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Yes, I need more advice about my one and only friend, Elizabeth. As you may or may not know, her boyfriend constantly cheats on her, sometimes even with Elizabeth's friends, and she has no knowledge about it. On Thursday and Friday, I noticed she was asking around about something. When she came to me and asked me, she asked me if she knows if her boyfriend is doing anything with other girls. I said I didn't know anything, following the advice of you NSers. I have a feeling, however, that this line of questioning will lead to her eventualy discovery of her boyfriend cheating on her, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday because she is asking so much. This will undoubtably lead to a break-up, as Liz is very sensitive towards these kind of things, if the boyfriend doesn't break up with her in the first place. Thing is, Liz has a "puppy love" towards her boyfriend, and the break-up, I feel, will seriously emotionally hurt her, even if it is just teenage puppy love. May I ask for advice on how to lessen the hurt when the break-up comes? And don't just say "Be a shoulder to cry on". I want more advice then just that. Like tell me what to say to her, and stuff like that.

Well, say stuff like "He made a huge mistake" or "You don't need him". Stuff along those lines. Like I and others said before, just be there for her and listen. The, give your opinion.

This is what you do. You tell her the truth "He doesn't deserve you, you're better off without him, and you're a good person." That being said, she won't believe you, and it won't make the problem go away. It's still the right thing to do.

I wish I could help.. but I suck at giving advice and tend to let people work it out themselves.

To be honest, its not your place to do anything. Try too hard and she'll think you're just like 'all the others' (i.e men), avoid her and she'll think somethings up (you'll crack and tell her you already knew about him = bad for you.

Act like her friend, and simply be her friend. She'll appreciate it in the long run.

There is nothing you can, or should, do to 'lessen' this pain. Pain is a part of life- to deny it is the same as trying to deny joy or anger.

:p

If she asked for your opinion, do you really think she'd resent you being honest? We were telling you not to confront her with it. We didn't say hide it from her.

She's most likely turn to you and being there will help her alot. reinstall confidence in her. She'll eventually get over that jackass and move on. These things don't last. Just weather the storm and listen. I know you want to be able to do more, but I fear there isn't that much else.

Dude, man up, drop the testes, and stop trying to be cool with "only one friend". Its not healthy. Just go out, be normal, make friends...and stop acting like a dooch and maybe this girl will come aroudn to see your a normal guy, not some immature cutter who complains about the world.

Yes, I need more advice about my one and only friend, Elizabeth. As you may or may not know, her boyfriend constantly cheats on her, sometimes even with Elizabeth's friends, and she has no knowledge about it. On Thursday and Friday, I noticed she was asking around about something. When she came to me and asked me, she asked me if she knows if her boyfriend is doing anything with other girls. I said I didn't know anything, following the advice of you NSers. I have a feeling, however, that this line of questioning will lead to her eventualy discovery of her boyfriend cheating on her, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday because she is asking so much. This will undoubtably lead to a break-up, as Liz is very sensitive towards these kind of things, if the boyfriend doesn't break up with her in the first place. Thing is, Liz has a "puppy love" towards her boyfriend, and the break-up, I feel, will seriously emotionally hurt her, even if it is just teenage puppy love. May I ask for advice on how to lessen the hurt when the break-up comes? And don't just say "Be a shoulder to cry on". I want more advice then just that. Like tell me what to say to her, and stuff like that.

Whatever you do, don't say anything that passes judgement on the guy. If they get back together (an unfortunate but all too possible option) she'll be pissed at you for having ever said such a thing about him. I think the best you can do is be there for her. And tell her that you're there for her and to call you if she needs to talk about it (but only if you're willing to do that). Sometimes, there's really only so much you can do. She has to get over it on her own. You can't do that for her.

Although I have to wonder about the advice given. Certainly you shouldn't have volunteered the information, but if she asked you, you should have told her the truth. Ah well, too late now! Don't retract what you said before.

Dude, man up, drop the testes, and stop trying to be cool with "only one friend". Its not healthy. Just go out, be normal, make friends...and stop acting like a dooch and maybe this girl will come aroudn to see your a normal guy, not some immature cutter who complains about the world.

Hey, don't talk like that about him.

Dude, man up, drop the testes, and stop trying to be cool with "only one friend". Its not healthy. Just go out, be normal, make friends...and stop acting like a dooch and maybe this girl will come aroudn to see your a normal guy, not some immature cutter who complains about the world.

Douche

There is nothing you can, or should, do to 'lessen' this pain. Pain is a part of life- to deny it is the same as trying to deny joy or anger.
Maybe this is a threadjack, but do you think it is really possible to know joy if you have not known pain?

Well, say stuff like "He made a huge mistake" or "You don't need him". Stuff along those lines. Like I and others said before, just be there for her and listen. The, give your opinion.
Stupid boy! NEVER EVER give advice unless asked for it. After the breakup (if there is one), everybody who knows will try to give her unwanted advice when all she needs is someone to listen. So be there, listen, and sympathize with her. Only if she asks you for advice, THEN tell her what you think according to your own best judgement.

Well, say stuff like "He made a huge mistake" or "You don't need him". Stuff along those lines. Like I and others said before, just be there for her and listen. Then, give your opinion.

That's bordering what does work and what doesn't work. Careful how you word anything like that! If you aren't sure, don't say it.

Dude, man up, drop the testes, and stop trying to be cool with "only one friend". Its not healthy. Just go out, be normal, make friends...and stop acting like a dooch and maybe this girl will come aroudn to see your a normal guy, not some immature cutter who complains about the world.
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I CANNOT MAKE FRIENDS! How many times must I say that it was they who drove me away first. After that, I simply decided to stop trying to get to them. If they want me, they can come and get me themselves. Like Liz did.

Stupid boy! NEVER EVER give advice unless asked for it. After the breakup (if there is one), everybody who knows will try to give her unwanted advice when all she needs is someone to listen. So be there, listen, and sympathize with her. Only if she asks you for advice, THEN tell her what you think according to your own best judgement.

Listen to the female. And me, of course.

Maybe this is a threadjack, but do you think it is really possible to know joy if you have not known pain?
Exactly.

The worst pain makes the greatest joy even better.

Stupid boy! NEVER EVER give advice unless asked for it. After the breakup (if there is one), everybody who knows will try to give her unwanted advice when all she needs is someone to listen. So be there, listen, and sympathize with her. Only if she asks you for advice, THEN tell her what you think according to your own best judgement.

^ Very very true. Whenever I had issues, I hated it when everyone gave me unsolicited advice. Only give if she asks for it. If you aren't sure, ask if she's asking for advice or just wants to talk.

Dude, man up, drop the testes, and stop trying to be cool with "only one friend". Its not healthy. Just go out, be normal, make friends...and stop acting like a dooch and maybe this girl will come aroudn to see your a normal guy, not some immature cutter who complains about the world.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I agree.
C'mon, be nice..
HAHAHAHAHA! *hands you a cookie*

Listen to the female. And me, of course.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I've just been torched, please forgive me!!!!

*Bursts into flames*

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I CANNOT MAKE FRIENDS! How many times must I say that it was they who drove me away first. After that, I simply decided to stop trying to get to them. If they want me, they can come and get me themselves. Like Liz did.

*hug*
It happens sometimes.

If she does ask for your advice, I would make sure to add that you highly advise against getting back together with him, making sure to note that you'll be there for her either way.

And Francis, there is no up without a down, no concept of height without a concept of depth, and thus, no concept of joy without a concept of pain. If we had no pain, then joy would be a constant, and therefore a middle, not a high.

Edit: Don't worry about bitching about you not having friends. The only friends worth having are the ones that come to you without you having to do any work. If its nobody, thats just how it is, its better to have no friends than bad friends.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I've just been torched, please forgive me!!!!

*Bursts into flames*

What, for not giving advice that females would give, and having us respond and say you're wrong? Or did you do what she said not to do...

What, for not giving advice that females would give, and having us respond and say you're wrong? Or did you do what she said not to do...

I'm a guy, so I'm probably not the right person to ask for advice. Women know what they want to hear better than guys. Though, listening is the best advice I could give.

Oh sh1t...I'm still on fire!

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I've just been torched, please forgive me!!!!

*Bursts into flames*
Oh, don't be such a drama queen. I haven't even brought on my lighter to scorch you yet.

Edit: Don't worry about bitching about you not having friends. The only friends worth having are the ones that come to you without you having to do any work. If its nobody, thats just how it is, its better to have no friends than bad friends.
So I'm not a friend worth having?

What, for not giving advice that females would give, and having us respond and say you're wrong? Or did you do what she said not to do...

No one really knows, sometimes it's just sorta spontaenous. Like erections. In fact, sometimes the two are linked.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I agree.
C'mon, be nice..
HAHAHAHAHA! *hands you a cookie*
... Read the secret message. But yeah... Atlantian has always hated me. Since... When was it? The wicca thread? I'm not sure.

So I'm not a friend worth having?

I dunno, but...Eh, whatever, I can't think of anything to say here.

Oh, don't be such a drama queen. I haven't even brought on my lighter to scorch you yet.

Oh...I feel better now. Maybe it was all in my head

... Read the secret message. But yeah... Atlantian has always hated me. Since... When was it? The wicca thread? I'm not sure.

Since Ritlina?

Hey, don't talk like that about him.

Why? Its the truth.

Douche

Ah, yes...thats the correct spelling!

So I'm not a friend worth having?

That was most certainly not my point. I was backing you up, as I too have little or no friends and get bitched at about it.

So I'm not a friend worth having?

Nonsense. Some of my best friends were ones that I went to, not the other way around. If what A (doesn't remember entire name) was saying were true, good friendships wouldn't be two way. After all, someone has to initiate the friendship!

So I'm not a friend worth having?
You could say that..

Why? Its the truth.

It's not the truth! Shooting him down and insulting him isn't helping his situation any.

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I CANNOT MAKE FRIENDS! How many times must I say that it was they who drove me away first. After that, I simply decided to stop trying to get to them. If they want me, they can come and get me themselves. Like Liz did.

That sounds a loser mentality. Maybe you should quit the goth stuff and the cutting stuff. Maybe, just maybe, thats driving people away. Having no friends is not healthy, whether you want to admit it or not.

Edit: Don't worry about bitching about you not having friends. The only friends worth having are the ones that come to you without you having to do any work. If its nobody, thats just how it is, its better to have no friends than bad friends.
If everybody thought like that, then nobody would be friends with anybody else. SOMEBODY will always have to take the initiative to talk to the other person/people. Just let these thing happen naturally. Don't force your company on other people but don't hold that "I can't make friends" attitude either, because the attitude will turn potential friends away.

Since Ritlina?
Oh. I see your point.

That was most certainly not my point. I was backing you up, as I too have little or no friends and get bitched at about it.

Lol, I think you mispoke, hence the confusion. I think I get what you mean now. I hope he does too.

That sounds a loser mentality. Maybe you should quit the goth stuff and the cutting stuff. Maybe, just maybe, thats driving people away. Having no friends is not healthy, whether you want to admit it or not.
Spreading the love? :p

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I agree.
C'mon, be nice..
HAHAHAHAHA! *hands you a cookie*

*mutters* Sorry.

*Waits till Naliitr's back is turned*

*bursts out laughing and high fives Ruffy*

... Read the secret message. But yeah... Atlantian has always hated me. Since... When was it? The wicca thread? I'm not sure.
*gasp*

Don't mind me, I'm fucked in the head right now..

I'll be your friend :fluffle:

That sounds a loser mentality. Maybe you should quit the goth stuff and the cutting stuff. Maybe, just maybe, thats driving people away. Having no friends is not healthy, whether you want to admit it or not.

Maybe you should keep your fucking opinions to yourself.

*mutters* Sorry.

*Waits till Naliitr's back is turned*

*bursts out laughing and high fives Ruffy*
:p

That sounds a loser mentality. Maybe you should quit the goth stuff and the cutting stuff. Maybe, just maybe, thats driving people away. Having no friends is not healthy, whether you want to admit it or not.
But... I am a loser... So... Yeah... And I don't do goth stuff. Since when do I do goth stuff? Just because I wear black and a trenchcoat doesn't mean I'm goth. Johnny Cash wore black. Was he goth? Detectives from the old noir films (which films I absolutely love) wore trenchcoats. Were they goth? And believe me dude, the cutting thing has become like a drug addiction. Also, as I have seen in my parents lives, having no friends seems to be rather healthy, as all friends want to do is borrow money and never pay you back, and borrow the car and return it with no gas. And rent out a room in your house without paying rent.

... Read the secret message. But yeah... Atlantian has always hated me. Since... When was it? The wicca thread? I'm not sure.

Oh, I'm pretty sure its ever since you were that previous name with the fetish for POSTING IN ALL CAPS.

The Wicca crap, cutting, self loathing, pity seeking only intensified our....relationship....

No one really knows, sometimes it's just sorta spontaenous. Like erections. In fact, sometimes the two are linked.

.... WHAT? What does that have to do with what I posted?

*gasp*

Don't mind me, I'm fucked in the head right now..

I'll be your friend :fluffle:
Sorry dude, I'm not that way. And you already are my friend. At least I think you are.

Since Ritlina?

DING DING DING

What do we have for em Johnny?


A brand new car!

But... I am a loser... So... Yeah... And I don't do goth stuff. Since when do I do goth stuff? Just because I wear black and a trenchcoat doesn't mean I'm goth. Johnny Cash wore black. Was he goth? Detectives from the old noir films (which films I absolutely love) wore trenchcoats. Were they goth? And believe me dude, the cutting thing has become like a drug addiction. Also, as I have seen in my parents lives, having no friends seems to be rather healthy, as all friends want to do is borrow money and never pay you back, and borrow the car and return it with no gas. And rent out a room in your house without paying rent.

That's not true. All friends want to do is laugh, have a good time, and hang out with one another. there is the occasional borrowing money and car thing, but never in my case. Friends are good to have. You need a group of people who'll support you, give you advice, and be there for you.

Oh, I'm pretty sure its ever since you were that previous name with the fetish for POSTING IN ALL CAPS.

The Wicca crap, cutting, self loathing, pity seeking only intensified our....relationship....
And? What's wrong with defending a secular religion when it is being bashed with false information and people who only look at stereotypes? And I didn't post in ALL caps. I Typed By Capitalizing The First Letter Of Each Word, Which As You Can See, I Can Still Do Easily. And I do NOT seek pity. In fact, I hate pity. And what's wrong with loathing something as horrible as your self?

.... WHAT? What does that have to do with what I posted?
Everything has to do with what you posted. I've long decided that because your name is one of my favourite novels of all time, I'm going to worship you as my goddess. *bows* :p

It's not the truth! Shooting him down and insulting him isn't helping his situation any.

Oh relax...all he needs is a few smacks from a the backside of a shoe by his dad. That'd straighten him out quick.

Sorry dude, I'm not that way. And you already are my friend. At least I think you are.
I is I is.

That's not true. All friends want to do is laugh, have a good time, and hang out with one another. there is the occasional borrowing money and car thing, but never in my case. Friends are good to have. You need a group of people who'll support you, give you advice, and be there for you.

That's ideal friends. When you find some, send them my way.

Spreading the love? :p

You know it.

Maybe you should keep your fucking opinions to yourself.

*Seriously considers this*

Nah.

That's not true. All friends want to do is laugh, have a good time, and hang out with one another. there is the occasional borrowing money and car thing, but never in my case. Friends are good to have. You need a group of people who'll support you, give you advice, and be there for you.

Probably should stay out of the guy-to-guy-about-guys advice, but that sounds about the same in the female world too.

Oh relax...all he needs is a few smacks from a the backside of a shoe by his dad. That'd straighten him out quick.

What he needs in my opinion are people to be supportive.

Maybe you should keep your fucking opinions to yourself.

Or maybe not. This is a public forum and if someone has an opinion, they are entitled to express it. You don't have to agree with them, but you have no basis upon which to try and censor their ideas and opinions, particularly when these were asked for.

That's ideal friends. When you find some, send them my way.
No, that's REAL friends.

Everything has to do with what you posted. I've long decided that because your name is one of my favourite novels of all time, I'm going to worship you as my goddess. *bows* :p

Thank you, thank you, no pictures please! I do autographs, though. :p

One of my favorites too. I love JA, and that's my favorite of her novels!

Probably should stay out of the guy-to-guy-about-guys advice, but that sounds about the same in the female world too.

What's wrong with a guy's advice?

Or maybe not. This is a public forum and if someone has an opinion, they are entitled to express it. You don't have to agree with them, but you have no basis upon which to try and censor their ideas and opinions, particularly when these were asked for.
When someone asks for help, I don't go out of my way to kick them when they are down. I don't go out of my way to be a prick.

Everything has to do with what you posted. I've long decided that because your name is one of my favourite novels of all time, I'm going to worship you as my goddess. *bows* :p

Goddess? As in female deity?

But... I am a loser... So... Yeah... And I don't do goth stuff. Since when do I do goth stuff? Just because I wear black and a trenchcoat doesn't mean I'm goth. Johnny Cash wore black. Was he goth? Detectives from the old noir films (which films I absolutely love) wore trenchcoats. Were they goth? And believe me dude, the cutting thing has become like a drug addiction. Also, as I have seen in my parents lives, having no friends seems to be rather healthy, as all friends want to do is borrow money and never pay you back, and borrow the car and return it with no gas. And rent out a room in your house without paying rent.

Are you a detective? No.
Are you Johnny Cash? No.
Are you goth/emo? Yes.

Dude, grow up...thats not what all friends are like, obviously.

*hands everyone a joint*

Welcome back btw Ritlina :p

And? What's wrong with defending a secular religion when it is being bashed with false information and people who only look at stereotypes? And I didn't post in ALL caps. I Typed By Capitalizing The First Letter Of Each Word, Which As You Can See, I Can Still Do Easily. And I do NOT seek pity. In fact, I hate pity. And what's wrong with loathing something as horrible as your self?

*rolls eyes*

And? What's wrong with defending a secular religion when it is being bashed with false information and people who only look at stereotypes? And I didn't post in ALL caps. I Typed By Capitalizing The First Letter Of Each Word, Which As You Can See, I Can Still Do Easily. And I do NOT seek pity. In fact, I hate pity. And what's wrong with loathing something as horrible as your self?

*blinks* I'm confused, are you a Wiccan, or did you use something about Wicca to make a point? (Yeah, I was totally not there for that discussion).

What he needs in my opinion are people to be supportive.

And, to be honest, I don't think you're a loser for doing what you're doing. Not enough people help each other out in this world, and it's a respectable thing to do.

Now, Atlantian would kick em in the back, tell em to quit cryin, and then go back to his computer to meddle in the affairs of others.

Also, the difference between real friends and ideal friends is...? My point is that, at least around here, real friends, who will be there good and bad, pretty much don't exist anymore.

*hands everyone a joint*

I will not accept that joint! Any enemy of PA is an enemy of mine!!

What he needs in my opinion are people to be supportive.

Thats what friends are for, should he choose to man up and make some.

Probably should stay out of the guy-to-guy-about-guys advice, but that sounds about the same in the female world too.
Now that I think about it, people will only give advice to people about people if the people who are the center of the advice are the opposite sex of the advice giver. God damn this post confuses me...

Thank you, thank you, no pictures please! I do autographs, though. :p

One of my favorites too. I love JA, and that's my favorite of her novels!
*lines up for autographs* :p

Have you read any of her other works? IMO none of them measure up to Pride and Prejudice. I was so mad when Hollywood decided to butcher another classic by making a film about it.

Goddess? As in female deity?

Yes. I'm female, so I'd have to be a goddess. You haven't been reading my posts closely enough to catch that did you? :p When I said something about females before, I used "us" as the pronoun, not "them." Plus, I think I said something about being a female on another of Lada's threads...

*hands everyone a joint*
Awesome! *steals all of Ruffy's joints and flees giggling her head off*

And, to be honest, I don't think you're a loser for doing what you're doing. Not enough people help each other out in this world, and it's a respectable thing to do.

Now, Atlantian would kick em in the back, tell em to quit cryin, and then go back to his computer to meddle in the affairs of others.

Also, the difference between real friends and ideal friends is...? My point is that, at least around here, real friends, who will be there good and bad, pretty much don't exist anymore.

*pushes Adollias down*

*Kicks him*

Dude, your depressing. Real friends do exist, you and Ritilina just dont wanna acknowlledge them, for some reason.

*lines up for autographs* :p

Have you read any of her other works? IMO none of them measure up to Pride and Prejudice. I was so mad when Hollywood decided to butcher another classic by making a film about it.

You should know by now never to watch the movie if you've read the book.

Yes. I'm female, so I'd have to be a goddess. You haven't been reading my posts closely enough to catch that did you? :p When I said something about females before, I used "us" as the pronoun, not "them." Plus, I think I said something about being a female on another of Lada's threads...

Hey, let's do some worshipping together, if you catch my drift

*Gives cheesy smile and wink*

:fluffle:

Are you a detective? No.
Are you Johnny Cash? No.
Are you goth/emo? Yes.

Dude, grow up...thats not what all friends are like, obviously.
I like to think of myself as a junior detective. I watch a shit-load of cop/detective/mystery shows movies. I love solving mysteries. But I want to be a psychologist when I grow up. I guess I can be one of those on-call psychologists for the cops.

Yes. I'm female, so I'd have to be a goddess. You haven't been reading my posts closely enough to catch that did you? :p When I said something about females before, I used "us" as the pronoun, not "them." Plus, I think I said something about being a female on another of Lada's threads...

Oh...Well...Okay.

I'll just remember to bother you about pictures next time I see you.

Ah the internet... where every other post quickly degenerates to pot smoking.. hate humans...

When someone asks for help, I don't go out of my way to kick them when they are down. I don't go out of my way to be a prick.

Obviously I do, because I'm a Right Wing Fanatic.

*pushes Psy Mongooses down*

*kicks him*

*pushes Adollias down*

*Kicks him*

Dude, your depressing. Real friends do exist, you and Ritilina just dont wanna acknowlledge them, for some reason.
Yes. I know one real friend right now. Liz. Don't know any others.

Ah the internet... where every other post quickly degenerates to pot smoking.. hate humans...

Don't hate the man, hate the maker. But don't do it around the Bible-O-Matic. That would be Cornilieu, btw.

When someone asks for help, I don't go out of my way to kick them when they are down. I don't go out of my way to be a prick.
That'd be silly...you just deprive them of welfare. :)

*rolls eyes*
I'd have to agree with that.

Naliitr, your religion and your personal beliefs contradict each other. I've always thought of Wiccan rituals as appreciations for the beauty of nature. If you cannot see the inherent beauty in everything on this planet, even you, then you should not call yourself Wiccan/defend a religion you do not believe.

I will not accept that joint! Any enemy of PA is an enemy of mine!!
:p

I'm depressing? no no my dear asshole, life is depressing. And you make a fine example of why. I'm not emo, don't cry and cut myself, I deal with life the same as anyone, I just deal with it alone. Just because I don't cry about life doesn't make it suck any less.

*lines up for autographs* :p

Have you read any of her other works? IMO none of them measure up to Pride and Prejudice. I was so mad when Hollywood decided to butcher another classic by making a film about it.

*gives beautiful autograph*

Yeah, I'm working on getting through them all, but I've read P&P, Emma, and Northanger Abbey so far. Still have Persuasion, S&S, and Mansfield Park to go, although I've watched every version of every book. :p

You should watch the BBC version (one of two miniseries). It's the most accurate. Well done. Although about 6hrs long.... Then the A&C version (which isn't too bad either, fairly accurate). The Keira Knightley version is quite inaccurate, but made for the normal people of this day and age, and is not as bad as the black and white one, which is so totally inaccurate!

I like to think of myself as a junior detective. I watch a shit-load of cop/detective/mystery shows movies. I love solving mysteries. But I want to be a psychologist when I grow up. I guess I can be one of those on-call psychologists for the cops.

Ugh, reality check, bro. You have to be mentally and psychologically able to be a 'psychologist'.

I'd have to agree with that.

Naliitr, your religion and your personal beliefs contradict each other. I've always thought of Wiccan rituals as appreciations for the beauty of nature. If you cannot see the inherent beauty in everything on this planet, even you, then you should not call yourself Wiccan/defend a religion you do not believe.
Yes Naliitr, join me and embrace Capit...I mean Satanism. XD

:p

I will blast that stupid smirk off your face!

:sniper:

Ah the internet... where every other post quickly degenerates to pot smoking.. hate humans...
Something wrong with that?

Anyways. Kid you've already gotten the best advice on what to do in this situation. Let the shit storm pass and she will more then likely wind up coming to you for support (girls in that situation will hit up all of their friends for support and it really does help them see who their better friends are). Once that happens give her all the reassurance you can. That really is the best thing you can do.

Ugh, reality check, bro. You have to be mentally and psychologically able to be a 'psychologist'.
lol ever seen what most shrinks are like?

... I've read P&P, Emma, and Northanger Abbey so far. Still have Persuasion, S&S, and Mansfield Park to go...

My goal in life is now to finish all the books before you...I'll start after this Jamiroquai song. :D

I'd have to agree with that.

Naliitr, your religion and your personal beliefs contradict each other. I've always thought of Wiccan rituals as appreciations for the beauty of nature. If you cannot see the inherent beauty in everything on this planet, even you, then you should not call yourself Wiccan/defend a religion you do not believe.

I think he just does it all because he thinks its strange and fits into his wierd and misunderstood image. The same reason hes a Left Wing Communist.

Yes. I know one real friend right now. Liz. Don't know any others.

Well, get on it. Make more.

Hey, let's do some worshipping together, if you catch my drift

*Gives cheesy smile and wink*

:fluffle:

Oh really... and what shall our worshipping entail? :cool:

you can be a crack addict and be a psychologist, psychiatry is where the actual medicine and intelligence is involved.

I think he just does it all because he thinks its strange and fits into his wierd and misunderstood image. The same reason hes a Left Wing Communist.
He is? :eek:

lol ever seen what most shrinks are like?

I'm guess it involves:
1) *nod*
2) "Mh-hmm"
3) "How does that make you feel?"
4) *scribble*

lol ever seen what most shrinks are like?

Actually, no. Never been to one.

I'm depressing? no no my dear asshole, life is depressing. And you make a fine example of why. I'm not emo, don't cry and cut myself, I deal with life the same as anyone, I just deal with it alone. Just because I don't cry about life doesn't make it suck any less.

*pulls out violen*

man, you're on the internet. What are the chances you'd run into two of the five conservatives on one thread (one being me). He's gotta be a liberal, everyone is around here.

Oh really... and what shall our worshipping entail? :cool:

It'll be a religious experience like none you've ever had ;)

lol ever seen what most shrinks are like?
They're scary...even scarier than capitalists! :p

Oh really... and what shall our worshipping entail? :cool:

A video camera expertly remotely weilded by me.

Actually, no. Never been to one.



*pulls out violen*


I'm not askin for your pity, I don't give a flying fuck. Just think you should oh I don't know, think before you speak?

Ugh, reality check, bro. You have to be mentally and psychologically able to be a 'psychologist'.

The best ones have typically had a period in life where they needed one too. Seeing the worst of it better helps a psychologist understand his/her client's feelings. Wait, that's just psychotherapists and clinical psychologists!

A research psychologist does not have to be entirely sane, just capable of doing his/her job accurately. Same with a police-related one.

Awesome! *steals all of Ruffy's joints and flees giggling her head off*
:eek:

man, you're on the internet. What are the chances you'd run into two of the five conservatives on one thread (one being me). He's gotta be a liberal, everyone is around here.

I'm a conservative.

They're scary...even scarier than capitalists! :p
We're scary? ^^

I'm guess it involves:
1) *nod*
2) "Mh-hmm"
3) "How does that make you feel?"
4) *scribble*

Psychoanalysis, which is pretty different.

*gives beautiful autograph*

Yeah, I'm working on getting through them all, but I've read P&P, Emma, and Northanger Abbey so far. Still have Persuasion, S&S, and Mansfield Park to go, although I've watched every version of every book. :p

You should watch the BBC version (one of two miniseries). It's the most accurate. Well done. Although about 6hrs long.... Then the A&C version (which isn't too bad either, fairly accurate). The Keira Knightley version is quite inaccurate, but made for the normal people of this day and age, and is not as bad as the black and white one, which is so totally inaccurate!
I've read all of her work except Lady Susan. All of them are mediocre to me except P&P, which is absolutely amazing.

Yes, I've seen the BBC version of Sense and Sensibility, but that's it. I've decided to boycott the Kera Knightly version of P&P because 1) it's hollywood, 2) they would modernize the book, 3) they would destroy LOTS of the little details I love, and 4) they're capitalist bastards who are only out to make money from the film, therefore, making it appeal to the public instead of keeping the origional artistic integrity of the story.

The best ones have typically had a period in life where they needed one too. Seeing the worst of it better helps a psychologist understand his/her client's feelings. Wait, that's just psychotherapists and clinical psychologists!

A research psychologist does not have to be entirely sane, just capable of doing his/her job accurately. Same with a police-related one.

Eh, whatever...You couldnt pay me enough to get advice from this kid.

It'll be a religious experience like none you've ever had ;)

Oh really?

I'd have to agree with that.

Naliitr, your religion and your personal beliefs contradict each other. I've always thought of Wiccan rituals as appreciations for the beauty of nature. If you cannot see the inherent beauty in everything on this planet, even you, then you should not call yourself Wiccan/defend a religion you do not believe.
I

Am

Not

WICCAN!

I am agnostic. But I do, however, see the inherent beauty of nature. Nature is much more beautiful than humanity. Sure, humanity is part of nature, but it's the ugly inbred cousin of nature. That's why I perfer to spend more time with the trees and animals than humans.

So you're a transcendentalist?

Oh really?

You better believe it. We'll "worship" together five times a day, just like the Muslims ;)

I'm a praying machine, baby :cool:

He is? :eek:
Yes.

We're scary? ^^
Yes, with your money and your possessions and your materialistic tendencies. I can feel my soul deteriorating just saying those despicable things.

*runs into the forest and starts tree-hugging* :p

I've read all of her work except Lady Susan. All of them are mediocre to me except P&P, which is absolutely amazing.

Yes, I've seen the BBC version of Sense and Sensibility, but that's it. I've decided to boycott the Kera Knightly version of P&P because 1) it's hollywood, 2) they would modernize the book, 3) they would destroy LOTS of the little details I love, and 4) they're capitalist bastards who are only out to make money from the film, therefore, making it appeal to the public instead of keeping the origional artistic integrity of the story.

Heh, it wasn't as bad as I expected, actually. Although it does take out a lot of the fun for those who understand JA and her time.... which is some of the best stuff... oh, and the American ending is terrible too, but meh.

Oooh, must read Lady Susan too! *adds to list*
Oh, I didn't like Sense and Sensibility. In any of its forms, actually...

Yes, with your money and your possessions and your materialistic tendencies. I can feel my soul deteriorating just saying those despicable things.

*runs into the forest and starts tree-hugging* :p
*Charges you for every tree you hug*

Gotta love private property. :)

You better believe it. We'll "worship" together five times a day, just like the Muslims ;)

I'm a praying machine, baby :cool:

Sounds much better than my last relationship. :D

So you're a transcendentalist?
Wait, let me rethink my statement about my religion. I believe there is some form of god, without a doubt. How ever, I also believe that he/she/it is very sick and twisted and is a total asshole. Also, I believe in reincarnation, although I have a very scientific explanation about reincarnation, but whenever I say it everyone calls me a loon, and right now I'm too lazy to talk about it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with defending a religion you don't believe in. I don't believe in any of them, except Buddhism a little, but i still defend them if i feel they are being unduly and unfairly criticised. That's like saying you shouldn't defend gay people if you aren't gay, or you shouldn't defend people of other races if you aren't a part of them. I do agree that you shouldn't claim to be a member of a religion or something if you don't believe in it, but i don't think he did that.

Yes.
You must be the oddest commie I've met then. Death worshipping, nihilistic capitalists, that one can believe. Commies though?

Yes, with your money and your possessions and your materialistic tendencies. I can feel my soul deteriorating just saying those despicable things.

*runs into the forest and starts tree-hugging* :p
I tree-hug! And every-form-of-animal-on-the-planet-hug.

But I do, however, see the inherent beauty of nature. Nature is much more beautiful than humanity. Sure, humanity is part of nature, but it's the ugly inbred cousin of nature. That's why I perfer to spend more time with the trees and animals than humans.

Very true, although if you listen to the trees, they'll teach you how to appreciate humans. Although it doesn't help for making human friends...

Sounds much better than my last relationship. :D

Well then you've never been with a guy like me, I'll treat you right ;)

I'm catholic and should be offended by using religion in sexual contexts. But I'm not...I'm a bad Catholic.

Heh, it wasn't as bad as I expected, actually. Although it does take out a lot of the fun for those who understand JA and her time.... which is some of the best stuff... oh, and the American ending is terrible too, but meh.

Oooh, must read Lady Susan too! *adds to list*
Oh, I didn't like Sense and Sensibility. In any of its forms, actually...
Me either, actually. Persuasion was the best non-P&P novel Austen wrote. You should read that one first.

I tree-hug! And every-form-of-animal-on-the-planet-hug.

...umm...I highly doubt that.

You must be the oddest commie I've met then. Death worshipping capitalists, that one can believe. Commies though?
Since when am I death-worshipping? I may WISH for death, but I don't worship it.

This thread is going way too fucking fast. I'm going to get high now.

Since when am I death-worshipping? I may WISH for death, but I don't worship it.
Oh, maybe I was speaking for myself then.

...umm...I highly doubt that.
Ok. So I don't hug arachnids nor snakes. I still hug those cute lil' grizzly bears! And don't forget the tigers! Oh oh! And the jackals! AND the feral wolves!

*Charges you for every tree you hug*

Gotta love private property. :)
:eek:

*cries*

But I don't have any money...I just want to hug the trees and appreciate the beauty of the wild...

I would be a tree-hugging hermit, too, but, alas, I have not yet managed to get a tree to sing the Internationale, and without Eugene Pottier life is empty.

But I do, however, see the inherent beauty of nature. Nature is much more beautiful than humanity. Sure, humanity is part of nature, but it's the ugly inbred cousin of nature. That's why I perfer to spend more time with the trees and animals than humans.

Human beings have a certain beauty to them, too. One just needs to find the right ones (or let oneself be found by them), and ignore all the others.

You seem to like Elizabeth; surely there can be others, somewhere in the world?

:eek:

*cries*

But I don't have any money...I just want to hug the trees and appreciate the beauty of the wild...
*Sells you a plastic replica of a tree*

Me either, actually. Persuasion was the best non-P&P novel Austen wrote. You should read that one first.

OMG, THAT ONE IS MY FAVORITE AFTER P&P!!!! Well, according to the DVD versions, but seriously... both versions are better than the versions of everything else, excluding P&P, which is my favorite JA.

Sorry about the caps. It had to be done. :p

:eek:

*cries*

But I don't have any money...I just want to hug the trees and appreciate the beauty of the wild...
:p :p :p :p :p :p

:p :p :p :p :p :p
High?

*Sells you a plastic replica of a tree*
*looks at tree distastefully*

But it's all plastic...and hard...and prickly. I want the real stuff with real barks and leaves and branches and even the insects crawling on the trees!

*looks at tree distastefully*

But it's all plastic...and hard...and prickly. I want the real stuff with real barks and leaves and branches and even the insects crawling on the trees!
That'll be another $100. :)

Well then you've never been with a guy like me, I'll treat you right ;)

I'm catholic and should be offended by using religion in sexual contexts. But I'm not...I'm a bad Catholic.

Bah, Shakespeare does it in Romeo and Juliet, and that's considered a classic, so it does make for good writing...
Of course, I didn't like Romeo and Juliet so much... (then again, it wasn't for that scene. I actually enjoyed Romeo's thing where he's using religious innuendo... it was funny)

And I'm not Catholic.

OMG, THAT ONE IS MY FAVORITE AFTER P&P!!!! Well, according to the DVD versions, but seriously... both versions are better than the versions of everything else, excluding P&P, which is my favorite JA.

Sorry about the caps. It had to be done. :p
No worries. 'Tis only natural to be excited about Austen discussion. :p

Bah, Shakespeare does it in Romeo and Juliet, and that's considered a classic, so it does make for good writing...
Of course, I didn't like Romeo and Juliet so much... (then again, it wasn't for that scene. I actually enjoyed Romeo's thing where he's using religious innuendo... it was funny)

And I'm not Catholic.

I like Shakespeare. We just finished reading Macbeth and I've also read Julius Caesar. Good stuff. Then I guess I'm a bit of a Romeo ;)

High?
Do you even need to ask?

That'll be another $100. :)
Yer capitalist dog! *brings out shovels and pitchforks* LET US OVERTHROW THIS TYRANNICAL OPPRESSION, COMRADES! We shall establish our own classless and equal society where money does not mean a thing!

*charges at Europa with a pitchfork*

Yer capitalist dog! *brings out shovels and pitchforks* LET US OVERTHROW THIS TYRANNICAL OPPRESSION, COMRADES! We shall establish our own classless and equal society where money does not mean a thing!

*charges at Europa with a pitchfork*
*Calls security and has you locked up in a privately owned mental institution*

Pfft...non-conformists. :rolleyes:

PS: Dogs are socialist; felines are capitalist. ;)

I like Shakespeare. We just finished reading Macbeth and I've also read Julius Caesar. Good stuff. Then I guess I'm a bit of a Romeo ;)

Not such a fan of Shakespeare. Then again, I'm a writer, so it's a lot harder to impress me. And it's possible that I'm jealous... (tho I don't THINK so....) Of course, most English classes haven't had me read it properly. When I read it properly (that is to say, with a wink) I love it... hm.... Okay, I like Shakespeare. As long as I'm not reading a complete tragedy (Macbeth, Hamlet). I love Much Ado About Nothing! I even memorized that one thing... "Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more, men were deceivers ever, one foot on sea and one on shore, to one thing constant never, so sigh not so, but let them go, and be you blithe and bonny, converting all your sounds of woe into 'Hey nonny nonny!' Sing no more ditties, sing no more of dumps so dull and heavy, the fraud of men was ever so since summer first was leafy, so sigh not so, but let them go, and be you blithe and bonny, converting all your sounds of woe into 'Hey nonny nonny!'"

Bit of a Juliet myself. Especially that one monologue where she's pissed off at night not coming...

No worries. 'Tis only natural to be excited about Austen discussion.

Yep!!!

*Calls security and has you locked up in a privately owned mental institution*

Pfft...non-conformists. :rolleyes:

PS: Dogs are socialist; felines are capitalist. ;)
*cries*

*straps bombs to self and suicide bombs the mental institution*

HA! You lost precious money because your building was destroyed! *points and laughs*

Edit: Didn't see the PS, but shit...that means I'm capitalist too...*kills self* :p

High?
Yes!

*cries*

*straps bombs to self and suicide bombs the mental institution*

HA! You lost precious money because your building was destroyed! *points and laughs*

Edit: Didn't see the PS, but shit...that means I'm capitalist too...*kills self* :p
Shit! Someone quick get the vodka!

*Calls security and has you locked up in a privately owned mental institution*

Pfft...non-conformists. :rolleyes:

PS: Dogs are socialist; felines are capitalist. ;)

No, dogs are socialist, cats are anarchists.

... oh, whoops. I was always socialist, but I guess I really should be anarchist...

Actually, I take that back. I think cats are just hedonistic. Dogs are socialist, cats just don't care. Benjamin should have been a cat, not a donkey! Orwell got it wrong!

Not such a fan of Shakespeare. Then again, I'm a writer, so it's a lot harder to impress me. And it's possible that I'm jealous... (tho I don't THINK so....) Of course, most English classes haven't had me read it properly. When I read it properly (that is to say, with a wink) I love it... hm.... Okay, I like Shakespeare. As long as I'm not reading a complete tragedy (Macbeth, Hamlet). I love Much Ado About Nothing! I even memorized that one thing... "Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more, men were deceivers ever, one foot on sea and one on shore, to one thing constant never, so sigh not so, but let them go, and be you blithe and bonny, converting all your sounds of woe into 'Hey nonny nonny!' Sing no more ditties, sing no more of dumps so dull and heavy, the fraud of men was ever so since summer first was leafy, so sigh not so, but let them go, and be you blithe and bonny, converting all your sounds of woe into 'Hey nonny nonny!'"

Bit of a Juliet myself. Especially that one monologue where she's pissed off at night not coming...



Yep!!!

Interesting, I've dabbled in writing before. I think I'm pretty good at it. Though, I don't have the attention span to finish anything I start. For class one time we had to give a speech and I managed to memorize the entire St.Crispin's Day Speech from Henry V. Of course, I've long since forgotten it "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" that's my favorite line.

No, dogs are socialist, cats are anarchists.

... oh, whoops. I was always socialist, but I guess I really should be anarchist...

Actually, I take that back. I think cats are just hedonistic. Dogs are socialist, cats just don't care. Benjamin should have been a cat, not a donkey! Orwell got it wrong!
Given that animals have no concept of monetary exchanges, I'd have to agree. :p Dogs are slaves, cats anarcho-individualists. :)

I like Shakespeare. We just finished reading Macbeth and I've also read Julius Caesar. Good stuff. Then I guess I'm a bit of a Romeo ;)
Reading Macbeth right now in English. If I read it for pleasure, I probably wouldn't be absolutely hating it.

Given that animals have no concept of monetary exchanges, I'd have to agree. :p Dogs are slaves, cats anarcho-individualists. :)
*resurrects*

I'm an anarcho-individualist. :D

Reading Macbeth right now in English. If I read it for pleasure, I probably wouldn't be absolutely hating it.

I thought it was a good play. Showed the inner workings of macbeth's psyche as the play progressed. I like character developement.

*resurrects*

I'm an anarcho-individualist. :D
In a non-economic sense, so am I. ;)

:( *resurrects*

I'm an anarcho-individualist. :D

I thought it was a good play. Showed the inner workings of macbeth's psyche as the play progressed. I like character developement.
I here clocks in my head..

In a non-economic sense, so am I. ;)
I still love you in a sisterly-non-sexual way despite your economical...notions. :p

I thought it was a good play. Showed the inner workings of macbeth's psyche as the play progressed. I like character developement.
He's gone completely fucking looney. Seeing Banquo's ghost, the floating dagger, killing Macduff's family. Fucking looney man.

I here clocks in my head..

Shut up PA hater!!

I thought it was a good play. Showed the inner workings of macbeth's psyche as the play progressed. I like character developement.
But I still believe Hamlet is far more superior to Macbeth. Then again, A Midsummer Night's Dream pwns all Shakespeare plays.

He's gone completely fucking looney. Seeing Banquo's ghost, the floating dagger, killing Macduff's family. Fucking looney man.

Yep, each act of murder becomes more and more senseless as his mind deteriorates.

Shut up PA hater!!
I blew PA up... so there is nothing to hate about it :D

But I still believe Hamlet is far more superior to Macbeth. Then again, A Midsummer Night's Dream pwns all Shakespeare plays.

I don't know about Hamlet but I have to agree with the Midsummer Night's Dream.

Yep, each act of murder becomes more and more senseless as his mind deteriorates.
His sense of immortality did not help with that either. "None of woman born shall harm Macbeth"? That's practically begging him to be reckless.

I blew PA up... so there is nothing to hate about it :D

I...will...end you!!!!

His sense of immortality did not help with that either. "None of woman born shall harm Macbeth"? That's practically begging him to be reckless.

I like it when Macduff finally confronts him. "...Macduff was from his mother's womb, untimely ripped". That totally destroys the witch's prophecies which Macbeth clung onto so much.

But I still believe Hamlet is far more superior to Macbeth. Then again, A Midsummer Night's Dream pwns all Shakespeare plays.

Ugh, NO! I had to do that one twice in school, once in 5th, once in 12th, and I hate it! Hamlet needs a sense of direction! More accurately, he needs to ignore the ghost and enjoy Ophelia. If only Polonius hadn't told Ophelia to ignore Hamlet, everything would have been alright... ;)

A Midsummer Night's Dream is cool, but I still like Much Ado About Nothing. Of course, I haven't decided which one is better, so it doesn't follow that I'm disagreeing with you.... oh, and Two Gentlemen of Verona is cool too.

I...will...end you!!!!
:sniper:

I still love you in a sisterly-non-sexual way despite your economical...notions. :p
Rest assured, the feelings are reciprocal. :) :fluffle:

I like it when Macduff finally confronts him. "...Macduff was from his mother's womb, untimely ripped". That totally destroys the witch's prophecies which Macbeth clung onto so much.

Hey, that one spirit did try to warn him...
And that's probably my favorite scene too! YES!

:sniper:

Ha! The tin foil on my head used to keep the government MINDAR waves out has deflected your bullets!

Hey, that one spirit did try to warn him...
And that's probably my favorite scene too! YES!

When Macbeth meets the witches the second time and he sees the three specters. The first none was a helmeted head. Later on Macduff beheads macbeth, thus the head in the vision was Macbeth.

Ha! The tin foil on my head used to keep the government MINDAR waves out has deflected your bullets!
:(

:(

Loser!

Ugh, NO! I had to do that one twice in school, once in 5th, once in 12th, and I hate it! Hamlet needs a sense of direction! More accurately, he needs to ignore the ghost and enjoy Ophelia. If only Polonius hadn't told Ophelia to ignore Hamlet, everything would have been alright... ;)

A Midsummer Night's Dream is cool, but I still like Much Ado About Nothing. Of course, I haven't decided which one is better, so it doesn't follow that I'm disagreeing with you.... oh, and Two Gentlemen of Verona is cool too.
Still, Hamlet the play was very beautifully written. I also liked the plot better than that of Macbeth. Macbeth followed too closely with the classical plotline of Greek tragedies, which makes me bored of it. Macbeth does have "Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing", which is one of the best quotes of ALL TIME.

When Macbeth meets the witches the second time and he sees the three specters. The first none was a helmeted head. Later on Macduff beheads macbeth, thus the head in the vision was Macbeth.

*blinks* I totally didn't think about that! Whoa, that's awesome! I buy it! Of course, if it was Macbeth, he already knew that he warned himself and that it didn't work, so why is he trying to warn himself? Oh no, circles... they're going to start hurting my brain very soon. Uh-oh, they've started...

Loser!
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/egoshooter.gif

*blinks* I totally didn't think about that! Whoa, that's awesome! I buy it! Of course, if it was Macbeth, he already knew that he warned himself and that it didn't work, so why is he trying to warn himself? Oh no, circles... they're going to start hurting my brain very soon. Uh-oh, they've started...

The head was helmeted. Thus, he wouldn't be able to tell who it was. besides, it was a vision and they're usually sketchy. I like how things come full circle.

Rest assured, the feelings are reciprocal. :) :fluffle:
:eek: I get a fluffle from the almighty Europa? *faints like a giddy school girl*

http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/egoshooter.gif

I'm gonna godmode here, so your bullet missed

*Sticks tounge out*

Still, Hamlet the play was very beautifully written. I also liked the plot better than that of Macbeth. Macbeth followed too closely with the classical plotline of Greek tragedies, which makes me bored of it. Macbeth does have "Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing", which is one of the best quotes of ALL TIME.

Most people love the "a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more" the most, but my favorite parts are "It is a tale, told by an idiot" and "signifying nothing" because that's so much fun! The first one is a fun idea that is SO true, and the second one is just a poetic combination of words that tickles my writer's brain.

Most people love the "a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more" the most, but my favorite parts are "It is a tale, told by an idiot" and "signifying nothing" because that's so much fun! The first one is a fun idea that is SO true, and the second one is just a poetic combination of words that tickles my writer's brain.
Yes, I actually like the second part more too. I also like Lady Macbeth's plea to the evil spirits at the beginning of the play to "un-sex" her and make her blood thick.

:eek: I get a fluffle from the almight Europa? *faints like a giddy school girl*

Yeah, well, I got one out of Kulikovo, so MEH!

Okay, we can both be giddy school girls :p

Yeah, well, I got one out of Kulikovo, so MEH!

Okay, we can both be giddy school girls :p

I do my best ;)

It was an honor and a pleasure to give you a fluffle :D

These people advised you not to tell her? I'm ashamed. Tell her. What's worse than the pain of the truth? The placebo of non-disclosure. Hurry, before this situation becomes as hopeless as that last metaphor I made.

Yes, I actually like the second part more too. I also like Lady Macbeth's plea to the evil spirits at the beginning of the play to "un-sex" her and make her blood thick.

Oh yeah, that's hilarious. Total gender role switch for Macbeth and Lady Macbeth in the play, but then Shakespeare shows how that screws up life, and how we are ultimately still members of our gender in the end... er... if you analyze it like an English teacher...

*Note to self, do NOT become an English teacher, or you will stop enjoying the books you so enjoy now. And you will analyze everything. Exactly the way you hate that English teachers do. Okay, just remember, grass being green is NOT a symbol....

:eek: I get a fluffle from the almighty Europa? *faints like a giddy school girl*
So you never gonna wash yourself again? :p

Yes, I actually like the second part more too. I also like Lady Macbeth's plea to the evil spirits at the beginning of the play to "un-sex" her and make her blood thick.

She asked the devil to do that so she'd have the strength to take part in the murder.

I do my best ;)

It was an honor and a pleasure to give you a fluffle :D

Well I should hope so. I am a goddess. Lada said so. :p

Well I should hope so. I am a goddess. Lada said so. :p

And so you are ;)

*Gives another cheesy smile*

Oh yeah, that's hilarious. Total gender role switch for Macbeth and Lady Macbeth in the play, but then Shakespeare shows how that screws up life, and how we are ultimately still members of our gender in the end... er... if you analyze it like an English teacher...

*Note to self, do NOT become an English teacher, or you will stop enjoying the books you so enjoy now. And you will analyze everything. Exactly the way you hate that English teachers do. Okay, just remember, grass being green is NOT a symbol....
Screwed up too, because the switched, and then slowly switched back. I guess Macbeth's ego couldn't take a woman wearing the pants in a relationship for too long. :p

So you never gonna wash yourself again? :p
*considers it*

*bookmarks the post with Europa's fluffles in it*

Nah, I'll wash. I'll just have to make sure to lay eyes on your fluffle every time I finish washing. :p

And so you are ;)

*Gives another cheesy smile*

Good boy. *pats on head*

Ah, you deserve it. :fluffle:

Screwed up too, because the switched, and then slowly switched back. I guess Macbeth's ego couldn't take a woman wearing the pants in a relationship for too long. :p

Of course not. This is Shakespeare's time. Nowadays, guys seem to be fine with women in pants, as long as they get pants too.

And in the relationship, if they get to get into said pants too. ;)

Good boy. *pats on head*

Ah, you deserve it. :fluffle:

Kind of kinky. My mother warned me about women like you...oh well :fluffle:

*considers it*

*bookmarks the post with Europa's fluffles in it*

Nah, I'll wash. I'll just have to make sure to lay eyes on your fluffle every time I finish washing. :p
Good thinking. ;)

Of course not. This is Shakespeare's time. Nowadays, guys seem to be fine with women in pants, as long as they get pants too.

And in the relationship, if they get to get into said pants too. ;)
So nowadays, guys are happy if they can get into their own pants? I know the obesity problem in the US is pretty bad, but I didn't think it was THAT bad. :p

Well, you know what they say: the best way to a man's heart is through his stomach, with an ax. ;)

Kind of kinky. My mother warned me about women like you...oh well :fluffle:

Women like me? Trust me, there's NO woman like ME. Besides myself.

Uh-oh, this might turn into a fluffle fest... well, Europa and Lada will just have to fluffle more too!

So nowadays, guys are happy if they can get into their own pants? I know the obesity problem in the US is pretty bad, but I didn't think it was THAT bad. :p

Well, you know what they say: the best way to a man's heart is through his stomach, with an ax. ;)

Actually, I meant into the women's pants, but sure, that too... :p

Lol, I like that butchering of the quote!
Er... that pun wasn't intended when I wrote it... but I like it too much to switch now that I've seen it!

Women like me? Trust me, there's NO woman like ME. Besides myself.

Uh-oh, this might turn into a fluffle fest... well, Europa and Lada will just have to fluffle more too!
Alas, I sparingly use my fluffles. Same with most smilies besides ":rolleyes:".

Women like me? Trust me, there's NO woman like ME. Besides myself.

Uh-oh, this might turn into a fluffle fest... well, Europa and Lada will just have to fluffle more too!

She warned me about sexy women temptresses who lure men into their webs of flufflefests.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

I guess I didn't listen to my mother too well.

She warned me about sexy women temptresses who lure men into their webs of flufflefests.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

I guess I didn't listen to my mother too well.

Why would you want to refrain from flufflefests? Silly mother. :p

Alas, I sparingly use my fluffles. Same with most smilies besides ":rolleyes: ".

Well, that's no fun. (Naw, I can understand, I used to be that way too. Then I started saying things where people needed to know that I was joking, or that I was very happy, etc., and so the smilies became a must.)

Actually, I meant into the women's pants, but sure, that too... :p

Lol, I like that butchering of the quote!
Er... that pun wasn't intended when I wrote it... but I like it too much to switch now that I've seen it!
I know what you meant, but it could also be taken the other way, so I thought I might as well have some fun with it. :D

teehee, good job with the puns.

Well, that's no fun. (Naw, I can understand, I used to be that way too. Then I started saying things where people needed to know that I was joking, or that I was very happy, etc., and so the smilies became a must.)
That's when I use them too sometimes. ;) It helps clarify things.

Pride and Prejudice, you've turned me into a fluffle addicted maniac...But I like it!

Alas, I sparingly use my fluffles. Same with most smilies besides ":rolleyes:".
but fluffles are fun! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

but fluffles are fun! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Well, here's one more for you then. ;) :fluffle:

:confused:

Pride and Prejudice, you've turned me into a fluffle addicted maniac...But I like it!

You didn't fluffle like this before? Actually I hadn't fluffled before... I guess we're just fluffle-mates.

:fluffle:

Well, here's one more for you then. ;) :fluffle:
THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE!

*passes out again*

How did a thread over giving a kid advice turn into a fluffle contest?

:confused:

I think you're just going to have to read the past few pages....

You didn't fluffle like this before? Actually I hadn't fluffled before... I guess we're just fluffle-mates.

:fluffle:

Like I said. Fluffling with you's like having a religious experience :fluffle:

I think you're just going to have to read the past few pages....
Nahh





i have the munchiecas

Like I said. Fluffling with you's like having a religious experience :fluffle:

Yup. :fluffle:

How did a thread over giving a kid advice turn into a fluffle contest?

You're going to have to go back to where Lada worships me and calls me a goddess. About page 7, I think...

THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE!

*passes out again*
*Hands Ladamesansmerci an autograph and avoids the flashing cameras*

S'amuse bien. :p Nighty night.

Yup. :fluffle:



You're going to have to go back to where Lada worships me and calls me a goddess. About page 7, I think...
Ahh...well. I'll just take your word on it.

*Hands Ladamesansmerci an autograph and avoids the flashing cameras*

S'amuse bien. :p Nighty night.
Is the autograph happen to be signed on your picture? ;)

Wait - who was it that wanted my picture the next time I'm around?

I don't think I could possibly fluffle with anyone besides Pride and Prejudice now. This has been the best fluffle in my life! ;)

Wait - who was it that wanted my picture the next time I'm around?

It wasn't me but I'll take it ;)

Wait - who was it that wanted my picture the next time I'm around?
Dinaverg. He asks for everybody's pictures (as long as you're a girl).

I don't think I could possibly fluffle with anyone besides Pride and Prejudice now. This has been the best fluffle in my life! ;)

I'm telling you - fluffle-mates. :D

I'm telling you - fluffle-mates. :D

It's like we were meant to fluffle :fluffle:

Oh. I'd rather give it to Kulikovo than Dinaverg. Dinaverg is not my fluffle-mate.

It's like we were meant to fluffle :fluffle:

Yes, we were difinitely meant to fluffle! :fluffle:

Yes, we were difinitely meant to fluffle! :fluffle:
:rolleyes:

Will you two at least get a room? This IS a public forum.

Oh. I'd rather give it to Kulikovo than Dinaverg. Dinaverg is not my fluffle-mate.

Hell yeah!!

:rolleyes:

Will you two at least get a room? This IS a public forum.

It's not our fault fluffling makes you uncomfortable.

Is the autograph happen to be signed on your picture? ;)
Wouldn't be an autograph otherwise, now would it? ;) Bonne nuit.

:rolleyes:

Will you two at least get a room? This IS a public forum.

Sorry.

But we were only fluffling... ;)

Wouldn't be an autograph otherwise, now would it? ;) Bonne nuit.
A bientot, mon cher.

*sees people fluffling each other, sighs, and leaves thread*

Wouldn't be an autograph otherwise, now would it? ;) Bonne nuit.

That was French!
I don't know French....

A bientot, mon cher.

*sees people fluffling each other, sighs, and leaves thread*

Whoops. I think we hijacked the thread. Into fluffling.

Sorry.

But we were only fluffling... ;)

Don't applogize! Let's let the world know we're fluffle-mates! :fluffle:

Don't applogize! Let's let the world know we're fluffle-mates! :fluffle:
Yes, we know. Now stop it already! :mad:

Yes, we know. Now stop it already! :mad:

Kulikovo, is it just me, or do you have the general feeling that they know?

Okay British Stereotypes, I think we can be done fluffling on this thread. Although we're still fluffle-mates. :D


.... Oh, wow, I just realized that if I turn your name into its initials like I usually do, it becomes BS...

Kulikovo, is it just me, or do you have the general feeling that they know?

Okay British Stereotypes, I think we can be done fluffling on this thread. Although we're still fluffle-mates. :D


.... Oh, wow, I just realized that if I turn your name into its initials like I usually do, it becomes BS...

I think you're right...they know of our fluffle-relationship. I apologize for clogging up this thread with fluffles and fluffle related acts.

Yes, we're still fluffle-mates

I think you're right...they know of our fluffle-relationship. I apologize for clogging up this thread with fluffles and fluffle related acts.

Yes, we're still fluffle-mates

Yeah. I think we'd better stop the fluffling. I've already pissed off people with a different identity this week. I really can't be afraid of getting angry telegrams on two of them during one week... :(

Okay British Stereotypes, I think we can be done fluffling on this thread. Although we're still fluffle-mates. :D


That's fantastic! My urge to strangle someone has been temporarily lessened.

Yeah. I think we'd better stop the fluffling. I've already pissed off people with a different identity this week. I really can't be afraid of getting angry telegrams on two of them during one week... :(

I understand. Does this mean we can never fluffle again? Or just not on this thread? :(

I understand. Does this mean we can never fluffle again? Or just not on this thread? :(

.... I don't suppose that telegramed fluffling is quite the same, is it?