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So when do you think the mudslinging will reach its peak? When will the longest knives be drawn? Will it ever reach the point of guns? Democrats and Republicans don't seem willing to listen to each other. Ignorance leads to violence.

So when do you think the mudslinging will reach its peak? When will the longest knives be drawn? Will it ever reach the point of guns? Democrats and Republicans don't seem willing to listen to each other. Ignorance leads to violence.

The election of 2960 when the election will be decided by a battle royal between the two candidates.

And why do you care?

2008 will be, as that will be the last election.

The election of 2012 will be postponed by the increasingly authoritarian government in order to deal with the impending disaster that will create the New World Order by the end of that year. After 2012 democracy will be abolished and the US will decend into a feudal landscape of nuclear-armed warloads.

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2004 was. Before 2008 the United States will be destroyed by nuclear weapons from all over the world retaliating on behalf of Iran, which will be destroyed by American warheads.

The election of 2960 when the election will be decided by a battle royal between the two candidates.

And why do you care?
So I know when to have the big bomb ready for, of course!

No, I just saw Myrmodisina's thread and the Nazz's thread. Those guys are both NS party hacks, and their mindless bashing just annoyed me so I made this thread.

The short answer is: the next election will always be the dirtiest in the minds of those deeply involved. And Francis Street--if you want to talk about mindless bashers, there are far worse examples than me and Myrmidonisia (and you could at least take the time to make sure you spell his name correctly).

All Presidential elections are dirty.

The last one willl be dirtiest.

The short answer is: the next election will always be the dirtiest in the minds of those deeply involved. And Francis Street--if you want to talk about mindless bashers, there are far worse examples than me and Myrmidonisia (and you could at least take the time to make sure you spell his name correctly).
Of course, how could I forget Domici and Corneliu.

And leave me alone, Myrowhatever's name is impossible to remember.

All Presidential elections are dirty.
Some are dirtier than others. (http://cires.colorado.edu/~bilham/IndonesiAndaman2004_files/mud-vol-dfo7.jpg)

Mrs. Clinton vs ? :confused: :rolleyes: :p

a presidential mud wrestling contest between Hillary Clinton & Condoleeza Rice. people text in their votes while they wrestle.

I warn you it will not be for the faint of heart.

hillary will show no mercy

http://www.slick.com/wildpics/7hillry.jpg

I thought 1828 was a pretty dirty election, IMHO

I thought 1828 was a pretty dirty election, IMHO

try the election of 1800 or 1796.

2000

If the Democrats ever get balls, someone will create a new Goldwater Nuke-type ad that involves repetetive images of Shrub in "action" and the resulting crap which will no doubt be apparent to anyone below a certain income bracket within the next 12 years.

2008. Because either way you look, everyone will get screwed.

Hillary vs. Condi

I dread the thought.

Actually since 1980 each time it gets worse. The Reps have won with dirty tricks. Then ruled by 51% rather than the traditional compromise to get bipartison legislation. This has caused bitterness that will take a generation to solve if we start now.

The Rove idea of attacking the strength of the opposition has brought this to a head. Call a war hero a coward and call a coward a war hero. How much worse can it get? I hate to think but I dread the "Pandora's Box" has been opened by Rove and won't be closed.

2036, buy then the process will have decended into such farce that it will be live action mud wrestling and shit throwing which decides the winner.

Hillary vs. Condi

I dread the thought.

Actually since 1980 each time it gets worse. The Reps have won with dirty tricks. Then ruled by 51% rather than the traditional compromise to get bipartison legislation. This has caused bitterness that will take a generation to solve if we start now.

The Rove idea of attacking the strength of the opposition has brought this to a head. Call a war hero a coward and call a coward a war hero. How much worse can it get? I hate to think but I dread the "Pandora's Box" has been opened by Rove and won't be closed.

What about Reagan? Everyone loved Reagan; his elections were smooth.

Nothing will be nastier than watching the republicans cling to the life raft...

Here is my thesis on the subject:

7/24/2005 originally posted here nearly a year ago:
http://goodlawd.blogspot.com/

State of the Union Unaddressed

If they meant to do it, the echelon of the Republican Party have pulled off a masterful stunt. It is much harder for an isolated candidate to lie, cheat and steal his way into power, but as momma always advised, “There is safety in numbers.” With the unspoken vow taken to cover up, lie, and generally wag the dog for each other, the Republican party has played Pied Piper to the uneducated, superstitious and rigid thinking of the underclass all the way to the ballot box and now, done with them, have cast them aside like so many cake-eating French peasants.

The Republican Party’s voter base (“The Base” as G.W. dubbed them) sits stupefied and in denial of recent developments of the Karl Rove treason case and the growing movement to impeach G.W. which points to numerous instances of perjury, personal gain agendas and misleading the American people. As Republican party elitists have their own lewinski-esque sexual affairs dragged into public, the drumbeat of dissidence beats ever louder. There is a slow turning, like a great herd of buffalo, of Republican voters to the east, listening to the building roar as it begins to penetrate their thickened skulls. The message is, “You have been made a fool.”, and they are not liking it. One thing that is not well tolerated by the uneducated, superstitious and rigid minded (for whom the consideration of endless possibilities is deemed a wasted effort), is to be made a fool.

A Likely Scenario Without Vegas Odds Established:

After they kill the messenger (which has already begun), they will storm the Bastille and heads will begin to roll in huge numbers as they go about cleaning what they believed was their house – The White House. Those politicians that survive the attack will either be in prison or in another line of work. A handful will die by their own hand or of mysterious causes rather than face prosecution. Thereafter will be a period of silence, drink and introspection. There often is after a good mob lynching.

A generation will pass while the remnants of the Republican Base lick their wounds, justify their actions, and re-write history. During that period of quiet, The Left will be growing. Silently, many Republicans will change their party affiliation to Democrat. They won’t much talk about it, but they are the ones who are determined to not be fooled a third time. Minor parties, such as the Libertarians, will rise to the opportunity and gain in numbers. Many will wander away and not return to the polls for years, having lost hope in the process completely. And many more will simply go to their graves sad and disillusioned. The Old World Order of empire-building, corporate baron pirates, wars and lies is passing away with them and they have never gotten their piece of the pie that they so believed in. They have been sold a bottle of snake oil and made a fool

When the sun comes up, this will be a new country. Strength through education, compassion and a more liberal attitude of careful examination before judgment will lead the way. The Democratic party will recognize the humiliation of the Republican-cum-Democrat, and salve their wounds with balms of Empathy and they will be revived.

In these post-Bush days, might will no longer make right. Bullies will no longer be tolerated in any way shape or form. Wife beaters, child abusers and control freaks are headed for further social isolation as their wives, children and employees walk away from them or have them jailed. We will have taken our freedom to be gentle back and are no longer afraid. A strong defense will not include first strike missions, library spies or civilian-soldiers marching to the front line. The side-dish issues of sex, drugs, and rock & roll (to now include video games) will be served with less fear and propaganda and more truth and hard studies. The religious right will crawl back under the porch with its nice bone of salvation and stop barking at everything that walks by.

The media will return to a sweeter, more educational, style as more and more people “Just Say No” to sensationalism, fear-mongering and pulp-fiction that has characterized the media over the last 30 years. Books make a comeback as the surge toward a liberal arts education for all gains momentum. The borders will return to a more permeable state with many folks crossing borders to wed. The war on drugs will be given an Irish wake and laid on its funeral pyre at Burning Man, while crack-heads and junkies are allowed to obtain their drug by prescription and receive free drug rehabilitation and counseling services. The mafia will be looking for work as the death of prohibition leaves them jobless. Their own loved ones will be the most relieved of all to see them leave the drug trade. We will embrace our gay and lesbian neighbors, invite Muslims, Jews and Pagans to the same dinner, and take beautiful gifts to inter-racial weddings. We will sit down together and form bonds of trust, love, compassion and peace. And no one will die from it.

As people come to realize that mistrust makes one even more vulnerable than trust, that fear makes one a slave to those who feed on that fear, and that war cannot happen unless division occurs and is emphasized, The New World sense of strong defense will be held up by a strong national character of honesty, openness, inclusion and compassion. The religious fanatics will be calmed as their perceived adversaries lose interest in the battle and extend the welcome mat to them. Manners make a big comeback as folks work to avoid divisive words and actions. It will no longer be important to be right all the time, but rather to listen and hear. Differences will be embraced and welcomed, as individuality is the new beauty. No one’s opinions or beliefs will get them ostracized or relegated to a sub-class. Being interesting, hard-working, honest and fit become the social lift people strive for instead of materialism, excess and celebrity.

Again, finally, United We will Stand albeit no longer at on the World’s pedestal. The Have’s will begin to sit peacefully at the table with the Have-nots in a new spirit of sharing information and education as the greed of the last century has finally brought about the self-destruction of the huge corporate giant and the stock market rebuilds itself on the basics of small business and innovation. American Craftsmanship will experience a renaissance as people begin to appreciate quality over quantity. Huge box stores will show a decline as used goods stores pop up all over the nation in astonishing numbers. The compact car will be back with a vengeance. Disposal of large consumer items will be an embarrassing thing to be done under the cover of darkness as people move towards the repair and reuse mentality that will become almost romanticized much like that of the Great Depression. Consumerism will be out. Frugalism will be in as our economy declines back to a sustainable level with us adjusting to our growing distaste for raping the planet and child labor.

Trust worthy governments will begin to lead the world while those who have lied and cheated in the face of the world community will be forced into voiceless positions. Unfortunately, that will include America. It will be the much-needed rest for Americans from the frenzied global jockeying of the turn of the century. It will be a time to rest, rebuild, rethink, and raise a generation of children with a new global consciousness.
Yes, if they meant to do it, the echelon of the Republican Party have pulled off a masterful stunt: The have birthed the New World Order.

The worst presidential elections were more 1800-1836 than 2000-2036...the kinds of things they did back then make even the worst of today's smear campaigns look tame. Even the mainstream news media was launching campaigns of political mudslinging...not in opinion articles, but in ones that were supposed to present factual news.

I have a feeling that the Internet will become a political Vietnam, with each candidate trying to gain ground but nevertheless fighting a quagmire of political activism, discussion, and scrutiny from their opponents...however, that's highly desirable because politicians can no longer hide their gaffes, past mistakes, or statments and news about them travels much faster.

The New York gubernatorial race of 1804 (against the Cinton political machine's smear campaign) indirectly led to the duel to the death between Hamilton and Burr. I know it's not presidential but there are presidential ties.

I agree that the 1800s suffered the worst elections that we will hopefully ever see.

Nothing will be nastier than watching the republicans cling to the life raft...<snip>


Proudly hands U.M. the coveted Golden Diatribe trophy

2020. I'll be running then. ;)

2020. I'll be running then. ;)

Who will be your running mate?

I don't care, I vote for Jesus. He's been my write in for the past 2 elections. Sure, he hasn't returned yet to save us from Armageddon, but I'm sure he will if he finds out he's become president! :p

The worst presidential elections were more 1800-1836 than 2000-2036...the kinds of things they did back then make even the worst of today's smear campaigns look tame. Even the mainstream news media was launching campaigns of political mudslinging...not in opinion articles, but in ones that were supposed to present factual news.

I guess someone should throw in the old saw about "those who forget history...", because everyone seems to forget how bad things have been. The current elections, scandals, and politicians are always the "worst ever" in the eyes of too many, especially here.

What about Reagan? Everyone loved Reagan; his elections were smooth.
Obviously not old enough to remember what he did to Carter. Then again that was mild compared to what GW Rove did to Kerry.

Obviously not old enough to remember what he did to Carter. Then again that was mild compared to what GW Rove did to Kerry.

Carter brought it upon himself. That was an election landslide.

Carter brought it upon himself. That was an election landslide.

That's right Corny, we forgot! Everyone knew Carter told the Iranians to wait until he left office and Reagan stepped in to let the hostages go!

Gauthier, use my proper name which is Corneliu. This is your last warning and if you continue to believe that then your more brainwashed than I thought.

That's right Corny, we forgot! Everyone knew Carter told the Iranians to wait until he left office and Reagan stepped in to let the hostages go!

I bet the Iranians wanted the hostages released when Reagan became president. Why? Because they figured Reagan would mean serious business in getting the hostages back home. Carter was a fucking joke.

I bet the Iranians wanted the hostages released when Reagan became president. Why? Because they figured Reagan would mean serious business in getting the hostages back home. Carter was a fucking joke.

And I'm sure nothing meant business like saying "Let them go and we'll give you lots of missiles. And I don't mean launching them at you either!"

Gauthier, use my proper name which is Corneliu. This is your last warning and if you continue to believe that then your more brainwashed than I thought.
Saved by semantics again, Corny! Well done!

2008 will be, because it will be one of the most cruical elections for the democrats in history. Think about it. If the democrats LOSE in 08, the party is pretty much history. If they can't win after what Bush has been doing, they can't win anymore ever. Now on the flip side, Republicans are going to know this and will be trying their best to wipe the democrats off the map entirley. Plus it's about the first time since the 1920s that it's ever been an open game, no set repbulican or democratic candidate.

I think the 08 election is gonna get like a whole chapter in the history books.

We have had our share of one party politics in the past. We do not need a return to it.

I think a better question would be, can you think of an American presidential election that wasn't dirty?

I think a better question would be, can you think of an American presidential election that wasn't dirty?

Well maybe the 1st election but I'm not willing to lay bets on that.