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I'll support it (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0523fjeb,0,2166425.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines).
TALLAHASSEE -- Could Gov. Jeb Bush's future be in football instead of politics?

While U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has publicly flirted with the idea of becoming the next commissioner of the National Football League, Bush has been privately approached to gauge his interest in the job.



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Bush, who spends his Sundays each fall watching pro football, acknowledged Tuesday that the NFL job was broached during a recent meeting with Patrick Rooney Sr., owner of the Palm Beach Kennel Club.

Rooney is the brother of Dan Rooney, who owns the Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers and co-chairs the NFL's search committee looking for a replacement for Commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

"I met with Mr. Rooney and I said I'm doing my job until I'm finished and then I'm going to consider other things. But I'm not going to do anything until I finish," Bush, who leaves office in January, told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Although he has repeatedly said he will not seek the presidency in 2008, Bush has declined to say what he does hope to do other than return to Miami.
In fact, I not only support this move, I'm cheering loudly for it.

Why? Jeb is a great leader.

Great career move unless he totally trashes the NFL like his brother has trashed the US economy.

the cadence of Presidents Bush detractors sqeaking is like crickets and frogs on a hot summer night.

I dont think another Bush has a chance of becoming President. I would have to know a lot more about Jeb before I voted for him either way. As with any candidate.

Great career move unless he totally trashes the NFL like his brother has trashed the US economy.


The US economy is trashed? It hasnt been this strong in a long time.

The US economy is trashed? It hasnt been this strong in a long time.


A 36% jump (http://www.dailynews.com/business/ci_3853808) in foreclosures is NOT the sign of a healthy economy...

And in other news the national debt clock cant even keep up...

Just one more reason for this Pittsburgh girl to love the Rooneys. :D

Great career move unless he totally trashes the NFL like his brother has trashed the US economy.

:rolleyes:

And yet the US Economy is booming.

Also....Jeb Bush isn't going to run for President. He's stated that himself and he is interested in being the Commissioner but wants to finish his term as Governor.

Just one more reason for this Pittsburgh girl to love the Rooneys. :D

With their sack leader going under the knife for his knee.

The US economy is trashed? It hasnt been this strong in a long time.
I've said it in practically every economy thread around here, but it warrants repeating here. Saying the economy is strong or the economy is weak is too simplistic a way to look at it. It's strong for some--notably corporations and investors right now--and shitty for others--notably wage earners and hourly workers.

FUCK SHIT ASS.

GOD DAMNIT....


I forgot he had a brother! X_X I was hoping we wouldn't hear anything from him in any way, by any proxy whatsoever, when the second term ended...

But there's a chance his brother could become president! God help us.

FUCK SHIT ASS.

GOD DAMNIT....


I forgot he had a brother! X_X I was hoping we wouldn't hear anything from him in any way, by any proxy whatsoever, when the second term ended...

But there's a chance his brother could become president! God help us.

He isn't going to run for President. We all know he's not going to run for President.

:rolleyes:

And yet the US Economy is booming. See my comment above.

Also....Jeb Bush isn't going to run for President. He's stated that himself and he is interested in being the Commissioner but wants to finish his term as Governor.
That's what the article notes, but come on--how many people play the "I'm not interested in running for President" and then jump in later? As I said, however, I support his NFL interest wholeheartedly, which is a close as I'll ever get to actually supporting a Bush.

Well the other two Bush men have proved to be total losers. Odds are at least one in the family should have the ability to do something useful with his life in a position that won't hurt anything if the odds prove wrong and all three are losers. I'm all for it. Besides, the job is just a status symbol, can't really do anything to hurt the game anyway.

A 36% jump (http://www.dailynews.com/business/ci_3853808) in foreclosures is NOT the sign of a healthy economy...

And in other news the national debt clock cant even keep up...


According to the US Commerce Dept, economic growth in the US is up to 4.8% in the first quarter of 2006 recovering after the hurricanes.
Due to consumer,business and goverment spending the 1st three months of 2006 produced the largest GDP rate since 2003.
Consumer confidence is up-the highest in four years and the economy is recovering very well from the 2001 recession.

All this DESPITE the constant division and turmoil the news continues to dump on the people that believe it.

It seems most people continue to earn and spend, invest, despite the landslide of bullshit.

Besides, the job is just a status symbol, can't really do anything to hurt the game anyway.
I'm sure ppl in Washingtoon were saying exactly the same thing 6 years ago...

I've said it in practically every economy thread around here, but it warrants repeating here. Saying the economy is strong or the economy is weak is too simplistic a way to look at it. It's strong for some--notably corporations and investors right now--and shitty for others--notably wage earners and hourly workers.


You have a very valid point.

You will have to agree that another poster stating that President Bush has "trashed the US economy" is far from accurate though, right?

I'm an investor and a wage earner. Things are ok for me right now. Of course they could be better. I could invest wiser, I could further my schooling/training and make myself worth a higher pay rate.

Another area of assuming some responsibilty.

People cant shriek that the economy is trashed when the yalso bitch about the road clogged with gas guzzling SUVs. the average price of one of these SUVS is $25,000.00 or more and gas is on average $2.85 a gallon. Yet many people seem to have them.
The average man is investing far more that the average man was 10 years ago.
Inflation is flat right now.

Overall-the economy is good. Will it last? I have no idea-I'm no expert.

Consumer confidence is up-the highest in four years and the economy is recovering very well from the 2001 recession.
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Consumer confidence drooped for the fifth week in a row this week, marking an eight-point decline during the past month and reaching a new low for 2006, according to the latest release of The Washington Post-ABC News Consumer Comfort survey.

Overall, the index is at -19, down from -17 last week and -11 at this point in April. This puts the confidence measure in sight of last fall's gloomy, post-Katrina numbers, when the index hit -23.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-dyn%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F2006%2F05%2F23%2FAR2006052301155_pf.html

Just because there was a 4.8% jump doesnt mean it wasnt at a low in the first place.

Oh and remember the crash in '87?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2189601,00.html

Well the other two Bush men have proved to be total losers. Odds are at least one in the family should have the ability to do something useful with his life in a position that won't hurt anything if the odds prove wrong and all three are losers. I'm all for it. Besides, the job is just a status symbol, can't really do anything to hurt the game anyway.


a high percentage of people on NS wouldnt agree with you as far as the job being "just a status symbol". Not when they feel President Bush caused hurricane Katrina and hates black people and carried out a personal vendetta against saddam.

Is this a thread about a possible NFL Commissioner in Jeb Bush or Economics?

Is this a thread about a possible NFL Commissioner in Jeb Bush or Economics?
It does seem to have drifted a touch in a page and a half.

And someone ought to be marking this down as a rare case in which I proudly support a conservative Republican and PNACer for something. :D

It does seem to have drifted a touch in a page and a half.

And someone ought to be marking this down as a rare case in which I proudly support a conservative Republican and PNACer for something. :D

Already did. I would say its almost sig worthy :D

That's what the article notes, but come on--how many people play the "I'm not interested in running for President" and then jump in later?

Hillary has been saying it since W was sworn in, and we all know she's going to run. I completely believe that (even though he said he wasn't considering it) Jeb seriously had his hat in the ring.

Hillary has been saying it since W was sworn in, and we all know she's going to run. I completely believe that (even though he said he wasn't considering it) Jeb seriously had his hat in the ring.
And he might still give it a shot, though his brother has so seriously fouled the waters that he might decide to let the memory fade a bit before going for it. NFL Commissioner would be a way to stay in the public eye.

Why? Jeb is a great leader.

You are always good for an amusing laugh, giggle, snort or guffaw. Congrats. :D

And he might still give it a shot, though his brother has so seriously fouled the waters that he might decide to let the memory fade a bit before going for it. NFL Commissioner would be a way to stay in the public eye.

True. And, if an actor can go on to become President, certainly a Governor-turned-Sports-Bossman could later do so, also.

But, you know what, even with the Bush name so low, I don't think Hillary can win. I don't think the country will vote for a woman, let alone one who isn't seen as at all feminine. I honestly think that if W himself could (and did) run again, despite his 30% Approval Rating, he'd win.

True. And, if an actor can go on to become President, certainly a Governor-turned-Sports-Bossman could later do so, also.

But, you know what, even with the Bush name so low, I don't think Hillary can win. I don't think the country will vote for a woman, let alone one who isn't seen as at all feminine. I honestly think that if W himself could (and did) run again, despite his 30% Approval Rating, he'd win.

Only because of Karl Rove.

In fact, I not only support this move, I'm cheering loudly for it.


Another conspiracy made up by the mad left in order to drive a wedge between Condoleeza Rice and Jeb Bush.

a high percentage of people on NS wouldnt agree with you as far as the job being "just a status symbol". Not when they feel President Bush caused hurricane Katrina and hates black people and carried out a personal vendetta against saddam.
Well, not "caused" Katrina, just screwed up the response. Otherwise, you're right on. In any case, dad and bro have just about finished the Bush name for now. NFL commissioner is a great safe job for a rich guy that only needs to blackmail cities into paying the costs so richer people can keep the profits. At least no one will die.

Since this thread is about Governor Jeb Bush and about him running for President or not, this is a good thread for me to post my pro Jeb Bush for president post.

In honor of Pepe Dominguez.

President Jeb Bush 2008

Florida Republican Governor Jeb Bush for President 2008.

Jeb Bush is a popular Florida Governor, from Miami Florida,
actually born in Midland Texas, the Cubans like him, oh well no-one is perfect, he is married to a Mexican, he speaks perfect fluent spanish, his son looks 100 percent hispanic and speaks perfect fluent spanish, that is a good resume in relating to the hispanic vote.

And Floridas overall unemployment rate is 3.1 percent, one of the lowest in the nation, Florida leads other states in job growth.

While I would love to see Jeb Bush win in 2008, I understand the chances of another President Bush
following President George W Bush is not good, and right now it dosent look good, but alot can change in politics, but dont think I am under any illusions here.

Text is based on a number of diffrent sources, as it is very hard to find all the information one needs with only one source.

I had to put this toghether piece by piece, but I had fun with it.

Both sides agreed Jeb Bush and W got a majority of the hispanic vote i in Florida, (as did W.) but couldn't agree whether his percentage was in the 50s or 60s.

Republicans have traditionally fared well in Florida because of Gop-leaning Cuban Americans who are now joined by a growing number of Puerto Ricans, and Mexicans.

Florida Governor Jeb Bush is younger, smarter, taller more
articulate harder working and better looking than George W, Jeb Bush will be 55 in 2008 and 63 in 2016, the age his father was elected President.

Jeb Bush speaks excellent spanish, has a degree in Latin American study, has a mexican born wife, and lots of useful contacts with rich Mexican power brokers.

He did just as well with Florida Mexican Americans who now constitute a good part of the Florida hispanic population.

As a longtime supporter of Israel, Bush also maintains a significant connection to Florida's Jewish voters. He was endorsed in his two winning governor races by a national Jewish publication, and won 44% of the state's Jewish vote in the 2002 governor's race.

Many black voters support his focus on public education and parental choice in education, and a number of Black Republican clubs have sprung up in Florida.

In his re-election in 2002, Bush surprised critics by winning the white female vote in the swing-voting
battleground of Central Florida's I-4 corridor.

Most recently, he has reached out extensively to Florida's
Haitian community, taking on a unique leadership role to help rebuild that neighboring country and assist its impoverished people.

Official Results,
Florida Department of State,
Division of Elections.

Nov 03, 1998 general election

Jeb Bush 2,191,105 - 55.27 %
Buddy Mackay 1,773,054 - 44.72 %
Others 282- .01 %
_______________________________
3,964,441 - 100 %

-------------------------------

Florida Department of State
Division of Elections

Nov 05, 2002 General Election

Jeb Bush 2,856,845 - 56.01 %
Bill McBride 2,201,427 - 43.16 %
Others 42,309 - .83 %
_______________________________
5,100,581 - 100 %

I would love to see President elect

Jeb Bush 2008, The 44 th President of the U.S.A.

Since this thread is about Governor Jeb Bush and about him running for President or not, this is a good thread for me to post my pro Jeb Bush for president post.
You know, you could at least go to the effort to change it up a bit instead of copying and pasting the same old stuff. And besides, the whole Jeb for President angle was just an aside--this is more about the potential for him to become NFL Commissioner which is, sadly, slipping farther and farther away from reality.

*snip*

Actually this is about him taking over the NFL, not the presidency.

Actually this is about him taking over the NFL, not the presidency.
Better watch out, Corny. People are going to think we like each other. ;)

Better watch out, Corny. People are going to think we like each other. ;)

Remember...want to keep more of your money, vote Republican :D ;)

Id rather him run for president. He will kill Hillary in 08 and follow in the long line of great Bush Presidents. Just picturing as president makes me smile and feel all warm inside.

Id rather him run for president. He will kill Hillary in 08 and follow in the long line of great Bush Presidents. Just picturing as president makes me smile and feel all warm inside.

Then you need to have your head examined.

Then you need to have your head examined.
would you rather have him or commie hillary?

You know, you could at least go to the effort to change it up a bit instead of copying and pasting the same old stuff. And besides, the whole Jeb for President angle was just an aside--this is more about the potential for him to become NFL Commissioner which is, sadly, slipping farther and farther away from reality.


I knew most of you have already seen my post before, but many others have not and I would love to promote him for President anytime I get a chance even if he keeps saying he is not running for it, and I think he might someday.

would you rather have him or commie hillary?

How about neither?

I knew most of you have already seen my post before, but many others have not and I would love to promote him for President anytime I get a chance even if he keeps saying he is not running for it, and I think he might someday.
Then how about you start yet another topic on the subject?

Remember...want to keep more of your money, vote Republican :D ;)
Well, I won't keep it either way--I figure I can spend it on taxes or on overpriced corporate replacements for the services government provides. I think that in a lot of cases, I get more for my money from government. They're not as worried about profit motive.

Well, I won't keep it either way--I figure I can spend it on taxes or on overpriced corporate replacements for the services government provides. I think that in a lot of cases, I get more for my money from government. They're not as worried about profit motive.
The Government gets tied up in unnecessary beaucracy, thus you pay more. This is why most government services(except military) sohuld be done away with.

Quote:
Originally Posted by La Habana Cuba
I knew most of you have already seen my post before, but many others have not and I would love to promote him for President anytime I get a chance even if he keeps saying he is not running for it, and I think he might someday.

Then how about you start yet another topic on the subject?

I will someday you can count on it, you have my word on it.

I'll support it (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0523fjeb,0,2166425.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines).
In fact, I not only support this move, I'm cheering loudly for it.
but, Condi wanted the job... damn, guess she'll have to settle for running for Prez then... :(

but, Condi wanted the job... damn, guess she'll have to settle for running for Prez then... :(
At this point, she might be thinking that a move from SecState in this administration to NFL Commissioner would be a move up. And she'd probably be right.

but, Condi wanted the job... damn, guess she'll have to settle for running for Prez then... :(

I'd love to see it, because I think she might be one of the few people that Hillary could beat, because of reasons I'd rather not face as reality. :eek:

Feingold 4 prez

Feingold 4 prez

Doubtful but this is about the NFL and not the president.

:rolleyes:

And yet the US Economy is booming.

Also....Jeb Bush isn't going to run for President. He's stated that himself and he is interested in being the Commissioner but wants to finish his term as Governor.

I wish Jeb would reconsider. Hitlery would get mopped by Jeb.

I wish Jeb would reconsider. Hitlery would get mopped by Jeb.Anyone else find it odd that a person who would act as slanderous as this would have this sig?
We live by grace through faith alone in Jesus Christ
Who died to set us free
From chains our flesh can give
You know that even if you were the only one He died for
That means only your sins drove the nails
Seems to me you have no concept of the meaning of grace.

Anyone else find it odd that a person who would act as slanderous as this would have this sig?

Seems to me you have no concept of the meaning of grace.

Grace? Yes. Grace is NOT getting what you deserve. For example, Moussaui got grace when he didn't get the electric chair. And I for example, received grace for my wrong doings when I accepted Christ as my savior. Now I'm saved, pure and simple, and I have received grace through faith.

Grace? Yes. Grace is NOT getting what you deserve. For example, Moussaui got grace when he didn't get the electric chair. And I for example, received grace for my wrong doings when I accepted Christ as my savior. Now I'm saved, pure and simple, and I have received grace through faith.
And that means Jesus loves you even when you slander a person? Must be nice having carte blanche to sin without consequence.

And that means Jesus loves you even when you slander a person? Must be nice having carte blanche to sin without consequence.

Forgetting the fact that Paul tells us not to sin constantly. Just because we are saved through the Blood of Jesus doesn't mean we have carte blanche to sin.

And that means Jesus loves you even when you slander a person? Must be nice having carte blanche to sin without consequence.


It's not slander, it's the truth. Hillary Clinton, if she runs for president (God Forbid) and wins it (God forbid even more) wouldn't have a problem handing American sovereingty and US armed forces over to the UN.

Not to mention the crackdown on "undersirables"-Gun owners, Christians, etc.

Forgetting the fact that Paul tells us not to sin constantly. Just because we are saved through the Blood of Jesus doesn't mean we have carte blanche to sin.

Amen.

It's not slander, it's the truth. Hillary Clinton, if she runs for president (God Forbid) and wins it (God forbid even more) wouldn't have a problem handing American sovereingty and US armed forces over to the UN.

Not to mention the crackdown on "undersirables"-Gun owners, Christians, etc.

That depends on the make up of the US Congress :D

It's not slander, it's the truth. Hillary Clinton, if she runs for president (God Forbid) and wins it (God forbid even more) wouldn't have a problem handing American sovereingty and US armed forces over to the UN.

Not to mention the crackdown on "undersirables"-Gun owners, Christians, etc.
Assuming you're right--and you're not--that still doesn't mean she's a mass-murdering ethnic cleanser.

Forgetting the fact that Paul tells us not to sin constantly. Just because we are saved through the Blood of Jesus doesn't mean we have carte blanche to sin.
And yet slander is a willful sin. Why should there be automatic grace for deliberate, willful sin?

And yet slander is a willful sin. Why should there be automatic grace for deliberate, willful sin?

Why don't you ask marksman?

Assuming you're right--and you're not--that still doesn't mean she's a mass-murdering ethnic cleanser.

And she isn't as far as I know.

Why don't you ask marksman?
I only replied to you because you defined grace. I have no beef with you on this, and I hope you realize that. Not all Christians use the concept to excuse sin, but some unquestionably do, and I was simply trying to point that out.

And she isn't as far as I know.
Which is part of the reason I object so strenuously to the "Hitlery" reference. And I should say that I also object to people who call Bush "Chimpy McHitlerburton." It's beyond the pale.

A 36% jump (http://www.dailynews.com/business/ci_3853808) in foreclosures is NOT the sign of a healthy economy...

Actually, an increased bankruptcy rate is a sign of a strong economy.

And yet slander is a willful sin. Why should there be automatic grace for deliberate, willful sin?

There isn't. Forgiveness is required for sin.


Slander is only slander if it's false. If it's true it's called DIRT. :p

I only replied to you because you defined grace. I have no beef with you on this, and I hope you realize that. Not all Christians use the concept to excuse sin, but some unquestionably do, and I was simply trying to point that out.

Your right they do and I shake my head when they do too. I know you have no beef with me for once and I'm grateful :)

as for automatic grace, I cannot answer the question in regards to willful sinning only that willful sinning is to be avoided for sinning is death.

Your right they do and I shake my head when they do too. I know you have no beef with me for once and I'm grateful :)

as for automatic grace, I cannot answer the question in regards to willful sinning only that willful sinning is to be avoided for sinning is death.


"For the wages of sin is death.."

Isaiah 54 something.

There isn't. Forgiveness is required for sin.


Slander is only slander if it's false. If it's true it's called DIRT. :p
So you do actually believe that Hillary Clinton has the ultimate goal of taking over Europe and wiping out everyone who isn't Aryan? Just making sure.

"For the wages of sin is death.."

Isaiah 54 something.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Actually, an increased bankruptcy rate is a sign of a strong economy.

You know what's funny?

The highest years of personal bankruptcy and foreclosure filings were 1998, 1999, and 2000...the same years in which unemployment fell to 3.9%, GDP grew 4%, and the three main stock markets soared by over 20%.

In fact, I not only support this move, I'm cheering loudly for it.

Jeb's not going to be President.

Condi's going to be President.

Jeb's not going to be President.

Condi's going to be President.
Not if she has to run for it. She'll never get out of the Republican primaries.

Consumer confidence drooped for the fifth week in a row this week, marking an eight-point decline during the past month and reaching a new low for 2006, according to the latest release of The Washington Post-ABC News Consumer Comfort survey


The reading of -23 is not that low; the CCI was only positive in 5 of the last 20 years, and of those 5 only 3 were above +10. The average of the past 20 years is actually quite close to -20. The CCI right now is at the same level it was in 1994-1996; in 1990-1994 it was as low as -44. Honestly, a reading of -23 despite record high energy prices and inflation.

Oh and remember the crash in '87?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2189601,00.html

Do you know what happened after the crash of 1987?

DJI Performance after Black Monday:
1988:+12.8%
1989:+41.8%

Following the end of the 1990-1991 recession, the Dow rose from around 2,700 to 11,722.98, its peak in 2000.

You know, given the choise between becoming the President of the United States, and becoming the Commisioner of the NFL, I'd pick becoming Commisioner (and I don't even like football). There's less stress and more money involved.

Not if she has to run for it. She'll never get out of the Republican primaries.

And who, praytell, would defeat her?

And who, praytell, would defeat her?

Pretty much anyone who was male and/or anyone who was white. Not that they should, but unfortunately there is still way too much racism and sexism in the US for a black woman to become President or even the Presidential candidate.

(I don't think any black female candidate could get the Democratic nod, for what that's worth. I almost don't think (white) Hillary will get it. She's female.)

And who, praytell, would defeat her?
All those voters in the southern states that the Republicans need to win the Presidency. Not all of them are racist, not even most are--but enough to ensure the margin of victory are.

Of course, there are enough racists in other parts of the country for that to pose a problem as well.

I should add that I don't expect Barack Obama to have much better of a chance to get through the Democratic primaries either, whenever he chooses to run, no matter how qualified he is, for much the same reason.