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Suprised someone in parliment would come out and say something about this. But considering who it is I can understand. This guy is a complete Muppet as they say in the UK. Should be ran out of politics for being an idiot. Curious at the reaction from our UK NS'rs

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/26/galloway.blair.ap/index.html

I'm not from anywhere near the U.K. but I think that MP should be horsewhipped and ran out of town on a rail. He should be ashamed.

Man. No matter how he tries to softpedal that, that's way over the line.

In his magazine interview, Galloway claimed to been the best fighter at his school, and said he would like to go a few rounds with both Blair and Bush.

"I'd take them both at once," Galloway said.

Try as I might, I can't see how this is going to help his political career.

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?

Suprised someone in parliment would come out and say something about this. But considering who it is I can understand. This guy is a complete Muppet as they say in the UK. Should be ran out of politics for being an idiot. Curious at the reaction from our UK NS'rs

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/26/galloway.blair.ap/index.html


Meh...... if his peers had any onions they would just put a foot in his ass and be done with it .

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?

Queen Elizabeth appoints Prince Charlie as head of government, and they begin a reign of terror to the extent of which has never been seen before in the galaxy.

Meanwhile, a young moisture farmer from Tattooi- i mean, uh...Libya...

I'm not from anywhere near the U.K. but I think that MP should be horsewhipped and ran out of town on a rail. He should be ashamed.

Hang him.

Galloway is an asshat. I don't care what his ideologies are. Anyone of any walk can be an idiot.

Thats outrageous. Although I agree with Galloways stance on certain issues, I cannot support his statements. Way out of line. I'm sure he will receive a pretty chilly reception in Parilament to say the least.

Is this legal in the UK? Here in the US, calling for the death of your own leaders is considered a crime:

US Code Collection
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 41 > § 871

§ 871. Threats against President and successors to the Presidency

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(b) The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 19 and 20.

Red Ken will pat him on the head and give him a biscuit.

Hang him.

Burn him at the stake! No, wait, that's for heretics. Sorry.

;)

He's still around? I thought he'd finally crawled off somewhere to leave us alone.

He's a fucktard, but whether or not we like that, he was elected by his constituancy, and it's there job to get rid of him.

and New Callixtina: he dodn't actually threaten assasination, he mererly stated that doing so would be "morally justified". HE also said if he knew of any such plot he'd report it, but he'd do that to prevent the country sliding further to the right, tather than to save Blairs life.

Great knee jerk reactions there folks...

I suggest you re-read what Galloway said...as usual you lot play right into his hands...

Here is a post I wrote for another site...might give some food for thought for our more 'reactive' conservatives...

So this is different in what way from the calls of assassination by Pat Robinson on Hugo Chavez?

Or the attempts by the CIA to snuff out Castro?

At the very least (if you lot even had the ability to understand the enemy) Galloway views Blair as a traitor to the Socialist ideals the labour used to represent.

What George is saying is a culmination of years of antipathy between the hard left loon (Galloway) and the control freak rightist loon (Blair). The socialist movement in the UK has been ripped asunder by Blair and the New Labour Project. Galloway and the other hard leftists are not happy.

Galloway is a self-publicist. He is a noisemaker. He also irritates the *£($ out of many people who should know better – don’t forget the stupidity of the Daily Telegraph and the CSM when they made up the stories regarding his involvement with Iraq. (How many times do we see the Rumsfeld greeting session with Saddam? How many of Galloway?)

The US Senate received a verbal mugging by Galloway when they demanded his presence in the Capitol.

There was some hu-ha about charges being made against Galloway with regards to funding his charity. Galloway has not shirked from facing his accusers.

And this annoys the ignorant right to no end.

The intelligent right view this all with something akin to horror – a great newspaper humbled, a clean (you will not find dirt on Galloway) loudmouthed Socialist given far too much airtime, and one who has also embarrassed the US Senate. All this because someone went on a vendetta against Galloway and his original Palestinian activities.

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?

No. Our political system wouldn't be affected very much. The Prime minister isn't as integral to the system as, say, the President of the US. That's the beauty of our system in a way I suppose.

So this is different in what way from the calls of assassination by Pat Robinson on Hugo Chavez?

Or the attempts by the CIA to snuff out Castro?

.

Pat Robertson is a private citizen and not a member of any congress or parliment for that matter. No one listens to the guy really...

CIA attempt on overthrowing the Cuban regime was during the height of the cold war. I personally think they should have carried it all the way. History will be history though.

However you like to spin this one. The guy is still way out of bounds. What I have read about this ass clown in the past makes me think he doesn't have it all upstairs.

Oh, Galloway. If it were up to him, we'd be learning the koran by now. Then again, we probably should be.

Pat Robertson is a private citizen and not a member of any congress or parliment for that matter. No one listens to the guy really...

CIA attempt on overthrowing the Cuban regime was during the height of the cold war. I personally think they should have carried it all the way. History will be history though.

However you like to spin this one. The guy is still way out of bounds. What I have read about this ass clown in the past makes me think he doesn't have it all upstairs.

Good point. However Robertson is still a newsmaker and an opinion former (re-inforcer) for the loony right.

I fail to see your point regarding the cold war.

Regarding the accusation of spin I would like you to re-read what I have written. I think it obvious that I am saying that the more airtime is given to Galloway the more the ignorant right collapse into fits which feeds for more insanity by Galloway.

Or do you mean my comment about him being clean? If he was dirty he'd be disgraced by now. He is not dirty. This is something else the ignorant right need to learn...but probably won't. The intelligent right perfer to ignore him.

[i]So this is different in what way from the calls of assassination by Pat Robinson on Hugo Chavez?

Or the attempts by the CIA to snuff out Castro?

At the very least (if you lot even had the ability to understand the enemy) Galloway views Blair as a traitor to the Socialist ideals the labour used to represent.


It would be the same if a member of congress declared that it would be morally justifiable to assassinate Bush. Please note the difference if you have the ability to detect the difference.

It would be the same if a member of congress declared that it would be morally justifiable to assassinate Bush. Please note the difference if you have the ability to detect the difference.

Silly.

Suprised someone in parliment would come out and say something about this. But considering who it is I can understand. This guy is a complete Muppet as they say in the UK. Should be ran out of politics for being an idiot. Curious at the reaction from our UK NS'rs

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/26/galloway.blair.ap/index.html

I haven't read the whole thread, so if it's been said already, I apologise. But Galloway is a prick. Completely. He's a single-issue politician who thinks he's far cooler than he really is. It's a shame though, because if it wasn't ofr him, and the fact that it's now turned into a purely Islamic-based party, I could have voted ofr his Party. But that's life, I suppose. The upshot is, don't listen to him, people, we Brits don't.

There is no room for violence, or encouraging it, in a modern democracy, period.

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?

The deputy Prime Minister would take over in the short run which is technically John Prescott so yes we probably would sink

Justifiable and it would be astonishingly popular.

Galloway is an alright bloke, it's just a shame that he's got no real policies other than "be nice to people". Which is a good policy, but I dunno how the economy, or education would work under Respect.

And that fight would be the best thing ever. A political Royal Rumble, maybe.

"OOOoooh and Castro's in there with the body-slam! Bush looks like he's weakening! Oh and Blair's using the chair on Chirac! But then Galloway uses the guitar on him!" etc.

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?

It would be no different to the USA. In the USA, Vice President takes over. In the UK, the Queen would either have to appoint the Deputy Prime Minister, or possibly in this case the Chancellor.

What George is saying is a culmination of years of antipathy between the hard left loon (Galloway) and the control freak rightist loon (Blair). The socialist movement in the UK has been ripped asunder by Blair and the New Labour Project. Galloway and the other hard leftists are not happy.

I consider myself a "Hard Left Loon" (Which Galloway isn't-his party manifesto is quite moderate) but haven't called for or justified Blair's assassination. When the Conservatives fell apart in the late ninties, they didn't call for each other's assassinations, either. Galloway did this because he thinks it gives him some street cred in his "Blair 1 Galloway 2 " game, not because he thinks Blair betrayed the socialist movement.

The deputy Prime Minister would take over in the short run which is technically John Prescott so yes we probably would sink
Two Shags would continue the tradition of helping George Bush look intellegent, but for slightly different reasons than Blair's.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/Slippery__Jim/johnprescott1PA.jpg

Justifiable and it would be astonishingly popular.

Galloway is an alright bloke, it's just a shame that he's got no real policies other than "be nice to people". Which is a good policy, but I dunno how the economy, or education would work under Respect.

And that fight would be the best thing ever. A political Royal Rumble, maybe.

"OOOoooh and Castro's in there with the body-slam! Bush looks like he's weakening! Oh and Blair's using the chair on Chirac! But then Galloway uses the guitar on him!" etc.

Popular? Says who? Blair may be hated by much of the country, but at the end of the day he is the Prime Minister. I don't think there'd be many celebrations if he was killed, except from the loonies.

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?

The office of Deputy Prime Minister is a strange one in the British system, like all cabinet position it is filled by the Prime Minister, but the thing is that the PM doesn't have the constitutional right to appoint his successor, the Monarch chooses the government, as it is 'her Majesty's Government'. To get around this, the office of Deputy-PM is actually embiggened with the charge of a bunch of random policy areas, untill recently the Deputy-PM was in charge of social housing and the fire service, amongst other things.

Seeing as we currently live in a time when the government is all-powerful and the Crown is powerless, then in practice the post would probably go straight to Deputy-PM John Prescott. But considering that Prescott is neither popular nor constitutionally appropriate, it would almost instantly lead to the Labour Party electing a new leader, which would almost certainly be Gordon Brown. And then the Queen officially appoints him as Leader of Her Majesty's Government.

Popular? Says who? Blair may be hated by much of the country, but at the end of the day he is the Prime Minister. I don't think there'd be many celebrations if he was killed, except from the loonies.
It really depends who he was replaced by. I'd have snap elections to see who was going to be in power, but then I'm not the queen and don't really have the power to act on what I say.

Justifiable and it would be astonishingly popular.

Galloway is an alright bloke, it's just a shame that he's got no real policies other than "be nice to people". Which is a good policy, but I dunno how the economy, or education would work under Respect.

And that fight would be the best thing ever. A political Royal Rumble, maybe.

"OOOoooh and Castro's in there with the body-slam! Bush looks like he's weakening! Oh and Blair's using the chair on Chirac! But then Galloway uses the guitar on him!" etc.

What!? Galloway is not an alright bloke, he is, in fact, the answer to that eternal question, 'what if Josef Stalin was Scottish?'

His policies include turning Britain into the bastard child of the Soviet Union and Saudi Arabia, if Galloway any reached any position of authority we would all be gulags by noon, FACT.

What!? Galloway is not an alright bloke, he is, in fact, the answer to that eternal question, 'what if Josef Stalin was Scottish?'

His policies include turning Britain into the bastard child of the Soviet Union and Saudi Arabia, if Galloway any reached any position of authority we would all be gulags by noon, FACT.
I think not. What purpose would he have with gulags?

And why the USSR and Saudi Arabia?

And why the USSR and Saudi Arabia?

He's a left-wing almost-muslim nutjob.

Suprised someone in parliment would come out and say something about this. But considering who it is I can understand. This guy is a complete Muppet as they say in the UK. Should be ran out of politics for being an idiot. Curious at the reaction from our UK NS'rs

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/26/galloway.blair.ap/index.html


He should be horsewhipped to within an inch of his life,
and sewed into a canvas bag,
containing a black rooster, a snake, and a black dog,
signifying worthlessness, treachery and shamelessness,
in accordance with a quaint old custom,
attributed to King Arthur.
( He'll come again, you know? )

He's a left-wing almost-muslim nutjob.
No he's not almost-muslim, you're just astonishingly-prejudiced.

I think not. What purpose would he have with gulags?

And why the USSR and Saudi Arabia?


Repressing all sensible people.
Sensible being a body who thinks the world would be better off if it were commie-free-zone.

He's a left-wing almost-muslim nutjob.

...


What?

Repressing all sensible people.
Sensible being a body who thinks the world would be better off if it were commie-free-zone.
Why would he lock people up, though?

That's sort of missing the point.

As a communist, I'd basically ask people if they were or weren't communist, and then divide up the land at that percentage (usefulness-wise, obviously it'd be unfair if 20% of people were communists and they were given the whole of southern England).

Justifiable and it would be astonishingly popular.

Galloway is an alright bloke, it's just a shame that he's got no real policies other than "be nice to people". Which is a good policy, but I dunno how the economy, or education would work under Respect.

And that fight would be the best thing ever. A political Royal Rumble, maybe.

"OOOoooh and Castro's in there with the body-slam! Bush looks like he's weakening! Oh and Blair's using the chair on Chirac! But then Galloway uses the guitar on him!" etc.
I think you over-estimate the unpopularity of Blair, and the reaction by the British public to the assassination of our head of Government.

Whilst the British tend to complain about anything and anyone, if we were directly attacked in this way (or by actual attacks, not just a few random bombings) the traditional British "right-wing" approach to situations would return very quickly.

Why would he lock people up, though?

That's sort of missing the point.

As a communist, I'd basically ask people if they were or weren't communist, and then divide up the land at that percentage (usefulness-wise, obviously it'd be unfair if 20% of people were communists and they were given the whole of southern England).


Because, we, the sensible people, would continuously outvote you.
We would even vote to stick folks who go on about Marx or Classes into Scrubwell.
( :p )

But getting back on track: the nutjob for Galloway is a nutjob.
I'm not sure whether he is a commie or not. ( No, I really don't have a clue about his exact shade of politics. But I do know he's as fruity as a bowl of punch without the alcohol. )

I think you over-estimate the unpopularity of Blair, and the reaction by the British public to the assassination of our head of Government.

Whilst the British tend to complain about anything and anyone, if we were directly attacked in this way (or by actual attacks, not just a few random bombings) the traditional British "right-wing" approach to situations would return very quickly.
It really depends who did it.

If it was an 'Islamic' paramilitary group, or the IRA or something then there would almost certainly be trouble. If it was a random nutter, I don't really know what would happen.

It really depends who did it.

If it was an 'Islamic' paramilitary group, or the IRA or something then there would almost certainly be trouble. If it was a random nutter, I don't really know what would happen.

You keep forgetting the basic love of tranquility which is part of the british national character. ( see the BNP-thread. )

Even if it were Osama Bin Laden getting torn to pieces on Trafalgar Square, most proper Brittons would be appalled.

Because, we, the sensible people, would continuously outvote you.
We would even vote to stick folks who go on about Marx or Classes into Scrubwell.
Bah!

But getting back on track: the nutjob for Galloway is a nutjob.
I'm not sure whether he is a commie or not. ( No, I really don't have a clue about his exact shade of politics. But I do know he's as fruity as a bowl of punch without the alcohol. )
Hmm. I think he's actually a slightly benign force, but then I'm biased as I'm extremely against the "War on Terror" (oh the oxymoronic value!) and also against both the current UK and US administration.

You keep forgetting the basic love of tranquility which is part of the british national character. ( see the BNP-thread. )

Even if it were Osama Bin Laden getting torn to pieces on Trafalgar Square, most proper Brittons would be appalled.
Aye, that's true I suppose.

Bah!


Hmm. I think he's actually a slightly benign force, but then I'm biased as I'm extremely against the "War on Terror" (oh the oxymoronic value!) and also against both the current UK and US administration.

*shrug*
That's your prejudice.
I don't begrudge you your prejudices as long as you don't begrudge me mine.

As for me, I take a very dim view of politicians ( such as The Vicar of St. Albion ) who lead the country into war on pretexts of which any sensible well-informed man knew that they were baseless.

( I'm on about the question: what of the WMD of Hussayn? I knew they did not exist. I knew what had happened to the original stockpile Saddam used to have. If they had existed, I would have favoured the war. )

Bahahaha! :D

Galloway... is just... *giggles* When talking about Galloway it's like listening to scoring of the English/British entry. Integrity: nil point, Respectability: nullpunkte, Intelligence: μηά σημεία, etc...

And to call him a lawmaker. Sure he's a MP, but hardly a lawmaker. He has no power and is a joke.

For those trying to apolligise for him. This is politics. Of course he's going to say he doesn't advocate assasinating Blair. But why issue such a statement in the first place? Read between the lines. It's a veiled threat, but a joke of a veiled threat. Radicalised youths all over Britain will hear of this statement, that the Galloway thinks it's justifable to kill Blair. So if it were to happen Galloway's covered his arse with this statement dispite, probably adding petrol to the flames. But anyway, it won't happen. I'm sure Blair's paranoid enough about this to not let such a thing happen.

My last piece of evidence regarding Galloway. I mean how many other politicians to you see (literally) lapping milk out of someone's elses cupped palms on TV?
http://smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/14/georgegalloway_wideweb__470x362,0.jpg

Aye, that's true I suppose.

:)

And, as another aside, it is the same characteristic that WILL condemn the BNP to political oblivion.

No matter how much your ( hypothetical ) british white power racist majority might hate ( using their words, not mine! ) N**gers, Pakis, god-knows-what-else!, no british political majority will ever accept something as appalling as concentration camps and the like!

We passionately hate the muzzie-fundamentalists - yet we wont stand for British citizens getting stuck into Gitmo without a recourse to the rights that we as a british society grant to our citizens.

If Hitler had been a British PM, and even if he had had a majority in Parliament, not all the Gestapos the Devil ever made would be enough to protect him once a whisper about the Final Solution had circulated!

I think his point was regarding the legitmacy of the civilian/soldier disticntion. Now obviously he is not suggesting that if Tony Blair was to be assainated it would be a good thing to do. Killing people in all cases is bad in some degree, which is why it should be rare. However if this is an actual conflict then in the rules of war Tony Blair is a legitimate target. In the same way as the Nazi's trying to assainate Churchill would have been a legitimate target.

I think his point was regarding the legitmacy of the civilian/soldier disticntion. Now obviously he is not suggesting that if Tony Blair was to be assainated it would be a good thing to do. Killing people in all cases is bad in some degree, which is why it should be rare. However if this is an actual conflict then in the rules of war Tony Blair is a legitimate target. In the same way as the Nazi's trying to assainate Churchill would have been a legitimate target.



What point was that?
Galloway shifted his position,
whenever he got quoted,
so he has a line, not a point.
And a wavery line at that. :p

I think his point was regarding the legitmacy of the civilian/soldier disticntion. Now obviously he is not suggesting that if Tony Blair was to be assainated it would be a good thing to do. Killing people in all cases is bad in some degree, which is why it should be rare. However if this is an actual conflict then in the rules of war Tony Blair is a legitimate target. In the same way as the Nazi's trying to assainate Churchill would have been a legitimate target.He's not talking about legitimacy in that sense, he's arguing that it would be morally justifible to kill Blair.

He does have one get out clause though. He's talking in terms of moral relativism.

But quoting Menzies Campbell from the same article.No politician, ever, by act, word, or deed, either expressly or by implication, should give any support to the notion that violence might be justified
Which is great, as it condemns both Blair and Galloway in the same sentence. I still don't like Cambpell though. Nor whatshisface, the new leader of the Conservatives. Cameroon! That's the one. Well he's obviously memorable enough to be a credible leader. :rolleyes:

edit: Whoops, Cameroon is the name of a country. Cameron is the name of the Conservative party leader. It would be great if Cameron got in though. It'd force a rethink in the Labour party and he'd probably only manage to survive one term.

He's not talking about legitimacy in that sense, he's arguing that it would be morally justifible to kill Blair.

He does have one get out clause though. He's talking in terms of moral relativism.

But quoting Menzies Campbell from the same article.
Which is great, as it condemns both Blair and Galloway in the same sentence. I still don't like Cambpell though. Nor whatshisface, the new leader of the Conservatives. Cameroon! That's the one. Well he's obviously memorable enough to be a credible leader. :rolleyes:


Moral relativism clause?

That's just a fancy philosophy saying:

'no matter what I do or say,
You ain't justified in holding me,
accountable for anything I do or say'

I think not. What purpose would he have with gulags?

And why the USSR and Saudi Arabia?

Trust me. I can sense tyrants, and George Galloway is a wannabe tyrant.

:)

And, as another aside, it is the same characteristic that WILL condemn the BNP to political oblivion.

No matter how much your ( hypothetical ) british white power racist majority might hate ( using their words, not mine! ) N**gers, Pakis, god-knows-what-else!, no british political majority will ever accept something as appalling as concentration camps and the like!

We passionately hate the muzzie-fundamentalists - yet we wont stand for British citizens getting stuck into Gitmo without a recourse to the rights that we as a british society grant to our citizens.

If Hitler had been a British PM, and even if he had had a majority in Parliament, not all the Gestapos the Devil ever made would be enough to protect him once a whisper about the Final Solution had circulated!

Ahh, good post. It made me feel patriotic, and that is a very rare feat indeed. Help yourself to a point.

Ahh, good post. It made me feel patriotic, and that is a very rare feat indeed. Help yourself to a point.

:D :)

Moral relativism clause?

That's just a fancy philosophy saying:

'no matter what I do or say,
You ain't justified in holding me,
accountable for anything I do or say'Pretty much, it's a little more complex than that, but I don't really want to talk about moral relativism in depth right now.

Upside of moral relativism: Tolerance.
Extreme amounts of moral relativism: Stupidity.

Pretty much, it's a little more complex than that, but I don't really want to talk about moral relativism in depth right now.

Upside of moral relativism: Tolerance.
Extreme amounts of moral relativism: Stupidity.


There would be no point in discussing a philosophy
which is a line, so to speak.

If you tolerate Goodness,
you affirm Good without committing yourself

If you tolerate Badness,
you affirm Badness without committing yourself

If you tolerate neutrality
You affirm no consequences while saying buggerall.

Morale of the story?
Tolerance is just another form of weaseling out.

The upside aint all that good.

There would be no point in discussing a philosophy
which is a line, so to speak.

If you tolerate Goodness,
you affirm Good without committing yourself

If you tolerate Badness,
you affirm Badness without committing yourself

If you tolerate neutrality
You affirm no consequences while saying buggerall.

Morale of the story?
Tolerance is just another form of weaseling out.

The upside aint all that good.So you don't agree that you shoudl tolerate those that are different to you? Those of another religion, or of another nationality or language? Are you saying that you believe in cultural superiority and that your culture should be enforced upon others?

He's not talking about legitimacy in that sense, he's arguing that it would be morally justifible to kill Blair

I dont think he was. He used the term morally justifed but used it incorrectly. It is justified in so far as it is a war and he is a national leader

"[The assassination of Blair] would be entirely logical and explicable -- and morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq as Blair did," the monthly GQ magazine quoted Galloway as saying.
Since when ordering the assassination of the "Enemy PM" (who is ultimately the military leader of a Nation) = ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent lives? Is Blair supposed to be an innocent life which is worth thousands now?

I mean, I would rather have them all sorting out their differences over a nice cup of warm earl grey but this comparison is just lunacy...

What a strange thing.

Incidently, what would happen were Blair assassinated?

I don't know much about the British political structure. Would the island sink?
The immediate response would be to revive the East India Company and invade 'the colonies'... followed by appointing the 'computers says no' character from Little Britain Prime Minister... I think it's all towards the back of the Magna Carta...

Try as I might, I can't see how this is going to help his political career.
I guess you have to consider who his constituents are. Cindy McKinney keeps getting re-elected(mostly), despite some off-the-wall antics.

I was boggled until I found out it was George Galloway.

He shouldn't be horsewhipped, just forced to share the same stage with Christopher Hitchens, who'll continually make him look like a dimwit by comparison.

(That's not really fair--Galloway isn't really an idiot, but I definitely don't share his politics.)

no british political majority will ever accept something as appalling as concentration camps and the like!
Never studied the Boer War, then?

Galloway is so open-minded that the wind blowing in one ear and out the other makes a pleasing sound, like someone blowing into a conch shell.

Galloway, to use his own biologically inaccurate ad hominem, is a butterfly which metamorphosed into a slug. However he missed out on ever being a butterfly. Slimy little wanker...

Surely nobody here expected any different from Galloway? Here's somebody who is MP for a islamic enclave in London, and his entire campaign was based on pacifying muslim extremists. I've no doubt that this outburst will make him even more popular with his constituents. As somebody else said, if this guy was in charge we'd all be reading the Qur'an. And that he is somebody who would turn is into the bastard child of the USSR and Saudi Arabia is the best description of him I've ever heard. I have no love for Blair, but Galloway is just a traitorous piece of Marxist scum.

To be honest, anything that comes out of Galloways mouth is a ruck of shit and I'm not really surprised he would say something like that. There was a time - that lasted all of 2 minutes - when I had some respect for galloway especially when he stood up in the US court and ranted at them for ages. But then he went on Big Brother and the rest is history....
I don't have a lot of time for Blair but to quote the guy that started this thread: Galloway is a muppet of the highest order!!

There was a time - that lasted all of 2 minutes - when I had some respect for galloway especially when he stood up in the US court and ranted at them for ages. But then he went on Big Brother and the rest is history....
I don't have a lot of time for Blair but to quote the guy that started this thread: Galloway is a muppet of the highest order!!

I imagine if any politician were to go on Big Brother, they'd look like a muppet, regardless of if they actually were or not.

And then again, there's some politicians that don't need their muppetry highlighting by reality television.
Ladies and gentlemen of the court, exhibit Boris.

Never studied the Boer War, then?

And I also know how we got rid of those on the double.

Unlike the Commies, eh?

I imagine if any politician were to go on Big Brother, they'd look like a muppet, regardless of if they actually were or not.

And then again, there's some politicians that don't need their muppetry highlighting by reality television.
Ladies and gentlemen of the court, exhibit Boris.
Ah come on, Boris has a mind like a knife, if you think of his performances in Parliament, he jsut also knows how to do the likeable and affable buffoon act. Don't be fooled, though, he is incredibly intelligent.

So you don't agree that you shoudl tolerate those that are different to you? Those of another religion, or of another nationality or language? Are you saying that you believe in cultural superiority and that your culture should be enforced upon others?

I say that only one thing justifies existence of a practise ( when justification be needed ).
And that one thing is: being the best one feasible.
This is known in Law as 'the State of the Art defense'.

Appropriate or not, Blair is a fop who deserves to be impeeched.

Appropriate or not, Blair is a fop who deserves to be impeeched.
Actually... we can't, I fear. I don't think there's any mechanism for the impeachment of a PM...

Actually... we can't, I fear. I don't think there's any mechanism for the impeachment of a PM...
Damn shame. Oh well, he won't be here for much longer. Then some other tool will take his place. Probably his simulacrum, David Cameron.

Ah come on, Boris has a mind like a knife, if you think of his performances in Parliament, he jsut also knows how to do the likeable and affable buffoon act. Don't be fooled, though, he is incredibly intelligent.

Still looks and sounds like a muppet. [/petulant]

Still looks and sounds like a muppet. [/petulant]
Looks, yes. But sounds like one? Again, think of him in Parliament; he'd rip the hardest Labour MP to shreds if he were allowed to...

Looks, yes. But sounds like one? Again, think of him in Parliament; he'd rip the hardest Labour MP to shreds if he were allowed to...

I was thinking more in terms of his portrayal in the media, since that's the only image that actually counts for anything in politics today.

He keeps getting elected...

Bahahaha! :D

Galloway... is just... *giggles* When talking about Galloway it's like listening to scoring of the English/British entry. Integrity: nil point, Respectability: nullpunkte, Intelligence: μηά σημεία, etc...

And to call him a lawmaker. Sure he's a MP, but hardly a lawmaker. He has no power and is a joke.

For those trying to apolligise for him. This is politics. Of course he's going to say he doesn't advocate assasinating Blair. But why issue such a statement in the first place? Read between the lines. It's a veiled threat, but a joke of a veiled threat. Radicalised youths all over Britain will hear of this statement, that the Galloway thinks it's justifable to kill Blair. So if it were to happen Galloway's covered his arse with this statement dispite, probably adding petrol to the flames. But anyway, it won't happen. I'm sure Blair's paranoid enough about this to not let such a thing happen.

My last piece of evidence regarding Galloway. I mean how many other politicians to you see (literally) lapping milk out of someone's elses cupped palms on TV?
http://smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/14/georgegalloway_wideweb__470x362,0.jpg


To his credit though, he has kept alive the long-dying political skill of oratory. Despite the fact he is often a lunatic, he is a powerful speaker.

To his credit though, he has kept alive the long-dying political skill of oratory. Despite the fact he is often a lunatic, he is a powerful speaker.
Is this the same persn who got morally and verbally bitchslapped by Christopher Hitchens and who used intiidation to win Bethnal Green and Bow?

Is this the same persn who got morally and verbally bitchslapped by Christopher Hitchens and who used intiidation to win Bethnal Green and Bow?

I never said Christopher Hitchens wasn't a powerful speaker either..... :D

Well, it would get Blair into the history books, we all know it's what he's always wanted.

Being only the second Prime Minister to be Assassinated since... well, since the Act of Union would be quite an achievement. ;)

Mind you, with that in mind it's no surprise that the idea comes from a throwback like Galloway.

Yeah, but still. Galloway said shit like "a butterfly which has metamorphosed back into a slug!" showing a basic lack of basic zoological knowledge...

Yeah, but still. Galloway said shit like "a butterfly which has metamorphosed back into a slug!" showing a basic lack of basic zoological knowledge...

But not of an effective use of words.

People keep on voting him in! :p

He keeps getting elected...
True, but it was a muslim constituency. If he had to appeal to normal people he would never had got into parliament.

True, but it was a muslim constituency. If he had to appeal to normal people he would never had got into parliament.

...


Muslims are normal people as well, you know. There are some nutters, yes, but most are the same as you or me.

And I also know how we got rid of those on the double.

Unlike the Commies, eh?
Which is why we used them again in Kenya, Namibia, Cyprus and the Isle of Man, eh?

Which is why we used them again in Kenya, Namibia, Cyprus and the Isle of Man, eh?

Damn liberal! Those camps were obviously for their own protection!

Oh, the UK has had a loong history of calling for the assassination of various politicians. Remember the Guardian column which called for Bush's assassination?

Oh, the UK has had a loong history of calling for the assassination of various politicians. Remember the Guardian column which called for Bush's assassination?


Long history?

A single newpaper sketch writer within the past few years?

Oh, the UK has had a loong history of calling for the assassination of various politicians. Remember the Guardian column which called for Bush's assassination?

Yeah, but he/she wasn't an MP.

Muslims are normal people as well, you know. There are some nutters, yes, but most are the same as you or me.

But Respect has a much higher support among Muslim groups than anyone else, by a long, long margin, and sometimes advertises itself as much. (Mainly with literature with the words "Party for Muslims", and Koran readings at party fundraising meetings). Ergo, Galloway elected in a predominantly muslim constituency.

I think that's the point that whoever was trying to make.

:)

And, as another aside, it is the same characteristic that WILL condemn the BNP to political oblivion.

No matter how much your ( hypothetical ) british white power racist majority might hate ( using their words, not mine! ) N**gers, Pakis, god-knows-what-else!, no british political majority will ever accept something as appalling as concentration camps and the like!

We passionately hate the muzzie-fundamentalists - yet we wont stand for British citizens getting stuck into Gitmo without a recourse to the rights that we as a british society grant to our citizens.

If Hitler had been a British PM, and even if he had had a majority in Parliament, not all the Gestapos the Devil ever made would be enough to protect him once a whisper about the Final Solution had circulated!

I think you need to bone up on the history of concentration camps...

I think that's the point that whoever was trying to make.

No, -Somewhere- was saying Muslims aren't 'normal people'. Thats all.

Try as I might, I can't see how this is going to help his political career.
punching Bush or Blair could well make him more popular.

punching Bush or Blair could well make him more popular.

It worked for Cheney when he shot a lawyer. His numbers went up briefly.

He's george galloway people. Of course he's going to say it.

Its like saying - "Chavez Says Killing Bush is ok :eek: :eek: "

Ach... the thread title is stupid really. "British lawmaker" makes George sound far more important than he really is. Hardly anyone takes him seriously, including many from a similar spot on the political spectrum.

Personally I am from what many consider the "hard" left and I think he is a total tosspot. He openly admitted that if it wasnt politically stupid he would probably call himself a Stalinist, and he is just a nasty loony attack dog.

Only time I liked him was that US incident... now that was satisfying, but even so... he is a tosspot, a moron, and really nothing more than a political character.

Thats outrageous. Although I agree with Galloways stance on certain issues, I cannot support his statements. Way out of line. I'm sure he will receive a pretty chilly reception in Parilament to say the least.

Is this legal in the UK? Here in the US, calling for the death of your own leaders is considered a crime:

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He didn't "call for" Blair's death/assassination. He wasn't even expressing 'support' for it. He was expressing that he could understand how a would-be assassin might justify their actions. If my Prime Minister took Canada into a was that was unpopular with his own electorate and with the people of the country where that war is being prosecuted, then I would be able to understand the motivation of someone who might want to assassinate him.

"Kick his ass?" "Hang him?" If you're a fan of Blair because you think he's some great democratic leader, then how can you not defend to the utmost the democratic value of free speech? Even unpopular free speech? Even when it's about the head of a nation?

You can't really call george galloway a Lawmaker, Public entertainer maybe.

But Respect has a much higher support among Muslim groups than anyone else, by a long, long margin, and sometimes advertises itself as much. (Mainly with literature with the words "Party for Muslims", and Koran readings at party fundraising meetings). Ergo, Galloway elected in a predominantly muslim constituency.
WTF??? RESPECT are supposed to be a socialist party. Socialists should be secular.

I just keep seeing him assrape Senator Norm Coleman in HIS committee, the feckless douchebag who won because his opponent (the late Senator Paul Wellestone) died in a plane crash, and I think there is some justice in this world delivered by the strangest of people. Wellestone would have stomped Coleman into a little political greasy spot.

George Galloway, as so aptly put by many, is a tosser. But he makes for interesting copy.

We actually had a guy running for the Senate in Missouri lose to a dead man, former Atty General John Ashcroft lost to the very dead Mel Carnahan 3-5 weeks after his death (also in a plane crash), can you imagine the embrassment of losing to some dead bloke?

I imagine if any politician were to go on Big Brother, they'd look like a muppet, regardless of if they actually were or not.

And then again, there's some politicians that don't need their muppetry highlighting by reality television.
Ladies and gentlemen of the court, exhibit Boris.

you know what, I've just had a really crap day at work and reading that has made me laugh out loud and feel loads better!

I agree, however, not only is he a muppet but also a tool! :D