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Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, Bisexuality.
Who you are attracted to is limited to a gender, why?
The majority of people I know in real life don't actually say they have a sexuality, merely preferences, and not always them either.
As far as i've been able to tell, me & people I know, when thinking introspectively, say that they're attracted to people, gender regardless.
Of course I do know some people who insist that they are ONLY straight, or ONLY gay. And that's fine for them, I really don't mind, im not saying that extreme preferences is bad, its just another way to like people.

Would we be better off if sexual Orientations were removed, and just treated relationships on a per-person basis?

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When I'm attracted to someone, it's not what's in there pants, it's who they are


Cmon people, discussion would be nice. If you're Gay, Straight, Bi, A, or Tri. leave a post with your opinion on this matter.

Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, Bisexuality.
Who you are attracted to is limited to a gender, why?
The majority of people I know in real life don't actually say they have a sexuality, merely preferences, and not always them either.
As far as i've been able to tell, me & people I know, when thinking introspectively, say that they're attracted to people, gender regardless.
Of course I do know some people who insist that they are ONLY straight, or ONLY gay. And that's fine for them, I really don't mind, im not saying that extreme preferences is bad, its jsut another way to like people.

Would we be better off if sexual Orientations were removed, and just treated relationships on a per-person basis?

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When I'm attracted to someone, it's not what's in there pants, it's who they are
Oh lawdy you know this is going to spamalanche (props JuNii)
Especially if Verdigroth gets on. :eek:

My own answers are - i dislike people of either sex who act overtly feminine OR masculine (with the intent of making me believe it). I usually immediately respond in an opposite fashion.

Ooh - fun fact. I just discovered that my dad's attraction to Charro is DIRECTLY corollary to my attraction to Shakira. Well, almost. Mine's a smidge more psycho-sexual, i think. Then again, i never asked :rolleyes:

Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, Bisexuality.
Who you are attracted to is limited to a gender, why?
The majority of people I know in real life don't actually say they have a sexuality, merely preferences, and not always them either.
As far as i've been able to tell, me & people I know, when thinking introspectively, say that they're attracted to people, gender regardless.
Of course I do know some people who insist that they are ONLY straight, or ONLY gay. And that's fine for them, I really don't mind, im not saying that extreme preferences is bad, its just another way to like people.

Would we be better off if sexual Orientations were removed, and just treated relationships on a per-person basis?

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When I'm attracted to someone, it's not what's in there pants, it's who they are


Cmon people, discussion would be nice. If you're Gay, Straight, Bi, A, or Tri. leave a post with your opinion on this matter.

I'm liberal at heart, which is why it pains me to say that from a scientific perspective, sexual orientation is not a false construct. Men are generally attracted to women for a good reason - it increases reproductive success. Natural selection can be pretty darned heartless. As much as the dichotomy is abused by bible-bangers and neocons, the idea that there is no such thing as a sexual attraction to a particular gender is pretty insubstanciated.

That said, I'm happy to report that the reasons for deviations from the "typical" phenotype are also explained by evolutionary theory. Sexual preference is actually very much so an inherited trait, and because it's directly dependant on at least 2 (most probably dozens) of genes, it's quite possible for a person to naturally be to, say, personality or looks, completely regardless of gender (or at least with only slight tendancies).

So how is it possible to have gender preferences while having a big range of possible orientations (practically a complete sliding scale)? One main reason: societal pressure (though this probably accounts mostly for teen years). I look at it like this - you're born with a certain innate preference, which is then subtly shaped by your formative years. Then, society pigeon-holes you into existing stereotypes during your teen years until you can regain your footing and figure out your own natural tendancies.

In some ways I don't like the different sexuality stamps people get...it's just one more way to divide us. And there are plenty of ways to do that already :(
The best thing would be to let people fuck whoever they want and fall in love with whoever they want. In my opinion there ARE different sexualities, like homosexual, bisexual, straight and so on. I just don't really see the reason to actually use them.

Though I gotta say...it's not extreme to be only attracted to one gender. Opposed to your experience me, and almost every single person I know, are attracted to only one gender. I assume you were talking about physical attraction by the way, am I correct? There's simply nothing in the world that is going to make me hump a guy...unless *he* takes female hormones and gets a well done sex change...but by then he will be a she so I didn't really have a point there. Then again I would hump a guy if I got enough money for it...we're ll whores deep inside our little hearts ;P

Would we be better off if sexual Orientations were removed, and just treated relationships on a per-person basis?

Well, can't be helped. I'm not sexually attracted to guys, i'm afraid. Not much I can do about that.

As f*cked up as i sound here, IRL i find myself STRONGLY appreciative of feminine wiles, in the sexual sense, of course. Any time i have the question posed to me, it's resolved pretty quick-like.
I can see where guys can have particularly attractive characteristics, but the only thing to stir the ol' mojo for me is definitely mujeres.

I can see where guys can have particularly attractive characteristics, but the only thing to stir the ol' mojo for me is definitely mujeres.

Same here. I have no problems with looking at other guys and making comments on how good they look. There are many guys in the world, some look bad, some look good. However, commenting on other males looks doesn't stir any...emotion in me. When I see an attractive female I appreciate her exterior on a whole different level.

Treating relationships on a person-per-person basis is certainly a very interesting idea, albeit a rather queer one. However, I consider myself straight and have yet to desire any sort of romantic intimacy with another guy. I mean, seriously, from an aesthetic point of view, females are just better looking, no? ($20 says that someone instantly disagrees with me)

If I were more bisexual, I would like this idea a lot. But as it is, I think that our sexuality is one of the things that characterizes our personality, and I don't see a reason to not acknowledge that (although it would, perhaps, eliminate some of the bigotry we see).

We've had a lot of evolution behind us telling us to GET BEHIND THAT B**** AND MAKE SOME BABIES!!! Now, I don't really claim to know exactly why some people are homosexual or bisexual or whatever else, as that goes against the grain of most of our genetic conditioning. My best (and only moderately educated) guess is that fairly random developmental factors early on in life make some people just feel sexually attracted to members of their own sex (or of both sexes, or whatever).

I agree. Being female I get my kicks from seeing guys, but I certainly appreciate a good looking woman, but not in the same sense. I think half the problem is labeling sexualities. We wouldn't even think about them, let alone let them cause problems, if we didn't label/name them.

Same here. I have no problems with looking at other guys and making comments on how good they look. There are many guys in the world, some look bad, some look good. However, commenting on other males looks doesn't stir any...emotion in me. When I see an attractive female I appreciate her exterior on a whole different level.
Yep. That's what i'm talking about. *nods emphatically*

All very nice replies, well thought out opinions.

Just to add more fuel (surprised it hasn't been flamed down, but can we keep it that way?) if its a genetic thing, the genes would have to be reccesive yes? or they wouldn't get passed on, in which case, would there be that many people in a same-gender relationship?

I am a male that prefers females, society would throw me into Straight, or Bi-curious.
But curious as a sexuality? that just sounds wrong to me.


Would you say we are attracted to traits? body shape, facial features etc.
Or is it really important what gender they are?

And by attraction i do mean physically, but also romantically. (i assume people here understand what the difference is when i say it)


oh, and feel free to be with who-ever you want, as long as all involved (all, not neccesarily both) consent, i really dont mind what you do. If you want me involved, get my consent :>

Terribly sorry to say this, but what are "wiles" and "mujeres?"

Anyway, homosexuality is actually controlled by a gene (the alteration of which would change your orientation). As for being bisexual, I don't fully understand that yet; there haven't been enough studies. (Although, the New York Times did conduct one test once where they "tested" (don't ask) lots of men who claimed to be bi, gay, and straight. In almost all of the cases, the person wasn't really bisexual, but just gay or straight (Many people arrently use it as a stepping stone to tell their friends and family.).) Nonetheless, I haven't heard enough studies on bisexuality to say anything authoritatively.

One other question, though? How can you be "tri?" Is there some other gender I haven't heard about? Are people hiding things from me? Conspiracy...

They already have a sexuality for 'person to person' basis.. it's called Bi-Sexuality, Liking both genders.

In my opinion males are more attracted to females and females are more attracted to males by MAJORITY, this is good because it keeps our race alive, I however do not object in the slightest to Homosexuality because our race is in no dire need of a 'mass population boost'.

Personally I believe it is a sliding scale, rather than a simple yes/no issue- that most people are bisexual to a certain extent and it just depends on how far along that scale you are as to what your preference is. Certainly a lot of men and women deny their homosexuality when young, go on to get married and have children, then "come out" some years later; though this is probably due to environmental pressures within society that they are less governed by when older.

One problem I have with the term Bisexuality is that it means liking both genders. What I am looking for is the term for I-Just-Don't-Care-Sexual


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisexual
"It indicates an interest in transgender persons in addition to cissexual men and women."

Theres also Asexual, not interested (also called Pomosexual)
and Pan(or Omni)sexual. which is liking male, female, and other, whatever it may be. Alot closer to what i'm suggesting for the per-person thing, but still not quite there.
Though knowing society it will be the closest i will ever get to the right word, mainly because it still allows for preferences
"Despite a pansexual's fluidity of sexuality, some may have a preference. A pansexual may be attracted to all genders and sexes, but have a preference, for example: for transexual men,other pansexuals, butch lesbians, intersexed persons, etc."

That applies to a lot of bisexual people. What it really means is being happy either way.

Personally I believe it is a sliding scale, rather than a simple yes/no issue- that most people are bisexual to a certain extent and it just depends on how far along that scale you are as to what your preference is.

That was exactly the conclusion of Dr. Alfred Kinsey, the first man to study sex and sexuality (and consequentially be completely rejected by society (This was during the fifties and sixties.)).

I am a zoophile. It's not a sexuality people regularly consider.

I am a zoophile. It's not a sexuality people regularly consider.

Beastacy? Are you serious? :confused:

Have you ever done that before?

I am a zoophile. It's not a sexuality people regularly consider.

I find that odd, but i'm a furry, so how can i judge.

And i dont like the Kinsey scale, whilst its a great idea, and a brave one. its a measure of how gay/straight you are. A full scale would include everything, gayness/straightness leaves out a few options there.

One problem I have with the term Bisexuality is that it means liking both genders. What I am looking for is the term for I-Just-Don't-Care-Sexual


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisexual
"It indicates an interest in transgender persons in addition to cissexual men and women."


What you are referring to is called PANSEXUAL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexual
Someone who is not concerned with gender either way, including anyone who does not fit traditional gender roles.

Personally, Im a TRISEXUAL. In the words of the great David Bowie, "I'm willing to try anything..." But thats just a pun on bisexuality. No matter how you slice it, sex is gooood.

Beastacy? Are you serious? :confused:

Have you ever done that before?


If so, did the angry townspeople lynch you?

And read a list of demands?

The top of which was to demand the immediate return of Fluffy.

I find that odd, but i'm a furry, so how can i judge.

Its a measure of how gay/straight you are. A full scale would include everything, gayness/straightness leaves out a few options there.

Like what?

Like what?

Where does someone who likes hermaphrodites in particular sit? theres other genders then male/female, so theres more specific sexual orientations then gay/straight

If so, did the angry townspeople lynch you?

And read a list of demands?

The top of which was to demand the immediate return of Fluffy.

Hey! What goes on between a consenting man and his cow is none of your business. :p

And i dont like the Kinsey scale, whilst its a great idea, and a brave one. its a measure of how gay/straight you are. A full scale would include everything, gayness/straightness leaves out a few options there.


Would you mind telling me more of Kinsey? I saw a PBS documentary on him once, so a know quite a bit about his personal life but not his actual studies. Care to help?

Hey! What goes on between a consenting man and his cow is none of your business. :p


Make sure the cow is consenting :> If its happy with the situation, i wont complain (wont watch, or even be near, but no complaints)

Terribly sorry to say this, but what are "wiles" and "mujeres?"
Mujeres - women (sp.)
wiles - http://www.answers.com/topic/wile

i heard only 5-10% of the world is fully gay or straight...

Hey! What goes on between a consenting man and his cow is none of your business. :p

Of course it's none of my business. (Now we know the truth about old MacDonald. (Childhood barnyard animals gone horribly horribly wrong)) Besides, men have sex with cows all the time. They're called ex-wives.

There was a scene in the film Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask in which Gene Wilder was taken to court for "experiencing mature love" with a sheep, where the judge then commented, "This was a particularly hanus act considering that the sheep was underage."

:D

Would you mind telling me more of Kinsey? I saw a PBS documentary on him once, so a know quite a bit about his personal life but not his actual studies. Care to help?

ouch, i can't really say i know that much about his studies, he has a website though http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/

Hey! What goes on between a consenting man and his cow is none of your business. :p

No wonder you're having bad luck in the bedroom. The cow would never fit through the door. Of course, givin the way obesity is now adays, probability says, neither would you.

Make sure the cow is consenting :> If its happy with the situation, i wont complain (wont watch, or even be near, but no complaints)

Jokes aside here...I'm going to be fully straight with you (hohoo, what stellar humour I have!!!). If I saw some guy humping a cow or a pony I'd kick his ass. I'm a fairly tolerant person but let's keep it within our own race =)
Unless one is abducted by some hot alien in a flying saucer. Then it's ok to hump them. But only if they're hot.

And by race I mean humans.

ouch, i can't really say i know that much about his studies, he has a website though http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/

Thanks. That should help. :)

No wonder you're having bad luck in the bedroom. The cow would never fit through the door. Of course, givin the way obesity is now adays, probability says, neither would you.

I admit, I've had some bad luck in the bedroom in the past. My ex accidentally kicked my in the nuts once. I've sprained my little soldier during the act, I've hit my head into the wall/drawer and I've hurt my back a two times. Once I even slipped while applying a condom and it ended up flicking my balls...very painfull. But I've never fucked a cow :D

Jokes aside here...I'm going to be fully straight with you (hohoo, what stellar humour I have!!!). If I saw some guy humping a cow or a pony I'd kick his ass. I'm a fairly tolerant person but let's keep it within our own race =)
Unless one is abducted by some hot alien in a flying saucer. Then it's ok to hump them. But only if they're hot.

And by race I mean humans.


I only agree because they're in a situation where i accidently see them. That's inapropriate.

I admit, I've had some bad luck in the bedroom in the past. My ex accidentally kicked my in the nuts once. I've sprained my little soldier during the act, I've hit my head into the wall/drawer and I've hurt my back a two times. Once I even slipped while applying a condom and it ended up flicking my balls...very painfull. But I've never fucked a cow :D

My Friend (who shall remain nameless for his sake) tore his frenulum. Worst experience ever. On a pain scale of 1-10, with 1 being so hopped up on morphine you cant feel anything, not that anythings happening that would hurt, and 10 being childbirth, torn frenulum is 8!!! theres nothing that is 9 except incredibly pleasant childbirths.

Actually wikipedia says its not normally very painful, just bleeds alot, but from what people have told me from first hand experience, the pain can literally be blinding.

Chicks with Dicks.... need i say more??? :confused: i mean if ou wanted the best of both worlds, what more could you ask for?

My Friend (who shall remain nameless for his sake) tore his frenulum. Worst experience ever. On a pain scale of 1-10, with 1 being so hopped up on morphine you cant feel anything, not that anythings happening that would hurt, and 10 being childbirth, torn frenulum is 8!!! theres nothing that is 9 except incredibly pleasant childbirths.

Actually wikipedia says its not normally very painful, just bleeds alot, but from what people have told me from first hand experience, the pain can literally be blinding.

Thanks man...you almost made me cry! :(
I will have to be careful with my dick I guess, I don't really want anything on it to tear or in any other way be violently altered.

'Fraid I haven't heard of a "frenulum" before... is it a British term or something? Because I know I was awake during sex ed...

Chicks with Dicks.... need i say more??? i mean if ou wanted the best of both worlds, what more could you ask for?
Umm... personally I would prefer one from each world. But I'd really rather have two females. The best & second-best of one world.

I admit, I've had some bad luck in the bedroom in the past. My ex accidentally kicked my in the nuts once. I've sprained my little soldier during the act, I've hit my head into the wall/drawer and I've hurt my back a two times. Once I even slipped while applying a condom and it ended up flicking my balls...very painfull.
Reminds me of a joke I heard awhile back...

What do you call lesbian safe sex?



Padded headboards.

Dont worry about it, its uncommon and the doctors understand that it happens, it mainly scared the crap out of his Girlfriend, and was... inconvenient for a while, that pain was gone fast, its like a papercut, to the max

I feel dimwitted today. Can you please explain the joke to me? I know it won't be as fun then but I'm begging you on my bare little knees.

OK, well the gist of the joke is that normally, when people think of 'safe sex' they think of condoms. But since lesbians don't use condoms (I don't think they do, at least!), it gets taken in a whole new direction, which is physical safety from injuries (like Meat & Mead did when he hit his head on the cabinet). Hence the padded headboards.

Here's another one:


What do you call two lesbians in a closet?


A liquor cabinet (say this out loud if you don't understand it; preferably in front of co-workers)

I am a zoophile. It's not a sexuality people regularly consider.
Ya know, your nationname and postcount are just a smidge misleading.
Don't mince words!