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Katana vs. Gun.

Katana wins. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ftIPiziWs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftvinjapan%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F)

Should of put some ballsitics gel behind it so they could get good pieces of the bullet.

Katana vs. Gun.

Katana wins. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ftIPiziWs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftvinjapan%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F)
But if you only rely on this as evidence you may get the wrong idea that the katana always wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdF9k0HVn7E&search=vs%20gun

Forgot the followup :) (I am an avid youtube viewer)

Katana vs. Gun.

...and here I was, wondering if I was finally going to find out where all the missing left socks go to...

The person holding it would still have died. The largest splinter hit almost exactly behind the blade.

...and here I was, wondering if I was finally going to find out where all the missing left socks go to...
I just figuered it would be another "God exists" thread.

Nice btw.

But if you only rely on this as evidence you may get the wrong idea that the katana always wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdF9k0HVn7E&search=vs%20gun

Forgot the followup :) (I am an avid youtube viewer)

OK, but how often do you happen to have a machinegun with you, when you're attacked by some samurai?

That's cool and all but they used a pistol. Maybe a sniper could break it? :confused:

Anyways you wouldn't shoot a katana, you would shoot the user.

EDIT: Where did all those posts come from? I didn't notice them.

OK, but how often do you happen to have a machinegun with you, when you're attacked by some samurai?
... Happened in last samurai

... Happened in last samurai

Nothing is as satisfying as watching that scene where they just get plastered by machineguns. :D

Obviously something the Mythbusters need to explore, exhaustively.

Obviously something the Mythbusters need to explore, exhaustively.


one of the best shows on television.

one of the best shows on television.

Those two whackos are my heros.

I want both their jobs.

I'm going to go ahead and toss this onto the heap of stagnant "gun vs. sword" threads. Anyone have a match?

*hands Megaloria a box of matches*

BURN.

... Happened in last samurai

Those were probably not properly trained in the techniques of Hiten Mitsurugi.

Quite disappointing movie BTW IMO.

OK, but how often do you happen to have a machinegun with you, when you're attacked by some samurai?
Did you never watch the last samurai?? :D

You know what? I'd have to say that I'm pretty sure a .50 cal could handle several Samurai.


Those were probably not properly trained in the techniques of Hiten Mitsurugi.

The noble art of being totally invulnerable to bullets?

one of the best shows on television.

Absolutely, one of only a handful of things I'll turn on my TV for.

You know what? I'd have to say that I'm pretty sure a .50 cal could handle several Samurai.

The noble art of being totally invulnerable to bullets?


Wooo! .50 cal!

The noble art of being totally invulnerable to bullets? :D :D

Pfft. Katana?

More like bastard swords, baby!

(one-and-a-half hands? anyone?)

Absolutely, one of only a handful of things I'll turn on my TV for.


my favorite ones were the exploding pants, and surviving gunfire in a swimming pool

But if you only rely on this as evidence you may get the wrong idea that the katana always wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdF9k0HVn7E&search=vs%20gun

Forgot the followup :) (I am an avid youtube viewer)
Zat a Browning M2?

I have a test that would satisfy Lazy Otakus.

3 samurai properly trained in whatever the hell it was LO mentioned versus 1 Vickers .303 machinegun with a very long belt of ammo, and 60 yards of ground for the samurai to cover.

:)

Wooo! .50 cal!

The noble art of being totally invulnerable to bullets? :D :D
A 50 caliber could slice up them katanas, especially a magnum.:D

I was surprised that it took several hits with the 50 to break it.

My Ruger number one (tropical) in 375 H&H magnum wouldnt stand a chance. And it will hole a Chrysler big block.

I have a test that would satisfy Lazy Otakus.

3 samurai properly trained in whatever the hell it was LO mentioned versus 1 Vickers .303 machinegun with a very long belt of ammo, and 60 yards of ground for the samurai to cover.

:)
Ah but what sort of ground. Given the right cover the shooter (assuming there was one that you didn't mention) wouldn't see them.

OK, but how often do you happen to have a machinegun with you, when you're attacked by some samurai?

Well so far everytime I have been attacked by a samurai I did.

60 yards of open ground with a tree in the middle. :D

It doesn't really matter. A machinegun doesn't need to see you to kill the hell out of you.

Katana vs. Gun.

Great. All wee need now is a Trenchcoat vs. Katana vs. Gun threeway.

The blade is mightier than the gun, and the pen mightier yet. Of course, what good is the pen if the blade slashes it in half? :confused:

There's a reason nobody uses swords in large-scale conflict.

I have a test that would satisfy Lazy Otakus.

3 samurai properly trained in whatever the hell it was LO mentioned versus 1 Vickers .303 machinegun with a very long belt of ammo, and 60 yards of ground for the samurai to cover.

:)

That would be tough, but they have a chance.

They would have to do it in slow motion/bullet time mode though. :)

The blade is mightier than the gun, and the pen mightier yet. Of course, what good is the pen if the blade slashes it in half? :confused:
I dunno, what good is mightiness if you're trying to write a letter?

I'd love to see that. :)

If samurais can do that, they deserve to win.

I wonder if they make better katanas now or if some of the historical accounts of British swordsmen versus samurai were incorrect?

I had read that Samurai style was to avoid hitting sword to sword and that the British did hit sword to sword with tougher less brittle swords. Katanas broke.


Anyway one thing I do know is....NEVER trust a Spanish sword.

I had read that Samurai style was to avoid hitting sword to sword and that the British did hit sword to sword with tougher less brittle swords. Katanas broke.
I can understand why, too: they hit the katanas on the side. If the samurai had tried to cut the british swords, it might be the british swords that were broken.

my favorite ones were the exploding pants, and surviving gunfire in a swimming pool


Bullet proof water, that was good. If you're willing to drown you won't get shot.

But if you only rely on this as evidence you may get the wrong idea that the katana always wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdF9k0HVn7E&search=vs%20gun

Forgot the followup :) (I am an avid youtube viewer)
I'm astounded it lasted as long as it did. Took 7 shots to destroy a strip of metal.

I'm astounded it lasted as long as it did. Took 7 shots to destroy a strip of metal.
Positioned length on ... I am not too suprized

I have a test that would satisfy Lazy Otakus.

3 samurai properly trained in whatever the hell it was LO mentioned versus 1 Vickers .303 machinegun with a very long belt of ammo, and 60 yards of ground for the samurai to cover.

:)
Samurai? They'd get whupped.

Ninja, on the other hand...

I dunno, what good is mightiness if you're trying to write a letter?


:D

Also NINJAs yay!

That's hardly fair. The katana should have had to cut the gun in half too.

Anyone got any evidence? I've read reports that during the crusades, One english knight bet he could chop the head off a camel in one stroke with his sword. Story goes he won, too.

There is evidence out there that suggests that those trying to breach the walls were simply hacked in half, lengthwise by Crusaders. Heavy Armor having some benefit, I suppose.

I'd take the .50 BMG rifle anyday, thank you.

Obviously something the Mythbusters need to explore, exhaustively.
suggest it with a link to both videos. :D

But if you only rely on this as evidence you may get the wrong idea that the katana always wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdF9k0HVn7E&search=vs%20gun

Forgot the followup :) (I am an avid youtube viewer)
Still Impressive... it took 7 hits with a bullet before breaking. :D

now they should try it with european swords.

I wonder if they make better katanas now or if some of the historical accounts of British swordsmen versus samurai were incorrect?

I had read that Samurai style was to avoid hitting sword to sword and that the British did hit sword to sword with tougher less brittle swords. Katanas broke.


Anyway one thing I do know is....NEVER trust a Spanish sword.

You are supposed to parry with the back of a Katana. If you parry with the blade the edge will chip.

A skilled fencer has the edge over a skilled samuri, but in real life battle is chaotic so it's probably not a huge edge. (Actually, it's the point of a sabre that would give a fencer the edge, not the actual edge itself.)

Samuri could cut people in half quite effectively, especially if they were standing still. When a samuri told a criminal that he would exucute him by slicing him in half through his belly the criminal replied that if he had know that he would have swollowed some stones to blunt his blade.

Anyone got any evidence? I've read reports that during the crusades, One english knight bet he could chop the head off a camel in one stroke with his sword. Story goes he won, too.

I've seen footage of bull's heads being cut off with swords. There is also supposed to be footage of a samuri cutting through a machine gun barrel with a katana. (This is impressive, but not impossible. No laws of physics are being broken.)

But if you only rely on this as evidence you may get the wrong idea that the katana always wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdF9k0HVn7E&search=vs%20gun

Forgot the followup :) (I am an avid youtube viewer)

What's really hilarious about this video is the part where the Japanese (swordmaster? master swordmaker?) gentleman handles the mangled section of the katana longingly after the barrage.

Days (weeks?) of sword making effort demolished by a fifty cal. Wha...fuck? Now I'll sleep better tonight knowing that a heavily clamped down Katana can survive six fifties shot precisely through its edge. :D

and surviving gunfire in a swimming pool

Do you? I imagine after a couple of feet of water, most bullets lose their velocity. Unless they're those Russian supercavitation capable rounds for underwater use.

Do you? I imagine after a couple of feet of water, most bullets lose their velocity. Unless they're those Russian supercavitation capable rounds for underwater use.
mythbusters.

a couple feet of water disintergrated the bullet. (if I remember right, it was less than a foot of water.)

even from a 50 cal.

Do you? I imagine after a couple of feet of water, most bullets lose their velocity. Unless they're those Russian supercavitation capable rounds for underwater use.

To a bullet water isn't too different from human flesh. Two feet of water probably has an effect similar to at least one foot of human.

That was cool and all but in reality as proved in ww2, swords dont have much place in combat with guns these days. I'd carry one but wait till people we're out of ammunition to use it, seriously though, katanas are cool and mystikal and i have one and all but i definetly wouldnt run at someone holding a gun with it. I'd take out my gun and live.

I'm gonna go Indie Jones here...

:eek: :sniper:

mythbusters.

a couple feet of water disintergrated the bullet. (if I remember right, it was less than a foot of water.)

even from a 50 cal.


They werent using FMJ 50 BMG rounds if they disintegrated. In my experience FFMJ copper clad (steel or lead) bullets seldom come apart until you hit rocks or metal or the like.

Barnes makes bronze bullets for big game that dont disintegrate and as I recall they used to make bronze bullets for shooting fish where that was legal.

Great. All wee need now is a Trenchcoat vs. Katana vs. Gun threeway.

Id bet 6 cookies that the trenchcoat would come in third by some very large margin.