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Yes. If you truly love someone for who they are then it shouldn't matter what their religion is.

As long as it didn't get in the way, I would. I'd rather go for a Christian, or Atheist/Agnostic.

Only if he wasn't very gung-ho about it. I can't stand people who try to convert me.

Pretty sure I will. I don't think too many people are both of my religions...

what does a Memorial/thank you thread on Veterans have to do with marrying someone from another religion?

Nah, I know what you mean.

I would marry the person I love, and if that person loves me. I wouldn't care about religion and I hope she doesn't either.

Of course I would (not that I have a religion anyway).

Only if he wasn't very gung-ho about it. I can't stand people who try to convert me.
Agreed.

Only if he wasn't very gung-ho about it. I can't stand people who try to convert me.

Yes, that's one requirement I would have.

I guess. It would depend on the person as well as the religion.

Yes, not doing so is on the same level as racism.

No. I'm far too cynical to have any significant respect for somebody who believes in (g/G)od(s).

I'd marry and Jew or a Christian...(Catholic or Protestant).

Anything else it just too far away from my own beleifs.

Yes, as long as we agreed on enough to not kill each other or ruin each other's lives.

Yes, not doing so is on the same level as racism.

Yes...religion and race are the same thing. So, from which race are Christians then? :rolleyes:

Pretty sure I will. I don't think too many people are both of my religions...

What are both of them?

What are both of them?

I respectfully refrain from answering that question.

Yes...religion and race are the same thing. So, from which race are Christians then? :rolleyes:

Aren't you the literal one.
Not marrying someone because of religion is the same as race in the sense that you wouldn't be marrying them because of personal prejudice.

Aren't you the literal one.
Not marrying someone because of religion is the same as race in the sense that you wouldn't be marrying them because of personal prejudice.

No. Religion is a very significant indication of somebody's character.

Aren't you the literal one.
Not marrying someone because of religion is the same as race in the sense that you wouldn't be marrying them because of personal prejudice.
Except that the cultural elements of the religion may cause conflict between the two. Let's not be so naive.

No. Religion is a very significant indication of somebody's character.

I don't think my religion reflects my character.

I don't think my religion reflects my character.
It means you are the sort of person who believes in the supernatural...

Yup, sure would. In fact, that is the plan for next April....

=)

I don't think my religion reflects my character.

Probably depends on how actively you practice/believe it, etc. Someone who converts to a new religion, for instance, probably is reflecting their character. Someone who is following a religion that their family has practiced since forever ago, maybe, maybe not. So in your case, sure.

It means you are the sort of person who believes in the supernatural...

I may believe in the supernatural, but that doesn't really reflect who I am.

Yup, sure would. In fact, that is the plan for next April....

=)


Awww... Yay!

I'm agnostic, so i would be pretty limited if i didn't open myself up to the possibility of marrying someone of another religion. I could never be with or even be friends with someone who forced their beliefs down my throat or kept telling me i was going to hell. I can get along just fine though with someone who believes in God or goes to church but respects my right not to.

Christians are from all races. There are White, Black, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, and Native American Christians. Religion and race are different.

Every religion has people from every race, there are no exceptions.

I would definatly. As someone once said ( I can't remember who)

" All religions are different paths leading to the same goal"

Christians are from all races. There are White, Black, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, and Native American Christians. Religion and race are different.

If it weren't, this would be the same as the "would you marry someone of another race" thread that was being very active this... (er... morning, my time) :D

Christians are from all races. There are White, Black, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, and Native American Christians. Religion and race are different.

I'd love to see the difference between;
- Somebody who hates Jewish people
- Somebody who hates Black people

Explain?
I'm sure the difference is huge, so huge that Hitler was blind to see it and hated them both equally!
But I'm sure hating someone's religion and prejudicing them is good.

I may believe in the supernatural, but that doesn't really reflect who I am.

Sure it does. You believe in the supernatural, whilst there are others who do not.

Sure it does. You believe in the supernatural, whilst there are others who do not.

That makes it a trait, but not a full personality, which is what I think Kuli is trying to get at.

Yep. The woman I plan to marry some day is agnostic/atheist, depending on her mood. :p
I, as a spiritual sort of person, accept her beliefs, and don't try to convert her. :) Mind you, I don't try to convert anyone... if I have, it's an accident. :p

That makes it a trait, but not a full personality, which is what I think Kuli is trying to get at.
Yes, but I was talking about character.

Sure it does. You believe in the supernatural, whilst there are others who do not.

So? That hardly makes up the total of my character. There's much much more to me that my belief in the supernatural. I would marry someone from anothe religion and/or race if I truly loved her and if she felt the same. If two people love one another, then it shouldn't matter what their religion or race is.

So? That hardly makes up the total of my character. There's much much more to me that my belief in the supernatural. I would marry someone from anothe religion and/or race if I truly loved her and if she felt the same. If two people love one another, then it shouldn't matter what their religion or race is.

The point was not that religion is the entirety of the definition of your character; it is, however, a relatively important feature of your character.

What I am saying is that race and religion are not comparable in such a situation--race is not a personal choice, for starters.

That is your opinion. I was not debating that.

Yes, but I was talking about character.

Typically the same (or close enough), colloquially, so you'd probably better define character...

I don't plan on marrying at all.

However, if I were too, religion wouldn't be a problem, most likely. My first love was a jewish girl, my current girl is a wiccan, I'm an athiest. Seems to not be a problem, usually.

Oops. I just voted 'yes', then remembered I'm married already. So I guess, yes, hypothetically. Yeah, hypothetically.

Typically the same (or close enough), colloquially, so you'd probably better define character...

"A symbol used in secret writing; a cipher or code"... what do you think I mean? "A description of a person's attributes, traits, or abilities" seems to fit rather nicely, don't you think?

The point was not that religion is the entirety of the definition of your character; it is, however, a relatively important feature of your character.

What I am saying is that race and religion are not comparable in such a situation--race is not a personal choice, for starters.

That is your opinion. I was not debating that.

I still don't think religion is a major part of my character. It has a part, but not an important one in my opinion.

"A symbol used in secret writing; a cipher or code"... what do you think I mean? "A description of a person's attributes, traits, or abilities" seems to fit rather nicely, don't you think?

1) :rolleyes:
2) Works the same as personality, colloquially, which makes Kuli's response (about it being part, but not an important one) relevant.

However, yes, it says more about a person's character/personality/whatever you want to call it than the person's race.

I still don't think religion is a major part of my character. It has a part, but not an important one in my opinion.

If your religion is not important to you, then I say you are not (deeply) religious.

*jumps on the "Agree with Terrorist Cakes" bandwagon*

If your religion is not important to you, then I say you are not (deeply) religious.

Bullseye! I'm not deeply religious.

If you're religion does not completely change who you are, it's not quite a devoted religion.

Bullseye! I'm not deeply religious.

Perhaps I ought to have clarified at the beginning...a serious commitment to religion is a significant indication of character.

So long as she was flexible enough in her faith, then absolutely.

I'd love to see the difference between;
- Somebody who hates Jewish people
- Somebody who hates Black people

Explain?
I'm sure the difference is huge, so huge that Hitler was blind to see it and hated them both equally!
But I'm sure hating someone's religion and prejudicing them is good.
The argument is not that about hating any group of people it is that some people don't want to get married to a person with certain philosophies. I mean, it is not insane for a person who is strongly left-wing to not want to marry someone strongly right-wing is it? They might have a lot in common in other aspects of their personality but when it comes to working together towards common goals they will have massive conflicts, especially child-rearing.

The same can be true with different religions, a Hindu and a Christian might have a similar conflict because they might see each others religions to be incompatible to both be passed on to their children. People do often want to pass on their viewpoints or at least part of their viewpoints on to their children and different philosophies causes problems which can be major when it comes down to certain activities and such.

If you're religion does not completely change who you are, it's not quite a devoted religion.

What if you changed your religion to fit with who you are?
Oh! Religious dissonance! I hereby claim credit for a new psych term! I will be immortalized in psych textbooks! I will... *is muffled by the nice men in white jackets*

What if you changed your religion to fit with who you are?
Oh! Religious dissonance! I hereby claim credit for a new psych term! I will be immortalized in psych textbooks! I will... *is muffled by the nice men in white jackets*

"Thank god we got her in time. Get the straight-jacket! And get her meds!"

"Thank god we got her in time. Get the straight-jacket! And get her meds!"

Uh-oh, didn't mean to hijack the thread with that comment... :p

Uh-oh, didn't mean to hijack the thread with that comment... :p

Don't worry, I'll get it back on track. With the whole religion thing. I'd even convert to another religion in order to marry a woman whom I truly loved and wanted to be with. That is, if I wasn't allowed to unless I was the same religion as she.

Don't worry, I'll get it back on track. With the whole religion thing. I'd even convert to another religion in order to marry a woman whom I truly loved and wanted to be with. That is, if I wasn't allowed to unless I was the same religion as she.

So, that tells me how you would answer a question related to the one I'm about to ask. However, the question I'm about to ask is:
If you are religious, and the person is religious, which religion would you marry under (or what church/temple/synagogue/etc. would you marry in, etc., or would you find a different solution)?

My answer to my own question is that either I'd have the ceremony in a non-religious setting, or I'd have two ceremonies! Although the second one would probably cause quite a bit of stress....

So, that tells me how you would answer a question related to the one I'm about to ask. However, the question I'm about to ask is:
If you are religious, and the person is religious, which religion would you marry under (or what church/temple/synagogue/etc. would you marry in, etc., or would you find a different solution)?

My answer to my own question is that either I'd have the ceremony in a non-religious setting, or I'd have two ceremonies! Although the second one would probably cause quite a bit of stress....

I'd go with whatever the other wanted. I don't paticularly care for the ceremony anyways...

So, that tells me how you would answer a question related to the one I'm about to ask. However, the question I'm about to ask is:
If you are religious, and the person is religious, which religion would you marry under (or what church/temple/synagogue/etc. would you marry in, etc., or would you find a different solution)?

My answer to my own question is that either I'd have the ceremony in a non-religious setting, or I'd have two ceremonies! Although the second one would probably cause quite a bit of stress....

I'm not very religious and I'd leave it up to the woman I'm marrying. If she's Muslim and wants it done however Muslims do it, then fine. If she wants to do a Christian ceremony, then fine. I'll leave it up to her.

Only if he wasn't very gung-ho about it. I can't stand people who try to convert me.

Yes, as long as we agreed on enough to not kill each other or ruin each other's lives.

Yep, these two just about sum up my view on the matter.

On a different note...

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Gah!

How does this question work exactly if you are, say, agnostic or even atheist? Could this question even apply to that situation? As an agnostic/soft atheist myself, I wouldn't really see a problem because I tend to avoid the issue of religion altogether and rather reserve a viewpoint of casual neutral observation. However, if the person was, say, a fanatic of said religion it... would... well... cause a problem.

Yep, these two just about sum up my view on the matter.

On a different note...

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Gah!

What exactly did you want with my avatar? O_-?

No, I will not marry anybody other than a good traditional Christian woman.

No, I will not marry anybody other than a good traditional Christian woman.

Why not? Not that I'm against your stance. I'm just curious.

As long as they realize that we're not having a religious wedding and our kids aren't being raised religious and accept that fact.

I can't stand religious people, so no.

Why not? Not that I'm against your stance. I'm just curious.
Because our God is the true God. Anybody who believes in other gods or no gods have no place in my home.

Because our God is the true God. Anybody who believes in other gods or no gods have no place in my home.

Well, Muslims and Jews believe in one God.

I can't take religious people seriously for extended periods of time if they're supposed to be anything other than friends. I've tried dating religious guys, but it just gets annoying in the end. Sure, I can shag them, but I can't imagine marrying anyone religious. When we got kids, I wouldn't be able to stand if he tried to indoctrinate them, and I just simply don't believe I'd be able to respect the supernatural.

It doesn't really matter what religion it is. Then again, if I fell in love, love with them, who knows what I might be able to overlook...

I would definitely not. The divorce rate is like 50% as it is. Even if they are open-minded, they are still attached to their religion nd that will cause unnecessary tension. If I get married, I want it to last. Besides, there are plenty of suitable partners in my own religion.

No, I will not marry anybody other than a good traditional Christian woman.

What about an untraditional Christian woman? She'd still be following your god...

Why not?

did
no big deal

Well, Muslims and Jews believe in one God.
But they do not believe in MY God.

What about an untraditional Christian woman? She'd still be following your god...
No. That kind of people only claim to be Christian. They are the ones destroying and blaspheming God with their new-age thoughts that they claim to be Christianity.

But they do not believe in MY God.

What do you mean? Christians, Jews, and Muslims believe in the same God. They just have different names for it.

No. That kind of people only claim to be Christian. They are the ones destroying and blaspheming God with their new-age thoughts that they claim to be Christianity.

:confused: Exactly how?

What exactly did you want with my avatar? O_-?

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I'm sorta athiest, but if I met a person who was Christian, Muslim, Budhist, whatever and they were amazing/hot and stuff, then fuck yes, I would definitely marry that person.

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Ah, of course...yeah...I guess I sorta do a bit of following...^_^;; Can you blame me though? :p

Ah, of course...yeah...I guess I sorta do a bit of following...^_^;; Can you blame me though? :p

Yes. *tries to keep a straight face. fails*

So, that tells me how you would answer a question related to the one I'm about to ask. However, the question I'm about to ask is:
If you are religious, and the person is religious, which religion would you marry under (or what church/temple/synagogue/etc. would you marry in, etc., or would you find a different solution)?

In my case, this isn't an issue, since I am religious and he is not. We're going to try and get one of my old (more open-minded) theology profs to officiate, because both my fiance and I have a great deal of respect for him. I'm not a member of any particular denomination, and we aren't actually having an in-church wedding.

I have heard of weddings in which two ceremonies are essentially combined into one, however. For instance, I have heard of weddings in which both a rabbi and a Christian minister officiated, and the important parts of both ceremonies were incorporated.

I would definitely not. The divorce rate is like 50% as it is. Even if they are open-minded, they are still attached to their religion nd that will cause unnecessary tension. If I get married, I want it to last. Besides, there are plenty of suitable partners in my own religion.

I've been with my fiance for almost five years now and our religious differences haven't caused any unnecessary tension.

If they are Christian, they must convert out of it. Otherwise, they can stay in their religion. Although I prefer them become Jewish, Muslim, or atheist.

Well, they would have to be of a different religion (specifically back-country Mormon) as I'm already married, but hypothetically - yes. And yes, that does mean exactly what it implies - I"m not very strong in my faith.

If they are Christian, they must convert out of it. Otherwise, they can stay in their religion. Although I prefer them become Jewish, Muslim, or atheist.

What exactly is ok about Judaism and Islam that isn't ok about Christianity?

Well, they would have to be of a different religion (specifically back-country Mormon) as I'm already married, but hypothetically - yes. And yes, that does mean exactly what it implies - I"m not very strong in my faith.

I would think that refusing to marry outside of one's faith actually expresses a lack of faith - not a strength of it. If someone needs his spouse/children/parents/coworkers/etc. to back up his faith by believing just as you do, I would suggest that his faith is rather weak.

No.

ETA: The Bible forbids marriages with non-beleivers.

I would prefer to marry another Catholic, but a Christian would do fine. I really can't see myself marrying a hindu or Muslium.