NationStates Jolt Archive


FBI Raid on Congressman's Office Constitutional? Certainly Productive

Myrmidonisia
26-05-2006, 14:56
I haven't seen too much written in this forum on the topic, nor do I have much to contribute except my general contempt for Congress and this gem:
http://boortz.com/images/warrents_sticker.jpg
For anyone who has missed the point, read this:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1153AP_Constitutional_Clash.html
Apparently, investigations into Congressional corruption must not include hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been stashed away in a Capitol office freezer.
The Nazz
26-05-2006, 15:59
Way to oversimplify the issue--not just you, mind you. The press has done their usual stellar job with the easy sound bites on this and has yet to ask a substantive question.
Myrmidonisia
26-05-2006, 18:22
Way to oversimplify the issue--not just you, mind you. The press has done their usual stellar job with the easy sound bites on this and has yet to ask a substantive question.
Actually, I've been away from the news for most of this period. One of the disadvantages of what I do. I've read a couple opinion pieces about it and I find it odd that Congressional leadership is forcing such an issue. Then I saw the bumper sticker and thought it was cute.

My real contempt is reserved for those Senators, none from Georgia thankfully, that voted to pass that awful immigration "reform".
Sumamba Buwhan
26-05-2006, 18:48
I don't know all the facts, but I am all for the FBI busting congress men and women for their crimes. I wish they would focus more intensively on teh crimes of our lawmakers as I think that ourleaders settign such bad ethical examples only leads to more crime from the general population. Same with violence and deceit.
Marrakech II
26-05-2006, 21:47
Yep, will have to agree with this one. Criminal activities in our government need to be kept to a minimum. Once it is let go and become common place this place will appear the same as Mexico or any other third world tinpot corrupt nation. Corruption is the downfall of Democracy. It has to be stopped and rooted out at all government levels. This guy needs to be in jail.
The Nazz
26-05-2006, 22:43
I don't know all the facts, but I am all for the FBI busting congress men and women for their crimes. I wish they would focus more intensively on teh crimes of our lawmakers as I think that ourleaders settign such bad ethical examples only leads to more crime from the general population. Same with violence and deceit.
So am I, and I can even see the justification for this raid--I said in another thread that Jefferson's case is a bad one to use to defend Congressional prerogative because by all accounts, he's been stalling and refusing to make documents available that have been subpoenaed. But the reason that Congress is standing on this issue is because of the future threat that this poses--a President could use his authority over the Justice department to harass "innocent" (scare quotes, because it's a relative level of innocence) members of the opposition party in Congress into supporting him. It is, on a significant level, a question of the separation of powers.

Now in Jefferson's case, it sounds like he may have been using his Congressional office to keep damning evidence from the prosecution, and it looks like not only the prosecution, but a judge as well, got tired of his shit and apporved the raid. Since the judicial branch is involved as well, I'm more willing to think the raid was justified--two branches against one, after all.
Overfloater
26-05-2006, 22:54
I'll feel sorry for them when they start respecting our consitutional freedoms and repeal the PATRIOT Act, among other things.
Francis Street
26-05-2006, 23:05
Apparently, investigations into Congressional corruption must not include hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been stashed away in a Capitol office freezer.
Gives new meaning to the term "cold, hard cash". :D