NationStates Jolt Archive


For all the climatology based NSers

Not bad
30-05-2006, 02:04
Where is the climate going to be better after global warming erm...warms the globe. I want to invest in those places. So where are they?
Pride and Prejudice
30-05-2006, 02:10
Where is the climate going to be better after global warming erm...warms the globe. I want to invest in those places. So where are they?

I suppose I'm not qualified, but I'd say England. It'll get warmer... and it might start having blue sky for at least half the year....
Kyronea
30-05-2006, 02:50
Where is the climate going to be better after global warming erm...warms the globe. I want to invest in those places. So where are they?
I imagine Colorado will become a rather verdant, wet paradise. Or at least warmer and wetter. You could probably subsistance farm here for once.
Fass
30-05-2006, 02:52
What the hoohaa is "climatology-based" person?
Vetalia
30-05-2006, 02:57
You're better off investing in alternative energy; wind, solar, geothermal, and the rest of them are all in their Early Adopter phase of growth...they haven't even started to see their fastest growth which will likely start around 2008-2010 and continue until oil prices either collapse (highly unlikely) or the market has reached its peak level of saturation...which could be as late as the 2020's.

And that doesn't even include the growth in distributed generation, which will double the amount of alternative energy that can be safely integrated in to grid. There will likely be a second boom once that occurs. Don't invest in corn ethanol producers...invest in Iogen if you're interested in ethanol because cellulosic ethanol is viable but corn is not without heavy subsidies. Look in to biodiesel producers, small oil/gas explorers, and miscellaneous things like hydrogen, fuel cells, distributed generation, and polysilicon producers.

Although, if you're of a speculative bent, you could bet on electricity and similar contracts that are weather-based...high risk for high returns, but the slightest change could leave you burned. Betting on the weather is unwise due to the sheer number of variables involved, especially on a specific scale above general climatology.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-05-2006, 03:00
Where is the climate going to be better after global warming erm...warms the globe. I want to invest in those places. So where are they?

Wow. That's a really tough call.

But I'd keep an eye on Western Africa. *nod*
Gymoor Prime
30-05-2006, 04:07
I suppose I'm not qualified, but I'd say England. It'll get warmer... and it might start having blue sky for at least half the year....

Er, no. Global Warming (Climate Change is more accurate,) has a good chance of shutting down the Atlantic conveyor, and if it does then England will pretty much ice over.
Not bad
30-05-2006, 04:29
You're better off investing in alternative energy; wind, solar, geothermal, and the rest of them are all in their Early Adopter phase of growth...they haven't even started to see their fastest growth which will likely start around 2008-2010 and continue until oil prices either collapse (highly unlikely) or the market has reached its peak level of saturation...which could be as late as the 2020's.

And that doesn't even include the growth in distributed generation, which will double the amount of alternative energy that can be safely integrated in to grid. There will likely be a second boom once that occurs. Don't invest in corn ethanol producers...invest in Iogen if you're interested in ethanol because cellulosic ethanol is viable but corn is not without heavy subsidies. Look in to biodiesel producers, small oil/gas explorers, and miscellaneous things like hydrogen, fuel cells, distributed generation, and polysilicon producers.

Although, if you're of a speculative bent, you could bet on electricity and similar contracts that are weather-based...high risk for high returns, but the slightest change could leave you burned. Betting on the weather is unwise due to the sheer number of variables involved, especially on a specific scale above general climatology.

That all may be true but there is a reason they call it REAL estate.

You didnt mention any actual places with climates you listed what you believe might be good investments. If global warming gets going really well then any real estate in future good climate is a sure thing.

I want to know which areas which are now hexed with poor climate but will soon have much more desirable climates
Saipea
30-05-2006, 04:38
Why not make a giant Sea World (with what remains of the non-mercury-ridden aquatic life) where Florida was?
Not bad
30-05-2006, 04:46
Why not make a giant Sea World (with what remains of the non-mercury-ridden aquatic life) where Florida was?


Florida has good climate now and somewhat expensive real estate. Later it will be ravaged by the mothers of all hurricanes weekly due to global warming. This is exactly the opposite of what Im looking for.

Lunatic Goofballs may be right about Western Africa, I dont know. It is a little too far away and politically unstable for me though.

Is Colorado really supposed to become a lot less extreme?
The Coral Islands
30-05-2006, 04:50
I am all for stifling anthropogenic Climate Change but many parts of Canada actually stand to gain from it. This past Winter was a great example. The Polar Vortex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_vortex), a mass of cool air that usually resides over Canada was over Europe instead, hence all those frozen Polish people. If things continue the way they are going Canada will become more temperate while Europe freezes. This is especially important for the Far North in Canada. The Northwest Passage will open up to make a shortcut for global cargo shipment, and all our oil and diamonds up there will also be easier to reach.
Not bad
30-05-2006, 04:53
I am all for stifling anthropogenic Climate Change but many parts of Canada actually stand to gain from it. This past Winter was a great example. The Polar Vortex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_vortex), a mass of cool air that usually resides over Canada was over Europe instead, hence all those frozen Polish people. If things continue the way they are going Canada will become more temperate while Europe freezes. This is especially important for the Far North in Canada. The Northwest Passage will open up to make a shortcut for global cargo shipment, and all our oil and diamonds up there will also be easier to reach.


Do non Canadians have to be land immigrants to buy property in Canada?

Hmmm. my great uncle still has 1000 acres in the frozen tundra of North Dakota....
AB Again
30-05-2006, 04:54
Patagonia. Tierra del Fuego. Chad
The Coral Islands
30-05-2006, 04:56
Do non Canadians have to be land immigrants to buy property in Canada?

Hmmm. my great uncle still has 1000 acres in the frozen tundra of North Dakota....

Are you sure there's tundra in North Dakota? 'Cause I'd rather doubt it...

No, one does not have to be Canadian to buy property here.
Not bad
30-05-2006, 05:02
WooHooo!

No, NoDaks dont really have Tundra. But if you die in the winter you arent generally buried until spring because the ground is frozen so hard and so deep backhoes cant dig through unless a shack is built with giant kerosine "jet engine" heaters placed inside for days to thaw out the ground. It gets cold there too.
Not bad
30-05-2006, 05:04
Patagonia. Tierra del Fuego. Chad


Are these guesses or current predictions of climatologists?
AB Again
30-05-2006, 05:28
Are these guesses or current predictions of climatologists?

You pays your money and takes your choice.

The first two are fairly reliable predictions (it would be difficult for the weather to get worse) and for Chad it seems to be just as impossible to make the weather worse, but it just may be possible.
Not bad
30-05-2006, 05:43
You pays your money and takes your choice.

The first two are fairly reliable predictions (it would be difficult for the weather to get worse) and for Chad it seems to be just as impossible to make the weather worse, but it just may be possible.

See theres the rub. I want bad climates that are about to become good not hellish climates that are about to become a little less hellish.
Not bad
30-05-2006, 11:32
Is it possible that this aspect of global warming hasnt been studied enough or at least well documented enough? Where will people be migrating to?