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I'm taking an IB course next year,namely Higher Level IB Drawing and Painting(Yes,all those capitals are necessary:D ).Anyways,this course requires extensive summer research in various styles,art movements and artists.All of it my choice.

I personally like Surrealism,Futurism,Russian Avantgarde,Urban graffiti and Various propoganda styles like Socialist Realism and Chinese Communist propoganda(I don't know why,the fantasy element in them is appealing to me or something.Mabye it's cause I used to be a communist).

Pretty much all modern styles it seems.

So...got any suggestions for some interesting styles I could explore?

I like the ones you already picked, but for the hell of it, pop art!

I like the ones you already picked, but for the hell of it, pop art!

Heh,many lols.Pop art...I may do.

Personally, I hate IB as a program. All the IB students I've ever known (and I've known quite a few) have been socialists. (the 2nd lowest form of life on earth, only devoutly religious folk are lower) Personally, I detest surrealism and such and prefer the painting of Van Eyck, Bosch, Duerer and Brughel. (I know two of them regularly used religion as inspiration but their work is absolutely stunning) In general, I love the humanist theme to both classical and renaissance art. The sculpture of the two periods is amazing.

Personally, I hate IB as a program. All the IB students I've ever known (and I've known quite a few) have been socialists. (the 2nd lowest form of life on earth, only devoutly religious folk are lower) Personally, I detest surrealism and such and prefer the painting of Van Eyck, Bosch, Duerer and Brughel. (I know two of them regularly used religion as inspiration but their work is absolutely stunning) In general, I love the humanist theme to both classical and renaissance art. The sculpture of the two periods is amazing.

Thank you for insulting pretty much what I am.I lean towards socialism,fairly interested in religion,am an IB student and like surrealism.I would shrug if you could see me.

Hmm,I'll check those guys out.It seems you're more into the traditional art styles.I'll have to do those eventually,since I have to be diverse with my exploration.

How about Pablo Picasso style figures like in "Guernica"?

How about Pablo Picasso style figures like in "Guernica"?


Is that the one where everything is thrown about and looks it's melting and suffering?The one that's based on his expierences in the Spanish civil war or something,right?

That one's fairly interesting.I personally don't like Picasso,but he seems to be popular,so I might have to look at his art.Besides,I'll be spending the summer in London,so all the major post modernist styles will probably be in the London muesems.

I didn't really mean to completely insult, it's just that I heartily disagree with the worldview most IBers hold: cooperation, internationalism, social democracy, etc. I thought you said you could pick the styles you studied, or is it just within a certain section (as in you pick one or two "chapters" and the rest are standardized according to program?)

(Maybe my worldview is a bit slanted, I'm a Biology/Chemistry major and went to a private military high school, the voulntary non-punishment kind, and my first year of university was at Virginia Military Institute, so maybe my worldview is a bit too darwinian and aggressive)

And yes Anadyr, that is Guernica, an anti-war piece from the spanish civil war. Not sure exactly which year though. If you're into the spanish civil war, you might want to visit Barcelona's military museum, they have an entire wing devoted to the war, pretty interesting.

Is that the one where everything is thrown about and looks it's melting and suffering?The one that's based on his expierences in the Spanish civil war or something,right?

That one's fairly interesting.I personally don't like Picasso,but he seems to be popular,so I might have to look at his art.Besides,I'll be spending the summer in London,so all the major post modernist styles will probably be in the London muesems.

Got a picture:Guernica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PicassoGuernica.jpg). I used to think Picasso's work wasn't very good as well until I studied it for a GCSE unit, when you really take it in you can see how well done it is, and how effectively it conveys utter destruction and agony.

I didn't really mean to completely insult, it's just that I heartily disagree with the worldview most IBers hold: cooperation, internationalism, social democracy, etc. I thought you said you could pick the styles you studied, or is it just within a certain section (as in you pick one or two "chapters" and the rest are standardized according to program?)

(Maybe my worldview is a bit slanted, I'm a Biology/Chemistry major and went to a private military high school, the voulntary non-punishment kind, and my first year of university was at Virginia Military Institute, so maybe my worldview is a bit too darwinian and aggressive)

And yes Anadyr, that is Guernica, an anti-war piece from the spanish civil war. Not sure exactly which year though. If you're into the spanish civil war, you might want to visit Barcelona's military museum, they have an entire wing devoted to the war, pretty interesting.

No,I pretty much choose whatever styles I want to explore,though being diverse is encouraged.Also,comparing or meshing styles is almost compulsory,since almost everyone does it.I have to record it all in a journal,though,which looks like it's going to be fairly monumental and very boring task...

Well,I actually knew a kid kind of like you in my school...He's going to the Naval academy or something.He's also republican...Say,your name doesn't happen to be Doug,does it?:p

I've actually been to Barcelona many,many times.Unfortunately,I didn't go to that muesuem,as my family probably wouldn't appreciate it.

I did see the Gaudi park,though...That was quite creative,in my opinion,of him,since it was only intended to be another suburb of Barcelona.

De Stijl, Fauvism, Constructivism, Expressionism, Dada

Of all those, you'd probably be most interested in Constructivism.

Oh, I'm not a republican, I'm an anarcho-capitalist. Anyway, is Gaudi where there is all the sculpture and the giant salamander sculpture? The museum is amazing, it overlooks the port (it used to be a fortress with cannon emplacements to defend the port) and is, basically, a giant citadel... very impressive sight. It has examples of weapons from nearly every era imaginable. The site it's now on used to be a roman fort, so they have examples of ancient greek and roman weapons (original excavations, not replicas), goth and vandal weapons, medieval swords armor and halderberds, scythed stirrups from Ghengis Khan's armies, etc. They have collections of just about any firearm you can imagine has ever been used (I was impressed to see a kentucky longrifle from the revolutionary war among a collection of rifles used by british longriflemen during the napoleanic wars) Samurai weapons can even be found there, very very impressive collection. If ever I were to come across an enormous sum of money, I'd spend it on a collection like that.

You could always go with Diego Rivera.

I didn't really mean to completely insult, it's just that I heartily disagree with the worldview most IBers hold: cooperation, internationalism, social democracy, etc. I thought you said you could pick the styles you studied, or is it just within a certain section (as in you pick one or two "chapters" and the rest are standardized according to program?)

Social democracy? Didn't you just say it was socialists you hated? Also, what's your view on globalism?

And the great classical and renaissance painters are amazing.

You could always go with Diego Rivera.

Is that Frida Kahlo's husband?Or am I confusing him with someone else?

If that is him,I personally have never seen his work,but I've heard of him.

Want to be taxed until your rectum bleeds?

Want to live in a socialist country without the stigma of being a "leftist extremeist"?

Tired of small, efficient government?

Think it's time for an enormous, unwieldy welfare state?

Then SOCIAL DEMOCRACY is for you!

That's my thing against social democracy, and by globalism you refer to what? Globalization? Corporate empire? what?

Oh, I'm not a republican, I'm an anarcho-capitalist. Anyway, is Gaudi where there is all the sculpture and the giant salamander sculpture? The museum is amazing, it overlooks the port (it used to be a fortress with cannon emplacements to defend the port) and is, basically, a giant citadel... very impressive sight. It has examples of weapons from nearly every era imaginable. The site it's now on used to be a roman fort, so they have examples of ancient greek and roman weapons (original excavations, not replicas), goth and vandal weapons, medieval swords armor and halderberds, scythed stirrups from Ghengis Khan's armies, etc. They have collections of just about any firearm you can imagine has ever been used (I was impressed to see a kentucky longrifle from the revolutionary war among a collection of rifles used by british longriflemen during the napoleanic wars) Samurai weapons can even be found there, very very impressive collection. If ever I were to come across an enormous sum of money, I'd spend it on a collection like that.

Yup,Gaudi is the place with the salamander sculpture.

I see both you and I share a military weapons fetish.I collect swords,mostly,but I have a spanish pistol,from sometime during the 1700's,I beleive.Unfortunately,they're all replicas.Except one sword which I have,which is supposedly a real weapon that was used by Tibetan warrior monks.I doubt it,because of the price he sold it to me,but it still looks amazing.

You fence? (Sport fencing, not SCA historical fencing) It really brings the whole weapons fetish to a new level. I, unfortunately, don't have the money to spend on a collection of replica historical weapons (I'll wait for the real thing, though it'll probablly cost me an arm and a leg) Although I (my family) does have an extensive collection of REAL weapons. I call it the "Arsenal of Freedom" and no, it's not for hunting, dad's a cop.

You fence? (Sport fencing, not SCA historical fencing) It really brings the whole weapons fetish to a new level. I, unfortunately, don't have the money to spend on a collection of replica historical weapons (I'll wait for the real thing, though it'll probablly cost me an arm and a leg) Although I (my family) does have an extensive collection of REAL weapons. I call it the "Arsenal of Freedom" and no, it's not for hunting, dad's a cop.

Nope.Interested in trying...It's all the way across the city,though...The fencing club,I mean.

Though I already have enough people calling me a homosexual for some reason.You know,being interested in art,having long hair,speaking like a literate person,not really being into hardcore jock-style sports...It's not like I act like a stereotypical homosexual in anyway other than those last things,though.Ah,oh well.At least I know myself.

'Arsenal of Freedom'?:D Sorry,no offense,but that's just funny.

Thank you for insulting pretty much what I am.I lean towards socialism,fairly interested in religion,am an IB student and like surrealism.I would shrug if you could see me.

Hmm,I'll check those guys out.It seems you're more into the traditional art styles.I'll have to do those eventually,since I have to be diverse with my exploration.

Bosch is pretty surreal, check out his "Garden of Earthly Delights".

I don't know about the 1B thing, but I think that all types of art are at least worth a look, if only so you know where we came from. I'm not much into abstract, I find it a somewhat pretentious, more like decoration than real art. Picasso is strange, some very good work, some work that seems like he's laughing at people's pretentions.

Oh yes, the arsenal of freedom is an incredible sight to behold. She contains a benelli M4 tactical shotgun, 2 M4 carbines, an MP5A2, sundry glock pistols, a Steyr Scout, an M1A (semi-auto M14), and a few other pistols. Yeah, it's a little excessive, but boy will it be worth it when the zombies come! Anyway, fencing isn't a dainty sport, whoever thinks dressing in armor (and that's what the white jacket and mesh mask are... armor) and swordfighting (they are technically called foils, epees, and sabers, but whatever) is dainty/gay needs a reality check. Anyway, one of the greatest warriors of all time was gay (or at least bi) and Alexander the Great seemed to do okay for himself.

Oh,IB is an educational program.I can't really explain it breifly here,but I'll give you a link that'll help if you really want to know.

www.ibo.org

I think most good art is surreal,and most good artists are surreal themslves.

Oh yes, the arsenal of freedom is an incredible sight to behold. She contains a benelli M4 tactical shotgun, 2 M4 carbines, an MP5A2, sundry glock pistols, a Steyr Scout, an M1A (semi-auto M14), and a few other pistols. Yeah, it's a little excessive, but boy will it be worth it when the zombies come! Anyway, fencing isn't a dainty sport, whoever thinks dressing in armor (and that's what the white jacket and mesh mask are... armor) and swordfighting (they are technically called foils, epees, and sabers, but whatever) is dainty/gay needs a reality check. Anyway, one of the greatest warriors of all time was gay (or at least bi) and Alexander the Great seemed to do okay for himself.

Is that uniform actually necessary?Oi,must be uncomfortable,no?

I'm not saying that gays/bis aren't good fighters.It's just being labelled something you're not that's annoying.

I mean,if someone told you constantly you had blue eyes(assuming you had non-blue eyes),you'd get annoyed,because you know it's not true.

Reply, but then again I've always been flattered when accused of being gay by other guys. Most macho guys who use gay as an insult are covering for something... I remember many a story of football players from my high school and their "exploits" together.

i think you should study the cave paintings at lascaux, the petroglyphs of the canyon de chelly, the pottery designs of acoma pueblo, and the scrimshaw of new england whalers.

Hehe,too true.I don't doubt some of those stories.

I wonder what makes certain people gay,though.It's not a psychology thing,since there's no common link between gays and their psychologies it seems,or a decrease in testosterone,since I've seen some very testosterone-filled gay men and some straight men in desperate of some of the male mojo hormone.

I may actually try fencing,since my other favorite sport,Archery and Marksmanship,is not availible here.Well,it is,but like fencing,it's all the way across the city,and you have to buy your own equipment.

i think you should study the cave paintings at lascaux, the petroglyphs of the canyon de chelly, the pottery designs of acoma pueblo, and the scrimshaw of new england whalers.

Are those availible online?:confused: Never heard of any of those things.

Anadyr, drop by the don't piss and tell topic in the general forum for an idea of what life awaits you in college.

Will do.But for now,I've got to head to bed.I got school tommorow,and I've been wearing nothing but boxers for the past 15 minutes.

It's getting pretty late,so... catch you around.I'm giving you a thumbs up right now.

Are those availible online?:confused: Never heard of any of those things.
put LASCAUX into the image search on google. the paintings are amazing.