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Let's say there is a major battle between vampires, zombies, and werewolves. and all humans must choose a side, even though odds are whoever wins will enslave the human race, and might kill you if not turn you to their side.

But none the less a choice has to be made...

who would you choose? and why?

*EDIT*you can use any type of wolf,vamp,undead from any style of folklore, as long as it pertains to the matter at hand


Personally I'd go with the werewolves, for reasons which i will post shorty in the mean time i gotta work on the poll.......

I voted for the undead. I'd rather be a slave than dead. Within reason. I would rather be dead than be a sex slave, but I doubt that the undead have any sex drive left.

If it weren't for the fact that I would be fighting to be food, I would join the vampires. The werewolves are also tempting but they do have a sex drive, and I think that sex slaves would be pretty common with them (though I doubt that I would be made one with my incredibly unsexy body). That and they would probably also be eating their supporters.

So I guess my answer is that I would aid the undead.

Wolves, cause they can have a social life :D

Bah, any of the three that came within 300m and within line of site of my house would meet a hail of gunfire. Whether or not it would (re)kill them is an entirely different matter, of course. I don't happen to keep a stockpile of silver bullets in 7.62x39.

Kinda torn between vamps and wolves. I mean both of them are likely to eat you. Vamps are typically considered more cultured, but wolves don't have the sunlight weakness.

Ok, puppies it is, not that I value sunbathing, but it's nice to have as few restrictions as possible.

Having just watched Hellsing, I have to say vampires. Alucard might well kill me but meh.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Werewolf.jpg

Vampires...they're immortal and much more sophisticated than the other two. Although I would personally prefer to be a lich, I'll take vampire as a close second.

Meh I would just strap as much ammo on me as I could, I would then take a couple of machine guns, a shotgun, a pistol and a rifle with me, and I would just fight all of them!

:mp5: :sniper: :gundge:

Hmm, three enemies I can freely kill with no moral ambiguity, no rules of engagement, and no mercy...three enemies with whom negotiations and surrender are not an option...

No question...I'd fight to my last bloodchoked breath. Unlike some people, I don't consider slavery preferable to death. Besides, I have women and children I'm obligated to protect.

Definitely vampires, they are most civil of all available selections and have cool powers as well. The sunlight issue is a real problem though.... I suppose lots of sunblock could help.

Zombies all the way! Since all but the zombie and vampire casulties in this war would strengthen the zombie cause I can see them winning. Vampires get spanked during the day, werewolves every day and every night there isn't a full moon.

Zombies all the way! Since all but the zombie and vampire casulties in this war would strengthen the zombie cause I can see them winning. Vampires get spanked during the day, werewolves every day and every night there isn't a full moon.
Which gets me thinking: What would happen to a Werewolf who's bitten by a zombie?

Wouldn't that make him a Werewolfzombie?

Which gets me thinking: What would happen to a Werewolf who's bitten by a zombie?

Wouldn't that make him a Werewolfzombie?
That depends what kind of zombie it is. In some cases it'd just make it a werewolf with a bite wound.

That depends what kind of zombie it is. In some cases it'd just make it a werewolf with a bite wound.
Well, graaagh!

Werewolves.

Becouse they are sexy and have social pack life.
Are animalitically and havey no morals or inhibition while vampires
have all weird out pervets needs and I think vampires are moralists becouse
they drink blood and therefore punnish sexy women or punnish the unfaithfull who aren't religious enouth to do the cross or prayers.
Would like to be an fun-fun woffie . I would love running around in the wilds and hunt and play and have sex.

Wherewolves are also strong terrifiying gigants who can hide as humans under alternative identities.
Besides werewolves can eat animals vampires can't.
Werewoffies always have friends in the pack who are fiercly loyal
and always have possibilities in the pack hierachy.
In addition I would be free to kill whoever I like and have lots of sex.
Would it be booring I could always swicth human for a while
and combine the best of two worlds.

Undeads are disgusting and humans have done so much wrong through time that they don't deserve to exist.
In addition werewolves doesn't need humans for food like the others.

:sniper: .

So I guess my answer is that I would aid the undead.

But that don't make any sense, cos the undead would definitely try to eat you. Just about every zombie film ever made has a bunch of lurchers wandering around, trying to pull your arms off and moaning 'braaaaaaaaaaaains'.

avoid the undead.
Easily done, they're kinda stupid. And, if you barricade yourself in a building and get on the roof you can :sniper: an awful lot of zombies in a short space of time. In every zombie film there is always 1 mad gun shop owner (MGSO) stuck on a roof. Usually little food but, literally, tonnes of ammo. One MGSO, working an eight hour day, seven days a week, could deliver a head-shot to the entire population of New York in just over nine years. That's assuming everybody in New York but him has been zombified. And that no zombies die of other means. And that he is the only MGSO. And that the vampires and werewolves aren't also attacking the zombies. So, in reality ... err ... the reality where it's a four-way fight between zombies, humans, werewolves and vampires ... the zombies would lose and lose quickly.

Vampires
Definitely a better choice than zombies ... non-aging, super-fast, regenerative and so on. But ... can only be active for half a 24-hour period. That's a big plus if they live in say, northern Sweden during the winter months, a big downer if they liver in northern Sweden during the summer months. During the daytime coma they would be very vulnerable to attack by the zombies, werewolves and humans. And, whether they are the cool, mysterious urbane sexy kind of vamp or the ravening monster, they'd still want to eat you. It's that blood-lust thing. They might promise to make you one of them but vamps are notoriously disloyal and prone to changing their minds.

Werewolves
Definitely the best bet ... non-aging, super-fast, regenerative. They are more than a match for a zombie, equal to a vampire at night and more than equal in the day time. Human most of the time - can chain themselves up at full moon if the raging monster type or alternatively if the urbane type (like in Underworld) can control themselves. Werewolves are a form of doggy and doggies are reknowed for loyalty and clan-looking-after each other behaviour. Look at the Lycans in Underworld. In one scene, they are fighting each other for fun and the head dog comes in and sorts them all out. The sign of a leader who cares. And, as werewolves are either not subject to mad rages or can easily isolate themselves at regular periods, are far less likely to eat you.
And werewolves don't exclusively eat humans. The can eat any kind of meat other than you. And, if they have any intelligence, which most werewolves seem to have, they will recognise the benefits of having a large coterie of human servants.

Yes, in the even of the Armageddon of Horror, you're best throwing your lot in with the Werewolves.

My choice? I'd throw my lot in with the Humans. In just about every horror film they nearly always win, plus in real life we have machine guns, barbed wire, apache heli-attack-copters, nuclear submarines and all kinds of cool stuff the will pwn the denizens of the Underworld back to Hell. And our troops have got the experience to use 'em. When it comes to battle troops, Humans kick ass!

Vampire.

Vampires can fly to great heights, a feat zombies and werewolves are incapable of, weild ranged weapons, which mindless zombies and pawed werewolves are incapable of. They are stealthier than either a zombie or a werewolf, stronger than a zombie, faster than a werewolf, less constrained than a werewolf (who only gets a few days a week), and quite capable of hiding from a zombie (face it, they just aren't that bright). Vampires could lead an effective insurgent attack anywhere and are normally capable of feats of quick assassination which would render werewolves and zombies totally inneffective.

Besides which, Vampires retain a mind of their own. They are the evil genious type, not the mindless beast type. They are also skilled at other things than fighting or killing, often more interesting chraracters, and never lack for sex-appeal.

Sounds like a deal to me.

avoid the undead.
Easily done, they're kinda stupid. And, if you barricade yourself in a building and get on the roof you can an awful lot of zombies in a short space of time. In every zombie film there is always 1 mad gun shop owner (MGSO) stuck on a roof. Usually little food but, literally, tonnes of ammo. One MGSO, working an eight hour day, seven days a week, could deliver a head-shot to the entire population of New York in just over nine years. That's assuming everybody in New York but him has been zombified. And that no zombies die of other means. And that he is the only MGSO. And that the vampires and werewolves aren't also attacking the zombies. So, in reality ... err ... the reality where it's a four-way fight between zombies, humans, werewolves and vampires ... the zombies would lose and lose quickly.

Not necessarily stupid. Ever seen Day of the Dead, or Land of the Dead? They caught on quickly...

Also, how is one person going to make an 11th hour stronghold? It's near impossible. And with little or no food, working an 8 hour day, seven days a week is not feasible. In fact, survival is low, at that point. After a long enough time, no food impairs one's ability to sniper well. What about the zombies that infect others outside the city? The ones who don't go near that shop?

Also, zombies wouldn't mess with Vamps...they want live flesh, not more undead flesh. The wolves? Well, they tear stuff up, so not a big deal, there. I have a feeling that the wolves, who can't deliver a headshot, wouldn't care, and the vamps would use zombies as an allied force.

I'm with the undead.

Not necessarily stupid. Ever seen Day of the Dead, or Land of the Dead? They caught on quickly...

Yes and even then they were still very dim. A six-year old child could outwit them. And out run them (depending on which Land of the Dead you look at). I


Also, how is one person going to make an 11th hour stronghold? It's near impossible.


I don't buy this 'ping! and all of a sudden all the zombies appear!' scenario. There wouldn't be an 11th hour. it would be a slow decay as more zombies appeared on the scene, but then the authorities would very quickly get a grip on it a la Shaun of the Dead.


And with little or no food, working an 8 hour day, seven days a week is not feasible. In fact, survival is low, at that point. After a long enough time, no food impairs one's ability to sniper well. What about the zombies that infect others outside the city? The ones who don't go near that shop?


You're taking me too literally. The whole point about the gun-shop owner analysis was to show how useless zombies are in a battle. They're too dim to do anything than hang around and moan. They attack melee style albeit sooooooo sloooooow. And they would be absolutely useless against anyone with a ranged weapon firing from a prepared defensive position of any kind - even if that was merely a wall with a firing spot. Hell, the Battle of Rouke's Drift proved the last point and that was ranged weapon bearing soldiers in a prepared defensive position (a farmhouse) fighting against a horde of rock-hard Zulu warriors. The only chance a zombie has it to get close and bite the opponent which is no good if the opponent is any of the following - human-speed to super-fast, super-strong, capable of flight, capable of making defensive positions, has any kind of intelligence, capable of bearing ranged weapons of any kind.

In the event of a zombie-attack you'd get (in the US anyway) gangs riding around in cars taking pot-shots at the undead. In places like Pakistan they'd just open up with ak-47s. Zombies don't have a chance against humans.


Also, zombies wouldn't mess with Vamps...they want live flesh, not more undead flesh. The wolves? Well, they tear stuff up, so not a big deal, there. I have a feeling that the wolves, who can't deliver a headshot, wouldn't care, and the vamps would use zombies as an allied force.


Agreed - I don't see why the Zombies would attack Vamps - not a food source. But Vamps would destroy Zombies on the grounds of (a) unhygienic (b) Zombies are too uncool to be allowed to exist in the eyes of an aesthete like a Vamp (c) competition for food. Vamps may be unattractive food sources to Zombies, but both Zombies and Vamps need to eat humans. Vampires, being intelligent, would make a very quick and simple choice: eliminate Zombies. Now, if Zombies ain't got no chance against humans, they definitely don't have any chance against Vampires.

Werewolves v Zombies
Werewolves could view Zombies as a food-source. And an easy one at that. Assume zombies and WW have the same strength. You still have to give it to the WW - faster and brighter generally. Plus the WW have big fuck-off claws. Now if the WW are Lycans like in Underworld, then they have complete control over their WW form. They would have all the best attributes of Humanity - intelligence, speed, ability to bear ranged weapons etc, and the ability to really really rough it up in a melee. If WW are like Lycans, they will likely have the same reasons as the Vamps to eliminate the Zombies. Plus, the WW will also likely regard the Zombies as a threat - after all, in their human form, WW would be a food-source for Zombies. Even if, in their WW form, the WW are ravening monsters then it still makes sense for the WW to ally with the Humans when the WW are in their human form. Zombies have no chance against Werewolves.


I'm with the undead.


With a name like Zombie Alliance, no shit Sherlock, really?:D Your choice does surprise! :p

I love zombies, but I have to give it to the vampires. (Assuming you mean the attractive vampires and not the zombie-with-limited-food-selection of old world fame. If that's the case then I'll just be a zombie.)

Zombies.

Vampires are no good during the day. Werewovles need a full moon to function fully. Zombies just keep going & going & going. Plus you can have shotgun fun with them.

Werewolves
Definitely the best bet ... non-aging, super-fast, regenerative. They are more than a match for a zombie, equal to a vampire at night and more than equal in the day time. Human most of the time - can chain themselves up at full moon if the raging monster type or alternatively if the urbane type (like in Underworld) can control themselves.
Yep. If we are to assume the werewolves are Underworld type ones, you have basically a human who can set themselves up defensively and pick off zombies with a hih-powered gun. If/When he's over-run, he can change into a werewolve and, if not use his wolf-speed and strength to escape, at least take a helluva lot of zombies out with him.
And they don't have the weakeness of needing a human food-source. Vampirs would be forced to fight alongside humans and protect them against the zombies, just so they've got someone to drink later. That puts them in a defensive position, open to attack from both sides. Let's face it - would you be happy to have a vampire fight for you, knowing it's just so they can kill you later, themselves? First thing a human would do, as soon as the zombie menace was gone would be shoot the vamps.
Werewolves on the other hand, don't need humans. So would just look after their own.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Werewolf.jpg
Fuck yeah! *howels at the moon, then growles at lowly humans*

Zombies.

Vampires are no good during the day. Werewovles need a full moon to function fully. Zombies just keep going & going & going. Plus you can have shotgun fun with them.
But unlike vampires, they can still function as normal humans. So they can still fight the zombie hordes. Just 3 days a month, they can really kick zombie arse.
Zombies don't seem to bother with animals, so would they attack a werewolve? That's debateable.
If not, then...
With the Underworld werewolves, they could shapeshift and stay in wolf form and then go round ripping apart any and every zombie with impunity. Or stay as human, shooting them til they get close then change and escape cause the zombies don't attack wolves.
With the traditional, 3-days-a-month, lycan it'd be similar to above, just a bit more difficult. Hold up somewhere safe until the full moon, then go on a zombie rampage.

Just a bit of info, vamps are human during the day, as described by Bram Stoker in Drakula.

avoid the undead.
Easily done, they're kinda stupid. And, if you barricade yourself in a building and get on the roof you can :sniper: an awful lot of zombies in a short space of time. In every zombie film there is always 1 mad gun shop owner (MGSO) stuck on a roof. Usually little food but, literally, tonnes of ammo. One MGSO, working an eight hour day, seven days a week, could deliver a head-shot to the entire population of New York in just over nine years. That's assuming everybody in New York but him has been zombified. And that no zombies die of other means. And that he is the only MGSO. And that the vampires and werewolves aren't also attacking the zombies. So, in reality ... err ... the reality where it's a four-way fight between zombies, humans, werewolves and vampires ... the zombies would lose and lose quickly.
See, that's something I can never understand about zombie movies, especially in the US.
There's gun stores everywhere, with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of bullets. So if the hordes turn up, why does no-one ever stockpile a shit load of food and barricade themselves in a gunstore and then spend their days picking off the zombies as they're staggering around aimlessly?
If every gunstore was utilised this way (not to mention the gunwhackos out there with stockpiled guns and 1 mill of bullets), the zombie hordes would pretty soon disappear, imo.

I'll barricade myself in my home and make them seek me out. 90 million rifles would make a difference in any outcome.

Vampires? easy, use my silverplated M1 garand bayonet.

Zombies? Psshaaw, we gunnuts fantasize about zombies becaue it's open season on them and they're so slow.

Werewolves? Flamethrower. Better bring extra packs.

Just a bit of info, vamps are human during the day, as described by Bram Stoker in Drakula.

...Well, this all depends. Are we going with Anne Rice Vampires, Bram Stoker Vampires, Castlebvainia Vampries.

It also depends on what type of Warewolves we're talking about.

Undead is too vague of a term, by undead do you mean zombies, Liches, or even wraiths?

All and all this topic is too vague, but if I HAD to pick on of the options, I'd go with the vampires. A few simple reasons.

1) Undead would give no safty. They'd just eat you.
2) I don't like the smell of wet dog.
3) I can easily kill zombies.
4) Vampires would spare me if they found me useful.

Tough one. Under no circumstances would it be the undead; they creep me out. i actually think I have a phobia of them. I have had nightmares about hordes of zombies. One of them was just last night.

Vampires, maybe, except for the fact that they feed on humans all the time. the problem is that they tend to be so Emo that I would go insane with them running the world. It would be like having a world run by depressed 15 year olds, not pretty.

Werewolves would be the best bet. I actually have a penchant for dogs anyways. You would only have to compleatley deal with them during a full moon, so a person's odd's would be greatest in this senario.

I WOULD join the vampires, but I find more fun in trying to fend off mass hordes of the undead rather then just easily destroying everyone else. By the way, my step-dad is an avid gun collecter. He has a closest full of guns. Included in the closet are about every gun you can own legally, and a few you can't. Can you say I'm working on my Dirty Harry impersonation? *Holds .44 special up to werewolves head* "Are you feeling lucky? Huh? Are you, punk?"

I'll barricade myself in my home and make them seek me out. 90 million rifles would make a difference in any outcome.

Vampires? easy, use my silverplated M1 garand bayonet.

Zombies? Psshaaw, we gunnuts fantasize about zombies becaue it's open season on them and they're so slow.

Werewolves? Flamethrower. Better bring extra packs.


And this is why I'd throw my lot in with the Humans!

Unless the werewolves were Lycans from Underworld. They pwn all!

im definately a werewolve.... but then again i cant pass up an oppertunity to hunt down some zombies.vamps i dont care much for vamps. the vamps are gothy and emo'ish. and werewolves are more my style DEATH METAL. but then again i have always dreamed of going on a zombie hunt.either zombie infected like on 28 days later or zombies from DAWN.

I think I'd get together a ton of weapons, ammo, food, water and so on, then fortify the local church, and hide there. (Shoot and pray!) Anyway, that way the vampires couldn't come and get me (since they can't go on holy ground), and that place is built like a friggen fort in the first place... yeah, I'm all for the humans... anyway, if it was the apocalypse and I died fighting the Hordes of Doom, wouldn't I get to go straight to heaven? ;)

Fuck yeah! *howels at the moon, then growles at lowly humans*
Me: http://www.searchingwolf.com/howl.wav
Echo: http://www.searchingwolf.com/chorus3.wav

Can you say I'm working on my Dirty Harry impersonation? *Holds .44 special up to werewolves head* "Are you feeling lucky? Huh? Are you, punk?"
Try that - and make my day: http://www.searchingwolf.com/nkgrowl1.wav

Unless you stack silver bullets - you got one pissed-off werewolf chewing on you. Don't have silver bullets? Thought so!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/L-Werewolf.gif :eek: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/R-Werewolf.gif

Easy:

Sit on my balcony with:
- an SKS
- an 8mm mauser
- a 7.62 mosin nagant
- a .22 ruger just in case I run out
- Probably would make some pipe bombs, maybe around 20 or so
- 5 propane or kerosene tanks to throw out in a crowd of zombies and shoot
- A SMG if I can get a hold of it.
- A .45 pistol
- Maybe an assault rifle if I can get hold of it.
- An army ranger knife
- A ninja star
- A hunting knife

Come get some fiends!

BTW: I have everything listed, except for the smg, assault rifle and pipe bombs. Course, the guns are my fathers, since I'm only a yuning

Vampires. Because they're great.

I'll go with the vampires, 'cuz them's got style, yo!

After reading through all of this, I've noticed several comments. Most especially about Vampires.

Vampires can walk during daytime: just think, they could wear those fully-sealed suits (ala, Blade: Trinity) or make-up (ala Blade). They have vast resources, they usually can access lots of high-speed, low-drag stuff.

Zombies are pathetic bullet sponges. Even the ones from Resident Evil. Me and my M60E4 (plenty of belts of 7.62x51mm), M18A1 Claymore and M16 Bouncing Betty mines, the barbed wire, the mortars, the AH-1Z Super Cobra, etc...

Werewolves... are OK. However, alot of silver nitrate grenades and good old-fashioned oil trenches can keep them at bay.

Humans... have all sorts of stuff, but nowhere near the physical capabilities. That, and while they might have the training, training ain't nothing if you don't have the intel.

Definately Werewolves. They can kick the shit out of anything. Especially those Underworld Werewolves.

I'm on the side that spells poll questions correctly.

*runs*

I want to be forever young.

Werewolves. They are capable of having morals. Vampires drink blood, while zombies are either mindless, eat brains, or both. Werewolves turn into wolves every full moon - nothing immoral there.

Easy:

Sit on my balcony with:
- an SKS
- an 8mm mauser
- a 7.62 mosin nagant
- a .22 ruger just in case I run out
- Probably would make some pipe bombs, maybe around 20 or so
- 5 propane or kerosene tanks to throw out in a crowd of zombies and shoot
- A SMG if I can get a hold of it.
- A .45 pistol
- Maybe an assault rifle if I can get hold of it.
- An army ranger knife
- A ninja star
- A hunting knife

Come get some fiends!

BTW: I have everything listed, except for the smg, assault rifle and pipe bombs. Course, the guns are my fathers, since I'm only a yuning


So what you're saying, in the midst of all your teenager bluster, is that your total armoury amounts to three pointy lumps of iron and a couple of fuel cannisters?

It may have escaped your notice, but you need silver to hurt a werewolf.

So what you're saying, in the midst of all your teenager bluster, is that your total armoury amounts to three pointy lumps of iron and a couple of fuel cannisters?

It may have escaped your notice, but you need silver to hurt a werewolf.
You can still kill a werewolf without silver, but silver is deadly and instantaneously poisonous to them.

You cowards, fight for the human race! Get yourself some weapons from all the gun nuts out there and do some killing of these unholy creatures! Some dead vamps, werewolves and zombies are coming soon!!

If anyone knows any good zombie-themed games I can get for free off the web, please post them. I need zombie killing action.

If anyone knows any good zombie-themed games I can get for free off the web, please post them. I need zombie killing action.

www.urbandead.com

You can't actually get it off the web, but it's good fun. More entertaining playing as a zed though.

Sorry folks, in the case of a zombie, werewolf, and vampire outbreak, the zombies win hands down.

Vamps need humans for food.
Lots of humans.

With a zombie outbreak, humans are new recruits, once bitten.
This means the zombies multiply at incredible numbers, making it impossible to keep a herd of humans.
Also, if the dead automatically come back as zombies, that means anyone who dies, comes back as an enemy.

The zombies would quickly outnumber the werewolves, and the vampires would starve.

Sorry folks, in the case of a zombie, werewolf, and vampire outbreak, the zombies win hands down.

Vamps need humans for food.
Lots of humans.

With a zombie outbreak, humans are new recruits, once bitten.
This means the zombies multiply at incredible numbers, making it impossible to keep a herd of humans.
Also, if the dead automatically come back as zombies, that means anyone who dies, comes back as an enemy.

The zombies would quickly outnumber the werewolves, and the vampires would starve.

Until I start crushing them in my M1A2 Abrams. Come on, THINK! Humans win the zombie scenario. Vampires live behind the scenes. Not many hear about them. Werewolves are really the same way.

Well, Werewolves would be the most similar to humans, but also the most likely to lose. Werewolves would be the most desirable victor from a human perspective. They would possibly even be fighting with the humans. Vampires are by far the most powerful, but simultaneously posess the greatest weaknesses of the lot. Zombies are the least desirable, and weakest, yet also most likely to win the war. So it is best to be vampire as an individual, but it is best to be in the zombie army for victory.

So I would probably side with the vampires, convince one of them to turn me into a vampire, the defect to the zombie side, and help them destroy the vampires. That would leave only the werewolves and the zombies left (and humans). Humans and werewolves united would have a chance at victory if they could unite and approach the zombie attack in an extremely organised manner, and quarantine off sections of the world as zombie territory. Eventually, with an organised approach, zombies would be eradicated. Then, I would encourage a witch-hunt of remaining were-wolves, and try to wipe them out. Noting that nights of the full moon are in fact the time when they are at their weakest, thanks to their lowered self-control, and inability to hide their nature. Finally, when the werewolves are largely wiped out, I would convert all of the leadres of the world into my own vampire spawn, and as such they would have to obey me, then I would order them to convert the power structures of the world into vampires until all of the big businesses and governments were vampire controlled. This would create a rigid vampire spawn/vampire master hierachy at which I would be at the top of. The remaining human population would be converted, killed, and enslaved. Werewolves lose, Vampires lose, Zombies lose, GreaterPacificNatios wins.

werewolves are the coolest of the three.

I think that it would be much, much more interesting to make the zombies as powerful as possible. Make it so that every human that dies gets back up(Romero's Land otd), every human bitten dies, and gets back up(Snyder's Dawn otd), and give them the super speed from Snyders Dawn.;)

Also, humans have a thing called fear. :eek: If someone you knew died and started running after you faster than humanly possible, unless you are of the best military trained groups:cool: , you would probally miss a head shot, which are the only zombie ending shots..

I would try to get my wits together:headbang: , given that I survive this hellish nighmare's onset, and fight. :gundge: :mp5: :sniper:

psh, I'm already a sex slave.:fluffle:

Easy:

Sit on my balcony with:
- an SKS
- an 8mm mauser
- a 7.62 mosin nagant
- a .22 ruger just in case I run out
- Probably would make some pipe bombs, maybe around 20 or so
- 5 propane or kerosene tanks to throw out in a crowd of zombies and shoot
- A SMG if I can get a hold of it.
- A .45 pistol
- Maybe an assault rifle if I can get hold of it.
- An army ranger knife
- A ninja star
- A hunting knife

Come get some fiends!

BTW: I have everything listed, except for the smg, assault rifle and pipe bombs. Course, the guns are my fathers, since I'm only a yuning


Aha! We have found the Mad-Gun-Shop-Owner!

Until I start crushing them in my M1A2 Abrams. Come on, THINK! Humans win the zombie scenario. Vampires live behind the scenes. Not many hear about them. Werewolves are really the same way.


Sorry.

Zombies make more zombies.
Thus, you are a potential zombie.

In case of infestation, complete and total isolation is the only way to win.

Sheer numbers wins everytime, especially when bullets dont do much to your enemy.

Sorry folks, in the case of a zombie, werewolf, and vampire outbreak, the zombies win hands down.

Vamps need humans for food.
Lots of humans.

With a zombie outbreak, humans are new recruits, once bitten.
This means the zombies multiply at incredible numbers, making it impossible to keep a herd of humans.
Also, if the dead automatically come back as zombies, that means anyone who dies, comes back as an enemy.

The zombies would quickly outnumber the werewolves, and the vampires would starve.

But the same logic applies to vamps. In most vamp films, once a human is bitten he becomes a vampire. Day 1 - 1 vampire. Day 2 - 2 vamps, Day 3 - 4 vamps ... by Day 45 everyone on the planet twice over with a bit to spare is a vampire. But werewolf bites are contagious too (e.g. American Werewolf in London) so the same maths applies to zombies, werewolves and vampires.

So the zombies have no advantage over werewolves or vampires but vampires and werewolves have many advantages over zombies - mostly speed and intelligence. Humans have major advantage of organisation, weaponry, prepared defensive positions and several thousand years of combat experience. It would be a tough one to predict who would win but it is easy to forecast who would lose. It's the zombies for sure.

I'd put my bet on Humans winning, suppressing the werewolves and vampires and eradicating the zombies.

Sorry.

Zombies make more zombies.
Thus, you are a potential zombie.

In case of infestation, complete and total isolation is the only way to win.

Sheer numbers wins everytime, especially when bullets dont do much to your enemy.

The only way to make a human into a zombie is to bite him. If the human is in an Abrams battle tank then he ain't gonna get bitten.

One small four-man tank-team would do enormous amounts of damage to a zombie horde without suffering any loss themselves.

Plus, you neglect to take into account the zombies greatest weakness ...

It's summer. there are a load of stenches pottering about. All that dead, rotting meat. What does that attract? Flies. What do flies and lots of rotten meat result in?

Maggots. Lots and lots of maggots.

The zombie horde would literally be eaten within a few days.

The only way to make a human into a zombie is to bite him. If the human is in an Abrams battle tank then he ain't gonna get bitten.

Tanks require fuel, and ammunition, and maintenance.
Once a zombie outbreak occurs, regular supplies become non-existant.
Thus, any fuel and ammo, is limited, and will run out soon.
Wiping out a thousand zombies is one thing...several thousand, or hundreds of thousands..thats another.

One small four-man tank-team would do enormous amounts of damage to a zombie horde without suffering any loss themselves.

One zombie horde...not several hordes.

Plus, you neglect to take into account the zombies greatest weakness ...

Zombie outbreaks traditionally occur within 24 hours, afterwich most cities would be over run.
A week usually equals the entire country.

Also as far as the biting goes, it isnt always simply biting by another zombie that makes one a zombie.
Usually ..the dead just get out of thier graves and start biting other zombies, who bite more....etc.
THUS....*GASP for breath*.....anyone who dies for any reason, may get back up as a zombie.

So..tanks are good for the short term..but wont keep you alive indefinately.

Tanks require fuel, and ammunition, and maintenance. Once a zombie outbreak occurs, regular supplies become non-existant. Thus, any fuel and ammo, is limited, and will run out soon.
Wiping out a thousand zombies is one thing...several thousand, or hundreds of thousands..thats another. One zombie horde...not several hordes.
Zombie outbreaks traditionally occur within 24 hours, afterwich most cities would be over run. A week usually equals the entire country. Also as far as the biting goes, it isnt always simply biting by another zombie that makes one a zombie. Usually ..the dead just get out of thier graves and start biting other zombies, who bite more....etc. THUS....*GASP for breath*.....anyone who dies for any reason, may get back up as a zombie. So..tanks are good for the short term..but wont keep you alive indefinately.

I'm just not convinced by this. If there was a zombie insurrection I'm sure the authorities would start dealing with it in a very firm manner. And, given that the global supply chain has existed through numerous wars (e.g. ww1 and 2) - times at which it was deliberately targeted by vicious, intelligent and heavily armed opponents - I doubt zombies (dim, by definition, unarmed, by definition, slooooooow, by definition) could cause the global supply chain to fall over. For example, how does a zombie attack impede the flow of oil aransported at sea via oil tankers? I imagine the authorities would put the troops out around key infastructure assets like refineries etc.

And then, even if a major city like, say Liverpool, UK, became over-run the authorities could flatten it and completely eradicate it from the face of the earth without ever setting food in the city. Missiles, anyone?

And if all the dead did get up and start attacking - how many of those would be viable zombies? Someone who died about 20 years ago wouldn't make much of a zombie.

And you still haven't addressed point about zombie degradation - maggots, rat attacks, household pets turned loose in the conflict would start eating them etc

Battle tactics - you can wipe out hordes of zombies at very low cost - use fire. Zombies are slow, don't feel any pain and wouldn't run around even if set-alight.

The citizenry could Molotov cocktail them quite easily. Military organisations would open fire with flamethrowers.

As for people dieing and coming back as zombies - that's easily dealt with. Police, military, paramedics etc would all have to carry a big spike, maybe a powered spike of some kind. Anywho, when someone dies, put the spike-gun to the dead man's temple, press a button and the brain is destroyed. No zombie. Pass a law requiring incineration and job's a good-un.

It would make society a bit awkward but it could be adjusted.

Zombie armies do not have a chance against modern Humans.

I'd be on the zombie side. And by that I mean I'd be a zombie. Well, my body would be. Meanwhile, I'll have downloaded by mind into a computer before I died and would be building myself up an army of machines.

Kill myself. As I probably wouldn't be able to access any weaponry to defeat any of the above of the aforementioned supernatural beings.

Hmmm, I'd go with the stand alone, but if forced to I'd throw my lot in with the wolves, either that or open up a store for the latter two factions.
(Yeah we got A Positive, Yes we have cows and Pigs in the back. You got any ammo to trade?)

If anyone knows any good zombie-themed games I can get for free off the web, please post them. I need zombie killing action.
If you have an old copy of Half-life 1 lying around go and download They Hunger 1,2,and 3.. 55 Levels of Zombie\Frankenstien\Skeleton\Undead Police action.
And it's free!

Technically, Vampires have a weakness. They MUST not killl all the werewolves or humans, lest they starve. They may pick and choose to stay alive, but end the end they would not exterminate ALL humans or werewolves(that turn back into humans.

So vampires would enslave Humans and werewolves, and kill off all the unappetizing zombies (who most likely are full of DRY blood)

I'd go with werewolves. Zombies would only last as long it would take for the other groups to start shooting them in the head (thus keeping them down permanently). Plus zombies don't get sentience (or if they do, they don't do much with it). Vampires are fully aware of things, but only get to exist during the night, and aren't fully humans. Werewolves either get to choose their transformation or only have to go through a transformation on a full moon, and at all other times are humans. In essence, humans with an extra advantage of being able to kick the shit out of whatever they come across when they're transformed.

As far as tactics go, zombies would just shamble around and be shot down easily. Vampires would have to deal with three things - they're only able to work at night, and they have an aversion to both garlic and the cross. So anyone wanting to beat the vampires would just have to sit in a church with a bunch of garlic stored up at night, then at day they could rush the known locations of sleeping vampires and stake them. Werewolves just have to deal with silver, but when they look so much like humans when they aren't transformed, it would be difficult to make sure you're hitting the right people - it would take a lot of silver to kill an army of werewolves when humans are also nearby.

Another issue. Since werewolves are sentient and don't have the constant blood/brain-lust of vampires and zombies (and when they do get a taste for the flesh, can either be chained up, sent off to fight, or simply put down) what's to say that a large amount of humans wouldn't help them? Sure, not all humans would help, many would run or fight in fear, but I can imagine some humans would willingly help one group if it meant destroying the others and not being destroyed themselves, especially if this group is the most "human" of the three.

And when it's all over, it's simply a matter of finding enough wolfsbane to change back whoever wants to be changed back. Vampires and zombies don't have the luxury of being fully returned to humanity.

Also, humans have a thing called fear. :eek: If someone you knew died and started running after you faster than humanly possible, unless you are of the best military trained groups:cool: , you would probally miss a head shot, which are the only zombie ending shots..
Psh. They aren't the same person anymore. If it was the zombie of Liz, it wouldn't be Liz anymore, simply a corpse without a soul. So I would feel no qualms about taking a .44 special to her head. Also, You'd be suprised how good of a shot I am. My step-dad's taught me everything he learned in boot-camp.

Werewolves obviously, they are only monsters one night out of the month, the rest of the time they are just regular people, with regular souls and everything. I'll just make sure that I am in my hypothetical safe room during the full moon.

Hmmm, I'd go with the stand alone, but if forced to I'd throw my lot in with the wolves, either that or open up a store for the latter two factions.
(Yeah we got A Positive, Yes we have cows and Pigs in the back. You got any ammo to trade?)


If you have an old copy of Half-life 1 lying around go and download They Hunger 1,2,and 3.. 55 Levels of Zombie\Frankenstien\Skeleton\Undead Police action.
And it's free!
Unfortuanetly, I only have Half-life 1 for the PS2. If you would be willing to possibly send over Half-life in an e-mail to zypher_54@yahoo.com , I would be very thankful. If you have to send it over in seperate parts, which I implore you to only do as a last resort, I will be able to put them together in one file.

"The Zombie scenario thread had me thinking...."

That can be a very dangerous activity for you. I suggest you take up cross-stitch instead! :D

I would go with the werewolves, who are fully human 90% of the time.

Plus, when it comes to monsters, humans are the scariest anyway.

Though werewolves seem the most logical choice, I, must...not betray...my people! *votes undead*

Plus, when it comes to monsters, humans are the scariest anyway.

HOMO SAPIENS UBER ALLES!

damn forgot all about this thread, is was a slow poster at the time i was last on.....

I like to be on the winning side so Vampires.

Even if the early battles went poorly and we all got stakes in the chest, once the sun grows and burns the stakes out we would arise again. Even when the sun blows up we win. Space Vampires!

Since all male vampires are gay, or at least bisexual and I'm straight, and zombies are stupid I'd choose the werewolf side. I can't be killed without silver bullets, I don't need to stay indoors during the day, and my vocabulary isn't limited to uuuuugh braaaaains. Sounds like the best possible deal.

I like to be on the winning side so Vampires.

Even if the early battles went poorly and we all got stakes in the chest, once the sun grows and burns the stakes out we would arise again. Even when the sun blows up we win. Space Vampires!
The sun doesn't burn stakes, it burns vampires. What movies have you been watching?

The sun doesn't burn stakes, it burns vampires. What movies have you been watching?


maybe some of the hammer films, or jesus christ vampire hunter

maybe some of the hammer films, or jesus christ vampire hunter
Every Hammer film I've seen showed the sun to be lethal to vampires. And I've seen alot of Hammer studio's films, including such cheese as Captain Kronos, Vampire Hunter.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071276/

Every Hammer film I've seen showed the sun to be lethal to vampires. And I've seen alot of Hammer studio's films, including such cheese as Captain Kronos, Vampire Hunter.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071276/


wow i thought i was the only one who sat through captain kronos, i dont feel like such a dork now. :)

i've seen most of the hammer films as well, and you're right now that i've thouhgt about it it was always sunlight, or the good old peter cushing driving the steak through the heart.

wow i thought i was the only one who sat through captain kronos, i dont feel like such a dork now. :)

i've seen most of the hammer films as well, and you're right now that i've thouhgt about it it was always sunlight, or the good old peter cushing driving the steak through the heart.
Hey, they were classics. They were like fine, aged cheese.

The sun doesn't burn stakes, it burns vampires. What movies have you been watching?


These are REAL vampires not sissy lala MOVIE vampires

Hey, they were classics. They were like fine, aged cheese.


im not knocking hammer and his great work, i just dont know too many who've seen as many hammer films as i.


peter cushing was and still is the best van helsing. period.
and same with christopher lee as dracula.

These are REAL vampires not sissy lala MOVIE vampires


if you read the first post, i said you can use any style of folklore. which includes movies

I'm going to go werewolves, because they perfectly combine group comraderie and lawless carnage.
Vampires are always stabbing each other in the back, and can't go to the store without developing some sort of guilt/sexual complex that nobody else cares about. Meanwhile, you have to put up with stupidly elaborate group dynamics, lots of angst, and the stupidest names this side of being a celebrity's child.
Oh, and you have to dress in either tight leather or 17th century european frills, and are limited to a color scheme of: black, red, dark red, darker red, or blood red. Ugh.
Alternately, you become a human running around fighting vampires, and how does this always end? Not well. When confronted with Uncle Vlad, humans develop all sorts of emotional baggage, obsessions with the vampires, general insanity, and have to keep stripping each other down to search for fang marks, which is all well and good if you're in a group of supermodels, but knowing my luck, I'd be holed up in a Retirement Home.

Zombies have no sense of dress, no manners, no conversation skills, and are generally boring and slow. Alternately, they're really fast zombies who can pilot helicopters, in which case I'd be beaten to death by zombie-purists for raping the mythos.
As a human in a zombie-world, I'd be forced to be a complete asshole/moron who never learns from his mistakes. When exposed to zombies, humans develop a complete inability to think tactically, become insanely paranoid, and are incapable of not shooting each other in the face over stupid things. There is also always some member of the group who tries to keep a zombie safe (for whatever reason) and ruins everything for everyone.

Werewolves, on the other hand have fairly straight forward power structures (biggest is boss), no dress code (and, often, no dress), and, most importantly, bring people together.
When was the last time you saw a group of werewolves with complicated social dynamics? It doesn't happen, they haven't got the patience for it because they're too busy tearing shit to pieces. There isn't nearly as much angst either, how many people become werewolves because they had nothing left to live for?

I like this topic. Undead,vampires and werewolves are the ultimate combination.

Do any of you silly internet people now if there's a movie or book where the three are combined?

I have picked werewolf, because many of them have cool sideburns.

I'd rather be a super sexy ninja pirate zombie clown bird with three arms and both sex organs.