NationStates Jolt Archive

http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050&q=ranger+war

Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this guy?

Supposedly on military.com he's claimed to be awarded.....

CIB 2nd award
CAB 2nd award
Basic Parachutist w/3 combat jumps
Special Forces Tab
Ranger Tab
Pistol Marksman
Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart Medal
Good Conduct Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Army Service Ribbon
Overseas Service Ribbon.

First one to get it right will get to...hear me say those 4 dreaded words.

How did you end up in the military?
I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I'd been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn't have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead.

Why would anyone trust the words of a guy who grew up a thug?

http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050&q=ranger+war

Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this guy?

Supposedly on military.com he's claimed to be awarded.....

CIB 2nd award
CAB 2nd award
Basic Parachutist w/3 combat jumps
Special Forces Tab
Ranger Tab
Pistol Marksman
Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart Medal
Good Conduct Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Army Service Ribbon
Overseas Service Ribbon.

First one to get it right will get to...hear me say those 4 dreaded words.

He is unpatriotic, a media whore, a liar, and a moron.
that basically sums it up

Why would anyone trust the words of a guy who grew up a thug?

I ask myself that any time someone defends Bush.

Unless you don't consider a coke-snorting alcoholic who gets arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct and who sucker punches someone during a game a thug.

He is unpatriotic, a media whore, a liar, and a moron.
that basically sums it up

You got it right. Now I shall say those 5+ dreaded words that NEU LEONSTEIN woud kill to hear (And probably half of NS forums)



NNNNNNNYYYYYAAAAAAANNNYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAA A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LONG LIVE THE SOCIALIST REVOLUTION! HEIL MARX!


I feel dirty and red. I need to go take a shower and wash up with my capitalist soap and wash my hair with Imperial brand shampoo....

I ask myself that any time someone defends Bush.

Unless you don't consider a coke-snorting alcoholic who gets arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct and who sucker punches someone during a game a thug.

Ehh, yea, but can you really equate a rich spoiled brat to a thug?

Don't fight Socialism...accept it and embrace it :D

He is unpatriotic, a media whore, a liar, and a moron.
that basically sums it up

So, you support the troops unless you don't agree with them? How do you know he's a liar (I'm not saying he's not)? How do you know he's a moron? If he actually did enter the Rangers (an extrememly elite group,) that would tend to belie your contention that he's a moron. A media whore? Well sure. Every person who has an agenda is a media whore...and that goes for every single politician, celebrity, newsperson, and even you for getting up on your soap box online.

Ehh, yea, but can you really equate a rich spoiled brat to a thug?

The only difference is that the rich spoiled brats usually end up with more real power over regular folk.

So, you support the troops unless you don't agree with them? How do you know he's a liar (I'm not saying he's not)? How do you know he's a moron? If he actually did enter the Rangers (an extrememly elite group,) that would tend to belie your contention that he's a moron. A media whore? Well sure. Every person who has an agenda is a media whore...and that goes for every single politician, celebrity, newsperson, and even you for getting up on your soap box online.
I like my soapbox.
well, lets say hes a liar. Ok. He wants attention. Media Whore.. He is lying to make the troops look bad. Unpatriotic. Stupid enough to think people will fall for this. Moron.
So basically it depends on wether or not its the truth. Which its not.

Don't fight Socialism...accept it and embrace it :D

Um... why?

I ask myself that any time someone defends Bush.

Unless you don't consider a coke-snorting alcoholic who gets arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct and who sucker punches someone during a game a thug.

Rugby man, it's a tough game.

Bush obviously turned around-God CAN work miracles in peoples' lives. He worked in Bush's life and look where he is now.

As much as I'd like to debate. This isn't the place for it and I'm tired too. You're getting off light ;)

http://www.fresnounified.org/divdept/sscience/images/socialism.gif

So, you support the troops unless you don't agree with them? How do you know he's a liar (I'm not saying he's not)? How do you know he's a moron? If he actually did enter the Rangers (an extrememly elite group,) that would tend to belie your contention that he's a moron. A media whore? Well sure. Every person who has an agenda is a media whore...and that goes for every single politician, celebrity, newsperson, and even you for getting up on your soap box online.

Gypmoor,


"Claims 2 tours in Iraq and to have joined the 3rd Bat in 2001. Lemme see here, he is 20 now, its 2006, 2001 was 5 years ago...hmmmn, joined when he was 15. But what if he joined December 31st 2001 and he is almost 21 now, damn, only makes him 16 when he joined."-Stryker_II_A
I emailed them:

Dear Sirs,

Your interview with Jesse Macbeth was forwarded to me. After reading it I felt you might want to know that you have been had.
____________
Here is why:

1. He is described as a "Special Forces Ranger". There is no such thing. You are either SF, in which case you have an MOS of 18B, C, D, or E, or you are a Ranger, in which case you are most likely 11B or 11C, although there are a host of other MOSs to be found within the 75th Inf. I was assigned to the 1st Bn, 75th Inf at Hunter Army Airfield form 1986-1988. We had a few prior SF tabbed guys there, but they were Rangers, because they were assigned to a Ranger Bn.

2. Fallujah was and still is USMC territory. The Rangers didn't do much there to my knowledge.

3. Nobody gets picked to go to Ranger school from basic training. You do basic, then AIT, then jump school, then Ranger Indoctrination Program, then you go to battalion or regiment as your assignement. After enduring months of BS, you may get chosen to go to Ranger school.

4. The bolded portion is absolute fantasy. I was in Iraq in 2004 as a security contractor. Our ROE was so restrictive that I couldn't fire unless fired upon. This was a real sphincter tightener when 10 guys with AKs would come into my AO.

"We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've been innocent people. "

5. A Bronze Star is nigh impossible to get. I looked up his name on the list of awardees. He is not listed as a recipient. I never met a troop who couldn't remember all his awards. Nobody has very many.

"What medals did you get in Iraq?
I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don't remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star. "

6. Stabbed? By who? Nobody ever gets that close. If you are in a crowd, every guy in your team is watching every other guy's back. Stabbed many times? That would be a ticket out after number 2. A two time recipient of the Purple Heart is automatically allowed a non-combat job.

What injuries did you get?
I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back.

7. Ask this guy to produce his DD214. I bet he doesn't have one.

Feel free to contact me-*** *** ****

g136653

______________

I ask myself that any time someone defends Bush.

Unless you don't consider a coke-snorting alcoholic who gets arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct and who sucker punches someone during a game a thug.

So predictable. Unreal! Many things I do not like about the current president. Many more things I did not like about president Clinton. But I have way too much respect for the office of the president of the United States to sink to this - and it is so freaking common anymore.

Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq

That pretty much says everything that we need to know. (For those who aren't up on military matters, there is no such thing as a "Special Forces Ranger".)

So, you support the troops unless you don't agree with them? How do you know he's a liar (I'm not saying he's not)? How do you know he's a moron? If he actually did enter the Rangers (an extrememly elite group,) that would tend to belie your contention that he's a moron. A media whore? Well sure. Every person who has an agenda is a media whore...and that goes for every single politician, celebrity, newsperson, and even you for getting up on your soap box online.

The very first sentence where it says he was a "Special Forces Ranger" marks him as a liar.

2. Fallujah was and still is USMC territory. The Rangers didn't do much there to my knowledge.

I thought so. I was going to point that out, but I wasn't completely sure and I couldn't find a good source that said so.

So predictable. Unreal! Many things I do not like about the current president. Many more things I did not like about president Clinton. But I have way too much respect for the office of the president of the United States to sink to this - and it is so freaking common anymore.

As is incompetence.

2. Fallujah was and still is USMC territory. The Rangers didn't do much there to my knowledge.

Actually, until about October or November of '03 Fallujah and all of Al Anbar provice was the territory of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. Of course, the damned media didn't give a shit until the Marines showed up. Fucking media.

5. A Bronze Star is nigh impossible to get.

Actually, every E-6 and above in my unit received a Bronze Star just for being in Iraq. Those of us who were E-5 and below received the ARCOM instead. A Bronze Star with a "V" is indeed, nigh impossible to get, but the Bronze Star itself isn't.

6. Stabbed? By who? Nobody ever gets that close. If you are in a crowd, every guy in your team is watching every other guy's back. Stabbed many times? That would be a ticket out after number 2. A two time recipient of the Purple Heart is automatically allowed a non-combat job.

Really? You don't remember that 1st AD guy in Baghdad who was at a market and had a pistol tucked up under the back of his helmet? At markets and things like that it's certainly conceivable that someone could be stabbed, especially if they're in a CA or PSYOPS unit.

4. The bolded portion is absolute fantasy. I was in Iraq in 2004 as a security contractor. Our ROE was so restrictive that I couldn't fire unless fired upon. This was a real sphincter tightener when 10 guys with AKs would come into my AO.

Our ROE wasn't that restrictive. Our ROE said that anyone with a weapon who wasn't in a police uniform was to be shot. Of course, I left in April of '04, so the ROE certainly could have changed when I left.

His story does sound more than a bit suspiscious, but so does this. Did you write this DesignatedMarksman?

Anyone who has seen my posts before knows my views on the war (totally against) but from what I can see this guy is full of shit. All servicemen usually remember all the awards theyv'e been given, and as far as I know the Fallujah battle was the US marines, it had nothing to do with the Rangers. Looks like someones been had.

I like my soapbox.
well, lets say hes a liar. Ok. He wants attention. Media Whore.. He is lying to make the troops look bad. Unpatriotic. Stupid enough to think people will fall for this. Moron.
So basically it depends on wether or not its the truth. Which its not.


So in 20 years he'll run for President?

He's clearly a closet homosexual.

He's clearly a closet homosexual.

ummmm k...

Actually, until about October or November of '03 Fallujah and all of Al Anbar provice was the territory of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. Of course, the damned media didn't give a shit until the Marines showed up. Fucking media.



Actually, every E-6 and above in my unit received a Bronze Star just for being in Iraq. Those of us who were E-5 and below received the ARCOM instead. A Bronze Star with a "V" is indeed, nigh impossible to get, but the Bronze Star itself isn't.



Really? You don't remember that 1st AD guy in Baghdad who was at a market and had a pistol tucked up under the back of his helmet? At markets and things like that it's certainly conceivable that someone could be stabbed, especially if they're in a CA or PSYOPS unit.



Our ROE wasn't that restrictive. Our ROE said that anyone with a weapon who wasn't in a police uniform was to be shot. Of course, I left in April of '04, so the ROE certainly could have changed when I left.

His story does sound more than a bit suspiscious, but so does this. Did you write this DesignatedMarksman?

No, I did not write this. Found a thread on another unnamed forum I visit and they were discussing the same poser ranger as we are.

cant wait untill i can pretend i was in the millitary to give troops a bad name

http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050&q=ranger+war

Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this guy?

Supposedly on military.com he's claimed to be awarded.....

CIB 2nd award
CAB 2nd award
Basic Parachutist w/3 combat jumps
Special Forces Tab
Ranger Tab
Pistol Marksman
Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart Medal
Good Conduct Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Army Service Ribbon
Overseas Service Ribbon.

First one to get it right will get to...hear me say those 4 dreaded words.

Ah...er...never mind...

Bush obviously turned around-God CAN work miracles in peoples' lives. He worked in Bush's life and look where he is now.

The second most disliked president in history, and still gunning for top spot. I don't think God worked too hard with Bush's life.

I call BULLSHIT the good conduct medal is for 3+ years of service he has not 1 but CIB? and he's 20??? Sorry this is crap Let's just say you enlist then go to ait then to jump school then ranger school that's your 1st year right there!!!!! IF he could even pass the background check physical mental requirements. That means no time for 2x CIB!!! and for him to be 20 even if he enlistered at 17.


http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5587990522549547050&q=ranger+war

Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this guy?

Supposedly on military.com he's claimed to be awarded.....

CIB 2nd award
CAB 2nd award
Basic Parachutist w/3 combat jumps
Special Forces Tab
Ranger Tab
Pistol Marksman
Bronze Star Medal
Purple Heart Medal
Good Conduct Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Army Service Ribbon
Overseas Service Ribbon.

First one to get it right will get to...hear me say those 4 dreaded words.

The second most disliked president in history, and still gunning for top spot. I don't think God worked too hard with Bush's life.

Bahaha.

God works regardless in everyone's life. Depends on whether they see it or not.

Carter, LBJ, Clinton.

god was a little too busy not existing to be able to work on bush

Why would anyone trust the words of a guy who grew up a thug?
*whispers: Well done little thing. Trust them your nation and order him to kill for you but if they become a nuisance, point to their past.

*whispers: Well done little thing. Trust them your nation and order him to kill for you but if they become a nuisance, point to their past.

All I'm saying is that he isn't exactly Mr. Trust worthy here.

As is incompetence.

Well, there you go again. :)

I mean, really, President Bush is a stupid, incompetent moron or he is a devious evil monster - such a tough decision. Is it because Bush is evil or stupid that he eats little babies every morning for breakfast?

All I'm saying is that he isn't exactly Mr. Trust worthy here.
Oh I agree... I rather trust my affairs to the men sending him to the cull.

Boy oh boy the heats is being turned on on this POS TURD.

http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/james-macbeths-damned-spots-credit-card-fraud/






Pierce County Superior Court Criminal Case 06-1-01994-8
Defendant: JESSE ADAM MACBETH
Access: Public
Jurisdiction: SUPERIOR CT - PIERCE CTY
Initial Arrest Date:
Initial Bail Amount: $0.00

Attorneys
Type Name Firm Role
Prosecutor MARY E. ROBNETT Prosecuting Attorney LEAD COUNSEL

Charges
Count Type Description RCW Disposition Sentence Date
1 Original VIOLATION OF A COURT ORDER (PROTECTION/OTHER) 26.50.110, 26.50.110(4)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2 Original ASSAULT IN THE FOURTH DEGREE 9A.36.041(1), 9A.36.041(2)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

3 Original VIOLATION OF A COURT ORDER (PROTECTION/OTHER) 26.50.110, 26.50.110(4)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

4 Original ASSAULT IN THE FOURTH DEGREE 9A.36.041(1), 9A.36.041(2)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Filings
e-file document



Filing Date Filing Access Pages Microfilm
05/03/2006 CERTIFICATE OF ADDRESS SEARCH Public 1
05/03/2006 Information Public 3
05/03/2006 Affidavit/Determination for Probable Cause Public 2
05/04/2006 ORDER FOR ISSUANCE OF SUMMONS Public 1
05/04/2006 SUMMONS Public 1
05/05/2006 RETURN ON SUMMONS Public 1
05/18/2006 MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR BENCH WARRANT Public 1
05/23/2006 ORDER DIRECTING ISSUANCE OF BENCH WARRANT Public 1
05/23/2006 BENCH WARRANT Public 1

Proceedings
Date Judge Dept Type Outcome
05/17/2006 01:30 PM CRIMINAL DIVISION 2 CD2 CASE ISSUED-SUMM/ARRAIGN DEF FTA, BW ORDERED

Incidents
Incident Number Law Enforcement Agency Offense Date
060951159 LAKEWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT 04/05/2006

Superior Court Co-Defendants
Cause Number Defendant

Judgments
Cause # Status Signed Effective Filed


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hearing and location information displayed in this calendar is subject to change without notice. Any changes to this information after the creation date and time may not display in current version.
Confidential cases and Juvenile Offender proceeding information is not displayed on this calendar. Confidential case types are: Adoption, Paternity, Involuntary Commitment, Dependency, and Truancy.

___________________________________

CASE INFORMATION
Case No. Caption Case Date
C234837 07/09/86



PARTY INFORMATION
Party Group 1 (Plaintiff/Petitioner/Groom)
Party Group 2 (Defendant/Respondent/Bride)
PARTY GROUP NAME
PARTY 1 MACBETH, JESSE ADAM
PARTY 1 AL-ZAID, JESSE ADAM



DOCKET INFORMATION
FULL DOCUMENT DOCUMENT TYPE DOCUMENT TITLE FILE STAMP DATE
ARCHIVED CASE DOCUMENTS ARCHIVED CASE DOCUMENTS Archived Case Documents - Vol 001 5/6/2003 12:31:20 PM
NAME CHANGE ORDERED ORDER NAME CHANGE ORDERED (Judge - 76530 Court - 10401 Judgement - 0) 7/10/1986
NEW CASE FILING NEW FILING NEW CASE FILING - 803 Converted Docket 7/9/1986

Art Vandelay
From: New York
Website:
E-mail: It's not a question rather this brave man is a lying POS, it's the message that counts. Just because anti-war messages are based on lies, doesn't mean they are wrong.


The coup de grace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_Macbeth

Stop the Lies
Iowahawk Guest Commentary
by Jesse Macbeth
Iraq War Veterans Against Google
Breakfast Shift Associate, Wendys of Tacoma


Photo courtesy Sears Portrait Studios
As a decorated combat veteran of Bush's Iraq misadventure, I am all too familiar with the saying "the first casualty of war is truth." Because this administration sold us a war of empire on a double stack combo of lies, biggie sized them, and served them up with extra mustard. And I was there to see it, man.

My story starts in 2001. I was a sophomore at Mayfield High, a star athlete who was captain of the basketball, football, and track teams, and had singlehandly scored 200 home runs in one memorable wrestling meet against the Riverdale Archies. Obviously, this made me irresistable to girls, and I easily bagged the entire pom squad after winning my 4th straight state debate championship. No shit dude, I totally taped the whole thing, but I left it in the VCR and my stupid mom recorded it over with an episode of Wheel of Fortune.

While my incredible athletic and sexual prowess earned me accolades on the field and in the sack, it also earned me many enemies in the halls of Mayfield High. An upperclassmen named Dawson became enraged after learning I completely wanged his girlfriend Stacey, who went into a jealous fit after she found out I also wanged her totally hot mom. Then I learned a senior named Bueller had sworn his revenge on me because I smoked his Ferrari with my 600 horsepower VTEC Civic, which does 180 mph in the quarter, easy.

These lying liars went to the principal and started hurling lies. They accused me of drilling the mysterious hole in the girl's locker room. They accused me of showering in my underpants during PE, when they had no concrete evidence, and also maybe it was because of a medical condition. The accused me of lying, which was a complete lie, because in truth they were the real liars.


My Ranger School ClassIt was then I realized how damaging lies can be, even when the fat Goth poetry club chicks still believe you. I was expelled and my name was banished from the school and state athletic record books, effectively ruining my chances at the NBA. I channeled my anger into my Civic, adding a bitchin' body kit from Pep Boys, nitrous, and a sweet 4" exhaust tip, but the cops busted me for 300 mph over the limit. Without a diploma or any way to pay the $500,000 speeding fine, the angry judge gave me the hard alternatives: jail, the Army, or male modeling school.

A week later I busting my hump in basic at Fort Kill, slogging through the mud and razor wire with live gun bullets swooshing over my head. The Texas heat was hotter and crispier than a Spicy Chicken DeLuxe, but I was oddly enjoying it. Sergeant Fury, the camp's shift manager, frequently praised my natural killer instincts and tidy uniform. I had already learned the Army's two main rules: A) kill or be killed, and B) employees must wash hands after using the latrine (for you civilians, "latrine" is the name we professional Army people call the toilet).

But Fury wasn't the only one who saw my potential as a killing machine. That day the Fort had a surprise visitor: Condoleezza Rice. She was in Texas to help Halliburton plan the Iraq invasion at Bush's nearby ranch, and had decided to check out the "fresh meat" at camp. As I waded through the muck, I heard her voice ring out - "him... him... oooo, definitely him." I looked up and saw Rice pointing at me, her eyes hungrily caressing my camos. She had personally selected me for Advanced SpecOps Ranger Superkiller training at King's Island Ohio, and a number of other 'duties' which you can read about in next month's Penthouse Forum.

After our tumultuous tryst Rice had a change of heart, and begged me to stay in Washington with her, to plan American empire and for more hot wanging. "No dice, babe," I said. "Oh playa, give mama a booty call from Baghdad," she pled.

Ranger training was intense. Here I was among the best of the best - elite soldiers like Wright, and Pyle, and Bailey, rock hard mofos who were colder than an extra large Strawberry Frosty. There were even a few chicks soldiers like Benjamin and GI Jane, who I also wanged. We received training in advanced killing methods like neck-snapping and hand-to-hand spatula fighting. Although I was already buff, the rigorous training and wanging bulked me up to 145 pounds of rock solid death-bot.


Landing in IraqOne afternoon I was practicing my kung fu grip on my wingman, Maverick, when the Sarge gave us the call: "Pack up your stuff," he said ominously. "It's time to cap some hadjis." Three hours later we were parachuting into Fallujah, wondering what our secret mission would be. When I landed in the courtyard of the Iraqi Montessori school, I realized the horrible truth: "Operation Iraqi Freedom" was actually "Operation Iraqis - Fry Them."

It was too late to turn back now. I waded into the crowd of screaming moppets with both machine guns blazing, cutting down row after row of toddlers as the Sarge barked orders to keep killing - "hit the A button! hit the A button!!!". When I ran out of ammo I used my bayonet to kill some more until the blade broke off, and then I began bludgeoning the remaining toddlers with other toddlers and toddler parts. Finally I collapsed on the floor in a daze, completely out of health points.

The next six years in Iraq were a basically a daze for me, because you try to put that out of your mind to keep from poignantly going crazy. As I remember, there was more toddler killing, and I think I got stabbed or something by insurgents. I don't hold a grudge, because hey, if some occupier were shooting my toddlers I would probably start stabbing him too. Besides, the stabbing injuries earned me a trip back stateside and a shoebox full of Purple Hearts. I would show you them, but my stupid mom accidentally sold them at her garage sale last month.


The disturbing face of American empireWhen I got back in the States, I thought I could put the entire Iraq incident behind me and get on with my life, but the Army denied my benefits to keep me quiet and had my Civic repossessed. I was haunted by visions of toddler-strewn battlefields. Then I was hassled at a coffee shop in Arizona, which wouldn't serve me because of my uniform, and called the police before I could call my lawyer after slipping on their dangerously slippery floor.

I was just about to give up hope when I met the IWVAG and got involved in the Anti-War movement. It was a personal catharsis. Finally, here was a group of Americans who were eager to listen to the truth about Iraq, the truth about the toddlers, the truth about the many wangings I have given to Demi Moore. Even though they haven't worn the uniform like me, these folks represent the true soul of real America patriotism - the bravery to unconditionally accept every horrid truth about America's genocidal bloodlust, and the balls to get a grant to fund a PBS documentary about it. Starring me!

May 23, 2006 | Permalink


http://www.ivaw.net/index.php?id=218

Like rats from a sinking ship! :D

I mean, really, President Bush is a stupid, incompetent moron or he is a devious evil monster - such a tough decision. Is it because Bush is evil or stupid that he eats little babies every morning for breakfast?
Because he's stupid. Everybody knows that babies are served as a dessert, not breakfast...