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. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?

No your clone will not have a soul. Neither do you have a soul, or anyone else for that matter.

. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?
What is a soul? If it is some ghost thing that just lives in your body, then it depends on if God would want to create one for hir. If your soul is a quality of the human mind, then yes obviously they'd have a mind and a "soul", and they could say about the same things about it as any other human being. The mind of the clone would not be identical to yours, since it to a big part formed after birth.

. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?

Depends on what you believe. A soul is one of those things, like a god, that is dependent entirely on you believing in it. If you believe you have a soul, you do. If your clone believes he/she has one, the same is true. If either one of you does not believe, then the non believer doesn't.

What do you define as your soul? Some people believe it is the spark in you that causes you to live. Others think it is the seat of your moral compass. Still others believe it is where your dreams and emotions are born. A clone would still be a person, living, thinking, full of its own dreams and morality, so if that is what your soul is, then yes, your clone would have one.

well if you believe one or not, a duplicate of you will have exactly the same things that you have ya?

I personably believe that souls grow around conscious minds. So if a clone is created they will of course have a soul... not the same soul as you, if that's what you were getting at, your clone would be a unique person, only identical in genetics. The method by which an individual comes to exist would not make them different in any spiritual respect, nor should it mean they are treated differently.

If you mean your electromagnetivity, then yes, it will. But it will be different, as everyone's electromagnetivity forms differently. And since electromagnetivity CAN NOT be copied, your clone must form their own electromagnetivity.

. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?

The same a natural twin would say.

Your clone will have a soul.

You, however, do not.

Only clones are given souls. It's somewhere in the Talmud.

Or maybe I'm thinking of zombies.

Damn.

. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?
He would say he's the "real" you and that YOU are the one without a soul! ONE of you is a zombie, but since we can't tell the difference, we'll just shoot you both! Mwahahahaha! :D

. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?


If by soul you mean conciousness, yes. Though it would be entirely seperate from you. Identical twins are nothing but natural cloning.

Identical twins are clones. Go ask one of them.

. . .and, if I am cloned, what might my clone say about his soul?

Dependent upon exactly what you consider the soul to be, either certainly yes, or maybe (but no reason why it shouldn't).

From my limited understanding, a clone is essentially no different than an identical twin -- born well after you, yes, but otherwise the same. So if souls are completely separate from physical existence, then it has no less reason to have one than you, I suppose. If souls are generated by the interaction of physical elements (the whole is greater than the sum of its parts), then it would of course of a soul just as you do.

Unless you mean a gross physical duplication, and not genetic cloning. Then it's much harder to say.

If you mean your electromagnetivity, then yes, it will. But it will be different, as everyone's electromagnetivity forms differently. And since electromagnetivity CAN NOT be copied, your clone must form their own electromagnetivity.

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I would guess it would be like a twin, so different souls, heh.

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I agree, what the funk you talkin bout?

This is actually quite an interesting question. I think it would, since I understand the soul to be an emergent property of biological systems rather than something that has been placed in addition to it, but does anyone have an official Christian church line on this? It'd be interesting to hear their take on it, given how important the soul seems to be in their tradition and mythology.