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The Top 25 Worst Sequels Ever Made

Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 19:42
I saw this list thought it was rather interesting......

I agree with most of this list......


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Entertainment Weekly's Top 25 Worst Sequels Ever Made
(i took out the little comments for space, check with site to read.)

25. the Matrix Reloaded 2003
Revolutions is actually worse. But the second Matrix feels more egregious because of the sheer nosedive from the original. Sci-fi droolers had four whole years of pent-up expectations and time wasted dissecting the first chapter's metaphysical riddles. And after all that waiting, what did they get? A laughable techno rave in Zion with a lot of slo-mo sweat and revelers in hemp clothing. It's like a Lenny Kravitz video directed by Bob Guccione.
24. The Next Karate Kid 1994
23. Porky's II: The Next day 1983
22. Teen Wolf Too 1987
21. Legally Blonde 2: red, white & blonde 2003
20. The Godfather part III 1990
Francis Ford Coppola mortgaged the Corleone legacy in this ridiculous postscript about La Cosa Nostra getting into bed with the Vatican, death by poison cannoli, and hotheaded nephew Andy Garcia rolling gnocchi with Sofia Coppola as they interlace fingers (it's like a mobster version of the Ghost pottery-wheel scene). Critics dogpiled on 19-year-old Sofia. And she is terrible. But she's the least offensive thing in this act of cinematic grave-defiling.

19. Revenge of the Nerds II: nerds in paradise 1987
18. Battle for the Planet of the Apes 1973
17. Star Trek V: the final frontier 1989 (should have been higher on the list)
My favorite Trek joke goes ''What do they call Star Trek in Japan?'' Answer: Sulu, Master Navigator. My least favorite? The Final Frontier. Who else but William Shatner would show, in a film he's directing, a scene of himself manfully climbing Yosemite's El Capitan? Trek V is an oil slick of spiritual hooey in which Kirk meets God face-to-face, then sasses and back-talks him. In an irony probably lost on the hubristic, hairpieced auteur, God looks like atheist Karl Marx.
16. Ocean's Twelve 2004
15. Dumb and Dumberer: when harry met lloyd 2003
14. Conan the Destroyer 1984
Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have had sex with 20,000 women and he's the only pro basketball player ever to score 100 points in a game. But when it came to acting, he was shakier than Shaq at the foul line. Add Arnold Schwarzenegger and Grace Jones, and the cast of Conan 2 is like an all-star team of bad acting. The biggest irony is that Wilt's character is on board to protect the virginity of the princess on their quest. Talk about the fox in the henhouse.

13. The Sting II 1983
12. Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace 1999
Is there any doubt that Jake (Yippeeee!) Lloyd will be remembered as the intergalactic Jonathan Lipnicki? The dread kicks in during the opening scroll with its eye-glazing backstory about Trade Federations and taxation routes. We didn't wait 20 years for a lecture on supply-side economics! Right off the bat, Liam Neeson saves the life of Gungan minstrel Jar Jar Binks and it all goes to hell from there.
11. Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights 2004

the TOP 10!!!!!!1

10. Jaws: The Revenge 1987
9. Speed 2: Cruise Control 1997
8. Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan 1989
7. the fly ii 1989
6. Weekend At Bernie's II 1993
5. Batman & Robin 1997
4. Blues Brothers 2000 1998
3. Leprechaun: Back 2 Tha' Hood 2003
2. CaddyShack II 1988
1. Staying Alive 1983

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1169126-7-7_21||233624|1_,00.html (http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1169126_21_0_,00.html)
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What no Species 2? any of those crap amer. pie sequels? well what can you do?
Kiwi-kiwi
22-05-2006, 19:45
... I liked Blues Brothers 2000...
The Nazz
22-05-2006, 19:45
There ought to be two categories--one for sequels of good films where the sequel really sucked, and another for sequels of films where the original really sucked. I mean, did we really need Final Destination 2? Or 3, for that matter? And does The Godfather 3, weak as it is in comparison to the first two, really belong on the same list as Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights? Not even close.
The Nazz
22-05-2006, 19:46
... I liked Blues Brothers 2000...
The music was worth listening to, but that's about all I'll give it.
Laerod
22-05-2006, 19:47
Well, there's always Mission: Impossible II and III...

Apart from that, Jurassic Park seriously deteriorated with the next ones. And Land Before Time shouldn't have been followed by anything else. Those movies just don't do the original any credit.
Luporum
22-05-2006, 19:49
How did the other Star Wars Episodes not make it on the list?

Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan

I liked that one more than the others actually...
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 19:49
Well, there's always Mission: Impossible II and III...

Apart from that, Jurassic Park seriously deteriorated with the next ones. And Land Before Time shouldn't have been followed by anything else. Those movies just don't do the original any credit.

Jurassic Park 3 should have been on this list.....and 4 which is being filmed soon.
Laerod
22-05-2006, 19:50
How did the other Star Wars Episodes not make it on the list?
Can a movie that takes place before another actually be called a sequel?
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 19:50
How did the other Star Wars Episodes not make it on the list?




2 and 3 were nowhere near on the caliber of true shite as episode 1



I liked that one more than the others actually...

if any of the friday the 13th films should have made it one here, it should have been jason goes to hell, or the friday the 13th that was all about jasons mothers severed head and the sweater......
The Nazz
22-05-2006, 19:51
And for my money, The Matrix Revolutions was far worse than Reloaded, and Attack of the Clones made The Phantom Menace look cerebral.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 19:54
And for my money, The Matrix Revolutions was far worse than Reloaded, and Attack of the Clones made The Phantom Menace look cerebral.


revolutions was a piece of utter garbage.
Not bad
22-05-2006, 19:56
Attack of the killer tomatoes sequel.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 19:57
Attack of the killer tomatoes sequel.

the one with george clooney with a mullet?
Luporum
22-05-2006, 19:58
2 and 3 were nowhere near on the caliber of true shite as episode 1

Two was by far the worst high grossing movie I've ever seen in my life. C-3PO with his puns, the horrific script "I hate sand", the acting that made me re-eat the food I had three hours before hand. (Given it was far worse in number 3). Saving Grace: Samuel Jackson beheads a guy.

Three....*deep peaceful sigh* was shit. I am sick of people telling me it is the triumph of the series. It's biggest downfall is Anakin "I can't stop crying" Skywalker. How the fuck did this guy become the badass Vader!? Saving Grace: The Nooo00000ooo00oooOOOo000. I laughed for about 40 minutes straight and in fact I'm laughing right now thinking about it.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 20:00
Two was by far the worst high grossing movie I've ever seen in my life. C-3PO with his puns, the horrific script "I hate sand", the acting that made me re-eat the food I had three hours before hand. (Given it was far worse in number 3). Saving Grace: Samuel Jackson beheads a guy.

Sam Jackson is saving grace in almost every film he is in, hence why he is in everything.


Three....*deep peaceful sigh* was shit. I am sick of people telling me it is the triumph of the series. It's biggest downfall is Anakin "I can't stop crying" Skywalker. How the fuck did this guy become the badass Vader!? Saving Grace: The Nooo00000ooo00oooOOOo000. I laughed for about 40 minutes straight and in fact I'm laughing right now thinking about it.

well of course anakin is a whiney little bastard, it explains where luke gets his "i wanna go to the flight academy uncle! wahhhhhhhh!". He became badass when they took out all the bitchy, cry baby parts of him and replaced them with machine.
The Nazz
22-05-2006, 20:00
Two was by far the worst high grossing movie I've ever seen in my life. C-3PO with his puns, the horrific script "I hate sand", the acting that made me re-eat the food I had three hours before hand. (Given it was far worse in number 3). Saving Grace: Samuel Jackson beheads a guy.

Three....*deep peaceful sigh* was shit. I am sick of people telling me it is the triumph of the series. It's biggest downfall is Anakin "I can't stop crying" Skywalker. How the fuck did this guy become the badass Vader!? Saving Grace: The Nooo00000ooo00oooOOOo000. I laughed for about 40 minutes straight and in fact I'm laughing right now thinking about it.
I actually gave up after Clones. I decided after that piece of shit that I was never watching the last one--it just hurt too bad.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 20:02
I actually gave up after Clones. I decided after that piece of shit that I was never watching the last one--it just hurt too bad.


the revenge of the sith was definitley the best of the 3 prequels, but its not saying much. Hayden/Natalie scenes are enough to make you slit your wrists watching it, nice effects though, but isn't that always the tale with lucas anymore?
Luporum
22-05-2006, 20:02
well of course anakin is a whiney little bastard, it explains where luke gets his "i wanna go to the flight academy uncle! wahhhhhhhh!". He became badass when they took out all the bitchy, cry baby parts of him and replaced them with machine.

I can't look at Vader without laughing anymore. For some reason I was watching The Empire Strikes Back and I was actually waiting for the infamous "Nooo". At least James Earl Jones Jr. still did the voice for Episode 3.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 20:03
I can't look at Vader without laughing anymore. For some reason I was watching The Empire Strikes Back and I was actually waiting for the infamous "Nooo". At least James Earl Jones Jr. still did the voice for Episode 3.


it would have been an downright chuckle fest if hayden kept the voice for vader. I mean they might as well do that at that point, they fucked the story up enough as it is.
Andaluciae
22-05-2006, 20:06
Jurassic Park 3 Has gotta be on there.
Turquoise Days
22-05-2006, 20:10
Two was by far the worst high grossing movie I've ever seen in my life. C-3PO with his puns, the horrific script "I hate sand", the acting that made me re-eat the food I had three hours before hand. (Given it was far worse in number 3). Saving Grace: Samuel Jackson beheads a guy.

Three....*deep peaceful sigh* was shit. I am sick of people telling me it is the triumph of the series. It's biggest downfall is Anakin "I can't stop crying" Skywalker. How the fuck did this guy become the badass Vader!? Saving Grace: The Nooo00000ooo00oooOOOo000. I laughed for about 40 minutes straight and in fact I'm laughing right now thinking about it.
I couldn't find a decent N00000000000000OOOOoooo, so have this instead.

http://vadeodd.ytmnd.com/
Kzord
22-05-2006, 20:21
I liked The Matrix Reloaded, because I only ever expected a good action movie. The sci-fi elements of The Matrix were interesting, but of lower priority to me.
IDF
22-05-2006, 21:45
Sam Jackson is saving grace in almost every film he is in, hence why he is in everything.


There are snakes on a mother fucking plane
Gravlen
22-05-2006, 23:11
There's a lot of crap on that list... And I agree that both the new Star Wars movies and Matrix 2 & 3 were insults to the originals, but tell me one thing:

What the hell was the point of Ocean's 12??!

And did they really make a The Sting II? I thought that was just a vicious rumor.
Commie Catholics
22-05-2006, 23:13
cCaddyshack 2 was pretty bad. Weekend at Bernies 2 wasn't all that bad though.
Commie Catholics
22-05-2006, 23:15
Jurassic Park 3 Has gotta be on there.

That's my favourite one.:(
The Nazz
22-05-2006, 23:16
That's my favourite one.:(
That's the one that ends like it's a Godzilla movie, right?
Undelia
22-05-2006, 23:18
25. the Matrix Reloaded 2003
Pretentious critic backed bullshit. The second and third Matrix films were the same as the first only with a bigger budget. If its one thing critics hate, its big budgets, and if ithere's one thing misanthropic elitists love its sucking critic cock.
Luporum
22-05-2006, 23:18
That's my favourite one.:(

...

WHAT!?
Cannot think of a name
22-05-2006, 23:29
That's the one that ends like it's a Godzilla movie, right?
No, that's 2.

Oh god, I know that...

In the third one Sam Niel returns, in the second one it's Goldblum and they bring back a Rex like it was King Kong and it 'runs amok,' as T-rex's do...aparantly...
Commie Catholics
22-05-2006, 23:32
...

WHAT!?

William H Macey makes the movie fantastic.
Mooseica
22-05-2006, 23:37
Revenge of the Sith was easily the best prequel, just as CLones was easily the worst. Phantom Menace was bad (very bad) but it did have funky pod race stuff, cool loghtsabre duels and Liam Neeson.

And the most tragic thing about those films is that if they'd tidied up the script somewhat, got a director who could... you know... direct, and... hmm... let's say just shot Hayden Christensen between the eyes before anyone let him near a camera, they could've been pretty wicked awesome.

And let's be honest, New Hope is way the best of the six.
Luporum
22-05-2006, 23:41
And let's be honest, New Hope is way the best of the six.

/hug

edit: sorry for some reason I saw Revenge of the Sith. Hence the strangle action.
Droskianishk
22-05-2006, 23:42
Well, there's always Mission: Impossible II and III...

Apart from that, Jurassic Park seriously deteriorated with the next ones. And Land Before Time shouldn't have been followed by anything else. Those movies just don't do the original any credit.


I liked Lost World.... The third one though... wow get chased by dinosaurs big whoopdee fuckin doo
The Panda Hat
22-05-2006, 23:44
Revenge of the Sith was easily the best prequel, just as CLones was easily the worst. Phantom Menace was bad (very bad) but it did have funky pod race stuff, cool loghtsabre duels and Liam Neeson.

And the most tragic thing about those films is that if they'd tidied up the script somewhat, got a director who could... you know... direct, and... hmm... let's say just shot Hayden Christensen between the eyes before anyone let him near a camera, they could've been pretty wicked awesome.

And let's be honest, New Hope is way the best of the six.


It's true, the guy playing Anakin was probably the worst part of the entire prequel trilogy, if only because I had such high expectations for the man who would one day blow up planets in his free time. The little bastard absolutely could not act.

Natalie Portman should have been nowhere near the movies. Screw Padme.

Darth Maul was kind of cool, and I actually liked Yoda's fight scene, but the best part of the prequel trilogy was definitely Mace Windu. While watching it in theaters, when Windu was trying to kill Palpatine, we shouted "HOW'S IT TASTE, MOTHA FUCKA?!" Whole audience died laughing.

Sam Jackson rules, George Lucas sucks.
Droskianishk
22-05-2006, 23:45
Revenge of the Sith was easily the best prequel, just as CLones was easily the worst. Phantom Menace was bad (very bad) but it did have funky pod race stuff, cool loghtsabre duels and Liam Neeson.

And the most tragic thing about those films is that if they'd tidied up the script somewhat, got a director who could... you know... direct, and... hmm... let's say just shot Hayden Christensen between the eyes before anyone let him near a camera, they could've been pretty wicked awesome.

And let's be honest, New Hope is way the best of the six.


Yea they needed actors... Natalee portman is hot... but she can't act...

And New Hope has been growin on me for the past couple years, I always liked Return of the Jedi before ... but recently New Hope is growin on me (and yes Revenge of the Sith was the best of the Prequels.... though Natalee portmans acting had to be the worst of any of the actors..or actresses...)
Luporum
22-05-2006, 23:46
Darth Maul was kind of cool, and I actually liked Yoda's fight scene, but the best part of the prequel trilogy was definitely Mace Windu. While watching it in theaters, when Windu was trying to kill Palpatine, we shouted "HOW'S IT TASTE, MOTHA FUCKA?!" Whole audience died laughing.

Sam Jackson rules, George Lucas sucks.

But here Anakin comes to save the day!

That scene almost made me puke and throw my TV out the window.
Droskianishk
22-05-2006, 23:46
It's true, the guy playing Anakin was probably the worst part of the entire prequel trilogy, if only because I had such high expectations for the man who would one day blow up planets in his free time. The little bastard absolutely could not act.

Natalie Portman should have been nowhere near the movies. Screw Padme.

Darth Maul was kind of cool, and I actually liked Yoda's fight scene, but the best part of the prequel trilogy was definitely Mace Windu. While watching it in theaters, when Windu was trying to kill Palpatine, we shouted "HOW'S IT TASTE, MOTHA FUCKA?!" Whole audience died laughing.

Sam Jackson rules, George Lucas sucks.



At least now we know why luke is so whiney...
Mooseica
22-05-2006, 23:46
/hug

edit: sorry for some reason I saw Revenge of the Sith. Hence the strangle action.

*Wipes brow* Phew! Had me worried there. I'm glad we see eye to eye on this though :) Just as any sane person would :D
Droskianishk
22-05-2006, 23:49
*Wipes brow* Phew! Had me worried there. I'm glad we see eye to eye on this though :) Just as any sane person would :D


The best part of revenge of the Sith..... Natalee Portman dies... too bad we weren't as lucky in V for Vendetta :(
Mooseica
22-05-2006, 23:50
Yea they needed actors... Natalee portman is hot... but she can't act...

And New Hope has been growin on me for the past couple years, I always liked Return of the Jedi before ... but recently New Hope is growin on me (and yes Revenge of the Sith was the best of the Prequels.... though Natalee portmans acting had to be the worst of any of the actors..or actresses...)

Same here actually - I used to love RotJ, but then watched it again the other day and noticed how comparably bad it was. That was when I realised New Hope is actually the nuts. Beginner's luck I presume.

And for all you may knock the prequels, I challenge you to find cooler fights than a) Obi-Wan and Quai-Gonn vs Darth Maul (with the other fights spliced in; Gungan/Droid and space battle) and b) Obi-Wan vs Anakin, again with the interspliced fight; Yoda/Sidious.
Luporum
22-05-2006, 23:53
And for all you may knock the prequels, I challenge you to find cooler fights than a) Obi-Wan and Quai-Gonn vs Darth Maul (with the other fights spliced in; Gungan/Droid and space battle) and b) Obi-Wan vs Anakin, again with the interspliced fight; Yoda/Sidious.

*cough* Advent Children *cough*
Mooseica
22-05-2006, 23:54
The best part of revenge of the Sith..... Natalee Portman dies... too bad we weren't as lucky in V for Vendetta :(

Nah - best part of RotS; NoooooooooooooooooO!!!!!!! Gotta be. Cheesey sorrow ftw. Or maybe the badass fights, they're pretty sweet. Or just generally the cut between our last sight of Hayden Christensen and the next scene. Tear to my eye.

Incidentally, am I the only one to appreciate the pretty much only decent bit of acting in that film? (Aside from Sammy L, coz he's the bomb). The bit where Obi-Wan's jsut layed the smackdown on Anakin and the 'you were my brother, I loved you'. I actually quite liked that bit - a splash of emotion in the filmy canvas.
Mooseica
22-05-2006, 23:55
*cough* Advent Children *cough*

Yer what? :confused:
Droskianishk
22-05-2006, 23:55
Same here actually - I used to love RotJ, but then watched it again the other day and noticed how comparably bad it was. That was when I realised New Hope is actually the nuts. Beginner's luck I presume.

And for all you may knock the prequels, I challenge you to find cooler fights than a) Obi-Wan and Quai-Gonn vs Darth Maul (with the other fights spliced in; Gungan/Droid and space battle) and b) Obi-Wan vs Anakin, again with the interspliced fight; Yoda/Sidious.


True technology made the fights undeniably cool... but the story lines... Don't wait 20 years to make a new movie and then tell us there is a planet out there stupid enough to elect a 14 year old pre-pubesent girl as their queen. WTF? And Jar Jar.... he is why there is a hell...
Droskianishk
22-05-2006, 23:56
Nah - best part of RotS; NoooooooooooooooooO!!!!!!! Gotta be. Cheesey sorrow ftw. Or maybe the badass fights, they're pretty sweet. Or just generally the cut between our last sight of Hayden Christensen and the next scene. Tear to my eye.

Incidentally, am I the only one to appreciate the pretty much only decent bit of acting in that film? (Aside from Sammy L, coz he's the bomb). The bit where Obi-Wan's jsut layed the smackdown on Anakin and the 'you were my brother, I loved you'. I actually quite liked that bit - a splash of emotion in the filmy canvas.


Yea but the... NOOOOOO part by Vader... please... Vader was a badass not a pussy like "anny"
Gravlen
22-05-2006, 23:58
Mesa day startin pretty okee-day with a brisky morning munchy, then BOOM! Gettin very scared and grabbin that Jedi and POW! Mesa here! Mesa gettin' very very scared!
:eek:

*Bitchslaps George Lucas repeatedly*
Mooseica
22-05-2006, 23:58
True technology made the fights undeniably cool... but the story lines... Don't wait 20 years to make a new movie and then tell us there is a planet out there stupid enough to elect a 14 year old pre-pubesent girl as their queen. WTF? And Jar Jar.... he is why there is a hell...

Umm... isn't she queen because it's hereditary? And since when was she 14? And come on, what with the elected powers today, it doesn't seem all that far fetched.

And Jar Jar was in there because Satan is truly at work in the world today.

Incidentally, is Padme is, what, 18, maybe a bit older, in Phantom Menace, and Anakin is about 8, then wtf is up with them getting it on?!?!! Slightly illegal methinks....
Luporum
23-05-2006, 00:00
Incidentally, is Padme is, what, 18, maybe a bit older, in Phantom Menace, and Anakin is about 8, then wtf is up with them getting it on?!?!! Slightly illegal methinks....

Plotholes and Child Molestation, uncover, you must not.
Gravlen
23-05-2006, 00:01
By the way (as this is turning into a SW-rant thread), when the hell did R2-D2 turn into an überkillingmachine, when he can hardly move in ep. 4 and onwards?
Mooseica
23-05-2006, 00:01
Yea but the... NOOOOOO part by Vader... please... Vader was a badass not a pussy like "anny"

Hey, there's gotta be some comedy in there somewhere hasn't there?

Oh and while we're talking comedy, the massively hi-tech special effects stuff throughout the whole three pre-trilogy, then Vader sitting up with the little square buttons on his chest :D:D Priceless.
Luporum
23-05-2006, 00:06
By the way (as this is turning into a SW-rant thread), when the hell did R2-D2 turn into an überkillingmachine, when he can hardly move in ep. 4 and onwards?

Amazing isn't it? Someone makes a worst sequels thread and it soon is filled with Episode 1-3. Hmmmmm *rubs chin*
Mooseica
23-05-2006, 00:07
Plotholes and Child Molestation, uncover, you must not.

The ways of George Lucas, clouded and uncertain are.

By the way (as this is turning into a SW-rant thread), when the hell did R2-D2 turn into an überkillingmachine, when he can hardly move in ep. 4 and onwards?

Yeah man what the hell's up with that!

Of course, see above.

And hey, there's nothing better than a good old SW rant. Or nerdy dicussion :D (Anyone played SW Trivial Pursuit? It rawks the sawks)

And has anyone seen Spaced? In particular the bit concerning the Phantom Menace? Sheer genius...
Forsakia
23-05-2006, 00:09
Attack of the Piranhas 2, or something like that, mildy redeemed by having 2 topless women in it, but other than that a hugely low budget gore fest with flying genetically mutated extremely fake plastic piranhas. Sock puppets would have been more realistic.
Luporum
23-05-2006, 00:11
Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle didn't make that list...

...

Urge to kill, rising.
Mooseica
23-05-2006, 00:15
Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle didn't make that list...

...

Urge to kill, rising.

Hot women. Big explosions. Cool guns and fights and shite. Bernie Mac. What's not to like?
Luporum
23-05-2006, 00:31
Hot women. Big explosions. Cool guns and fights and shite. Bernie Mac. What's not to like?

Let me break this down..

Hot women: Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu, and Cameron Diez are the least attractive "hot" women in Hollywood by far. Besides I hate Cameron Diez becaus eher mouth is the size of the plant from the Little Shop of Horrors.

Big Explosions: Meh', I'm still unimpressed.

Cool Guns: Demi Moore can not fire a desert eagle accurately with one hand, let alone two of them. No one can, it would put them on their ass. I know!

Cool Fights:...no

Bernie Mac: His darkest hour.

Even Samuel would struggle saving this steaming turd of crappy generic female led action movies.
Mooseica
23-05-2006, 00:44
Let me break this down..

Hot women: Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu, and Cameron Diez are the least attractive "hot" women in Hollywood by far. Besides I hate Cameron Diez becaus eher mouth is the size of the plant from the Little Shop of Horrors.

Meh - all down to personal preference really I suppose.

Big Explosions: Meh', I'm still unimpressed.

Aw come on man, everyone likes big explosions.

Cool Guns: Demi Moore can not fire a desert eagle accurately with one hand, let alone two of them. No one can, it would put them on their ass. I know!

Since when did we start caring about realism in films? Unless orcs (for example) really do exist! :eek:

Cool Fights:...no

Cool Fights:... yes :p Admittedly not as cool as in the original, but cool is cool.

Bernie Mac: His darkest hour.

Even Samuel would struggle saving this steaming turd of crappy generic female led action movies.

His darkest hour? Or shining like a light in the darkness?

And hey, don't blaspheme. Sammy L would pull this thing outta the dumps like a mudlark with a penny.:D
Luporum
23-05-2006, 00:51
Since when did we start caring about realism in films? Unless orcs (for example) really do exist! :eek:

I've fired one of those before and it nearly took me, 210lbs, off my feet. I'm not about realism, but dammit if you're going to set a movie in this realm of time and space then you had better obey the same laws of physics.
Mooseica
23-05-2006, 00:56
I've fired one of those before and it nearly took me, 210lbs, off my feet. I'm not about realism, but dammit if you're going to set a movie in this realm of time and space then you had better obey the same laws of physics.

But then you're not some crazy-ass ex-crimefighter mofo. They have special physics-defying training these days.
Sane Outcasts
23-05-2006, 00:59
I've fired one of those before and it nearly took me, 210lbs, off my feet. I'm not about realism, but dammit if you're going to set a movie in this realm of time and space then you had better obey the same laws of physics.

The shear force of the movie's suckage pulled the laws of physics from the set, much the same way light is pulled into a black hole. That movie sucked so badly, it actually rearranged time-space to bring Ashton Kutchner and Demi Moore together.

One sequel that bears mention is Terminator 3. The first one, I'll give you, wasn't brilliant, but it was passable. The second is pretty damn good, but the third just plain sucked.
Gauthier
23-05-2006, 01:03
Why did they leave out Mortal Kombat: Annihilation? Good God, that was one of the shittiest video game movies in history that didn't have the name "Uwe Boll" attached to it.

The original was still too kiddy-oriented for my tastes especially with the video game references, but at least it was watchable. Annihilation pretty much describes the movie's box office status and maybe even the careers of everyone who took part in it. Not to mention the scriptwriters were so chickenshit and lazy they offed a few potentially cool characters offscreen without even a scene.
Boonytopia
23-05-2006, 09:18
How does Weekend at Bernie's II work? He was already dead in the first one.
Batuni
23-05-2006, 09:24
How does Weekend at Bernie's II work? He was already dead in the first one.

And he's still dead now, therein lies the beauty.

And it's a good film, no matter what they say!
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2006, 09:26
There's a lot of crap on that list... And I agree that both the new Star Wars movies and Matrix 2 & 3 were insults to the originals, but tell me one thing:

What the hell was the point of Ocean's 12??!

And did they really make a The Sting II? I thought that was just a vicious rumor.
Oh, no they did, I assure you. it starred Jesse Jackson, and I never made it through. It and Ocean's 12 share a lot in common...the only difference is Ocean's 12 is the best movie ever made compared with The Sting 2.
IL Ruffino
23-05-2006, 09:30
Devil's Rejects.
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2006, 09:31
Devil's Rejects.
Was that really a sequel, or just another Rob Zombie movie?
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2006, 09:33
Devil's Rejects.
That's what these movies are my dear boy. Didn't you hear? I beleive someone said "Jar-Jar- is why there IS a hell". Even Satan himself threw out Jar-Jar for sheer stupidity.
IL Ruffino
23-05-2006, 09:46
Was that really a sequel, or just another Rob Zombie movie?
I count it as a sequel.. so, it's a sequel :p
Gravlen
23-05-2006, 09:57
Oh, no they did, I assure you. it starred Jesse Jackson, and I never made it through. It and Ocean's 12 share a lot in common...the only difference is Ocean's 12 is the best movie ever made compared with The Sting 2.
Oh dear... :(
Szanth
23-05-2006, 10:39
revolutions was a piece of utter garbage.

I vehemantly defend the Matrix movies (all three of them). I've filled in every plothole, explained every little bit, discussed every part. Always came out on top.

I dare you.
Cromotar
23-05-2006, 10:41
...One sequel that bears mention is Terminator 3. The first one, I'll give you, wasn't brilliant, but it was passable. The second is pretty damn good, but the third just plain sucked.

Agreed there. The whole movie was basically just a poorly made rehash of the second one. It was never really suspenseful. The ending was okay, I guess; it sorta brought closure to the series, but still...
Szanth
23-05-2006, 10:41
Was that really a sequel, or just another Rob Zombie movie?

Does it matter? They both sucked to such an illegal extent, the man should be taken out back and beaten with a loaded shotgun.
Szanth
23-05-2006, 10:43
Agreed there. The whole movie was basically just a poorly made rehash of the second one. It was never really suspenseful. The ending was okay, I guess; it sorta brought closure to the series, but still...

I think people don't like the third one because they were waiting for it for so long and then it wasn't what they expected it to be. It did the job - it explained the rest of the plot, the acting wasn't that bad (I <3 Nick Stahl) and it had an interesting twist by introducing another, more badass type of terminator.

3/5, 8/10, however you wanna scale it. It was decent - nothing spectacular, but it was decent. Wouldn't have been a waste of money if I'd seen it in theaters.
Delator
23-05-2006, 10:44
Why did they leave out Mortal Kombat: Annihilation? Good God, that was one of the shittiest video game movies in history that didn't have the name "Uwe Boll" attached to it.

The original was still too kiddy-oriented for my tastes especially with the video game references, but at least it was watchable. Annihilation pretty much describes the movie's box office status and maybe even the careers of everyone who took part in it. Not to mention the scriptwriters were so chickenshit and lazy they offed a few potentially cool characters offscreen without even a scene.

Thank god...I thought I was going to have to type out that rant. :P

Also, nothing in the Star Wars prequels is worse than in Ep. III...

Medical Droid: "There's nothing medically wrong with her...she's just lost the will to live"

What, did the writers stab themselves in the nuts while pleasuring themselves thinking about the merchandise figures and then forget to put in an ending to the plot arc that doesn't suck ass?

Seriously..."lost the will to live"...what the fuck is this, the Dark Ages? If there is NOTHING medically wrong with her, then why the fuck is she suddenly dead???????????????????????????????

Argh...fuck George Lucas...
Szanth
23-05-2006, 10:48
Thank god...I thought I was going to have to type out that rant. :P

Also, nothing in the Star Wars prequels is worse than in Ep. III...

Medical Droid: "There's nothing medically wrong with her...she's just lost the will to live"

What, did the writers stab themselves in the nuts while pleasuring themselves thinking about the merchandise figures and then forget to put in an ending to the plot arc that doesn't suck ass?

Seriously..."lost the will to live"...what the fuck is this, the Dark Ages? If there is NOTHING medically wrong with her, then why the fuck is she suddenly dead???????????????????????????????

Argh...fuck George Lucas...

Agreed - I hate the three new SW movies with a passion. So many plotholes, it's like watching a reel of swiss cheese that has robots drawn on it.
Gauthier
23-05-2006, 10:56
Another shitty video game movie that should have been on the list.

No, not Super Mario Brothers.

I'm talking the Live Action Street Fighter.

Power Ranger-ish schlock that manages to do something I find inconceivable: Make Kylie Minogue painful to watch.

It was also a bomb more terrible than the ones dropped at Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Bikini Atoll combined.

Why?

Because it was The Bomb That Killed Raul Julia.
Szanth
23-05-2006, 11:02
Another shitty video game movie that should have been on the list.

No, not Super Mario Brothers.

I'm talking the Live Action Street Fighter.

Power Ranger-ish schlock that manages to do something I find inconceivable: Make Kylie Minogue painful to watch.

It was also a bomb more terrible than the ones dropped at Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Bikini Atoll combined.

Why?

Because it was The Bomb That Killed Raul Julia.

Nothing can kill Raul Julia - he was Bison, and is therefore immune to any suckery the movie would entail. That, and he had a huge padding to absorb the blow, created from the money he got from the two Addams Family movies.
Gravlen
23-05-2006, 12:00
I vehemantly defend the Matrix movies (all three of them). I've filled in every plothole, explained every little bit, discussed every part. Always came out on top.

I dare you.
Fill the plotholes as you will, it doesn't save the long, boring, shitty movie that the last one was. It was just... bad!
1/10

Reloaded didn't suck as hard, it was just... meh. 5/10

(Compared to the first one: 9/10.)
:)
Harlesburg
23-05-2006, 13:22
Are we counting Trilogies here?o_O the_parkus_empire
Falhaar2
23-05-2006, 14:14
I vehemantly defend the Matrix movies (all three of them). I've filled in every plothole, explained every little bit, discussed every part. Always came out on top.

I dare you. Ok, I'll bite. Why does Neo have to fight everyone with inane kung-fu? It's pretty clearly established by the end of the first one that he has the powers of a God. So why doesn't he just make all his enemies explode as soon as they challenge him?

Also, what the fuck was the point of that retarded scene with the "werewolves". If you're going to introduce something as potentially cool as that, why the hell would you waste it?

Oh and yes, my favourite exchange in all of cinema...

----------------------

SCENE:

NEO WALKS OVER TO TRINITY, HIS EYES HAVE BEEN BURNED OUT. HE SHOULD HAVE PASSED OUT DUE TO PAIN BY NOW, BUT WE'LL IGNORE THAT.

TRINITY: "Oh no! Your eyes!"

NEO: "I'll be ok."

---------------------

However, there is one plot point which I'll admit ties the whole trilogy together: money.

The Matrix was a hit, and the studios wanted to capitalize on said hit to fill their coffers, thus the sequels were made.
LondoMollari
23-05-2006, 14:48
Ok, I'll bite. Why does Neo have to fight everyone with inane kung-fu? It's pretty clearly established by the end of the first one that he has the powers of a God. So why doesn't he just make all his enemies explode as soon as they challenge him?

And, while we are on the subject.. why the hell did the Oracle change??? I was never satisfied with the "Yeah, I look different, get over it." feel.
Utracia
23-05-2006, 14:59
And, while we are on the subject.. why the hell did the Oracle change??? I was never satisfied with the "Yeah, I look different, get over it." feel.

I believe the origional actress died so they had to bring in someone new.
Findecano Calaelen
23-05-2006, 15:14
Seriously..."lost the will to live"...what the fuck is this, the Dark Ages? If there is NOTHING medically wrong with her, then why the fuck is she suddenly dead???????????????????????????????

Argh...fuck George Lucas...

She just had twins yet, has lost the will to live, its not worth living for your children. Why didnt they get someone else to write/direct it, I cant get over the childish names he gave charactors. Its like he let his kids write it.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:19
There are snakes on a mother fucking plane

I'm seeing that movie, because I mean come on it's Sam Jackson and Snakes on a Plane. I smell oscar.
Cluichstan
23-05-2006, 15:22
They left out Halloween III. That piece of crap had nothing to do with the first two.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:25
They left out Halloween III. That piece of crap had nothing to do with the first two.

or a couple of the sequels. Namely H20 and *shudder* Resurrection.


Halloween: Resurrection

WTF was with that piece of garbage? Granted I only saw the first and last 20 minutes of the movie, the only good part of that flick is when myers kills off laurie strode. bout time there i say.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:27
Are we counting Trilogies here?o_O the_parkus_empire

Godfather Part 3 was on that top 25 list.....nothing is sacred here.

any movie ,any series
Cluichstan
23-05-2006, 15:28
or a couple of the sequels. Namely H20 and *shudder* Resurrection.


Halloween: Resurrection

WTF was with that piece of garbage? Granted I only saw the first and last 20 minutes of the movie, the only good part of that flick is when myers kills off laurie strode. bout time there i say.

I couldn't bring myself to watch either of those.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:29
I couldn't bring myself to watch either of those.


my favorite is halloween: curse of michael myers

myers vs. paul rudd

always equals fun
Squornshelous
23-05-2006, 15:31
Jurassic Park 3 should have been on this list.....and 4 which is being filmed soon.

Yeah, I was gonna say that. Lost World was a tolerable sequel but after Speilberg left, everything Jurassic Park went to shit.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:33
Yeah, I was gonna say that. Lost World was a tolerable sequel but after Speilberg left, everything Jurassic Park went to shit.

3rd Jurassic Park had no reason to be made, I would have let that boy rot on the island.
Cluichstan
23-05-2006, 15:35
This thread has inspired me to begin writing a script for Plan 10 From Outer Space. :cool:
Desperate Measures
23-05-2006, 15:37
Oceans 12 was ok.

Embarassing fact about that movie: I teared up during one scene and I never told anyone about it. Now you all know. The shame!

I refuse to tell you what scene.
LondoMollari
23-05-2006, 15:37
I believe the origional actress died so they had to bring in someone new.

Ah, that's no excuse! Couldn't the machines have waited to recycle her? ;)
Squornshelous
23-05-2006, 15:44
3rd Jurassic Park had no reason to be made, I would have let that boy rot on the island.

Exactly. Hmm, levae boy alone to rot or go rescue him and get 3 or 4 other people killed?

What the hell is the story of the fourth one going to be?

Dinosaur swims to San Dieg . . . . oh wait, they already did something like that.

Hmm, people try to kidnap the dinos. . . wait, they did that one too.

Someone gets stuck on the island. . . . hmm, that's also been done.

I know:

Aliens abduct dinosaurs. Dinosaurs escape and destroy alien homworld, then return to earth in spaceships and destroy mankind with lasers and stomping.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:48
I know:

Aliens abduct dinosaurs. Dinosaurs escape and destroy alien homworld, then return to earth in spaceships and destroy mankind with lasers and stomping.

I'd pay to see that.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 15:48
This thread has inspired me to begin writing a script for Plan 10 From Outer Space. :cool:


i'll be sound effects guy *woooooooooooooosh*
Squornshelous
23-05-2006, 15:51
I'd pay to see that.

Yeah, they'd have to promote it as an action/comedy flick though.
Gravlen
23-05-2006, 19:51
Embarassing fact about that movie: I teared up during one scene and I never told anyone about it. Now you all know. The shame!
There's no shame in it. I mean, the whole movie made me cry my eyes out. I still sob a little to this day when I think back, and remember that I actually payed money to... *sniff* to go... *sob* to see it
*cries*
She just had twins yet, has lost the will to live, its not worth living for your children. Why didnt they get someone else to write/direct it, I cant get over the childish names he gave charactors. Its like he let his kids write it.
:eek:
Banta one, banta one, subject knows too much, take him down with extreme prejudice.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 19:53
There's no shame in it. I mean, the whole movie made me cry my eyes out. I still sob a little to this day when I think back, and remember that I actually payed money to... *sniff* to go... *sob* to see it
*cries*



i'd cry too if i paid money to see it.
Lionstone
23-05-2006, 20:05
I can't look at Vader without laughing anymore.

Ah, I get round that by convincing myself that episodes I-III are actually a completely different trilogy and are unconnected with the Real SW films :P


I still maintain that the ultimate shite sequel is Starship Troopers 2: Hero Of The Federation.

Jusst...Aiiiieeeee! its chronic.

If it were not for the fact that someones head gets removed with a spade and then microwaved I would have been forced to suicide after watching that film.....
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:06
Ah, I get round that by convincing myself that episodes I-III are actually a completely different trilogy and are unconnected with the Real SW films :P


I still maintain that the ultimate shite sequel is Starship Troopers 2: Hero Of The Federation.

Jusst...Aiiiieeeee! its chronic.

If it were not for the fact that someones head gets removed with a spade and then microwaved I would have been forced to suicide after watching that film.....

wait....they made a sequel to starship troopers?
Luporum
23-05-2006, 20:10
wait....they made a sequel to starship troopers?

Unfortunately and it is horrendous, absolutely painful to watch.
Lionstone
23-05-2006, 20:10
wait....they made a sequel to starship troopers?

They did. and its terrible.

Although it does have laser weapons that fire like a laser weapon would instead of sending big beams all over the place. But that does not make up for the shitness of the rest of the film.

Were it not for the fact that the Bugs look the same it might as well not be Starship Troopers at all.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:11
it sounds as bad as species 2
Luporum
23-05-2006, 20:14
it sounds as bad as species 2

I would contemplate biting an electrical cord over watching half that movie again. Actually my mind is made up, the cord is much quicker and less painful.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:14
I would contemplate biting an electrical cord over watching half that movie again. Actually my mind is made up, the cord is much quicker and less painful.


like watching tank girl all over again.
Lionstone
23-05-2006, 20:15
Never seen species 2.

I have a feeling I dont want to :P
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:16
Never seen species 2.

I have a feeling I dont want to :P


utterly horrible, to say the least. didnt see part 3 though

species 2 really needs to be on that top 25 list, its that bad.
Lionstone
23-05-2006, 20:20
Heh, theres just something about the film industry that says "money!, lets make something horrific!"


Although Aliens was (In my opinion) better than Alien.

The exeption rather than the rule I fear.....
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:21
Heh, theres just something about the film industry that says "money!, lets make something horrific!"


Although Aliens was (In my opinion) better than Alien.

The exeption rather than the rule I fear.....


I even enjoyed alien 3, although most of my friends hated it, but then they liked Alien: resurrection.


Alien: Resurrection.........what a POS that was. Now i hear they're making a prequel to Alien.
Lionstone
23-05-2006, 20:33
Ressurection was not as good as the other three. But I dont rate it as a peice of shite. The wierdness with the hybrid shouldnt have been there though.

Alien vs Predator was.....odd to say the least. More of a predator film than an Alien one though. Lacking in plot but nice mindless diversion. Also Suitcases that fall away leaving the man holding a pulse rifle :D

Hard to think how they could make a prequel to Alien. I would not mind seeing some of the books made into films though.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:36
Ressurection was not as good as the other three. But I dont rate it as a peice of shite. The wierdness with the hybrid shouldnt have been there though.


yeah the hybrid had to go, Brad Dorif as always added a nice creepy touch to the film i will say.


Alien vs Predator was.....odd to say the least. More of a predator film than an Alien one though. Lacking in plot but nice mindless diversion. Also Suitcases that fall away leaving the man holding a pulse rifle :D


I honestly thought AVP was shite, but then again i wasnt expecting much, they got lazy with the alien effects on several occasions in that film. plot was non existant, but the action between the aliens and predator was decent.


Hard to think how they could make a prequel to Alien. I would not mind seeing some of the books made into films though.

i dunno either, but there were rumors about this movie for some time now, and one of those rumors was that ridey scott was going to come back to direct.
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 20:38
*snip*
And did they really make a The Sting II? I thought that was just a vicious rumor.
Yes, yes they did. And it starred Jackie Gleason, who really should have known better -- however, Gleason DID sign on to the Smokey & the Bandit sequels, so perhaps he didn't know better.
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:41
I dunno if i would have put Staying Alive as the worst sequel, granted i'll never touch a movie directed by stallone with a 10 foot pole, but i think theres just worse out there.
Lionstone
23-05-2006, 20:44
I honestly thought AVP was shite, but then again i wasnt expecting much, they got lazy with the alien effects on several occasions in that film. plot was non existant, but the action between the aliens and predator was decent.

i dunno either, but there were rumors about this movie for some time now, and one of those rumors was that ridey scott was going to come back to direct.

heh, Shite as a film oh yes. But as I said, I wanted lots of things getting diced and people trying to flamethrower a predator with de-odourant and a lighter :P Ah, the joys of 17-yr old expectations. Also, I had a free cinema ticket, so it didnt cost me anything :P


I might have to check up on that Alien prequel rumor. if done well I would not mind that at all.
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 20:53
*snip*
Darth Maul was kind of cool, and I actually liked Yoda's fight scene, but the best part of the prequel trilogy was definitely Mace Windu. While watching it in theaters, when Windu was trying to kill Palpatine, we shouted "HOW'S IT TASTE, MOTHA FUCKA?!" Whole audience died laughing.

Sam Jackson rules, George Lucas sucks.
That reminds me of going to see Phantom Menace (Ep. One, whatever name you all know it by) and seeing the scene where Shmi Skywalker admits that Anakin has no father. Immediately, of course, I thought of the Virgin Mary. Well, at the end of that week, I went to see it in Seattle's Cinerama theater (a must for any big movie w/colossal spfx), which is legendary for it's smartass audiences. I know I'm not the only one to have done this, and likely not even in that theater, but when that scene came up again, and Shmi delivers that line: "the boy has no father", I took advantage of Qui-gon's pregnant pause and look of shock to yell, as loud as I could, "JESUS CHRIST!"

The peals of laughter lasted at least 20 seconds. Easily one of my proudest moments as a moviegoing smartass. Usually, I save comments like that for the previews, but I couldn't help myself.

So, good on ya, Panda Hat -- wish I'd have been there...or wish I'd have thought of it!
Minoriteeburg
23-05-2006, 20:58
:eek: triple post!
The Nazz
23-05-2006, 21:07
:eek: triple post!
So bad it deserved saying three times. ;)
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 21:34
Once in a GREAT while a sequel wonds up as either better than or at least in the same league as the original.

1. [The even-numbered old Trek films] Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The directors figured out how to PACE the film and were smart enough to mine the original TV series for an unresolved or left-hanging story arc. IV and VI weren't as good as II, but were a damn sight better than I, III and V. IV got played the heaviest for anachronistic comedy but featured the cloying whale plot, and VI had the "at long last, closure" angle working for it, with a great line:

KIRK (to doppelganger currently shaped like Kirk during a fight): I can't believe I kissed you.

KIRK DOPPELGANGER: Must have been fulfilling a lifelong ambition!

That's a terrific self-deprecating reference to the Kirk/Shatner ego.

2. Gremlins II: The New Batch
Not necessarily better, but it took what was at once both mildly scary, inventive and even gory with comedic hints and played almost exclusively for comedy. The real problem was never plausibility -- that was left at the gate -- the weird thing was the odd interjection of Warner cartoon characters in the opening and closing credits. Bugs and Daffy have nothing to do with the story, why are they skulking around the film's margins?

3. Star Trek: Generations
Technically not a sequel, but melded the old Trek and new Trek worlds seamlessly. All following new Trek films would be derivative and feel like long TV episodes.

4. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Upped the SPFX and crafted a good-enough storyline to work. Although Edward Furlong is a complete twat.

5. X-Men II: X-Men United
From the blindingly frenetic Nightcrawler in the Oval Office scene to the comic-worthy plot, this sequel improved much, and exceeded my expectations. Others are sure to disagree.

6. Army of Darkness
Kind of a movie in it's own right without much to attach it to its predecessors, it made me forever change the way I say "groovy". Bruce Campbell is the king of kitsch.

That's all I got on the top of my short term memory.
The Nazz
23-05-2006, 21:45
Once in a GREAT while a sequel wonds up as either better than or at least in the same league as the original.

I think the Spiderman sequel was a worthy one, and I think the latest Batman film put that series back on track as well. Comic book films, if they're done right, lend themselves to serialization because of the nature of the original art form. On a side note, another sequel I'm looking forward to is The Passion of the Clerks.

Other bad sequels--Next Friday and all the Highlander sequels.
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 21:47
Then there are more that should never have been made. I haven't seen most of them, though I did get vicarious nausea imagining those I didn't see.

Critters 2 and 3
Tremors 2 and 3 (and 4, for the Sci-Fi Network)
Phantasm 2 and 3
The shot-for-shot remakes of Psycho and The Shining
Creepshow 2
Twist of Fate (supposed Grease re-pairing in later life of John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John)
Speaking of which, Grease 2
Porky's 2 and 3
Rocky II-V (and soon VI, for fuck's sake!)
The Karate Kid III (II was okay, if predictable) and the God-awful Next Karate Kid
Best of the Best 2 and 3 (the ORIGINAL was shitty!)
Miss Congeniality 2: Armed and Fabulous
All of the Disney straight-to-video ripoff sequels (Bambi 2, Aladdin 2 and 3, Beauty and the Beast 2, Mulan 2, Lion King 2 and 1-1/2, Little Mermaid 2, etc.) EXCEPT Fantasia 2000
Toy Story 2
I haven't seen Ice Age 2 yet, but I can imagine it sucks. I'll wait for DVD.
The Secret of NIMH 2
Home Alone 2, 3 and 4
Some Kind of Wonderful (yes, even John Hughes is guilty -- this is a gender-reversed Pretty in Pink...after seeing it, I worried we might be subjected to Seventeen Candles -- and I understand a Ferris Bueller sequel is in the works...God help us)
The Whole Ten Yards
Analyze That!
City Slickers 2: The Legend of Curly's Gold

These and many, many more!

Some of these that I've seen, I swear, I can actually see the directors and writers actually trying too hard to make it work.
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 21:49
I think the Spiderman sequel was a worthy one, and I think the latest Batman film put that series back on track as well. Comic book films, if they're done right, lend themselves to serialization because of the nature of the original art form. On a side note, another sequel I'm looking forward to is The Passion of the Clerks.

Other bad sequels--Next Friday and all the Highlander sequels.
Good points. Spidey 2 was worthy. Batman Begins was very good, but I can't really imagine it as part of the first four Batfilms because it looked and felt so different. The new Superman looks like it's a worthy departure as well, in a similar vein (saw the preview when I caught The DaVinvi Code last night -- bring a pillow).
JuNii
23-05-2006, 21:52
Once in a GREAT while a sequel wonds up as either better than or at least in the same league as the original.

3. Star Trek: Generations
Technically not a sequel, but melded the old Trek and new Trek worlds seamlessly. All following new Trek films would be derivative and feel like long TV episodes.


you liked Generations? it was a poor film written around a 5 minute scene of Kirk and Picard talking with each other.

Read FEDERATION. that would've been a better movie. Kirk and Picard has to work together with nothing between them except their faith in the Ideals of the Federation.
Swilatia
23-05-2006, 21:53
all sequals suck. Well, almost all.
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 21:57
How's about movies/sequels you HOPE to see OR hope to NEVER see?

HOPE:
E.T. 2 (I've always wanted to see E.T.'s "home" and or/reverse the roles with either a new kid or Eliot returning as an adult -- perhaps even what happened to the whole family...like they contracted space herpes or something).
Fast Food Nation (on the model of Super Size Me)
Stranger in a Strange Land (if they can make a movie about the undermining of all of Christianity in the DaVinci Code, why not a subversive story like that of Valentine Michael Smith, played by Johnny Depp, with Gene Hackman as Jubal Harshaw).

NEVER:

Ishtar 2: Still Not Funny
Gigli 2: Giglier!
The Toy 2: Batteries Included
Titanic 2: Drowned and Loving It
Indiana Jones 4 (please don't do it, Harrison!)
Lethal Weapon 5 (no, you really ARE too old for this shit, Murtaugh)
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 22:00
you liked Generations? it was a poor film written around a 5 minute scene of Kirk and Picard talking with each other.

Read FEDERATION. that would've been a better movie. Kirk and Picard has to work together with nothing between them except their faith in the Ideals of the Federation.
I liked it far better than First Contact, Insurrection and whatever the last one was called. Data's use of lines that were completely anathema to his non-emotive personality was funny once (the priceless "Oh, shit" as Enterprise D enters the atmosphere). The idea of the Nexus was interesting, too. So, it's the best of the new Trek films, which is, I know, like being valedictorian at summer school.
Bench Informers
23-05-2006, 22:11
I saw this list thought it was rather interesting......

I agree with most of this list......


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Entertainment Weekly's Top 25 Worst Sequels Ever Made
(i took out the little comments for space, check with site to read.)

25. the Matrix Reloaded 2003
Revolutions is actually worse. But the second Matrix feels more egregious because of the sheer nosedive from the original. Sci-fi droolers had four whole years of pent-up expectations and time wasted dissecting the first chapter's metaphysical riddles. And after all that waiting, what did they get? A laughable techno rave in Zion with a lot of slo-mo sweat and revelers in hemp clothing. It's like a Lenny Kravitz video directed by Bob Guccione.
24. The Next Karate Kid 1994
23. Porky's II: The Next day 1983
22. Teen Wolf Too 1987
21. Legally Blonde 2: red, white & blonde 2003
20. The Godfather part III 1990
Francis Ford Coppola mortgaged the Corleone legacy in this ridiculous postscript about La Cosa Nostra getting into bed with the Vatican, death by poison cannoli, and hotheaded nephew Andy Garcia rolling gnocchi with Sofia Coppola as they interlace fingers (it's like a mobster version of the Ghost pottery-wheel scene). Critics dogpiled on 19-year-old Sofia. And she is terrible. But she's the least offensive thing in this act of cinematic grave-defiling.

19. Revenge of the Nerds II: nerds in paradise 1987
18. Battle for the Planet of the Apes 1973
17. Star Trek V: the final frontier 1989 (should have been higher on the list)
My favorite Trek joke goes ''What do they call Star Trek in Japan?'' Answer: Sulu, Master Navigator. My least favorite? The Final Frontier. Who else but William Shatner would show, in a film he's directing, a scene of himself manfully climbing Yosemite's El Capitan? Trek V is an oil slick of spiritual hooey in which Kirk meets God face-to-face, then sasses and back-talks him. In an irony probably lost on the hubristic, hairpieced auteur, God looks like atheist Karl Marx.
16. Ocean's Twelve 2004
15. Dumb and Dumberer: when harry met lloyd 2003
14. Conan the Destroyer 1984
Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have had sex with 20,000 women and he's the only pro basketball player ever to score 100 points in a game. But when it came to acting, he was shakier than Shaq at the foul line. Add Arnold Schwarzenegger and Grace Jones, and the cast of Conan 2 is like an all-star team of bad acting. The biggest irony is that Wilt's character is on board to protect the virginity of the princess on their quest. Talk about the fox in the henhouse.

13. The Sting II 1983
12. Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace 1999
Is there any doubt that Jake (Yippeeee!) Lloyd will be remembered as the intergalactic Jonathan Lipnicki? The dread kicks in during the opening scroll with its eye-glazing backstory about Trade Federations and taxation routes. We didn't wait 20 years for a lecture on supply-side economics! Right off the bat, Liam Neeson saves the life of Gungan minstrel Jar Jar Binks and it all goes to hell from there.
11. Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights 2004

the TOP 10!!!!!!1

10. Jaws: The Revenge 1987
9. Speed 2: Cruise Control 1997
8. Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan 1989
7. the fly ii 1989
6. Weekend At Bernie's II 1993
5. Batman & Robin 1997
4. Blues Brothers 2000 1998
3. Leprechaun: Back 2 Tha' Hood 2003
2. CaddyShack II 1988
1. Staying Alive 1983

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What no Species 2? any of those crap amer. pie sequels? well what can you do?

are you serious?! dumb and dumberer was fucking awesome, leprechaun 2 was hilarious, speed two was good, and conan was funny, you should have something like: jurasic park 3(shit), Haloween 2 or 3(shit), Texas chainsaw massacre 2(shit), Indiana jones temle of doom(shit), Friday the thirteenth1(not a sequel but... PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT!), psycho 2(shit). see those are movies that should be on that list not the good ones i listed
Intangelon
23-05-2006, 22:25
are you serious?! dumb and dumberer was fucking awesome, leprechaun 2 was hilarious, speed two was good, and conan was funny, you should have something like: jurasic park 3(shit), Haloween 2 or 3(shit), Texas chainsaw massacre 2(shit), Indiana jones temle of doom(shit), Friday the thirteenth1(not a sequel but... PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT!), psycho 2(shit). see those are movies that should be on that list not the good ones i listed
Only it's not about what you like. Dumb and Dumberer? I am SO glad it's not about what you like.
Luporum
23-05-2006, 22:27
dumb and dumberer was fucking awesome.

No, it was a travesty that defaced the original and made me want to bite my own tongue off. One of the worst sequels following a classic EVER!

Omfg I've got the worst sequel ever...

Jason X: The X means his in teh out3r Space!!
Rhursbourg
23-05-2006, 22:36
Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
Delator
24-05-2006, 08:39
Ewoks: The Battle for Endor

You win the thread. :)
Minoriteeburg
24-05-2006, 16:33
are you serious?! dumb and dumberer was fucking awesome, leprechaun 2 was hilarious, speed two was good, and conan was funny, you should have something like: jurasic park 3(shit), Haloween 2 or 3(shit), Texas chainsaw massacre 2(shit), Indiana jones temle of doom(shit), Friday the thirteenth1(not a sequel but... PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT!), psycho 2(shit). see those are movies that should be on that list not the good ones i listed


well i see who the one person they made all those movies for was....

i bet this guy likes Uwe Boll movies

speed two was good

you may be the only one who enjoyed that movie
Minoriteeburg
24-05-2006, 16:34
Omfg I've got the worst sequel ever...

Jason X: The X means his in teh out3r Space!!


Jason X: Jason vs. the cast of andromeda = shite


the holodeck scene was pretty funny though.
Minoriteeburg
24-05-2006, 16:39
I think the Spiderman sequel was a worthy one, and I think the latest Batman film put that series back on track as well. Comic book films, if they're done right, lend themselves to serialization because of the nature of the original art form. On a side note, another sequel I'm looking forward to is The Passion of the Clerks.


honestly, and i may be alone on this, i am seriously disappointed in the spiderman series thus far, great effects and plot, terrible dialogue, and kirsten dunst is just agonizing as mary jane. it's a shame that i have to say this to being a LONG time spiderman fan (comics, cartoons, the old tv show).


Other bad sequels--Next Friday and all the Highlander sequels.

highlander 2 was somewhat passable 3 and 4 are complete shite, espcially 3 (mario van peeples?!?!?!?!? wtf were they thinking?)

next friday was shite, friday after next was passable sequel (money mike was hysterical)
GrandBob
24-05-2006, 17:26
Ewoks: The Battle for EndorYou win the thread. :)

Did you ever saw the 2 hours Star War christmas special? It start with 15 min of "A Chewbaca family's piece of life". 15 min of Groooooiiiiing!!!!!

all the Highlander sequels.

Highlanders X are by far the mothers of all bad sequels
Luporum
24-05-2006, 17:36
the holodeck scene was pretty funny though.

Yeah but that was just the movie making fun of itself.

If they classified it as a spoof of the other Jason movies and added more humor it would have been hilarious. Wait...it still was.

*Dude impaled on giant drill*
"John Dead Guy...he's screwed."

I lol'd

*Person getting sucked into space*
"This sucks on so many levels!"

I rofllmfaoasmwasopmp'd*

Actually it was pretty good.

* I rolled on the floor laughing my fucking ass off and shiting myself with a side of pissing my pants'd
Minoriteeburg
24-05-2006, 18:04
Yeah but that was just the movie making fun of itself.

If they classified it as a spoof of the other Jason movies and added more humor it would have been hilarious. Wait...it still was.

*Dude impaled on giant drill*
"John Dead Guy...he's screwed."

I lol'd

*Person getting sucked into space*
"This sucks on so many levels!"

I rofllmfaoasmwasopmp'd*

Actually it was pretty good.

* I rolled on the floor laughing my fucking ass off and shiting myself with a side of pissing my pants'd


that part when he froze that chicks face them smashed it on the table was good as well. best self spoof i guess you could say since bride of chucky


oh bride of chucky, a timeless classic. you know a movie is going to be good when john ritter is in it, and gets 50 nails to the face (or razors, what the hell was it?)
Harlesburg
13-06-2006, 11:19
Godfather Part 3 was on that top 25 list.....nothing is sacred here.

any movie ,any series
Thats a flamming outrage!
Deep Kimchi
13-06-2006, 11:23
honestly, and i may be alone on this, i am seriously disappointed in the spiderman series thus far, great effects and plot, terrible dialogue, and kirsten dunst is just agonizing as mary jane. it's a shame that i have to say this to being a LONG time spiderman fan (comics, cartoons, the old tv show).


Kirsten Dunst wasn't picked to play Mary Jane because she can act. :eek:
Luporum
13-06-2006, 11:55
Kirsten Dunst wasn't picked to play Mary Jane because she can act. :eek:

Well she isn't pretty so that just leaves one other reason...

*recalls wet ally scene with low cut shirt*

Yeah, that's about it.
[NS]Liasia
13-06-2006, 12:11
I thought Robocop 3 and terminator 3 were both huge let-downs. If you can give a robocop a 12 rating, then it's too soft.
Cluichstan
13-06-2006, 13:23
Well she isn't pretty...

You need glasses, my friend. :p
Luporum
13-06-2006, 13:32
You need glasses, my friend. :p

She's on my list of 'hot celebrities, that aren't hot':

A few examples oh...

Angelina Jolie
Cameron Diaz
Rene Zel..I'm not even gonna try
Kanabia
13-06-2006, 13:52
Two was by far the worst high grossing movie I've ever seen in my life. C-3PO with his puns, the horrific script "I hate sand", the acting that made me re-eat the food I had three hours before hand. (Given it was far worse in number 3). Saving Grace: Samuel Jackson beheads a guy.

Three....*deep peaceful sigh* was shit. I am sick of people telling me it is the triumph of the series. It's biggest downfall is Anakin "I can't stop crying" Skywalker. How the fuck did this guy become the badass Vader!? Saving Grace: The Nooo00000ooo00oooOOOo000. I laughed for about 40 minutes straight and in fact I'm laughing right now thinking about it.

I agree completely.

And I really, really, I mean really wanted to like them. :(

I blame it on fucking Ewan Macgregor. Almost every one of the movies he stars in is shit.


Did you ever saw the 2 hours Star War christmas special? It start with 15 min of "A Chewbaca family's piece of life". 15 min of Groooooiiiiing!!!!!

LMAO, i've seen it. I mean, i've seen some fucked up movies, but....

It's also fun to watch Carrie Fisher stumbling around, obviously high (just look at her face), and even banging into a desk at one point.
Kanabia
13-06-2006, 13:53
She's on my list of 'hot celebrities, that aren't hot':

A few examples oh...

Angelina Jolie
Cameron Diaz
Rene Zel..I'm not even gonna try

Hm, I agree again.

Maybe I should appoint you as my spokesperson.
Deep Kimchi
13-06-2006, 13:53
Ocean's Eleven.

Sorry - today's guys don't have the style of the original Rat Pack.
Cluichstan
13-06-2006, 13:54
Ocean's Eleven.

Sorry - today's guys don't have the style of the original Rat Pack.

Quoted for troof.
BogMarsh
13-06-2006, 14:11
George W. Bush - the sequel.

:p
Cluichstan
13-06-2006, 14:13
George W. Bush - the sequel.

:p

Funny. We don't get enough Bush cracks here. :rolleyes:
BogMarsh
13-06-2006, 14:14
Funny. We don't get enough Bush cracks here. :rolleyes:


More Bush is always better?
:p
Cluichstan
13-06-2006, 14:15
More Bush is always better?
:p

Thank you. Drive through.
BogMarsh
13-06-2006, 14:16
Thank you. Drive through.


*hits accelerator*

*then hits broomcloset*

*hits you*

My bad... :cool:
Khadgar
13-06-2006, 14:42
On the subject of trek movies I'll say this, First Contact is my favorite, Generations isn't bad, the novelisation is better of course. Nemisis was an insult ala Trek V. Insurrection was simply painful.
Yootopia
13-06-2006, 14:46
Once in a GREAT while a sequel wonds up as either better than or at least in the same league as the original.

5. X-Men II: X-Men United
From the blindingly frenetic Nightcrawler in the Oval Office scene to the comic-worthy plot, this sequel improved much, and exceeded my expectations. Others are sure to disagree.
Excellent film indeed!

I also quite liked the third one, shame about the crap ending, really.

*edits*

As for crap sequels - Alien 4. Just... say... no.
Luporum
13-06-2006, 14:47
Hm, I agree again.

Maybe I should appoint you as my spokesperson.

Sure, only if I get paid in furniture though.

Another Superman movie is coming out...
Another Spiderman movie is coming out...
Another Tim Allen movie is coming out :(

If it weren't for a plane full of snakes I would have killed myself months ago.
Hegglesworth
13-06-2006, 15:14
No Starship Troopers 2? I'm disappointed. Must have been Kelly Carlson naked that saved it...
Luporum
13-06-2006, 15:16
No Starship Troopers 2? I'm disappointed. Must have been Kelly Carlson naked that saved it...

I brought that up earlier...let's just let that die before I remember it anymore.
Teh_pantless_hero
13-06-2006, 15:18
Sure, only if I get paid in furniture though.

Another Superman movie is coming out...
Another Spiderman movie is coming out...
Another Tim Allen movie is coming out :(

If it weren't for a plane full of snakes I would have killed myself months ago.
There's snakes on the mother fuckin'.. no wait, that's Superman, and he's full of mother fuckin' snakes.
Luporum
13-06-2006, 15:22
There's snakes on the mother fuckin'.. no wait, that's Superman, and he's full of mother fuckin' snakes.

lol.

Samuel Jackson on a Samuel Jackson was also considered as a title.
The Zoogie People
13-06-2006, 15:30
20. The Godfather part III 1990
Francis Ford Coppola mortgaged the Corleone legacy in this ridiculous postscript about La Cosa Nostra getting into bed with the Vatican, death by poison cannoli, and hotheaded nephew Andy Garcia rolling gnocchi with Sofia Coppola as they interlace fingers (it's like a mobster version of the Ghost pottery-wheel scene). Critics dogpiled on 19-year-old Sofia. And she is terrible. But she's the least offensive thing in this act of cinematic grave-defiling.


True, that. The script is terrible, and Michael is terrible, in my opinion. He's a diminuitive figure with ridiculous-looking hair and a scratchy voice - not a Godfather.

But while we're on this, let's put in Jurassic Park 3 and Home Alones 3 and 4.

And while we're at that, let's give a pre-emptive thumbs down to Jurassic Park IV (2008) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/)
Teh_pantless_hero
13-06-2006, 15:31
True, that. The script is terrible, and Michael is terrible, in my opinion. He's a diminuitive figure with ridiculous-looking hair and a scratchy voice - not a Godfather.

But while we're on this, let's put in Jurassic Park 3 and Home Alones 3 and 4.

And while we're at that, let's give a pre-emptive thumbs down to Jurassic Park IV (2008) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/)
Not to mention Rocky Balboa - the next Rocky.
Teh Coolioness
16-06-2006, 17:35
i liked Oceans 12 and Legally Blond 2...
Lionstone
16-06-2006, 17:44
No Starship Troopers 2?

I think the reason it didnt come up in the original list is that no-one wants to dignify it with the title "Film".
Dododecapod
16-06-2006, 17:47
I must admit to being a little confused by Staying Alive being at number one. It's not a bad film; not as good as Saturday Night Fever, I'll admit, but a good film, actually.

It's one big problem was that Disco Died before it was released, and it was a disco film. That's probably why people remember it as worse than it was.
Xenophobialand
16-06-2006, 17:48
Once in a GREAT while a sequel wonds up as either better than or at least in the same league as the original.

1. [The even-numbered old Trek films] Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The directors figured out how to PACE the film and were smart enough to mine the original TV series for an unresolved or left-hanging story arc. IV and VI weren't as good as II, but were a damn sight better than I, III and V. IV got played the heaviest for anachronistic comedy but featured the cloying whale plot, and VI had the "at long last, closure" angle working for it, with a great line:

KIRK (to doppelganger currently shaped like Kirk during a fight): I can't believe I kissed you.

KIRK DOPPELGANGER: Must have been fulfilling a lifelong ambition!

That's a terrific self-deprecating reference to the Kirk/Shatner ego.

2. Gremlins II: The New Batch
Not necessarily better, but it took what was at once both mildly scary, inventive and even gory with comedic hints and played almost exclusively for comedy. The real problem was never plausibility -- that was left at the gate -- the weird thing was the odd interjection of Warner cartoon characters in the opening and closing credits. Bugs and Daffy have nothing to do with the story, why are they skulking around the film's margins?

3. Star Trek: Generations
Technically not a sequel, but melded the old Trek and new Trek worlds seamlessly. All following new Trek films would be derivative and feel like long TV episodes.

4. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Upped the SPFX and crafted a good-enough storyline to work. Although Edward Furlong is a complete twat.

5. X-Men II: X-Men United
From the blindingly frenetic Nightcrawler in the Oval Office scene to the comic-worthy plot, this sequel improved much, and exceeded my expectations. Others are sure to disagree.

6. Army of Darkness
Kind of a movie in it's own right without much to attach it to its predecessors, it made me forever change the way I say "groovy". Bruce Campbell is the king of kitsch.

That's all I got on the top of my short term memory.


The big four of sequels that matched or exceeded their original are Aliens, Godfather II, Empire Strikes Back, and Toy Story 2. There are a few others that also turned out to be pretty good, but all of those are movies that managed to match or raise the bar on what were already pretty good movies.
Schwarzchild
16-06-2006, 18:28
The worst transformation of a TV show into a film so far goes to Bewitched.

The number of bad sequels is mind boggling.