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Can a baptised person be unbaptised?

Sel Appa
30-05-2006, 03:04
Can they?
Psychotic Mongooses
30-05-2006, 03:05
Can they?
What, physically?

Otherwise, yeah. Just stop believing. That works just fine.
Thriceaddict
30-05-2006, 03:06
Those catholic street-preachers keep telling me I'm still one of them, so I guess not.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-05-2006, 03:07
Can they?

Yes. You smack him in the head with sponges. *nod*
The Tribes Of Longton
30-05-2006, 03:07
If you don't believe in Christ anymore, the ceremony loses all meaning as a spiritual nod to the big guy. Hence, you unbaptise yourself.

EDIT: Damn you PM MkII
Sel Appa
30-05-2006, 03:10
It's not me...or I would have asked my priest(if I was christian).
Galloism
30-05-2006, 03:11
Those catholic street-preachers keep telling me I'm still one of them, so I guess not.

You can write a letter of resignation to the catholic church and you'll be removed from their count, if that's what you want.
New Zero Seven
30-05-2006, 03:12
Well, why not? You just gotta baptise yourself, but this time in reverse... :)
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:13
Can they?

I think it involves semen...
Kecibukia
30-05-2006, 03:14
Dunking your head in a vat of acid might work.
Kecibukia
30-05-2006, 03:18
I think it involves semen...

Fass, w/ you, everything involves semen. :p :fluffle:
HotRodia
30-05-2006, 03:20
I recommend blasphemy as a counter to baptism. Highly effective.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:21
Fass, w/ you, everything involves semen. :p :fluffle:

Well, it's guaranteed to spruce up any shindig.
Katganistan
30-05-2006, 03:24
According to most Christian doctrine, no. But check with the denomination you need to know about...
The Mindset
30-05-2006, 03:25
If you're talking Catholic baptism, just get yourself excommunicated. Call the Pope a big fat doody head, or something. There are twelve ways to be automatically excommunicated:

1. Apostasy,
2. Heresy,
3. Schism,
4. Simony,
5. Desecration of the Eucharist,
6. Physical force against the Pope,
7. Attempted sacramental absolution of a partner in adultery,
8. Ordination of a bishop without a Papal mandate (e.g. all bishops in the government-run Chinese Patriotic Church),
9. For non-electors present in the conclave, revelation of the details of the conclave,
10. Simoniacal provision of the Papal office,
11. Violation of the sacramental seal of confession by a priest or bishop, and
12. Procurement of a completed abortion.
Thriceaddict
30-05-2006, 03:28
You can write a letter of resignation to the catholic church and you'll be removed from their count, if that's what you want.
Hehe, no need. I was already unregistered when I stopped paying the 10 euros a year they ask for all kinds of stuff.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:30
5. Desecration of the Eucharist,

What exactly would one have to do to desecrate the Eucharist?

12. Procurement of a completed abortion.

Uh, what?
Contemplatina
30-05-2006, 03:31
I'm not Catholic, so I don't know how to desecrate a Eucharist, but Catholics don't even believe in birth control pills, or even condoms. So you can guess what they feel about abortion.
HotRodia
30-05-2006, 03:31
If you're talking Catholic baptism, just get yourself excommunicated. Call the Pope a big fat doody head, or something. There are twelve ways to be automatically excommunicated:

1. Apostasy,
2. Heresy,
3. Schism,
4. Simony,
5. Desecration of the Eucharist,
6. Physical force against the Pope,
7. Attempted sacramental absolution of a partner in adultery,
8. Ordination of a bishop without a Papal mandate (e.g. all bishops in the government-run Chinese Patriotic Church),
9. For non-electors present in the conclave, revelation of the details of the conclave,
10. Simoniacal provision of the Papal office,
11. Violation of the sacramental seal of confession by a priest or bishop, and
12. Procurement of a completed abortion.

See, this is why I don't answer these questions seriously. Telling someone how to get unbaptised for real is not something I'm inclined to do.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:33
I'm not Catholic, so I don't know how to desecrate a Eucharist, but Catholics don't even believe in birth control pills, or even condoms.

I read some blurb about them sorta having changed their minds about condoms. Don't know if it's for real.

So you can guess what they feel about abortion.

Procurement of a completed abortion. That's zany.
The Mindset
30-05-2006, 03:33
What exactly would one have to do to desecrate the Eucharist?



Uh, what?


Taken from Wikipedia. Source not stated so cannot be taken as authoritive. However, I feel that if number twelve is correct, it's a recent addition. As to how you could desecrate a Eucharist, you could stuff it up the priest's poopsie hole.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:34
As to how you could desecrate a Eucharist, you could stuff it up the priest's poopsie hole.

Now, that I know how to do!
The Mindset
30-05-2006, 03:36
Now, that I know how to do!
Priests don't really do it for me. Now, the military... I can understand why the USAmericans don't like fagtastic people such as myself tainting their red-blooded heroes.
Aqua Anu
30-05-2006, 03:36
No you can't be unbaptized, plain and simple. You can fall awaye, stop belving, be excomunicated, etc. and the spirt will leave you, and but it's not like there is a way to be unbaptized
Rubina
30-05-2006, 03:39
What exactly would one have to do to desecrate the Eucharist?Serve it with mustard and a side order of fries?
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:42
Priests don't really do it for me. Now, the military... I can understand why the USAmericans don't like fagtastic people such as myself tainting their red-blooded heroes.

But priests have all that guilt and shame built up. Well, unless they're Lutheran, in which case they're probably the queen who stole your trick.

Military, meh. The US military lacks snazzy uniforms. Now, the Russian military - it's no a coincidence they've spawned a humongous Eastern European porn genre.
Dependocracy
30-05-2006, 03:42
once you give up yourself to the Lord, there is no turning back...besides, what is wrong with you guys and making fun of this? it's a pretty serious issue...why would somebody want to be baptized then unbaptized? that's completely against God's will
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:43
Serve it with mustard and a side order of fries?

They are a bit a dry, so they could use condiments. I do believe Jesus wouldn't have minded his flesh to taste more than cardboard.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:45
once you give up yourself to the Lord, there is no turning back...besides, what is wrong with you guys and making fun of this? it's a pretty serious issue...

We don't need to take it seriously.

why would somebody want to be baptized then unbaptized? that's completely against God's will

Oh, noes.
Skaladora
30-05-2006, 03:47
Yes. It's called apostasy. It's very much like being excommunicated.... except instead of being shown the door, you're the one who's screaming "I quit!".

I'm planning on doing it myself this year. I'm fed up with the catholic's stupid dogmas, sexist and homophobic mindset of the church authorities, and their overall hypocrisy.
HotRodia
30-05-2006, 03:48
They are a bit a dry, so they could use condiments. I do believe Jesus wouldn't have minded his flesh to taste more than cardboard.

Actually, I've wanted them to switch from the wafers to something a bit more enjoyable for quite some time now. I'm not so sure we're honoring the J-man by consecrating little bad-tasting wheat-thins.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:49
Yes. It's called apostasy. It's very much like being excommunicated.... except instead of being shown the door, you're the one who's screaming "I quit!".

I'm planning on doing it myself this year. I'm fed up with the catholic's stupid dogmas, sexist and homophobic mindset of the church authorities, and their overall hypocrisy.

One needs to plan to do it?
Skaladora
30-05-2006, 03:51
once you give up yourself to the Lord, there is no turning back...besides, what is wrong with you guys and making fun of this? it's a pretty serious issue...why would somebody want to be baptized then unbaptized? that's completely against God's will
It's not about God's will, it's about OUR free will. And the free will of NOT being in a corrupt, selfish, hypocritical organisation pretending to do God's work and instead working for it's own political gain.
Skaladora
30-05-2006, 03:54
One needs to plan to do it?
Apostasy usually takes the form of a letter of "resignation" where you basically announce you have no faith in God and are an unbeliever.

I'm "planning" to do it because I have to actually get around to writing the damn letter and sending it to the local Chancellor of the archdiocese(or something) and since I'm a lazy fuck I keep putting it off :p
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:55
Actually, I've wanted them to switch from the wafers to something a bit more enjoyable for quite some time now. I'm not so sure we're honoring the J-man by consecrating little bad-tasting wheat-thins.

The orthodox churches tend to have pretty tasty, freshly baked bread. And the wine isn't the cheap-ass kind the Protestants and Catholics seem to use. You should do an excursion.
Fass
30-05-2006, 03:56
Apostasy usually takes the form of a letter of "resignation" where you basically announce you have no faith in God and are an unbeliever.

I'm "planning" to do it because I have to actually get around to writing the damn letter and sending it to the local Chancellor of the archdiocese(or something) and since I'm a lazy fuck I keep putting it off :p

E-mail it.
HotRodia
30-05-2006, 03:56
The orthodox churches tend to have pretty tasty, freshly baked bread. And the wine isn't the cheap-ass kind the Protestants and Catholics seem to use. You should do an excursion.

I should. It'll be interesting to see if the Orthodox church in my area has the same benefits.
Good Lifes
30-05-2006, 03:59
Baptism is a symbol. Like any symbol, it can have meaning or no meaning. If it has a meaning to you, great. If it has no meaning to you then it matters no more than words in the wind.
Layarteb
30-05-2006, 04:00
What, physically?

Otherwise, yeah. Just stop believing. That works just fine.

That's my route.
Fass
30-05-2006, 04:02
I should. It'll be interesting to see if the Orthodox church in my area has the same benefits.

Just try not to stare at the funny appearance of the priests. Oh, and the nuns don't seem to like being talked to, for some reason. And there's no such thing as giving an icon a kiss too much!
Skaladora
30-05-2006, 04:03
E-mail it.
Nah, I wanna make a statement. I've been considering writing a very, very long letter, with dozens of pages, rolling them and using that roll of sheets to sodomize our honorable cardinal, monsignor Marc Ouellet.

I'm still hesitant because of the probable prison sentence, though. I might go for just handing them the letter and verbally abusing them.
Fass
30-05-2006, 04:08
Nah, I wanna make a statement. I've been considering writing a very, very long letter, with dozens of pages, rolling them and using that roll of sheets to sodomize our honorable cardinal, monsignor Marc Ouellet.

I'm still hesitant because of the probable prison sentence, though. I might go for just handing them the letter and verbally abusing them.

Too drama queeny. You should just move on.
Skaladora
30-05-2006, 04:26
Too drama queeny. You should just move on.
I'll be as damn dramatic and as queeny as I want. I'm told so often that I don't look gay, that I need to be a little camp sometimes to remind them all what a fag I am.
Fass
30-05-2006, 04:28
I'll be as damn dramatic and as queeny as I want. I'm told so often that I don't look gay, that I need to be a little camp sometimes to remind them all what a fag I am.

But for something as, well, stupid as this? They don't deserve it.
Boofheads
30-05-2006, 04:28
Can they?

I'm trying to think of a reason why a person would want to be unbaptised. If you believed that the Christian baptism was legit, then I can't see why you would want to be unbaptised. However, if you don't believe in baptism, then I can't see why you'd feel a need to be unbaptised. Afterall, to people who don't believe in baptism, it's just a meaningless splashing of water on your head.
I'm a little confused.
Skaladora
30-05-2006, 04:35
But for something as, well, stupid as this? They don't deserve it.
Well, the bastards splashed water in my face when I was still a baby! The affront to my dignity! They MUST pay, and this will be my revenge. You know how uncomfortable cardinals are around gay people who aren't closeted and repressed by their guilt as they are.
Anti-Social Darwinism
30-05-2006, 05:28
Well, the bastards splashed water in my face when I was still a baby! The affront to my dignity! They MUST pay, and this will be my revenge. You know how uncomfortable cardinals are around gay people who aren't closeted and repressed by their guilt as they are.

Your parents were complicit in this. Are you making them pay as well?