurable achievements come as a result.

Or Tony Blair of course...
Again, what "influence" has he had on the USA???

(Well IIRC he has claimed to be Scottish)
Simply being Scottish is no recomendation for Scotlands/British interests, just look at Gordon Brown's ready willingness to play the Unionist man if it means the English electorate aren't too threatened by him (not that I think they have any reason to be)
Anarchic Conceptions
31-05-2006, 17:30
Simply being Scottish is no recomendation for Scotlands/British interests, just look at Gordon Brown's ready willingness to play the Unionist man if it means the English electorate aren't too threatened by him (not that I think they have any reason to be)

Did you just chop what I wrote up and applied them to different things?

Because I addressed neither:

"I think you have failed to see the point I was making. If Scotlands politicians have so much influence, then why has so much Merde been given to Scotland, by the largely English politicians. Influence is only worth something if measurable achievements come as a result."

nor

" Again, what "influence" has he had on the USA???"
New Zero Seven
31-05-2006, 18:17
Ishe komborera (africa) is the shona version of the Zulu part of the South African anthem and has been the anthem of most post colonial African nations.

I like the melody of the South African and other African anthems though, its very uplifting. Its the sounds like the sound of hope.
CP Hiu
31-05-2006, 18:19
I like the national anthem of China. It shows the determination of Chinese people in a harsh environment.
New Zero Seven
31-05-2006, 18:20
Ilkike the national anthem of China. It shows the determination of Chinese people in a harsh environment.

Yeah, it does actually. But once you hear its like hearing the words "China will PWN you!", you know? Haha.
Nerotika
31-05-2006, 18:20
I would say...just to piss the Hillbilly redneck KKK racist bastards off.

We should make the U.S. national anthem into all the major languages.

German, Russian, (Whatever China speaks...), Japanese, (its already in spanish), vietnamese, and whatever else comes up...we should also dumb down the language to help out the Brits who think we talk incorrect and to fast...sorry 'bout that to all brits.
The Spurious Squirrel
01-06-2006, 03:04
Did you just chop what I wrote up and applied them to different things?

Because I addressed neither:

"I think you have failed to see the point I was making. If Scotlands politicians have so much influence, then why has so much Merde been given to Scotland, by the largely English politicians. Influence is only worth something if measurable achievements come as a result."

nor

" Again, what "influence" has he had on the USA???"
Perhaps then you can be clearer on what you do actually say. If you write one thing and mean another, I cannot read your mind to determine the difference. The point I made about Tony Blairs "influence" was mine, which was why it was at the end of my posting.
Anarchic Conceptions
01-06-2006, 09:42
Perhaps then you can be clearer on what you do actually say.

Perhaps you should be clearer in your formatting

If you write one thing and mean another, I cannot read your mind to determine the difference. The point I made about Tony Blairs "influence" was mine, which was why it was at the end of my posting.

Well I thought I was being pretty clear, that:

(i) Scotland is over represented in the House of Commons, and
(ii) Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh.


Those aren't opinions btw, they are facts.
Rhoderick
01-06-2006, 10:01
I like the melody of the South African and other African anthems though, its very uplifting. Its the sounds like the sound of hope.

Inkosi Si koleli which is the Ndebele and Zulu versions of Ishe Komborera arealmost calls to arms, war crys, while Ishe Komborera is a lament to the dead, same song, same word (granted different languages), just different meaning; the English Version God save Africa is more a protestant style hymm.
The Spurious Squirrel
01-06-2006, 12:07
Perhaps you should be clearer in your formatting



Well I thought I was being pretty clear, that:

(i) Scotland is over represented in the House of Commons, and
(ii) Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh.


Those aren't opinions btw, they are facts.
Good, you are making more sense in what you're posting. The point I am making is that Even though Scotland has more MP's per head of population than England, that does not mean it has any greater influence in Westminster. As I mentioned earlier, when I spoke about the poll tax in the 80's.

In the 90's when there was minimal or zero conservative representation in Scotland. What real influence did Scotland have with over 60 Scottish Labour MP's....None.

Scotland is not the most over represented country in the UK, that title goes to Wales who have 40 MP's with a population of aprox 3,000,000. That is aprox. 1 MP for every 74,000 people, Scotland doesn't even come close to this.
Aryavartha
01-06-2006, 19:00
Well, FWIW, this is the Indian national anthem and I quite like it

Jana-Gana-Mana-Adhinayaka, Jaya He
Bharata-Bhagya-Vidhata
Punjab-Sindhu-Gujarata-Maratha
Dravida-Utkala-Banga
Vindhya-Himachala-Yamuna-Ganga
Uchchhala-Jaladhi Taranga
Tava Subha Name Jage
Tava Subha Ashisa Mage
Gahe Tava Jaya Gatha.
Jana-Gana-Mangala Dayaka, Jaya He
Bharata-Bhagya-Vidhata,
Jaya He, Jaya He, Jaya He,
Jaya Jaya Jaya, Jaya He

In English
Thou art the ruler of the minds of all people,
dispenser of India's destiny.
Thy name rouses the hearts of Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat, the Maratha country,
in the Dravida country, Utkala (Orissa) and Banga (Bengal);
It echoes in the hills of the Vindhyas and Himalayas,
it mingles in the rhapsodies of the pure waters Jamuna and the Ganges.
They chant only thy name,
they seek only thy blessings,
They sing only thy praise.
The saving of all people waits in thy hand,
thou dispenser of India's destiny.
Victory, victory, victory to thee.


and I quite like this video too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7399792002477900458&q=jana+gana+mana
The Far Realms
01-06-2006, 19:15
My favorite national anthem is probably either Hatikvah (Israel), or La Marseille (France).

The song that was sung at Bush's second inauguration would make a good anthem if they shortened it a bit. Even IF it was written by John Ashcroft.
New Granada
01-06-2006, 19:24
My favorite national anthem is probably either Hatikvah (Israel), or La Marseille (France).

The song that was sung at Bush's second inauguration would make a good anthem if they shortened it a bit. Even IF it was written by John Ashcroft.


"Let the Mighty Eagle Soar" ???

Whats wrong with you?