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I go to mass every Saturday night, and everytime we go, for some reason we get to sit near a family with a girl with down syndrome. Well the girl can talk just fine, but when it comes to singing the hymns, she just does aaaaAAaaAaaa. I mean she doesn't even try to at least hum the song, she just does the same noise for every song that we sing during mass. Now I know she can't help it, I know she has Down Syndrome, but it's still annoying, and it ruins the beautiful classical hymns for me. Yes I have tried sitting elsewhere, but I would like to sit with my family, and my family always pick to sit around the down syndrome child. Eh maybe I am a monster, but I still say it's annoying.

If you came up with more drastic measures than sitting elsewhere in order to avoid said discomfort, you would probably deserve the title "monster". However, just disliking that isn't evil in itself.

Get over it.

Oh, and ditch religion, too, while you're at it.

Next time, join in. See how many people you can get to go "AaaAAAaaaAA".

If you came up with more drastic measures than sitting elsewhere in order to avoid said discomfort, you would probably deserve the title "monster". However, just disliking that isn't evil in itself.

I just wish her parents would at least put her in the children section. At least there she can "sing" along and not annoy the people surrounding her. What's even worse is when she does it during the solo portion of the hymns.

Not liking the way someone sings does not make you a monster.

Now if you were to hit her and say shut up bitch. Then you would be a monster;)

You're not a monster. Ask your family if you'uns can sit somewhere else. And that girl's family should have her just stand there silent, instead of singing.

If people scream and run the opposite direction and you have an aversion to garlic/crosses/holy water/silver bullets/etc then you probably are.

I go to mass every Saturday night, and everytime we go, for some reason we get to sit near a family with a girl with down syndrome. Well the girl can talk just fine, but when it comes to singing the hymns, she just does aaaaAAaaAaaa. I mean she doesn't even try to at least hum the song, she just does the same noise for every song that we sing during mass. Now I know she can't help it, I know she has Down Syndrome, but it's still annoying, and it ruins the beautiful classical hymns for me. Yes I have tried sitting elsewhere, but I would like to sit with my family, and my family always pick to sit around the down syndrome child. Eh maybe I am a monster, but I still say it's annoying.that is up to you. it might be that the girl is just tone deaf. thus even tho she can talk normally, singing becomes a problem with her.

It would depend on which is more important. Family or songs. to me, God doesn't care if it's in tune or not, but the music in one's heart.

Get over it.

Oh, and ditch religion, too, while you're at it.
You are the smartest NSer.

Your not a monster, but you're certainly not very sympathetic...

Now if you were to hit her and say shut up bitch. Then you would be a monster;)
I prefer to call it "assertive"

Sing as loud as you can to see if you can drown her out. If not just start screaming at the kid and see if the kid screams back! ;) :D

I prefer to call it "assertive"

Assertive, with extra "Ass".

I prefer to call it "assertive"
:p

Assertive, with extra "Ass".
Bootysertive?

You'll have to define "monster". Awaiting that definition, I'm going with a number of possible ones, and giving only brief responses.

The AHDLE, 4 Ed. says:
"One who inspires horror or disgust: a monster of selfishness. "
I'm sure this line of thinking would inspire horror and disgust in the same type of people who supported the Blue Laws. But it's not specific enough.

WordNet says:
"a cruel, wicked, and inhuman person [syn: fiend, devil, demon, ogre]"
Subjective modifiers, to be sure. Do you feel you were being cruel, wicked, or inhuman by thinking these things? Of course, that's what you're asking anyway, isn't it?

The M-W Medical Dictionary says:
"an animal or plant of abnormal form or structure; especially : a fetus or offspring with a major developmental abnormality <a teratological monster with two heads>"
I'm guessing not.

The evidence for your monstrosity is shaky at best. Rest easy. And provide the definition you want an evaluation against.

i think you have confused mass with a free concert.

everyone is entitled to participate in whatever way they are able, annoying to you or not.

you could CHOOSE to find it inspiring that even a girl with downs syndrome is moved by the music, instead you choose to consider it an imposition on your superior enjoyment.

explain to your family that you would like you ALL to sit in another area as you find this girl annoying.

I prefer to call it "assertive"

OK then he would be and assertive monster :p

i think you have confused mass with a free concert.

everyone is entitled to participate in whatever way they are able, annoying to you or not.

you could CHOOSE to find it inspiring that even a girl with downs syndrome is moved by the music, instead you choose to consider it an imposition on your superior enjoyment.

explain to your family that you would like you ALL to sit in another area as you find this girl annoying.

Tried to, nothing happens. Eh next Saturday I'll just sit with myself somewhere else.

Bootysertive?
my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like, it's better than yours.





or perhaps
I don't think you're ready for this, my body's too bootylicious for ya babe


...


sorry. I'll show myself out.

Get over it.

Oh, and ditch religion, too, while you're at it.

Oh shut up.

Yes, you are. You deseved to be annoyed.

Tried to, nothing happens. Eh next Saturday I'll just sit with myself somewhere else.

Try sitting next to someone who you think sings well and focus on that person's singing. You might be able to get your own brain to block out the down syndrome girl's singing, and enjoy yourself better without offending anyone or having to be pissed at the girl. It'll probably make you feel better about yourself, at any rate...

Oh shut up.

No, I don't believe I will.

No, I don't believe I will.
You go girl!

my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like, it's better than yours.





or perhaps
I don't think you're ready for this, my body's too bootylicious for ya babe


...


sorry. I'll show myself out.
:fluffle:

A monster? No.

A snob? Probably.

You go girl!

I am a man.

I am a man.

*laughes out loud*

*laughes out loud*

It's spelt "laughs."

Tried to, nothing happens. Eh next Saturday I'll just sit with myself somewhere else.

make sure you explain yourself to your family. no sense hurting your mothers feelings by having her think that you dont want to sit with your family anymore.

make sure you explain yourself to your family. no sense hurting your mothers feelings by having her think that you dont want to sit with your family anymore.

Yea that'll go over well "I don't want to sit here anymore because the kid with down syndrome annoys me with her "singing"."

I am a man.
Oh.. um.. then..

YOU DA MAN!

Oh.. um.. then..

YOU DA MAN!

You can bet your patootie I am!

Oh shut up.

Ahahahahaha! *Wipes tear of mirth/Myrth from eye*

Telling Fass to shut up? *Chuckle* Aaaaah so many possible resposes. I'll jsut go with the best two:

"You still have much to learn young Grasshopper." [/Funky old Asian dude]

"He is young, he will learn." [/Patronising, annoying bastard]

I am a man.
:eek: You have seen the light! :D

I am a man.

I neither believe nor disbelieve your claimed gender.

:eek: [I] have seen the light! :D

My genitals often get that comment.

I neither believe nor disbelieve your claimed gender.

I neither care, nor give a hoot.

I neither care, nor give a hoot.

I neither care, nor declare ignorance to your claim that you do not care.

My genitals often get that comment.
what... that they are insubstantial and only for looks?

Nah. just joking, couldn't resist. :D

I neither build, nor destroy lego replicas of Star Wars items.

My genitals often get that comment.
Shame they don't have ears to listen...

what... that they are insubstantial and only for looks?

While that is true of religiously tinged statements overall, I am quite the effervescent lay.

Nah. just joking, couldn't resist. :D

That passes for a joke in your parts? Let me guess, the Yonkers?

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Next time, join in. See how many people you can get to go "AaaAAAaaaAA".

Try and start a choir?

Yea that'll go over well "I don't want to sit here anymore because the kid with down syndrome annoys me with her "singing"."

so you would rather hurt your mother than do what i suggested and tell them that you want to sit away from the annoying girl?

glad youre not my son.

so you would rather hurt your mother than do what i suggested and tell them that you want to sit away from the annoying girl?

glad youre not my son.

The feeling is mutual.

Yea that'll go over well "I don't want to sit here anymore because the kid with down syndrome annoys me with her "singing"."
Instead of saying the girl annoys you, why don't tell your mum that you find it really hard to concentrate on the ceremony, while sitting next to the girl.

Next time, join in. See how many people you can get to go "AaaAAAaaaAA".
ROFL... I vote for that...

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Yay!

WWJD, my friend, WWJD

Cost of an pair of earplugs: about a dollar.

Use one of the pair on the appropriate side and quit whining.

There's nothing evil about feeling annoyed with disabled people, I do all the time. Just remember that they can't help it, so they do not deserve to hear about how you feel.

You can bet your patootie I am!

If I take that bet and win, do I get Ruffy's patootie?

Hmmm....

But ON topic... I think that the OP needs to get over himself and enjoy the fact that this girl is able to participate to the degree she can. If it is all about the music, go join a choral group instead, but let the folks who are there to share the community of the church do so.

In high school we had a girl with Downs Syndrome who wanted to join our school choir (and we were pretty good, too). The director let her, and several of us worked with her to teach her the melodies, and to make sure she understood when it was appropriate to sing quietly or sing out, and she did fine. She was never very good, but we all liked her and enjoyed trying to help her fit in. How about volunteering to work with this girl once a week and teaching her the melody for the hymns for the upcoming service? Usually those are planned somewhat in advance, and if you talked to your minister about it, I am sure he/she would make certain you knew what they were in plenty of time. You might just find that you and she both learn something.

Are you picking on my niece?

I'll have you know that we have spent years teaching her to sing like that just to annoy you. Good to know it's working.*nods*
We're also going to teach her to sit near you regardless of where that may be...

Anyhoo, no, you're not a monster, you just have an ambition of being a judge for American Idol.

No, I don't believe I will.

Then don't tell other people how to think.

You're not a monster. Ask your family if you'uns can sit somewhere else. And that girl's family should have her just stand there silent, instead of singing.

Oh let the girl sing for it is written make a joyful noise unto the lord.

And you'uns? that's almost as bad as yins. *shudders*

that is up to you. it might be that the girl is just tone deaf. thus even tho she can talk normally, singing becomes a problem with her.

It would depend on which is more important. Family or songs. to me, God doesn't care if it's in tune or not, but the music in one's heart.

Amen.

Try sitting next to someone who you think sings well and focus on that person's singing. You might be able to get your own brain to block out the down syndrome girl's singing, and enjoy yourself better without offending anyone or having to be pissed at the girl. It'll probably make you feel better about yourself, at any rate...

Or the opposite will occur and he'll miss it.

so you would rather hurt your mother than do what i suggested and tell them that you want to sit away from the annoying girl?

glad youre not my son.

Not to mention that could be considering dishonoring thy Mother and thy father. Which is violating one of the 10 Commandments.

Or the opposite will occur and he'll miss it.

Yea, :rolleyes: . Look I know she can't help it, and I'm not saying that she can. This is why I don't say anything to her or her parents, I just keep it to myself and that's why I'm just simply going to move and let her sing in peace and I can actually hear the choir for once. I know if I do bring it up with her or her parents, then yea, I would be an asshole, but since I'm being graceful about it, well yea. lol.

While that is true of religiously tinged statements overall, I am quite the effervescent lay.
Fass bubbles while he has sex? That's....that's...well...disturbing. I'd suggest seeing a doctor, but considering you are one, I see that becoming an invite to masturbate. Not that you need an invite or anything, but yeah. I'll shut up now. again.

Fass bubbles while he has sex? That's....that's...well...disturbing. I'd suggest seeing a doctor, but considering you are one, I see that becoming an invite to masturbate. Not that you need an invite or anything, but yeah. I'll shut up now. again.
lol..

WWJD, my friend, WWJD
I'm thinking Jesus would cure the down syndrome, but I don't think thats an option for him...

Fass bubbles while he has sex? That's....that's...well...disturbing. I'd suggest seeing a doctor, but considering you are one, I see that becoming an invite to masturbate. Not that you need an invite or anything, but yeah. I'll shut up now. again.

Bubbles... hmm.... tickly! It's a shame that I am a woman, I guess.

Stop whinging about it. A little sympathy for her situation wouldn't hurt. I suggest that you just forget all about going to church, and leave her to enjoy herself. And yes, I think you are a monster. You'll be going straight to hell to be tormented by a choir of bad singers whilst burning in the eternal fires.

Yea, :rolleyes: . Look I know she can't help it, and I'm not saying that she can. This is why I don't say anything to her or her parents, I just keep it to myself and that's why I'm just simply going to move and let her sing in peace and I can actually hear the choir for once. I know if I do bring it up with her or her parents, then yea, I would be an asshole, but since I'm being graceful about it, well yea. lol.

But yet, what about your parents?

But yet, what about your parents?

Eh if they ask, I'll just tell them the truth. No sense in lying to my parents.

Eh if they ask, I'll just tell them the truth. No sense in lying to my parents.

Considering 1) lying is one of the 7 most deadly sins and 2) you would be dishonering your parents if you do lie, that would be most prudent.

Considering 1) lying is one of the 7 most deadly sins and 2) you would be dishonering your parents if you do lie, that would be most prudent.

I thought the 7 deadly sins are.

Pride
Envy
Gluttony
Lust
Anger
Greed
Sloth

But yea, it would be dishonering my parents.

Well you are upset with it :D

Well you are upset with it :D

Not upset, trust me if I was upset, that would be stepping over the line, I'm annoyed with it. Annoyance and upset are two diffrent things.

Not upset, trust me if I was upset, that would be stepping over the line, I'm annoyed with it. Annoyance and upset are two diffrent things.

Ok ok, you have a point.

Considering 1) lying is one of the 7 most deadly sins and 2) you would be dishonering your parents if you do lie, that would be most prudent.

What?

Is that the Methodist version?

Next time, join in. See how many people you can get to go "AaaAAAaaaAA".
And if you still need to assuage your guilt go pee on an electric fence. That's enough punishment to satisfy any masochist.:headbang:

And if you still need to assuage your guilt go pee on an electric fence. That's enough punishment to satisfy any masochist.:headbang:

Ehh, wouldn't work, after years of surgeries after surgeries let me with a high tolerance for pain. I can take a 2x4 to the head and walk away like it was nothing. So I doubt whizzing on the eletrical fence will do anything.

Not to mention that could be considering dishonoring thy Mother and thy father. Which is violating one of the 10 Commandments.
that is exactly what i was hinting at.

its bad enough to suggest that a handicapped girl shouldnt sing but to compound that with hurting one's mother really puts it over the top.

that is exactly what i was hinting at.

its bad enough to suggest that a handicapped girl shouldnt sing but to compound that with hurting one's mother really puts it over the top.

Ain't life a bitch? :D

Ain't life a bitch? :D
yeah it is

choices have to be made and sometimes the right thing to do is the thing you really dont want to do.

To be fair, at least that girl has an excuse. And she's still probably better than the majority of the people in the church I go to. Some of the songs sound like someone has just sat on a keyboard set to "VocSynth".

Eh maybe I am a monster, but I still say it's annoying.

You are not a monster, just a human being.

If natural selection had it's way you wouldn't be having this problem. ;)

I just wish her parents would at least put her in the children section. At least there she can "sing" along and not annoy the people surrounding her. What's even worse is when she does it during the solo portion of the hymns....so let the childrens section be bothered in the way you are? Oh yes, Christianity is welling up in you. She is doing what you claim to be doing.....worshipping :headbang:

I go to mass every Saturday night, and everytime we go, for some reason we get to sit near a family with a girl with down syndrome. Well the girl can talk just fine, but when it comes to singing the hymns, she just does aaaaAAaaAaaa. I mean she doesn't even try to at least hum the song, she just does the same noise for every song that we sing during mass. Now I know she can't help it, I know she has Down Syndrome, but it's still annoying, and it ruins the beautiful classical hymns for me. Yes I have tried sitting elsewhere, but I would like to sit with my family, and my family always pick to sit around the down syndrome child. Eh maybe I am a monster, but I still say it's annoying.

The girl has a life expectancy about 30 years less than you do: if anyone has grounds to be righteously annoyed I think it would be her, not you.

[ Last I checked, there were no "circles of Hell," or "seven deadly sins." Sin=sin, as is said. No one is worse than another, because they're all bad [if you follow the Judeo-Christian philosophy]*.

Anyway, I would tell you no, but I wonder about that myself, too.

Not the best person to be taking advice from, I guess.

*Inserted for the benefit of the hypersensitive. ]

You are the smartest NSer.


No, he was actually being kind of a butthead in that post.

The guy wasnt asking for a religious debate, just some moral advice.
Fass kinda took a cheap shot at his religion.

Sorry folks, I calls em likes I sees em.

I go to mass every Saturday night, and everytime we go, for some reason we get to sit near a family with a girl with down syndrome.

Here's a crazy idea: talk to the priest and see what he/she says about your issues. Ain't that what they're there for?

I go to mass every Saturday night, and everytime we go, for some reason we get to sit near a family with a girl with down syndrome. Well the girl can talk just fine, but when it comes to singing the hymns, she just does aaaaAAaaAaaa. I mean she doesn't even try to at least hum the song, she just does the same noise for every song that we sing during mass. Now I know she can't help it, I know she has Down Syndrome, but it's still annoying, and it ruins the beautiful classical hymns for me. Yes I have tried sitting elsewhere, but I would like to sit with my family, and my family always pick to sit around the down syndrome child. Eh maybe I am a monster, but I still say it's annoying.

If a girl with Down's Syndrome's attempts at singing irritates you so much and makes you compelled to make a thread about it, then one wonders whether you possess any of the 'Christian values' that the church allegedly preaches you should have.

You never know, maybe she thinks your singing is awful, and is aaaing to drown you out.

But in all honesty, get over it. You should encourage the girl to sing or aah along, you share a passion, and it sounds to me as if she enjoys the music.

You probably have not got the best singing voice either, but still you sing along with the congregation, and she has every right to as well, in whatever way she can.

If she irritates you so much then it suggests your uncomftableness not with her singing, but with her being there at all.

Either that or your intolerable with alot of people, which probably makes you rather unsociable.

Just because she has Down's Syndrome, does not make her any less human.

Imagine how she feels, trying to sing. Just, seriously, try to imagine what it may be like not to get the song across in her voice that she may like to.

Imagine living her life, the predejuce she probably receives, the limitations she may face through society discriminating against her because of her having Down's Syndrome.

Be more considerate, and at least try to think of others.

If natural selection had it's way you wouldn't be having this problem. ;)

Be off with you, The Nuremburg Rally's about to start....you would not want to miss it, would you?

Oh...you did.

Still, you could always get a life.

Be off with you, The Nuremburg Rally's about to start....you would not want to miss it, would you?

Oh...you did.

Still, you could always get a life.


You could always go to hell.:rolleyes:

She'll die much sooner than you, if you live as long as normal people generally do, so just stop going to the church for some 30 years or so. When you come back she won't bother anyone anymore. If you're lucky it won't even take 30 years. Or you could try poison? Or you could hire some soldiers of fortune to blow her house up. I'm sure your god will be overjoyed at getting a few more slaves up in heaven.

Or...just bite the bullet and listen to her screeching since it's...what, like 20 mins a week you have to endure it? It'll be good training so you can endure marriage later on in life.

You could always go to hell.:rolleyes:

Hell is sitting in a room full of ignorant muppets, so I've been there, done that.

As I say, get a life.

I just wish her parents would at least put her in the children section. At least there she can "sing" along and not annoy the people surrounding her. What's even worse is when she does it during the solo portion of the hymns.


She's got enough problems. Suck it up, ask your family to sit elsewhere with you, or sit separate from your family.

Besides, doesn't it say in the Bible "Make a joyful noise unto the Lord?"
Sounds like she is.

You're not a monster. Ask your family if you'uns can sit somewhere else. And that girl's family should have her just stand there silent, instead of singing.


Why? She's singing. Should we ask all the people who sing off key not to sing either?

Hell is sitting in a room full of ignorant muppets, so I've been there, done that.

As I say, get a life.


I happen to be a social darwinist. If you don't like it, bite me.

Considering 1) lying is one of the 7 most deadly sins and 2) you would be dishonering your parents if you do lie, that would be most prudent.


Not dishonoring parents is one of the Ten Commandments. One could stretch "bearing false witness" into general lying and say it would be a violation of two of the Ten Commandments.

I happen to be a social darwinist. If you don't like it, bite me.

ah, a social darwinist. Nazis taking Darwin's discovery of Evolution and twisting it for their own ends to promote that all people who are not in their eyes, physically or mentally 'perfect' are inferior.

Darwinism is not about one creature being more intelligent that another to survive, but more adaptable to the enviroment around them.

Thus why the worm still exists, and why the Utahraptor, a highly intelligent creature, does not.

I may very well bite you, I have big enough teeth.

Something to do with evolution, apparently.

But I'm bored of talking to you, you bore me.

You have talent there, I'll give you that.

*Yawn*

ah, a social darwinist. Nazis taking Darwin's discovery of Evolution and twisting it for their own ends to promote that all people who are not in their eyes, physically or mentally 'perfect' are inferior.

Darwinism is not about one creature being more intelligent that another to survive, but more adaptable to the enviroment around them.

Thus why the worm still exists, and why the Utahraptor, a highly intelligent creature, does not.

I may very well bite you, I have big enough teeth.

Something to do with evolution, apparently.

But I'm bored of talking to you, you bore me.

You have talent there, I'll give you that.

*Yawn*


Difference is I don't use it as an excuse to kill people. I just don't want to have to support those below me, and I don't want to be supported by those above me. I like my independance. I don't like people. I never asked you for your opinion. So bugger off.