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I'm pretty into primitive hand wepons that aren't well known. My favorites include the Nang-Sun from Korea. It's a 15 foot long spear with six to eight curved blades along the sides. Anyone know a cool hand wepon? (no modern-style wepons please<explosive and such>)

Anyone know a cool hand wepon? (no modern-style wepons please<explosive and such>)

What exactly is so cool about an instrument designed to cause irreparable and massive bodily trauma?

What exactly is so cool about an instrument designed to cause irreparable and massive bodily trauma?

What isn't?

http://www.womens-shoes-guru.com/images/highheelshoepainting.jpg

You should see one of those in the hands of a pissed queen. They will fuck you up.

I read the title as "erotic hand weapons."

Otherwise, I wouldn't have been interested.

I read the title as "erotic hand weapons."

Otherwise, I wouldn't have been interested.
I'm not sure wether to think "Cool" or "Ow"...

http://www.womens-shoes-guru.com/images/highheelshoepainting.jpg

You should see one of those in the hands of a pissed queen. They will fuck you up.
How does one balance on those? :confused: I've heard of women fighting in heels, but that is a whole new level.

What isn't?

Well, I'd just made a post* about two minutes before this thread appeared wherein I was lamenting how male teenagers think hand weapons are cool, and then here we go - perfect example.

If it weren't so darned predictable it would be ironic.

* http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11021143&postcount=22

How does one balance on those? :confused: I've heard of women fighting in heels, but that is a whole new level.

Well, they're for a whole new breed of woman, girl.

Well, it all depends.

This Nang-Sun would be best in the hands of an unexperienced soldier, but a kama [with a chain, and no I can't remember what chained kamas are called] would be better in the hands of a professional.

So, while the nang-sun would be best for outfitting a peasant militia [assuming any of them had the strength to lift the damn thing], a professional military troop/mercenary battalion would be able to decimate them with a chained kama.

Also, though, there is the matter of speed. A kama is a miniaturized version of a straight-handled scythe, and even with a chain attacked to the hilt is still an incredibly quick weapon.

The kama blade can deal with and easily kill any close-ranged opponents, while the chain can disarm and kill [chains were spiked or weighted, imagine a 15-pound weight being swung into your head] any opponents farther away. However, the chains themselves are powerful weapons- Most maces were around 15 pounds or less, and the same with chain weights. But there is a discrepancy- chain weights can be swung with much greater force. Also, some kamas forsake weights in favor of spiked balls. The difference is really one of personal preference, since what difference is there between caving in the head of a person standing seven feet away and putting large holes in it. Still, of course, a weighted chain was preferred by stronger people, as weights could fatally dent armor while spikes [sometimes] would bounce off, since a star pattern can't guarantee impact.

Just for history, the kama originated in Japan.

Well, I'd just made a post* about two minutes before this thread appeared wherein I was lamenting how male teenagers think hand weapons are cool, and then here we go - perfect example.
Unethical =/= uncool.

Besides, weapon collectors are hardly equivalent to kitchen-knife-carrying chavs.

http://www.womens-shoes-guru.com/images/highheelshoepainting.jpg

You should see one of those in the hands of a pissed queen. They will fuck you up.

Ah...Ah! Oh dear CHRIST! THAT would fucking KILL!

*breathes into bag*

Anyway, I'm a fan of the Trench Spike (http://www.stahlhelms.com/Trench1.jpg), which is essentially brass knuckles topped with a sharpened steel spike.

And then...GUNBLADE (http://www.oddblogbgod.com/gunblade.jpg)!!! :D

Unethical =/= uncool.

So could you give me a few examples of things you consider unethical but cool?

So could you give me a few examples of things you consider unethical but cool?

Exotic hand weapons.

I read the title as "erotic hand weapons."

Otherwise, I wouldn't have been interested.
My electric dildo will defeat whatever weapon you produce.

Exotic hand weapons.

So you consider exotic hand weapons to be unethical?

So could you give me a few examples of things you consider unethical but cool?
I never said I considered them unethical. Regardless, cool is subjective and its perfectly possible for someone's ideas of ethics to conflict with what they consider cool.
Primarily I said this is because ethics are decided analytically, through conscious thought, whereas "cool" is more of a feeling.
Of course, someone could base their ethics on feelings, but that would only be one case, not the general case.

I never said I considered them unethical.

Nor did I, it was you that raised the matter of ethics.

Nor did I, it was you that raised the matter of ethics.
Yes, in a general context. And now I've explained that a person's chosen set of ethics can conflict with their feelings of what's cool.

The Zweihander, of course.

Although I prefer good old pair of Nunchaku myself. Kuruki, Machete, and Urumi get honerable mentions.

The Shikomizue takes the cake, though.

British 1796 pattern light cavalry sabre. Not very exotic, but deadly nonetheless.

British 1796 pattern light cavalry sabre. Not very exotic, but deadly nonetheless.

Woah, that's just creepy. I think you and I know each other in some mirror universe, because I love the 1796 Pattern British Light Cavalry Sabre. :)

Yo-yos combine being an ancient weapon AND being able to walk the dog.

Well, I'd just made a post* about two minutes before this thread appeared wherein I was lamenting how male teenagers think hand weapons are cool, and then here we go - perfect example.

If it weren't so darned predictable it would be ironic.

* http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11021143&postcount=22
You think I'd hurt/kill someone? I'm seriously hurt!(no joke intended)

Woah, that's just creepy. I think you and I know each other in some mirror universe, because I love the 1796 Pattern British Light Cavalry Sabre. :)

I'd like to buy one. I always should of been in the cavalry.

i put 'exotic hand weapons' into google images and this is what came up:
http://home.att.net/~Steven.Licata/
utterly ridiculous. i laughed. out loud.

Personally, I like Viking and European weapons, though Asian weapons have a distinctiveness to them that's pretty sweet. XD

Mostly, I'll have to admit that I like bladed weaponry, although there are some pretty sweet handguns out there.

I'd like to buy one. I always should of been in the cavalry.

I've had my eye on this (http://www.swordsofhonor.com/brlicasw.html) for a bit now. I've never purchased this type of thing before, but I don't think $250 American is too steep for a high quality replica.

I've had my eye on this (http://www.swordsofhonor.com/brlicasw.html) for a bit now. I've never purchased this type of thing before, but I don't think $250 American is too steep for a high quality replica.

lol, a weapon used by the US cavalry during the 1812 war... Instrumental in their great success in defending the White House?

:D

A lightsaber! ROFL ! $o fUnn¥!1!1!!! OMG LOL

I've had my eye on this (http://www.swordsofhonor.com/brlicasw.html) for a bit now. I've never purchased this type of thing before, but I don't think $250 American is too steep for a high quality replica.

Looks sweet.

Now, everyone drool over this:

http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/1796lc_1.jpg

lol, a weapon used by the US cavalry during the 1812 war... Instrumental in their great success in defending the White House?

Yes, used by the United States in the War of 1812.

And used by the British Empire in the course of thier conquering one quarter of the Earth.

One has to respect that accomplishment, even if the morals of the deed are questionable.

A double bladed scythe looks pretty cool in my opinion

lol, a weapon used by the US cavalry during the 1812 war... Instrumental in their great success in defending the White House?

:D

Also developed and used by the British, the ones who burned it. ;)

*sighs* Urmm I would say a coloured wine glass. They are fairly exotic and I've seen people hurt with them.

This thread is also not cool. Weapon-fetishism is, in fact, exceptionally lame.

What isn't?

The way they can potentially tear into your flesh, shredding your organs and spraying your blood and guts across the walls, inflicting intense pain and massive, usually lethal, bodily damage?

The way they can potentially tear into your flesh, shredding your organs and spraying your blood and guts across the walls, inflicting intense pain and massive, usually lethal, bodily damage?
Yeah, but they're SO COOL because of it!

I'm training to be in the US Marines so that I can use a triple-bladed chainsaw-thrower to kill them towelheads in style! OOOOORAH!

/satire mode

Also developed and used by the British, the ones who burned it. ;)


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^Wrong end.

That was my point.

Yes, used by the United States in the War of 1812.

And used by the British Empire in the course of thier conquering one quarter of the Earth.

One has to respect that accomplishment, even if the morals of the deed are questionable.

Well, the largest expansion came after 1850 really, hence it would have been the 1853 and 1864 patterns, as well as the awful 1880 series of swords.

Also used by the Prussians/Germans right up until 1916, esp. as a side arm for artiallery units during WW1.

The 1796 LC and the 1908 patterns were the best ever devised for the army, one a pure cutting sword and one pure thrusting. Virtually every other pattern post 1796 was a compromise of cut and thrust, therefore making it less than acceptable on both counts.


As for exotic,

Basket hilt sabre/hanger from mid 18th century.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5766/hermhistcurvbasketoa3vv.jpg

Persian Kilij also from about the same period iirc. The hilt work is amazing.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7360/bayezid13lo.jpg

British Naval Hybrid sabre/cutlass. Cool :D

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6730/britishnavalhybrid0002a5vx.jpg

Beautiful. Graceful. Accurate. Deadly (Out to 650 yards-OUCH!).

Special purpose rifle. Heavily modified M16 intended to extend the range of SOF and still share commonality with the standard issue rifles. Shootings heavier 77grain ammo so it hits harder through the turban than the normal 55 and 62 grain stuff.

http://f5.putfile.com/5/14323002882-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/14323002882.jpg&s=f5)

Another nice sabre, this time with a three bar hilt with a disc attachment in the middle of the bars. Late 18th century (probably 1780's).

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2757/d43418hi.jpg

Schianvona - swords of the body guard of the Venetian Doge mid-16th century

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9664/fourschiavone016eq.jpg


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And then...GUNBLADE (http://www.oddblogbgod.com/gunblade.jpg)!!! :D

Fuck me! They're real! I thought they only existed in the minds of FFVIII players!

Schianvona - swords of the body guard of the Venetian Doge mid-16th century
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The one of the left is just beautiful.

Well, I'd just made a post* about two minutes before this thread appeared wherein I was lamenting how male teenagers think hand weapons are cool, and then here we go - perfect example.

If it weren't so darned predictable it would be ironic.

* http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11021143&postcount=22

Actually its natural for any male human to be interested in that kind of stuff. It's just what we do. I know this is a stereotype: but you women are generally interested in softer things like fashion, beauty, etc. while men are into sports, guns, etc. Dont get me wrong, it's perfectly fine for each gender to cross borders into other interests.

Fuck me! They're real! I thought they only existed in the minds of FFVIII players!
What the hell did you think a rifle with a bayonet was? :p

Me, I like Naginatas, but only because they're the closest I get to a double-bladed staff. All they need is an opposing blade on the other end, and a slightly longer shaft to compensate, and I've got my perfect weapon.

And for those who dislike weapon fetishism or whatever you want to call it: just don't read the thread. Really. There's lots on NationStates. :)

Well, well, well...this is a topic I can sink my teeth into.

I'm a personal fan of Sap defender gloves. http://www.blade-empire.com/Hatch/Defender_Gloves-Steel_Shot-Large.shtml

A cat-o-nine-tails is another good one, but, it's a whip, so it suffers from the problem of having to make almost wild movements to inflict serious damage sometimes. Another personal winner has to be a scimitar, a middle easter curved sword along the line of the sabers, used by europen warriors.

But, if I had the chance, I would sell my soul for Lu Bu's weapon, Sky Scorcher. He was a beast with that thing. A Trident Halberd, if only.

The one of the left is just beautiful.

Yup, Schiavonas are one of my favourite sword types. Frequently the top quillion was folded over and a jewel was place in it.

A big rock. Preferably spikey. And coated in fermented animal dung for bonus septicaemia in the event of broken skin.

A big rock. Preferably spikey. And coated in fermented animal dung for bonus septicaemia in the event of broken skin.

That's just classy ;) :D

That's just classy ;) :D

Hell yeah. Failing that, i'd settle for a large celestial body of some description. If I hit you with one of those, it'd hurt like a bitch.

What exactly is so cool about an instrument designed to cause irreparable and massive bodily trauma?

the fact that it can cause irreparable and massive bodily trauma.

My favorite is the Kubotan. Clean, simple, easy to conceal, and fits in the palm of your hand. Use it to gouge eyes, smash joints, and apply painfull pressure. Perfect.

My favorite is the Kubotan. Clean, simple, easy to conceal, and fits in the palm of your hand. Use it to gouge eyes, smash joints, and apply painfull pressure. Perfect.

Just use a small maglite if you haven't got one of those :D

Hell yeah. Failing that, i'd settle for a large celestial body of some description. If I hit you with one of those, it'd hurt like a bitch.

I'd be impressed to see you throw one of them with your hands though ;)

I'd be impressed to see you throw one of them with your hands though ;)

Good point, my hands are far too awesome to be degraded in such a way. I'll have to find a servant to do it for me, or I could mind-propel it with telekinetic rays of awesomeness. That would rule it out being a hand weapon, no?

Perhaps I could use somebody else's hands as a weapon; that'd be pretty cool. And gross. Can I borrow yours?

I'm pretty sure D&D says katanas are "exotic"-classified. So yeah. There's my vote.

Those sharpened rings the Sikhs throw look like fun

U must all be really cowards to use those weapons, weapons are for weak nerds:headbang:

U must all be really cowards to use those weapons, weapons are for weak nerds:headbang:

Head-banging-on-wall smileys are for weak nerds.

Another personal winner has to be a scimitar, a middle easter curved sword along the line of the sabers, used by europen warriors.

What kind of scimitar though? You've got shamshirs, kilij and saif etc etc. Even tulwars are of the same family. The word 'scimitar' is just a anglecised version of the word 'Shamshir' AFAIK.

Still, they're bloody nice swords...both are pattern welded blades afaik.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2866/iraniancopy14vq.jpg

A very brilliant sword made by a very talented blacksmith (trying to find the name of the guy who made this) as is this next one:

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8804/p5110018121ni.jpg

Made byJ.D. Smith of Massachusetts (http://www.hammersmithknives.com/).