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They hide ill-gotten money in thier freezers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/23/washington/23dems.html?_r=1&ei=5094&en=a6b7daff2e97fe5b&hp=&ex=1148356800&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

"In court documents made public on Sunday, the F.B.I. said Mr. Jefferson had taken bribes to help a small technology company win federal contracts and to help it with business deals in Africa. The F.B.I. said he had concealed $90,000 from the scheme in the freezer of his home in Washington."

Nice, well you can find an idiot corrupt Democrat but can you find WMD and a reasoning behind a war in which thousands were killed for weapons that do not exist?

Oh, and Bill Frist.

[QUOTE=Sal y Limon]They hide ill-gotten money in thier freezers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/23/washington/23dems.html?_r=1&ei=5094&en=a6b7daff2e97fe5b&hp=&ex=1148356800&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

"In court documents made public on Sunday, the F.B.I. said Mr. Jefferson had taken bribes to help a small technology company win federal contracts and to help it with business deals in Africa. The F.B.I. said he had concealed $90,000 from the scheme in the freezer of his home in Washington."[/QUOT

democraps..and repuglicans...boy am i lucky..woohooo

Nice, well you can find an idiot corrupt Democrat but can you find WMD and a reasoning behind a war in which thousands were killed for weapons that do not exist?

Oh, and Bill Frist.
incase you were not aware, the WMD was baised off of years of faulty CIA information gathering. Most of which was done during Clinton's years in office.

so looking at the title, yeah, they trusted info gather while a Dem was in office.

I'm republican, and I hold my money in the safe behind the tiles in the shower.. and I have half a mil. hidden in the stuffed moose in my study.

Yep, he's dirty and he ought to resign.

What, you weren't expecting a partisan democrat to come out and condemn corruption? You haven't been paying attention then, because this is old news.

By the way--guess who referred Jefferson's case to the House Ethics Committee? Nancy Effing Pelosi. When was the last time Dennis Hastert recommended one of his own to the Ethics Committee? Can you say never? Heh. Clean up your own house first, buddy, before you come after us. We're taking care of our own these days.

incase you were not aware, the WMD was baised off of years of faulty CIA information gathering. Most of which was done during Clinton's years in office.

so looking at the title, yeah, they trusted info gather while a Dem was in office.
A lot of that intel was also discounted as unreliable during Clinton's years in office. It's hardly his fault that Cheney's office decided to cherry pick bullshit info and use it anyway.

A lot of that intel was also discounted as unreliable during Clinton's years in office. It's hardly his fault that Cheney's office decided to cherry pick bullshit info and use it anyway.
never said it was soley anyone fault. but the fact that alot of people place the misinformation and faulty intelligence on President Bush when it's not just him is as tireing as saying it was Nagen's fault that New Orleans was hit hard by Katrina.

never said it was soley anyone fault. but the fact that alot of people place the misinformation and faulty intelligence on President Bush when it's not just him is as tireing as saying it was Nagen's fault that New Orleans was hit hard by Katrina.
Nice, so we also have "responsible" leaders who can't take responsibility for their actions? Not only that, they refuse to acknowledge their own incompetance. History's gonna be a bitch on the Republicans in about 30 to 40 years when it's obvious that we made a wrong turn back at the Iraqi invasion.

never said it was soley anyone fault. but the fact that alot of people place the misinformation and faulty intelligence on President Bush when it's not just him is as tireing as saying it was Nagen's fault that New Orleans was hit hard by Katrina.

The difference being that even with "faulty intel," Clinton did not engage American troops in any long term and poorly planned wars and managed to catch the perpetrators of the first Trade Center bombing.

Also, Bush chose to act on the faulty intel and chose to ignore the good intel (such as Joe Wilson's findings,) while constantly changing the public rationale for the Iraq adventure.

Buut hey, don't let any of that get in the way of your apologizing for Bush's blunders.

Nice, so we also have "responsible" leaders who can't take responsibility for their actions? Not only that, they refuse to acknowledge their own incompetance. History's gonna be a bitch on the Republicans in about 30 to 40 years when it's obvious that we made a wrong turn back at the Iraqi invasion.
What do you mean. he did take responsibility for faulty intelligence. you probably just tuned him out like everyone else.

Nice, well you can find an idiot corrupt Democrat but can you find WMD and a reasoning behind a war in which thousands were killed for weapons that do not exist?

Oh, and Bill Frist.

Clinton?

What do you mean. he did take responsibility for faulty intelligence. you probably just tuned him out like everyone else.
No, Tenet fell on his sword like a good soldier. Bush didn't. He's pawned it off on others, like he's done his whole life.

What do you mean. he did take responsibility for faulty intelligence. you probably just tuned him out like everyone else.

How is blaming someone else, when it's ultimately Bush's decision (and his decision which intel to persue and listen to,) "taking responsibility"?

What will it take for you to blame Bush for anything?

The difference being that even with "faulty intel," Clinton did not engage American troops in any long term and poorly planned wars and managed to catch the perpetrators of the first Trade Center bombing.

Also, Bush chose to act on the faulty intel and chose to ignore the good intel (such as Joe Wilson's findings,) while constantly changing the public rationale for the Iraq adventure.

Buut hey, don't let any of that get in the way of your apologizing for Bush's blunders.not apologizing for anyone's blunders... but you seem keen on keeping the responsiblity soley on the Republicans for this one.

sure Clinton didn't engage hostile action against Iraq, he just tried to buy out their Government... and failed.

and remember the two bombings of the WTC before 9/11. Al Queda was also involved with that and Clinton did such a marvelous job tightening security back then too. :rolleyes:

this blunder with terrorism, It's not just one person or one administrations fault.

How is blaming someone else, when it's ultimately Bush's decision (and his decision which intel to persue and listen to,) "taking responsibility"?

What will it take for you to blame Bush for anything?
who did President Bush blame?

No, Tenet fell on his sword like a good soldier. Bush didn't. He's pawned it off on others, like he's done his whole life.
as well as past Democrats as well as Republicans. no one is not guilty of that.

No, Tenet fell on his sword like a good soldier. Bush didn't. He's pawned it off on others, like he's done his whole life.

i aint no stinken democrap...but you are correct!

and remember the two bombings of the WTC before 9/11. Al Queda was also involved with that and Clinton did such a marvelous job tightening security back then too. :rolleyes:

Two Bombings?

Yes, Clinton did have a plan to tighten security...which was ignored by the Bush administration because they felt he was fixated too much on terrorism.

And remember, the perps who performed the trade center bombings were quickly captured and brought to justice...all without secret wiretaps without warrants. All without programs for torture and all without creating policies that tarnished America's reputation worldwide.

who did President Bush blame?

Clinton. Tenet. Wilson. The American Press. Liberals.

Not all democrats are bad-if they're on either side of the country-west or east side, bad. Zell Miller is an awesome guy though, and he's a democrat.

You can't trust a Democrat, because they are WAY to liberal generally...then again, you can't trust a Republican for the same reason...BUSH THE DEVOTED LIBERAL!

Not all democrats are bad-if they're on either side of the country-west or east side, bad. Zell Miller is an awesome guy though, and he's a democrat.

Zell Miller is a frothing at the mouth Dixiecrat. The man scares me.

Clinton. Tenet. Wilson. The American Press. Liberals.and you people think anyone who even remotely supports Bush ignores everything else. :rolleyes:

The F.B.I. said he had concealed $90,000 from the scheme in the freezer of his home in Washington."


In cold hard cash?

In cold hard cash?
most likely... tho I imagine it was easy to freeze his assets for the investigation.

They hide ill-gotten money in thier freezers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/23/washington/23dems.html?_r=1&ei=5094&en=a6b7daff2e97fe5b&hp=&ex=1148356800&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

"In court documents made public on Sunday, the F.B.I. said Mr. Jefferson had taken bribes to help a small technology company win federal contracts and to help it with business deals in Africa. The F.B.I. said he had concealed $90,000 from the scheme in the freezer of his home in Washington."

:rolleyes:

I will raise you a Republican!

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/28/cunningham/

In cold hard cash?

most likely... tho I imagine it was easy to freeze his assets for the investigation.
*groans* Ok, time out for the two of you for bad money puns!

;)

Nice, well you can find an idiot corrupt Democrat but can you find WMD and a reasoning behind a war in which thousands were killed for weapons that do not exist?

Oh, and Bill Frist.

A thread about a bad Democrat is turned into a bash Bush thread in one (1) post. Congratulations.

*groans* Ok, time out for the two of you for bad money puns!

;)
what?!? the real question tho is how much time He'll get in the Cooler. :D

what?!? the real question tho is how much time He'll get in the Cooler. :D

Great hoogledy moogledy! What have I started?:rolleyes:

Great hoogledy moogledy! What have I started?:rolleyes:
hey rather this than a Poli debate. :D

those leave me rather cold.

hey rather this than a Poli debate. :D

those leave me rather cold.

What? You don't want to be put on ice?

What? You don't want to be put on ice?
not that, but Poli debates just leave me frosty.

not that, but Poli debates just leave me frosty.

You just need to chill out is all.

You just need to chill out is all.
Oh i chill. but the fact that there are those that get so heated and steamed... they just loose their cool.

Oh i chill. but the fact that there are those that get so heated and steamed... they just loose their cool.

Sometimes if you dont pass the buck that's the icing on the cake.

Sometimes if you dont pass the buck that's the icing on the cake.
the thing with Politics tho. it's never a path that is clear cut, but infact slippery as ice. one's viewpoints cannot be frozen solid for if one is like that, then there is no compromise. without compromise, then you're just spinning your wheels in the snow, not getting anywhere.

the thing with Politics tho. it's never a path that is clear cut, but infact slippery as ice. one's viewpoints cannot be frozen solid for if one is like that, then there is no compromise. without compromise, then you're just spinning your wheels in the snow, not getting anywhere.

Like running on ice.

Like running on ice.
cool... better analogy. thanks.

Whoop. I see the republican supporters have mobilised. Sick of the massive amounts of corruption inherrent in their party they do what any die-hard conservative with little spine and no real desire to evaluate their position, demand a clean-up of their party nor lobby for change:
They start throwing muck at the opposition.

Well done. Now you can sleep easier at night, cause no matter how much corruption there is on the GOP side, you're happy in the knowledge that's there some corruption on the other side too. Path of least resistance - don't have to push for change or investigations now, do you?

Repeat after me: But the others are doing it! wahhh!!!

A thread about a bad Democrat is turned into a bash Bush thread in one (1) post. Congratulations.

Yes, kinda like how a bad Republican thread turns into a "But Clinton!" in one (1) post.

If you don't like the other side of the coin, tell your fellow Conservatives and/or Republicans to cool it and I will tell my fellow liberals to do likewise.

Yes, kinda like how a bad Republican thread turns into a "But Clinton!" in one (1) post.

If you don't like the other side of the coin, tell your fellow Conservatives and/or Republicans to cool it and I will tell my fellow liberals to do likewise.
funny, looking at all the "OMG BUSH IS THE SUXXOR" threads out there, there are far more Republican bashing than Democrat.

I've never seen any threads comparing Clinton to Hitler. or as much quick turnaround from anything that even remotely bashes liberals/democrats to Conservatives/Republicans.

so actually, the term should be You tell your fellow Liberals/Deocrats to cool it and we'll reciprocate.

Discussion is one thing but too many times there are far more threads in General that bash Conservatives/Republicans.

and more twisting things around with the Liberals/Democrats.

just an observation.

funny, looking at all the "OMG BUSH IS THE SUXXOR" threads out there, there are far more Republican bashing than Democrat.

And there's good reason for that, if only because it is the Republicans in charge at the moment.


I've never seen any threads comparing Clinton to Hitler. or as much quick turnaround from anything that even remotely bashes liberals/democrats to Conservatives/Republicans.


That's because the nature of Clinton's bungles were lascivious in nature, rather than brutal. As for your latter point here, you obviously don't read many threads here, or your own posts for that matter.

so actually, the term should be You tell your fellow Liberals/Deocrats to cool it and we'll reciprocate.

It doesn't matter which order, young one, in which we cease fire, just as long as neither takes any more of those shots.

Discussion is one thing but too many times there are far more threads in General that bash Conservatives/Republicans.

Have you ever stopped to consider that there's reason for that? Reality is not fair and balanced.

and more twisting things around with the Liberals/Democrats.

That's how you resolutely choose to see it.

just an observation.

Just not a very good one.

Nice, well you can find an idiot corrupt Democrat but can you find WMD and a reasoning behind a war in which thousands were killed for weapons that do not exist?

Oh, and Bill Frist.
Nice. :)

Yes, kinda like how a bad Republican thread turns into a "But Clinton!" in one (1) post.

If you don't like the other side of the coin, tell your fellow Conservatives and/or Republicans to cool it and I will tell my fellow liberals to do likewise.

If I were a "Conservative and/or Republican" I would gratefully make that deal with you. As it is I feel the desire to point it out in both directions where I see it occur. But thank you for the offer. I'll let you know if things change.

Not all democrats are bad-if they're on either side of the country-west or east side, bad. Zell Miller is an awesome guy though, and he's a democrat.

Zell Miller is a Republican in Democrats clothing if you hadn't noticed.

Zell Miller is an awesome guy though, and he's a democrat.
Wha-hahahahaha!!Aha-hahahahahahohohohahahahahaha!!!
Hehehhahahahaha*snort*hahahahahahahoohhohoho!!!
I can't-whahahaahahahahahaha!!!
*eyes blurred from tears of laughter*

Goes to show that corruption can effect anyone, regardless of their position in the political spectrum. (BTW, you Americans might want to note that I'm a foreigner, and a left-winger.)