NationStates Jolt Archive

I don't, but I have another method. I just go to the library, take out CDs, and then burn them at home and then return the original copy. I don't download because I'm afraid of getting viruses and such. However, if it's a CD by an obscure band or a band that's not very famous, I will buy the CD to demonstrate my support for them. So, I would buy the Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, or The Clash CD, but I will most certainly burn the Rolling Stones or Beatles CD.

You can't get viruses through the common media files.

And, Bittorrent is where it's at, coupled sometimes with gnutella.

Yup. Either old or hard to find, or stuff I've seen in the music store but don't know yet if I'll like enough to buy the CD.

Im sorry the clash are hard to find? Meh. I download, and alot too. Kazaa baby.

Yes, stuff by bands i don't like enough to buy the CD's, bands where i only like a few of their songs. I buy the CD's of the bands i like. I have never had any problem with viruses, it usually depends on what program you use. I use Morpheus and have never had issues.

I don't, but I have another method. I just go to the library, take out CDs, and then burn them at home and then return the original copy. I don't download because I'm afraid of getting viruses and such. However, if it's a CD by an obscure band or a band that's not very famous, I will buy the CD to demonstrate my support for them. So, I would buy the Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, or The Clash CD, but I will most certainly burn the Rolling Stones or Beatles CD.
Dude -- DK, Black Flag and The Clash aren't exactly obscure. You really want to support a band, go to a concert and pay $15 for the CD the group's selling. Trust me, those three bands are doing fine financially. Find a used CD shop while you're at it. Half price or less and you're not paying the record company.

Yup, Limewire :D Unless i like alot of songs on a cd then ill shell out the $30 >.< but mostly downloading, good way to get underground music too, havent seen cds for at least half the bands i listen to down here lol :headbang:

Those are not obscure bands. Jurassic 5 is more obscure than they are.

I love these threads.

Bah, I only like one or two of your songs so I am going to steal your work. You dont mind do you?

Awesome logic.

Bah, I only like one or two of your songs so I am going to steal your work. You dont mind do you?

Awesome logic.

Why would anyone steal stuff they didn't like?

I download things, if they're on the RIAA Radar (http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/search.asp)

I just download pr0n. Lots of pr0n.






I mean, lots of pr0n.

I just download pr0n. Lots of pr0n.






I mean, lots of pr0n.
Why do you think I just bought my three new 250 gb hdds?

Why do you think I just bought my three new 250 gb hdds?

Heh.

And no, I don't download, because my fascist university doesn't allow it. Understandable, but annoying.

Why would anyone steal stuff they didn't like?

Why would anyone steal...period. Get a fucking job.

Do I download? Yes, almost every day and I wipe and flush when I'm done. :D

Liasia']Im sorry the clash are hard to find? Meh. I download, and alot too. Kazaa baby.
No, easy to find, but I respect them a lot, so I bought The Clash, US version.

Dude -- DK, Black Flag and The Clash aren't exactly obscure. You really want to support a band, go to a concert and pay $15 for the CD the group's selling. Trust me, those three bands are doing fine financially. Find a used CD shop while you're at it. Half price or less and you're not paying the record company.
I know they are pretty famous, but not as famous as they should be, methinks, so in all fairness they are semifamous.

I love these threads.

Bah, I only like one or two of your songs so I am going to steal your work. You dont mind do you?

Awesome logic.
Hey, shoot me:p
Those are not obscure bands. Jurassic 5 is more obscure than they are.
I know they aren't obscure, Jurassic 5 is definetely more famous, though, and they suck to boot.

Why would anyone steal...period. Get a fucking job.

Why do you assume "download" means "steal"? Plenty of people get legal downloads.

Nope, I don't. My brother does it for me. :p
I just drop by with my external harddrive from time to time.

Heh.

And no, I don't download, because my fascist university doesn't allow it. Understandable, but annoying.
Univ name? (If it is in the US I have delt with most of them)

Nope, I don't. My brother does it for me. :p
I just drop by with my external harddrive from time to time.
Lucky!

I only download songs to CDs I have previously bought and lost, which is legal, for buying a CD is just a lifetime license to have that music, and they're nice enough to give you a copy.

Univ name? (If it is in the US I have delt with most of them)

NUIM. Tis an Irish one.

Why do you assume "download" means "steal"? Plenty of people get legal downloads.

Reading through this thread and the million others on the internet.

Reading through this thread and the million others on the internet.

Tis anecdotal at best. Meanwhile... (http://www.europeantechwire.com/etw/2005/07/ifpi_legal_musi.html)

I hate music stores...so yeah...

I hate music stores...so yeah...
Is it the high prices or the clerks who know nothing about music (like at most big stores that have a CD section)?

I contest the idea that downloading, illegally, is somehow "stealing." I've only bought one CD in my entire life, and that was prior to obtaining the internet. I would not spend money on music, regardless of whether or not I had the internet. What, exactly, am I stealing? The music companies would not get my money either way - I'm not "stealing" revenue, nor am I stealing the songs themselves because stealing implies a loss of some kind - I'm taking copies, not taking the actual song.

I download. Lots. Always have, always will. I've been threatened by the MPAA on multiple occasions with American laws. I laughed. Lots. Always have, always will.

All music should be free. Merchandising and concert tickets should not.

Is it the high prices or the clerks who know nothing about music (like at most big stores that have a CD section)?

Eh, Well...My money could be going to videogames...and the guys at Gamestop do tend to know more about what they're selling...And I just sorta hate the mall in general...too many people...

yeh i download. usually use limewire. haven't done so much recently but i used to download tonnes of music, films and tv series.

I download lots. This webpage for example, I just downloaded that...

Oh you mean media downloads?

I download pr0n. a whole lotta pr0n. but now I'm outta HDD space. :(

All music should be free. Merchandising and concert tickets should not.

I really think that is up to the artist(s), and not up to you to decide.

i always seem to end up disappointed when i try to dl stuff, so i tend not to bother these days after years of not finding what i want or ending up with those shitty fake songs full of static, or not being able to actually get the whole album (and i like having full albums or not at all... i'm weird :P)

bittorrent also takes up too much of my bandwidth (ie all of it) to use during the day, and i can't sleep with my computer on at night. if i could really be bothered i'd build a new computer to stick in another room to dl with BT all day, or a silent one to dl at night, but i'm really not that fussed... i like some of the mistique that goes with getting new CDs :)

Yes, because buying is partially impossible and way too expensive

Yes. In the last week I downloaded Series 2 Episodes 1-5 of Lost (now deleted), a Coheed & Cambria discography (now deleted), and a Cooper Temple Clause album (not yet deleted, I'm still considering if it's worth buying). Legal implications don't bother me at all. I still buy cds, although I've not bought one for about a month now. Most music I buy is on vinyl.

i always seem to end up disappointed when i try to dl stuff, so i tend not to bother these days after years of not finding what i want or ending up with those shitty fake songs full of static, or not being able to actually get the whole album (and i like having full albums or not at all... i'm weird :P)

bittorrent also takes up too much of my bandwidth (ie all of it) to use during the day, and i can't sleep with my computer on at night. if i could really be bothered i'd build a new computer to stick in another room to dl with BT all day, or a silent one to dl at night, but i'm really not that fussed... i like some of the mistique that goes with getting new CDs :)Like with so many things in life, a little knowledge goes a long way. If you need to limit your bandwith, and your P2P client of choice isn't good at it, I suggest you use NetLimiter or similar. If you can't sleep with your PC on, turn it off. If your computer gets sluggish when you're running a P2P client, use a less resource heavy client, or one that lets you define the HW usage.

Most P2P sites are full of people willing to talk you through your problems.

I have downloaded a massive amount of stuff, and tend to do so very intensely in periods. Currently, there's not much I'm after, so therefore I don't download things too often.

i always seem to end up disappointed when i try to dl stuff, so i tend not to bother these days after years of not finding what i want or ending up with those shitty fake songs full of static, or not being able to actually get the whole album (and i like having full albums or not at all... i'm weird :P)
I know that feeling. Never have bought/downloaded a single in my life.

I download each and every time I look at a webpage. Otherwise I'd see nothing but my browsers error message.

Yes. In the last week I downloaded Series 2 Episodes 1-5 of Lost (now deleted), a Coheed & Cambria discography (now deleted), and a Cooper Temple Clause album (not yet deleted, I'm still considering if it's worth buying). Legal implications don't bother me at all. I still buy cds, although I've not bought one for about a month now. Most music I buy is on vinyl.

Why not just watch it on something like peekvid?

I do lots of downloads. Sky movies by broadband, the occasional music track from HMV, operating systems (Kubuntu is my current favourite) and free music off obscure artist's homepages.

What's illegal about that?

Yeah, but usually albums I really want to hear, but can't find anywhere else - i'd want to try them before paying to have them shipped over from the US and waiting 4 weeks or so for delivery.

I don't, but I have another method. I just go to the library, take out CDs, and then burn them at home and then return the original copy. I don't download because I'm afraid of getting viruses and such. However, if it's a CD by an obscure band or a band that's not very famous, I will buy the CD to demonstrate my support for them. So, I would buy the Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, or The Clash CD, but I will most certainly burn the Rolling Stones or Beatles CD.
I download frequently, particularly movies. If I really like an artist or a movie I will purchase it, but otherwise I will download it. I consider $18 for a CD to be utter bullshit, and I have no problem with ripping off any label greedy enough to charge that much. :)

http://www.ubuntu.com- there should be a new version on Thursday.

BitTorrent for me, most trackers have their own controls.

http://www.ubuntu.com- there should be a new version on Thursday.Will it be one that works on my computer? Unlike the current one (which hangs on loading the hotplug module)?

Will it be one that works on my computer? Unlike the current one (which hangs on loading the hotplug module)?

I can tell you that once I finish measuring a piece of string.

yes, because its legal where I live.

If you pay the artists...fine


If the artists are not getting paid...then that is theft.

End of story.

However it does not excuse the extreme lenghts the RIAA and BPI have gone to secure damages.

As it is many of the new bands (look at the Artic Monkeys as a case study) are bypassing the record companies...good!!!

http://www.ubuntu.com- there should be a new version on Thursday.
I'm already running Dapper ;)

If you pay the artists...fine
If the artists are not getting paid...then that is theft.

Technically it is not. The one offering the upload is however giving away material he is not allowed to distribute; making his (or her) actions criminal.

If the downloading is considered a crime depends on the country. Of course, knowingly acquiring goods you know the distributor is not allowed to distribute is already dodgy.

(Note: the above only applies to the distribution of copyrighted material without permission. Things like linux are of course fine)

bittorrent also takes up too much of my bandwidth (ie all of it) to use during the day, and i can't sleep with my computer on at night. if i could really be bothered i'd build a new computer to stick in another room to dl with BT all day, or a silent one to dl at night, but i'm really not that fussed... i like some of the mistique that goes with getting new CDs :)

I recommend BiComet.

Make sure to reduce the upload rate of your client. If the client uses your full upload bandwidth for sharing files, you won't have enough upload bandwidth left to confirm incoming packages and your overall download rate will drop, including your browser.

I can tell you that once I finish measuring a piece of string.Well it's not like I'm the only one that had that problem, I'm just wondering if they fixed the darn problem.

I love these threads.

Bah, I only like one or two of your songs so I am going to steal your work. You dont mind do you?

Awesome logic.
Kinda like coming home and finding a note,
"Sorry we broke in. We didn't much like your dining suite, so we only stole a couple of chairs"

Why would anyone steal...period. Get a fucking job.
Two points:
1. Why would anyone want to steal period? That's just kinda gross, if you ask me.
2. A fucking job. How I'd love to get a fucking job.
Unless it's do with horses or midgets, but what can I say? I'm prejudiced.