NationStates Jolt Archive


Sterotypes of Southerners

Wilgrove
28-05-2006, 00:22
How come when I watch TV, or talk to someone who's never been to the South East of the United States, they always bring up the sterotypes of Southerners? I mean comon people, we're not all Confederate loving, cousin banging, shotgun wielding, moonshine making, black hatin', rednecks who speak with a heavy Southern accent like the Colonel does. Some, well, most of us are actually pretty decent folks. It's just the idiots who was born from two, moonshine drinking cousins that are the sterotypical Southerners. So comon, let's knock off the whole We wear overalls with no shoes and make love with pigs sterotypes!
GarfieldtheFat
28-05-2006, 00:31
How come when I watch TV, or talk to someone who's never been to the South East of the United States, they always bring up the sterotypes of Southerners? I mean comon people, we're not all Confederate loving, cousin banging, shotgun wielding, moonshine making, black hatin', rednecks who speak with a heavy Southern accent like the Colonel does. Some, well, most of us are actually pretty decent folks. It's just the idiots who was born from two, moonshine drinking cousins that are the sterotypical Southerners. So comon, let's knock off the whole We wear overalls with no shoes and make love with pigs sterotypes!

Never been to Halls Crossroads TN have we;). Lived there for year and hated it

And I've lived in the south my whole life
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 00:33
we'll stop with ours when you stop with yours;)

actually, come to think of it, I enjoy being called a New England liberal elite....
Greill
28-05-2006, 00:33
Ugh. I, as a Texan who does not conform to any of the ridiculous criteria of the perceptions of southerners, hate southern stereotypes, much as I can't stand any other stereotypes based on a group of people due to something that they are, instead of basing them on what they've done. These 50's era stereotypes are absolutely terrible, and those who perpetuate them are arrogant, self-righteous and full of themselves.
IL Ruffino
28-05-2006, 00:36
we'll stop with ours when you stop with yours;)

actually, come to think of it, I enjoy being called a New England liberal elite....
NE Americans are the best.
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 00:39
NE Americans are the best.
New England, closely matched by our mid-atlantic Northeastern pals:p
Pride and Prejudice
28-05-2006, 00:39
How come when I watch TV, or talk to someone who's never been to the South East of the United States, they always bring up the sterotypes of Southerners? I mean comon people, we're not all Confederate loving, cousin banging, shotgun wielding, moonshine making, black hatin', rednecks who speak with a heavy Southern accent like the Colonel does. Some, well, most of us are actually pretty decent folks. It's just the idiots who was born from two, moonshine drinking cousins that are the sterotypical Southerners. So comon, let's knock off the whole We wear overalls with no shoes and make love with pigs sterotypes!

.... I've never heard of some of these. (And some of them I have heard of, but...) Impressive. Maybe some of them are starting to fade?

Heh, I'd appreciate it if some of the stereotypes for other places went away too, while we're at it. Like, as previously mentioned, the New England elite thing, as well as the California either-queer-or-a-prostitute-and-possibly-both nonsense that I think has finally gone away in some places...
German Nightmare
28-05-2006, 00:41
But moonshine is yummy! :D
The Black Forrest
28-05-2006, 00:43
Ok. I have relatives in Alabama and Arkansas. So let's look at your comments:

How come when I watch TV, or talk to someone who's never been to the South East of the United States, they always bring up the sterotypes of Southerners? I mean comon people, we're not all Confederate

They are.

loving cousin banging, Try not to consider the possiblity.

shotgun wielding,
They are.
moonshine making,
They do.
black hatin',
I first heard the word ****** from them.
rednecks who speak with a heavy Southern accent like the Colonel does.

Actually they do.

Some, well, most of us are actually pretty decent folks. It's just the idiots who was born from two, moonshine drinking cousins that are the sterotypical Southerners. So comon, let's knock off the whole We wear overalls with no shoes and make love with pigs sterotypes!

You just described some of my family :rolleyes: So what's your compliant?
Kulikovo
28-05-2006, 00:44
Deliverance...need I say more?
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 00:45
.... I've never heard of some of these. (And some of them I have heard of, but...) Impressive. Maybe some of them are starting to fade?

Heh, I'd appreciate it if some of the stereotypes for other places went away too, while we're at it. Like, as previously mentioned, the New England elite thing, as well as the California either-queer-or-a-prostitute-and-possibly-both nonsense that I think has finally gone away in some places...
the weird thing about the whole New England liberal intellectual elite thing is that many of us take it as a compliment. We're proud to have some of the best schools in the world, and to be forward thinking. If that makes us elite, so be it.

Of course, there are some that aren't true, such as us all being puritains, but hey, I think having three of the 6 New England states allowing civil unions and gay marriages shows that we aren't so prudish.
IL Ruffino
28-05-2006, 00:46
New England, closely matched by our mid-atlantic Northeastern pals:p
*names states on fingers*
*thinks*

PA is New England.. right?? :(
Laerod
28-05-2006, 00:48
*names states on fingers*
*thinks*

PA is New England.. right?? :(Nope.
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 00:49
*names states on fingers*
*thinks*

PA is New England.. right?? :(
haha...sadly, no. You guys are part of the northeast, but New England is strictly limited to Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusets, Connecticut, and Rhode Island (goes back to the British imposition of the dominion of New England)

New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania are mid atlantic, even tho they are culturally pretty similar to new england
Kulikovo
28-05-2006, 00:50
haha...sadly, no. You guys are part of the northeast, but New England is strictly limited to Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusets, Connecticut, and Rhode Island (goes back to the British imposition of the dominion of New England)

New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania are mid atlantic, even tho they are culturally pretty similar to new england

Did I hear someone mention...Pennsylvania? :D
IL Ruffino
28-05-2006, 00:51
haha...sadly, no. You guys are part of the northeast, but New England is strictly limited to Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusets, Connecticut, and Rhode Island (goes back to the British imposition of the dominion of New England)

New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania are mid atlantic, even tho they are culturally pretty similar to new england
*cries*

That.. that means I'm a hick. :(
Kulikovo
28-05-2006, 00:52
*cries*

That.. that means I'm a hick. :(

It's okay...It's not your fault.
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 00:52
*cries*

That.. that means I'm a hick. :(
have no fear....you're still above the Mason-Dixon line (Sorry wilgrove...I had to);)
Laerod
28-05-2006, 00:53
Did I hear someone mention...Pennsylvania? :DAh, Pennsylvania...
The state I've never been to, and yet I'm registered to vote there...
IL Ruffino
28-05-2006, 00:53
Did I hear someone mention...Pennsylvania? :D
We're not elite :(

*blows up PA along with self*
Kulikovo
28-05-2006, 00:54
We're not elite :(

*blows up PA along with self*

Blowing up...Pennsylvania?! I...I can't believe...you ungodly monster!!!!
IL Ruffino
28-05-2006, 00:56
have no fear....you're still above the Mason-Dixon line (Sorry wilgrove...I had to);)
:p

And I first thought Wilgrove was from PA. Because there's a place in PA called Willow Grove..
Teh_pantless_hero
28-05-2006, 00:58
How come when I watch TV, or talk to someone who's never been to the South East of the United States, they always bring up the sterotypes of Southerners? I mean comon people, we're not all Confederate loving, cousin banging, shotgun wielding, moonshine making, black hatin', rednecks who speak with a heavy Southern accent like the Colonel does. Some, well, most of us are actually pretty decent folks. It's just the idiots who was born from two, moonshine drinking cousins that are the sterotypical Southerners. So comon, let's knock off the whole We wear overalls with no shoes and make love with pigs sterotypes!
You obviously live in a major city or major city suburb.

Ugh. I, as a Texan who does not conform to any of the ridiculous criteria of the perceptions of southerners, hate southern stereotypes, much as I can't stand any other stereotypes based on a group of people due to something that they are, instead of basing them on what they've done. These 50's era stereotypes are absolutely terrible, and those who perpetuate them are arrogant, self-righteous and full of themselves.
This is obviously because you are paying attentions to the wrong stereotypes. Texas is not the "South east," the "south," or even the "southwest." Texas is Texas, look for Texan stereotypes.
Wilgrove
28-05-2006, 01:00
You obviously live in a major city or major city suburb.


This is obviously because you are paying attentions to the wrong stereotypes. Texas is not the "South east," the "south," or even the "southwest." Texas is Texas, look for Texan stereotypes.

Actually in the middle of no where in the state of North Carolina.
IL Ruffino
28-05-2006, 01:00
Blowing up...Pennsylvania?! I...I can't believe...you ungodly monster!!!!
:p
CSW
28-05-2006, 01:02
have no fear....you're still above the Mason-Dixon line (Sorry wilgrove...I had to);)
What about delaware? Technically it's below the mason dixon line, but we're the only southern state to stay loyal to the union without being forced to at gun point. That has to mean something?
Good Lifes
28-05-2006, 01:04
NE Americans are the best.
I assume you mean NEBRASKA. Big Red will be back!
Greyenivol Colony
28-05-2006, 01:06
moves this from the clonethread:
I am from Britain, and consider myself quite the dixiphile. There's something about the south-east USA that is so much more romantic than the rest of the country. I know politically the place is a bit weird, but I always assume there is at least one Atticus Finch (from 'to kill a mocking bird') to every ignorant red-neck.

*whistles dixie for a bit, then pushes 'submit reply'*

responds to this thread:
Wow. You Northerners are ignorant, spiteful, and just plain bad neighbours. If I shared a nation with folks like you guys I would vote for ceccession as soon as possible. Hell, as a Yorkshireman I like to bemoan our bloody-southerners acting like they own the place, with their London-centric weather forecasts and their long-A's, but you guys make them seem like bliss in comparison.

No wonder the South ceceded during the Civil War.

*bemoans New English rudeness, whistles dixie again (it is pretty catchy), then pushes 'submit reply'*
Wilgrove
28-05-2006, 01:07
moves this from the clonethread:
I am from Britain, and consider myself quite the dixiphile. There's something about the south-east USA that is so much more romantic than the rest of the country. I know politically the place is a bit weird, but I always assume there is at least one Atticus Finch (from 'to kill a mocking bird') to every ignorant red-neck.

*whistles dixie for a bit, then pushes 'submit reply'*

responds to this thread:
Wow. You Northerners are ignorant, spiteful, and just plain bad neighbours. If I shared a nation with folks like you guys I would vote for ceccession as soon as possible. Hell, as a Yorkshireman I like to bemoan our bloody-southerners acting like they own the place, with their London-centric weather forecasts and their long-A's, but you guys make them seem like bliss in comparison.

No wonder the South ceceded during the Civil War.

*bemoans New English rudeness, whistles dixie again (it is pretty catchy), then pushes 'submit reply'*

Yea, Dixie is catchy.
Good Lifes
28-05-2006, 01:09
The only part of the US that I can't stand is Miami. I suppose someone will tell me there are polite people that live there, but they sure don't work in the tourist industry or service industries.

As for southern sereotypes. Living in Missouri, a border state, there is a difference between the people of the North and South. Both have good and bad points, but the South is still the South and the North is still the North.
Kulikovo
28-05-2006, 01:13
:p

You are my sworn nemesis form this day on. I will end you!

:eek: :sniper:
AB Again
28-05-2006, 01:16
Wow. You Northerners are ignorant, spiteful, and just plain bad neighbours. If I shared a nation with folks like you guys I would vote for ceccession as soon as possible. Hell, as a Yorkshireman I like to bemoan our bloody-southerners acting like they own the place, with their London-centric weather forecasts and their long-A's, but you guys make them seem like bliss in comparison.

No wonder the South ceceded during the Civil War.


Still haven't quite got over losing that roses war thing have you. :p

It kind of makes sense that a Yorshireman would be supportive of the Southerners in the USA. They have a lot in common. (lost a civil war, are isolationist and rude to outsiders, think that they are the best regardless of the evidence etc.) ;)

(I lived 10 years in West Yorkshire, so I actually quite like tykes.)
Darnaysia
28-05-2006, 01:19
Hey some of the kindest people that I have met from the U.S.are from southern states, and some of the biggest assholes I have met are from the Northern states.(Not all in either group, I don't know too many Yanks anyways.) But from what I've seen, travelling to South Carolina, people really do have a "twangy" accent, neat, a bit humourous, though. :p (BTW,I love the States' don't kill me.)
DesignatedMarksman
28-05-2006, 01:21
These threads seem to pop up once a week.
Greyenivol Colony
28-05-2006, 01:23
Still haven't quite got over losing that roses war thing have you. :p

It kind of makes sense that a Yorshireman would be supportive of the Southerners in the USA. They have a lot in common. (lost a civil war, are isolationist and rude to outsiders, think that they are the best regardless of the evidence etc.) ;)

(I lived 10 years in West Yorkshire, so I actually quite like tykes.)

I'd lahk't think of't as's unt'dogs stickin' t'gether. But I guess you could phrase it either way, lol.
Darnaysia
28-05-2006, 01:23
American Conflict rocks, people don't sit around apologising, they speak their minds!
AB Again
28-05-2006, 01:31
I'd lahk't think of't as's unt'dogs stickin' t'gether. But I guess you could phrase it either way, lol.

Aye tha taint far wrong there lad.
DesignatedMarksman
28-05-2006, 01:33
American Conflict rocks, people don't sit around apologising, they speak their minds!


:D
Francis Street
28-05-2006, 01:35
I hate the US South for its politics. It's nearly as bad as the Middle East.
Rhaomi
28-05-2006, 02:16
I don't get the stereotypes either. Yes, the South is conservative, religious, and has a few farmers. But saying it's full of rednecks and hillbillies is just as ignorant as saying that California is full of hippies.

The South is now more or less like any other region of the United States: suburbs, chain stores, highways, etc. The only real difference is that churches and Republicans tend to be a little bit thicker on the ground there than elsewhere.
Adollias
28-05-2006, 02:26
moves this from the clonethread:
I am from Britain, and consider myself quite the dixiphile. There's something about the south-east USA that is so much more romantic than the rest of the country. I know politically the place is a bit weird, but I always assume there is at least one Atticus Finch (from 'to kill a mocking bird') to every ignorant red-neck.

*whistles dixie for a bit, then pushes 'submit reply'*

responds to this thread:
Wow. You Northerners are ignorant, spiteful, and just plain bad neighbours. If I shared a nation with folks like you guys I would vote for ceccession as soon as possible. Hell, as a Yorkshireman I like to bemoan our bloody-southerners acting like they own the place, with their London-centric weather forecasts and their long-A's, but you guys make them seem like bliss in comparison.

No wonder the South ceceded during the Civil War.

*bemoans New English rudeness, whistles dixie again (it is pretty catchy), then pushes 'submit reply'*

You are the first British person I have ever not hated. Come on down to Louisiana, you'll fit in just fine.

The South will rise again!
Ukantbeserious
28-05-2006, 02:27
Deliverance...need I say more?
Squeal like a pig?
Rotovia-
28-05-2006, 02:48
The moment you stop living up to the stereotypes. And frankly, the New England states are the homeground of the liberal intellectgensia of America, contrasted with the Dixie states... well, uh, yeah
Kulikovo
28-05-2006, 02:51
Squeal like a pig?

You got a purty mouth, boy

*Squeals*

God, I hate hicks sooo much!
Good Lifes
28-05-2006, 03:02
I don't get the stereotypes either. Yes, the South is conservative, religious, and has a few farmers. But saying it's full of rednecks and hillbillies is just as ignorant as saying that California is full of hippies.

The South is now more or less like any other region of the United States: suburbs, chain stores, highways, etc. The only real difference is that churches and Republicans tend to be a little bit thicker on the ground there than elsewhere.
Stereotypes have a reason for existing. They obviously aren't 100%. But in the south rednecks, less educated, pharrisitical "Christianity" that segregates the races and denies most of Jesus' teachings, beer drinking, a sense of being put down therefore fighting for their place, NASCAR, and the rest dominate.

The steretypes of the north or of California also have roots in the truth.

Not 100% but a valid prediction based on the odds.
Contemplatina
28-05-2006, 03:10
What little I've seen of the Deep South (a small town in Georgia, passed through on a road trip to Florida) fits in with some of the stereotypes, but not all. Really, in the end, people are individuals, and while many I've seen do speak with heavy accents (I couldn't make out that guy at the gas station saying "Paper or plastic?") they are nice people. I don't have any insight on the cousins, shotguns, moonshine, or low intelligence. But I know it is heavily "conservative." (If the Democrats had a values platform, they'd be "liberal.")

Like I said. These things should be based on individual values, not Beverly Hillbillies and Jeff Foxworthy. Let's try to follow the dream of that greatest Southerner of them all.
Potarius
28-05-2006, 04:16
I mean comon people, we're not all... rednecks who speak with a heavy Southern accent like the Colonel does.

It's just the idiots who was born...

Ah jeez. Do you even realise what you've done to yourself with this post?
Tiergania
28-05-2006, 04:26
I think everyone, including black people, Southern people, New Yorkers, Asian people, homosexuals, etc., need to realize that there will ALWAYS be sterotypes. It's no one's fault; just be you. If you fit into the stereotype, then you fit into the stereotype. If you don't, people are still going to prejudge you. Does it suck? Yes. Is there much you can do about it? No.
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 04:41
What about delaware? Technically it's below the mason dixon line, but we're the only southern state to stay loyal to the union without being forced to at gun point. That has to mean something?
yeah, but you're all owned by du pont and the credit card companies :p

The South will rise again!
They rose in the first place?
New Callixtina
28-05-2006, 04:45
The only part of the US that I can't stand is Miami. I suppose someone will tell me there are polite people that live there, but they sure don't work in the tourist industry or service industries.


Having lived in Miami for many years I can say this is very true. In fact, the entire state of Florida has the RUDEST people anywhere, North or South, I don;t know why. So much for the "friendly South". I've been almost everywhere in the US except Nebraska, Alaska and Washington state, and I can tell you honestly, Miami is a toilet. Visit Ft Lauderdale instead.

Don't forget, Miami has the WORST drivers in the US as well:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/rudedrivers.survey.ap/index.html

People love to stick to all of these stereotypes and nitpick at our differences, but believe me, most people in the US are pretty much the same no matter what anyone thinks. Caring, honest, hard working, and generous. There are rude and stupid people everywhere you go, thats just human nature, nothing you can do about it. So lets drop all of the stereotypes OK?
Good Lifes
28-05-2006, 05:58
So lets drop all of the stereotypes OK?
Stereotypes are really predictions based on the odds. We have to make predictions to operate in society. We can not possibly know everyone that we will meet on a given day, so we have to predict the behavior of most people based on the odds. It sounds great to say, don't make a prediction until you know the person, but in reallity how many people can a person possibly know that well. Compare that number to the thousands you come in contact with in your lifetime. There is a difference between prediction and prejudice. Prejudice doesn't allow for the exceptions. Prediction merely says, "most of the time, in this place, in this situation, a person dressed like this, etc., this is true". Odds are you are correct, but not always.
Kanabia
28-05-2006, 07:20
But saying it's full of rednecks and hillbillies is just as ignorant as saying that California is full of hippies.

It's not? :(

Thanks for destroying any redeeming qualities that the US might have had. :mad:

:p
Pill popping Assasins
28-05-2006, 07:33
I came from new york originaly and i had to move to this small litle town called hohenwald tennese{A.k.A hole in the wall} this town fits into the southern steroe type perfectly. you look around a little you see that EVERYONE is related to EVERYONE i even ended up an inbred cat{ i know because of the foot long tounge i measured} and 2 inbred kitens and i saw a four year old walk out of the gun store with a 12 gauge. the south has never died hear and never will *wimpers*
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 07:51
It's not? :(

Thanks for destroying any redeeming qualities that the US might have had. :mad:

:p
we have the NHL!

and, of course, me. :D
Kanabia
28-05-2006, 07:56
we have the NHL!

and, of course, me. :D

Well, okay, I suppose at least it's not the worst place on Earth.

:p
HotRodia
28-05-2006, 07:58
Stereotypes have a reason for existing. They obviously aren't 100%. But in the south rednecks, less educated, pharrisitical "Christianity" that segregates the races and denies most of Jesus' teachings, beer drinking, a sense of being put down therefore fighting for their place, NASCAR, and the rest dominate.

The steretypes of the north or of California also have roots in the truth.

Not 100% but a valid prediction based on the odds.

What's annoying is when you beat those odds, but nobody can tell at first and they treat me like I'm a stupid conservative gun-toting redneck because I say "y'all" or grew up in Texas.
New Callixtina
28-05-2006, 07:58
Stereotypes are really predictions based on the odds. We have to make predictions to operate in society. We can not possibly know everyone that we will meet on a given day, so we have to predict the behavior of most people based on the odds. It sounds great to say, don't make a prediction until you know the person, but in reallity how many people can a person possibly know that well. Compare that number to the thousands you come in contact with in your lifetime. There is a difference between prediction and prejudice. Prejudice doesn't allow for the exceptions. Prediction merely says, "most of the time, in this place, in this situation, a person dressed like this, etc., this is true". Odds are you are correct, but not always.


Hmm. So by your reasoning, I could, for example, based on the ammount of borderline mentally retarded idiots on this forum, that the majority of people who post here are imbecils, yes? WRONG. Just because there are some stupid people who post here does not mean everyone is. Stereotypes are for those who are too stupid or lazy to want to learn more about their community. I treat people as individuals, not groups.
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 08:04
Well, okay, I suppose at least it's not the worst place on Earth.

:p
haha...we do what we can. well, some of us do....

*ahem*
Barbaric Tribes
28-05-2006, 08:25
Deliverance...need I say more?

Indeed.:eek:
Barbaric Tribes
28-05-2006, 08:27
I think everyone, including black people, Southern people, New Yorkers, Asian people, homosexuals, etc., need to realize that there will ALWAYS be sterotypes. It's no one's fault; just be you. If you fit into the stereotype, then you fit into the stereotype. If you don't, people are still going to prejudge you. Does it suck? Yes. Is there much you can do about it? No.

well, unless you wanna take it to a certain extreme, and by that I mean...Genocide. :)
Ravenshrike
28-05-2006, 08:29
We're not elite :(

*blows up PA along with self*
Why couldn't you blow up Jersey instead?
Yootopia
28-05-2006, 08:43
We're all extremely well-spoken and play croquet?
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 08:45
We're all extremely well-spoken and play croquet?
you have bad teeth too.
Yootopia
28-05-2006, 08:55
you have bad teeth too.
Everyone in the UK does. NHS dentists are quite rare, and good ones are even rarer.
Slacker guys
28-05-2006, 09:10
But moonshine is yummy! :D
:headbang: never:headbang: ever:headbang: ever:headbang: drink something you can clean engine parts with:p
Kanabia
28-05-2006, 09:11
:headbang: never:headbang: ever:headbang: ever:headbang: drink something you can clean engine parts with:p

OK, no water for me.
HotRodia
28-05-2006, 09:12
:headbang: never:headbang: ever:headbang: ever:headbang: drink something you can clean engine parts with:p

Actually that sounds like just my kind of drink... :)
Slacker guys
28-05-2006, 09:21
OK, no water for me.
:D Water that cool refreshing drink. Moonshine 199% alcohol that is best used as paint thinner/degreaser that whole going blind things a drag:p
Kanabia
28-05-2006, 09:22
:D Water that cool refreshing drink. Moonshine 199% alcohol that is best used as paint thinner/degreaser that whole going blind things a drag:p

Mmmm, sounds great. Got any on hand?


Actually that sounds like just my kind of drink...

:D
Slacker guys
28-05-2006, 09:31
[QUOTE=Kanabia]Mmmm, sounds great. Got any on hand
:cool: Yeah I hung out with some ausy troops in germany. In America if your drunk but awake they call you a cab
down under if your drunk but awake they call you the designated driver:p
LazyHippies
28-05-2006, 09:51
Ive lived in the south for 2 and a half years now. What Ive found is that you basically have two types of people down here. City folk, and country folk. The city folk tend not to conform to that stereotype much at all (except for the racism part, which really is rampant). But the country folk resemble that stereotype very closely.
Kanabia
28-05-2006, 09:53
:cool: Yeah I hung out with some ausy troops in germany. In America if your drunk but awake they call you a cab
down under if your drunk but awake they call you the designated driver:p

LOL... :D
[NS]Sevenglasses
28-05-2006, 11:05
Weren't black people the majority in the South after the Civil War? Where did they all go?
Greyenivol Colony
28-05-2006, 11:40
Sevenglasses']Weren't black people the majority in the South after the Civil War? Where did they all go?

New Orleans?
Good Lifes
28-05-2006, 15:19
I treat people as individuals, not groups.
This just isn't true. There is no way that you can treat everyone who you meet on the street or in a business as an individual. When you see someone in Wal-Mart with a Wal-Mart vest, you assume they work at Wal-Mart. Artifactual Communications--the same if someone is in a suit or "hippie wear". Yes, a doctor can wear a tie-dye and torn pants, and a hippie can wear a suit, BUT that's not your first thought when you see them on the street. You can NOT take the time to know them individually before deciding. This is true of every casual contact you make. Every person you run into, you make an initial evaluation so that you have a point to start from. The mind simply does not start as a blank slate.

As I said before, prediction is not the problem. Prejudice is the problem. It's when your mind won't allow for the exceptions from the norm. You can say that you are more willing than most to change your mind about your original predictions, BUT if you really look at your thoughts the next time you meet a random individual, you will have to acknowledge immediate predictions.
Chandelier
28-05-2006, 15:33
I've lived in Florida for my entire life. None of these stereotypes seem to be very true in my area (although there are quite a few "red-necks" at my school).
Francis Street
28-05-2006, 15:39
I hate the US South for its politics. It's nearly as bad as the Middle East.

Sevenglasses']Weren't black people the majority in the South after the Civil War? Where did they all go?
No. Blacks were a greater proportion of the population in the South than in the North, but they were never a majority in the region. Also, in the 1920s and after many southern blacks migrated north, which further dispersed their population.
CSW
28-05-2006, 15:42
I hate the US South for its politics. It's nearly as bad as the Middle East.


No. Blacks were a greater proportion of the population in the South than in the North, but they were never a majority in the region. Also, in the 1920s and after many southern blacks migrated north, which further dispersed their population.
Not entirely true. South Carolina pre-revolution was almost 80% black.
Jinsen
28-05-2006, 16:32
New England = Blue States
South = Red States

Enough said.
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 16:35
The stereotyping keeps interest in the South alive.

GOD BLESS DIXIE
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 16:38
Incidently, here's some etymology:

Redneck: Those who worked in the fields were often looking downwards and the Sun burnt their necks; hence making them red.

Hillbilly: Lots of the English immigrants living in the hills named their sons William after the English King, William of Orange.

Yankee: From Jan Kees; not entirely sure; something to do with Dutch cheese.

Carpetbagger: So called because they carried their belongings in carpetbags.
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 16:42
I hate the US South for its politics.

The South sets the way for the rest of America.
Francis Street
28-05-2006, 16:44
The South sets the way for the rest of America.
By the grace of God I hope not. Speaking of which, please stop using His name to justify murder and suffering. As I said, you're hardly better than those Middle Eastern Muslim nuts.

New England = Blue States
South = Red States

Enough said.
The South is communist! ;)
Jinsen
28-05-2006, 16:50
The South is communist! ;)

Nice. If only that were the case. :D
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 17:00
The South is the best part of these United States and I would never live any where else.

http://mariesgiftshop.com/images/Laura%20Leiden/Southerner.jpg

I recently bought a book called 'You're a Rednceck if you...':

Think a volvo is part of a woman's anatomy.
Your bicycle has a gun rack.
You think God looks a lot like Hank Williams Jr.
You've ever started/signed a petition to change the national anthem to Freebird.
You Grandma ever stopped to relieve herself on the side of the highway.
You've ever written Richard Petty's name on a presidential ballot.

We've got to be able to laugh at ourselves.
Angry Fruit Salad
28-05-2006, 17:06
I'm sorry, but I've lived in Georgia my entire life. I have noticed racism coming from blacks, directed at whites. I have noticed a certain pride in "coming from the projects" or the "ghetto." I have NOT noticed anyone bothering to use the word "******" or any other racial slur. Perhaps I am lucky. Perhaps I have managed to avoid most rural areas, as well as most idiots. Either way, I've managed to witness things which disprove most of the stereotypes I've been exposed to.
New Zero Seven
28-05-2006, 17:09
Um.... I think New Mexico is hawt.
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 17:15
I don't know one person who dislikes New Mexico.
GarfieldtheFat
28-05-2006, 17:26
Actually in the middle of no where in the state of North Carolina.


I'm sorry since when has North Carolina (and Vriginia) been Redneck?
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 17:28
The 'derogatory' term 'redneck' is used to describe a citizen of the Deep South normally defind as any where under the Mason-Dixon Line.
Wilgrove
28-05-2006, 18:13
I'm sorry since when has North Carolina (and Vriginia) been Redneck?

We're below the Mason Dixie Line and we were part of the CSA. So that makes the great state of North Carolina a Southern state.
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 18:13
The South sets the way for the rest of America.
no...you currently have power over the federal laws. Lucily, you have no control over our state governments, lest our education systems start to resemble yours (among other things of pride up here, such as the beginnings of equality for more members of society)
The State of Georgia
28-05-2006, 18:19
no...you currently have power over the federal laws. Lucily, you have no control over our state governments, lest our education systems start to resemble yours (among other things of pride up here, such as the beginnings of equality for more members of society)

How about posting that in a language I like to call 'intelligible'?
Sarkhaan
28-05-2006, 18:45
How about posting that in a language I like to call 'intelligible'?
Sorry, I'll speak slower.
You only "lead the nation" in that you have some level of power over the federal laws. You do not "lead the nation" and dictate all of our policy. If you did, our education systems would suck as much as the souths, and we would be banning basic civil rights to portions of our population as well, instead of granting equality.

Basically, you don't "lead" the rest of us in much of anything...unless by "lead" you mean "drag along kicking and screaming". And even then, it is only at the federal level.
New Callixtina
29-05-2006, 19:14
This just isn't true. There is no way that you can treat everyone who you meet on the street or in a business as an individual. When you see someone in Wal-Mart with a Wal-Mart vest, you assume they work at Wal-Mart. Artifactual Communications--the same if someone is in a suit or "hippie wear". Yes, a doctor can wear a tie-dye and torn pants, and a hippie can wear a suit, BUT that's not your first thought when you see them on the street. You can NOT take the time to know them individually before deciding. This is true of every casual contact you make. Every person you run into, you make an initial evaluation so that you have a point to start from. The mind simply does not start as a blank slate.

As I said before, prediction is not the problem. Prejudice is the problem. It's when your mind won't allow for the exceptions from the norm. You can say that you are more willing than most to change your mind about your original predictions, BUT if you really look at your thoughts the next time you meet a random individual, you will have to acknowledge immediate predictions.

You are a retard. There. I am treating you as an individual. An individual who presumes to tell me how I think and treat people based on YOUR prejudices and ignorance. Don't project your tiny mentality on others to make yourself feel better, OK?
EHHS Royals
29-05-2006, 19:36
no.. not all people are like that.. but there's still a shitload of people like that.. and my father's side is from the south.. so all i hear is "the south will rise again" at family reunions. I live in indiana... and where i live is major rednecks, confederate flag waving people.

so when there's atleast 60% that are like that.. those stereotypes will remain

I've been in the south.. lived in the south... but i'm back to living in indiana
so i do know what i'm talkin about... places are worse than others and some don't even have people like that.. well not many anyways..

i'm sorry to say, until the last confederate flag is burned and racism is over.. those stereotypes will remain
Angry Fruit Salad
29-05-2006, 23:45
no.. not all people are like that.. but there's still a shitload of people like that.. and my father's side is from the south.. so all i hear is "the south will rise again" at family reunions. I live in indiana... and where i live is major rednecks, confederate flag waving people.

so when there's atleast 60% that are like that.. those stereotypes will remain

I've been in the south.. lived in the south... but i'm back to living in indiana
so i do know what i'm talkin about... places are worse than others and some don't even have people like that.. well not many anyways..

i'm sorry to say, until the last confederate flag is burned and racism is over.. those stereotypes will remain


Racism is going the other way in urban areas in the South. That Confederate flag bullshit is just that -- a bunch of BULLSHIT. Go into history class -- there are plenty of flags in your book, which are still available in cloth form, which stood for MUCH WORSE THINGS. Hell, there are even flags for countries that have not existed in hundreds of years. Don't blame the flag. Blame the idiot who attaches the ideas to the flag. It is a part of history. If we forget it, we are doomed to repeat it.
Sarkhaan
29-05-2006, 23:51
Racism is going the other way in urban areas in the South. That Confederate flag bullshit is just that -- a bunch of BULLSHIT. Go into history class -- there are plenty of flags in your book, which are still available in cloth form, which stood for MUCH WORSE THINGS. Hell, there are even flags for countries that have not existed in hundreds of years. Don't blame the flag. Blame the idiot who attaches the ideas to the flag. It is a part of history. If we forget it, we are doomed to repeat it.
forgetting it is one thing. Glorifying it is quite another.
Angry Fruit Salad
29-05-2006, 23:52
forgetting it is one thing. Glorifying it is quite another.

It is mostly glorified by ignorant people. Destroying EVERY flag would prompt many to deny that it ever happened. Hell, there are many who denied the Holocaust ever happened because just SOME of the evidence was destroyed.
British Jimmy
30-05-2006, 01:34
NC=amazing
also a Carpet bagger is a white person after the Civil War who came around and exploited the devastation and took peoples things, with help from scalawags.
Katganistan
30-05-2006, 02:01
Incidently, here's some etymology:

Redneck: Those who worked in the fields were often looking downwards and the Sun burnt their necks; hence making them red.

Hillbilly: Lots of the English immigrants living in the hills named their sons William after the English King, William of Orange.

Yankee: From Jan Kees; not entirely sure; something to do with Dutch cheese.

Carpetbagger: So called because they carried their belongings in carpetbags.

Yankee Look up Yankee at Dictionary.com
1683, a name applied disparagingly by Du. settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut. It may be from Du. Janke, lit. "Little John," dim. of common personal name Jan; or it may be from Jan Kes familiar form of "John Cornelius," or perhaps an alt. of Jan Kees, dial. variant of Jan Kaas, lit. "John Cheese," the generic nickname the Flemings used for Dutchmen. It originally seems to have been applied insultingly to Dutch, especially freebooters, before they turned around and slapped it on the English. In Eng. a term of contempt (1750s) before its use as a general term for "native of New England" (1765); during the American Revolution it became a disparaging British word for all American native or inhabitants. Shortened form Yank in reference to "an American" first recorded 1778.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Yankee
Sozialistische Preusen
30-05-2006, 02:02
NE Americans are the best.

I disagree, New Jerseyans are the best, with the NEers coming in a close second. (Unless of course u mean North East by NE, in which case, you're right)