NationStates Jolt Archive

We implemented the following acts:

A carlsbad decree act to weed out any liberal or anti war element from the educated classes

A wartime measures act so any deserter can be killed on sight and any dissendancy at home will be silenced. Also wartime production will sharply rise.

Yes.

We implemented the following acts:

A carlsbad decree act to weed out any liberal or anti war element from the educated classes

A wartime measures act so any deserter can be killed on sight and any dissendancy at home will be silenced. Also wartime production will sharply rise.
If the object of the Iraq war was to overpopulate Canada, Cuba and Mexico with US refugiees.... yes it would.

If the object of the Iraq war was to overpopulate Canada, Cuba and Mexico with US refugiees.... yes it would.
I would club them with a stick. *nod*

I would club them with a stick. *nod*
If you're going to be clubbing people with a stick, there better be a big steaming pile of Dog Doo on the end of it! :mad:

If you're going to be clubbing people with a stick, there better be a big steaming pile of Dog Doo on the end of it! :mad:
And get it all over their jackets?

No...if the US goverment were silencing dissidents on that large a scale, the military would have to stretch itself even further in order to combat people like me. Opposing this stupid-ass war doesn't make me a pacifist.

Yes, I definitely think the U.S. should use the methods of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to spread freedom and democracy throughout the world.

:upyours: so is it ok to let a country that is training and harboring terrorists(the same place that the 9/11 terrorists were trained mind you)continue? Look at it from a military and security standpoint, take out the major areas for the camp and the rest of the orginization will crumble w/out its foundation. This is about the only smart thing our president has done

:upyours: so is it ok to let a country that is training and harboring terrorists(the same place that the 9/11 terrorists were trained mind you)continue? Look at it from a military and security standpoint, take out the major areas for the camp and the rest of the orginization will crumble w/out its foundation. This is about the only smart thing our president has done
You need to think about things from the poor terrorists' point of veiw. For years they have had to put up with the western world forcing freedom and equality on them. Their society crumbled under the US's corrupt rule, so they took the only reasonable steps towards freeing themselves of that monster of a nation. The saints who sacrificed themselves to beat-back the US will last forever in heaven.

We implemented the following acts:

A carlsbad decree act to weed out any liberal or anti war element from the educated classes

A wartime measures act so any deserter can be killed on sight and any dissendancy at home will be silenced. Also wartime production will sharply rise.

I like you, you're funny.

you know when the trade centers were knocked down it also damaged 5 churchs? even tho when we are over fighting a group of radicals, its bad for us to damage any holy land. To be honest w/ you Posi i could care less about the holy lands of the people attacking th U.S. holy lands. We are the only people around w/ soldiers(the men and women of our military) who have the guts enough to stand up for what they believe in. its better than a country whose last war that was fought was WW2 and no one remembers them because they really took no offensive action. Yep thats a great job defending your borders while were off doing the dirty work w/ Great Britan. So of course we responded to the attacks, if you were put into a situation that thousands of your countries people died in less the 2 hours would you stand up for your self or would you tuck tail and run? We are the world police because no one else has the brass ennough to try to prevent another Hitler, Stalin,Musslini, or Castro. We are apparently in this world one of few who realize the dangers of another man such as these.

you know when the trade centers were knocked down it also damaged 5 churchs? even tho when we are over fighting a group of radicals, its bad for us to damage any holy land. To be honest w/ you Posi i could care less about the holy lands of the people attacking th U.S. holy lands. We are the only people around w/ soldiers(the men and women of our military) who have the guts enough to stand up for what they believe in. its better than a country whose last war that was fought was WW2 and no one remembers them because they really took no offensive action. Yep thats a great job defending your borders while were off doing the dirty work w/ Great Britan. So of course we responded to the attacks, if you were put into a situation that thousands of your countries people died in less the 2 hours would you stand up for your self or would you tuck tail and run? We are the world police because no one else has the brass ennough to try to prevent another Hitler, Stalin,Musslini, or Castro. We are apparently in this world one of few who realize the dangers of another man such as these.
We did fight the terrorists, in Afganistan. Ya know, the country they were attacking from. And the best thanks we got from the US was the US bombing our soldiers. The reason we did not fight is you were totally unable to prove the Saddam needed was a threat worthy of removing.

OH, YEAH!!!! GO FOR IT AMERICA!!!! Our troops would feel supported, by less anti-war stupidity, and by their comrades standing by them (because they sure-as-heck wouldn't run!)

We implemented the following acts:

A carlsbad decree act to weed out any liberal or anti war element from the educated classes

A wartime measures act so any deserter can be killed on sight and any dissendancy at home will be silenced. Also wartime production will sharply rise.
Making being against the war a ThoughtCrime isn't funny.
Martial Law isn't funny.
Turning the US into a Neo Facist nation isn't funny.
(Wait isn't that already happening?)

you know when the trade centers were knocked down it also damaged 5 churchs? even tho when we are over fighting a group of radicals, its bad for us to damage any holy land. To be honest w/ you Posi i could care less about the holy lands of the people attacking th U.S. holy lands. We are the only people around w/ soldiers(the men and women of our military) who have the guts enough to stand up for what they believe in. its better than a country whose last war that was fought was WW2 and no one remembers them because they really took no offensive action. Yep thats a great job defending your borders while were off doing the dirty work w/ Great Britan. So of course we responded to the attacks, if you were put into a situation that thousands of your countries people died in less the 2 hours would you stand up for your self or would you tuck tail and run? We are the world police because no one else has the brass ennough to try to prevent another Hitler, Stalin,Musslini, or Castro. We are apparently in this world one of few who realize the dangers of another man such as these. HERE, HERE!!!!! *claps* I'm on your side %100. END STUPIDITY!! STOP LIBERALISM!!

you know when the trade centers were knocked down it also damaged 5 churchs? even tho when we are over fighting a group of radicals, its bad for us to damage any holy land. To be honest w/ you Posi i could care less about the holy lands of the people attacking th U.S. holy lands. We are the only people around w/ soldiers(the men and women of our military) who have the guts enough to stand up for what they believe in. its better than a country whose last war that was fought was WW2 and no one remembers them because they really took no offensive action. Yep thats a great job defending your borders while were off doing the dirty work w/ Great Britan. So of course we responded to the attacks, if you were put into a situation that thousands of your countries people died in less the 2 hours would you stand up for your self or would you tuck tail and run? We are the world police because no one else has the brass ennough to try to prevent another Hitler, Stalin,Musslini, or Castro. We are apparently in this world one of few who realize the dangers of another man such as these.
Did they plan on harming churches? Nah.

Saddam was aiding the same group and the his country allowed the 9/11 terrorists to be originally train there and he knew it. by the way we are still in Afganistan, if Bin Ladin apparently states that his people love death and americans love life, then why is he running from the bombs? ohh yeah he really looks forward to dying huh?he dies against us and hes a savior in his peoples eyes. ask your self does he and his people love death or does he love to see his people die for causes hes to afraid to do himself?

ok if you take down two towers that big, you have to be pretty ignorant to not think something will be in its way when in falls. im saying that its our holy land and they crossed the line weather intentinal or not.

ok if you take down two towers that big, you have to be pretty ignorant to not think something will be in its way when in falls. im saying that its our holy land and they crossed the line weather intentinal or not.
Silly kid, America doesn't have holy land.

dont sit here and tell me how bad america is, if it was so bad would we have the highest overseas immigration rate in the world? appartntly people like to whine and complain but dont do jack about it.

dont sit here and tell me how bad america is, if it was so bad would we have the highest overseas immigration rate in the world? appartntly people like to whine and complain but dont do jack about it.
The terrorist did something about it. Iran and Venezuela are doing something about it. Look what happened/is going to happen to them.

have you met every single person in the U.S., because until then you dont nkow what is and isnt "holy" to us.

Do those countries have as much influcence tho, no they dont

We implemented the following acts:

A carlsbad decree act to weed out any liberal or anti war element from the educated classes

A wartime measures act so any deserter can be killed on sight and any dissendancy at home will be silenced. Also wartime production will sharply rise.

And let's not forget that they retired The Star Spangled Banner as the National Anthem and replaced it with "America! Fuck Yeah!"

thats like comparing the size of a chicken to a barn

Do those countries have as much influcence tho, no they dont
Wow, they do something about it, but do not count because they are not as powerful as the US. Guess what, the US is the only country as powerful as the US!

i want you to sign up for the military in america, you wouldnt last a second. they would tear you apart, chew you up, spit you out, and defacate on the remains

why do yuo think that is, its people with your ideas to blame people instead of make the problem better. americans are the only ones who action still know what pride is, its knowing right from wrong and if you dontr know that someone needs to go back to kindergarten

its better than a country whose last war that was fought was WW2 and no one remembers them because they really took no offensive action. Yep thats a great job defending your borders while were off doing the dirty work w/ Great Britan.
I'm afraid that is an incorrect statement. Canadians participated in quite a few major battles in the European theatre, including the D-Day invasion. Also, after WWII ended, the Canadian military was the fourth most powerful in the world. I suggest you check your facts before making such naive statements. I will not argue the rest of your post for I feel its naivity and uneducated nature is enough argument against it as it is.

so if theres a problem its ok to blow it up because of the U.S.? ohhh yea blame the people w/ an acctual successful nation thats real mature huh

i want you to sign up for the military in america, you wouldnt last a second. they would tear you apart, chew you up, spit you out, and defacate on the remains
You do know that we train some of your soldiers, right?
You also know that in Afganistan US soldiers were told to shoot anything that moves while Canadian soldiers had to wait until the person presented a clear threat?

you had less than 5,000 in d-day genuis we had more than 20,000. for the fourth army. we had # 1 then we still do....wheres yours?

Thats pretty funny because they are told to wait for a threat to. i have cousins and brothers there now. they are given the same orders so youd better check your facts sparky and i wont respond to anymore wishful thinking like that again

and mounties dont count

no we have basesin canada americans train americans theres a difference. we have bases in korea but americans traiin them to because they are american citzens!!!!!!

you had less than 5,000 in d-day genuis we had more than 20,000. for the fourth army. we had # 1 then we still do....wheres yours?
Once again, please check before making blind statements. I am actually an American, not a Canadian. As for the Canadian military not keeping up with the rest of the world...they really had no need to. Further, I do not see why a huge military is such a bonus. I feel all that is needed for a military is:
1. Enough to successfully defend against an invasion.
2. Enough to aid in relief efforts in natural disasters
3. Enough to participate(not necessarily lead, just participate) in actions against other nations if it is necessary, such as in the case of war declared against the U.S. or another NATO member.

That's it. Anymore than that is unnecessary and wasteful.

you had less than 5,000 in d-day genuis we had more than 20,000. for the fourth army. we had # 1 then we still do....wheres yours?
We realized that the military is a barbaric means of solving one's problems.

Thats pretty funny because they are told to wait for a threat to. i have cousins and brothers there now. they are given the same orders so youd better check your facts sparky and i wont respond to anymore wishful thinking like that again
Well, that is what Candian military personel said the US's policy was. It also was a war ago, so things may have changed.

you had less than 5,000 in d-day genuis we had more than 20,000. for the fourth army. we had # 1 then we still do....wheres yours?

The biggest reasons the United States were successful in both World Wars were:

1) It was always a fresh and fully stocked late-comer in a field where all the other combatants were exhausted and drained of resources from beating the shit out of each other years before.

and

2) The United States is located on the other side of the planet from Europe, so its population centers and industrial capabilities were unable to be touched by bombings, artillery or full-out invasion.

Bragging about the United States being the "savior" in both World Wars is like bragging about being the last wrestler to get inside the Royal Rumble and winning.

Shouldn't you be outside singing "America! Fuck Yeah!"?

ohh by the way i checked it, thats just 4th largest not 4th most effective

no we have basesin canada americans train americans theres a difference. we have bases in korea but americans traiin them to because they are american citzens!!!!!!
No, American soldiers do recieve training from Canadian instructors. Most are trained by Americans, but some of the more elite tactics are taught by Canadians.

so just because we have men and resoures were evil?

No, American soldiers do recieve training from Canadian instructors. Most are trained by Americans, but some of the more elite tactics are taught by Canadians.
I actually did not know that. I don't find it surprising though. The Canadians are renowed for being superior tacticians and incredibly vicious fighters.

...or at least, so I've heard, anyway...

have you met every single person in the U.S., because until then you dont nkow what is and isnt "holy" to us.
I'm American.

Churches are not "holy lands".

so just because we have men and resoures were evil?

No. Bragging about how America had fresh men and machines while coming into the war late is the global equivalent of Al Bundy letting us know he scored four touchdowns in a single game.

ok thats 1 canadian for ever 900 americans, theres illigalmexicans there too and people from other nations...so then why is canada special? america has more races and nationalitis than anyonther country sooo duh

I'm American.

Churches are not "holy lands".
Aye. They are places of warship, nothing more. As an athiest, I do not consider them worthy of my attention, let alone "holy."

No. Bragging about how America had fresh men and machines while coming into the war late is the global equivalent of Al Bundy letting us know he scored four touchdowns in a single game.
Al Birdy could raise hell on the football field until Peggy got to him.

I actually did not know that. I don't find it surprising though. The Canadians are renowed for being superior tacticians and incredibly vicious fighters.

...or at least, so I've heard, anyway...
Well, we have such crappy gear to work with, we need the tactics to stand a chance.

ok one ? did we beat saddam and accomplish our mission of stopping the camps there? yes we did enough said

that isnt our fault your stuff sucks

Aye. They are places of warship, nothing more. As an athiest, I do not consider them worthy of my attention, let alone "holy."
Amen :p

you entitled to you opinion but that doesnt mean your right and it does mean im right ither

ok thats 1 canadian for ever 900 americans, theres illigalmexicans there too and people from other nations...so then why is canada special? america has more races and nationalitis than anyonther country sooo duh
Canada is more accepting (we do not have influential figures telling our citizens to go out-breed them Mexicans), we also have contributed more to peace-keeping than any other nation on Earth.

i wasnt talking about peace keeping, i was talking about mixing of different cultures

Twinkle toes maghee, could you please start quoting. It is hard to see who you are replying to.

Well, we have such crappy gear to work with, we need the tactics to stand a chance.
You guys have so much excess money from excessive taxes, so surely you could afford to spend some to update your gear. I could easily see the Canadians become a force to be reckoned with again with some properly allocated spending.

Not that those taxes should have been collected in the first place and neither is the spending necessary, but that's neither here nor there.

Twinkle: Yes, but in the process you've created such severe anarchy. The Iraq war has been a bungle from the beginning. If the Bush administration had listened to the generals on the ground we wouldn't have such a problem. It was still completely unnecessary, but at least in that way it would haven't been considered a Bushnam so much as a Bushrea.

Canada is more accepting (we do not have influential figures telling our citizens to go out-breed them Mexicans), we also have contributed more to peace-keeping than any other nation on Earth.

Not to mention (at least until Bushevik Pod Person Harper has his way) they don't go out of their way to tell gay people that they can't marry and that they'll burn in Hell. And sometimes arrange to send them there personally.

And people wonder why Ian McKellen said the Bible ought to have a fiction warning.

who said"breed w/ them mexicans" name one major u.s. figure?

i wasnt talking about peace keeping, i was talking about mixing of different cultures
You asked what made us so special, not how tolerant we are of other cultures.

ill tell you nkow i dont like bush, i support our troops fighting not bush. i could really care less about him

who said"breed w/ them mexicans" name one major u.s. figure?

Not "Breed with them Mexicans," but Shrub did say "We welcome Guest Workers with no real strings attached! How else can we get our yards looking nice and our kids watched while we're out?"

if they are told to go fight then yes you better believe im going to support them

who said"breed w/ them mexicans" name one major u.s. figure?
You misread. The figures in question--Tom Snow and Bill O'Reilly I believe, along with one other I am currently not remembering--made racist statements regarding Hispanics, including one that essentially said to "outbreed" the Hispanics. Or, to rephrase so that it makes a little more sense, to have more babies than they do.

ok that ment mexicans come over the border w/ out citizenship. nothing sexual

You guys have so much excess money from excessive taxes, so surely you could afford to spend some to update your gear. I could easily see the Canadians become a force to be reckoned with again with some properly allocated spending.

Not that those taxes should have been collected in the first place and neither is the spending necessary, but that's neither here nor there.

I would rather it go to healthcare.

who said"breed w/ them mexicans" name one major u.s. figure?
He did not say, go breed with the Mexicans, but that most children under five are of Mexican decent and proceeded to tell the whites to have more babies to preserve their spot as the majority race. It was said by the guy from Fox news, his name escapes me at the moment, but he has white horseshoe-hair

ok one ? did we beat saddam and accomplish our mission of stopping the camps there? yes we did enough said
Finding WMD's was our goal, you lose.

so mexicans like sex is that bad? do you hate sex?

if you think about it terrorist can be used as wmd's smart one why does it just have tro be missles?

so you base americans one only 1 person opinion?

so mexicans like sex is that bad? do you hate sex?
No. Sex is incredibly healthy and enjoyable. I do not understand how--

Wait...you're a puppet troller, aren't you? Straughn, is that you?

I would rather it go to healthcare.

It would be better spent there, though it's still an excessive amount of money.

BUT AGAIN, that's neither here nor there. This is not the place to debate Canadian tax policy.

who care about the fox person i live in america and i could care less about him

Bragging about the United States being the "savior" in both World Wars is like bragging about being the last wrestler to get inside the Royal Rumble and winning.

lol - I like that analogy. :D

so mexicans like sex is that bad? do you hate sex?
Americans seem to think Hispanics having sex is bad. We are the ones with the more liberal view of sex.

You misread. The figures in question--Tom Snow and Bill O'Reilly I believe, along with one other I am currently not remembering--made racist statements regarding Hispanics, including one that essentially said to "outbreed" the Hispanics. Or, to rephrase so that it makes a little more sense, to have more babies than they do.

In that regards, maybe that's why they're trying to push for nationalized Abstinence-Only Sex Education. After all, it's a statistical fact that teenage pregnancies are much higher in Red States than Blues :D

if you like sex then id say shut up and move on w/ your life

We are the only people around w/ soldiers(the men and women of our military) who have the guts enough to stand up for what they believe in.

Rubbish. If this was the case, there wouldn't be any suicide bombers whatsoever.

And the rest of your rant has nothing to do with the op.

ok if you base 1 man opinion on breeding to a whole country you really dont deserve to talk

In that regards, maybe that's why they're trying to push for nationalized Abstinence-Only Sex Education. After all, it's a statistical fact that teenage pregnancies are much higher in Red States than Blues :D
Such policies are also flawed. Teens will have sex regardless of what they are told. It would make much more sense to take this into account, face reality, and make sex education about teaching them how to avoid STDs and the like, as well as make condoms and other birth control methods freely available.

But then, that would make sense, and if there's one thing people typically never do, it's make sense.

if you think about it terrorist can be used as wmd's smart one why does it just have tro be missles?
Because we were there looking for actual weapons. Did we find any? No. Were there any? Nope.

When we coulsn't find any, we changed our story and said capturing Saddam was our mission.

Terrorists use WMD's, they aren't WMD's.

You are going to lose this whole debate twinkle toes..

who care about the fox person i live in america and i could care less about him
so you base americans one only 1 person opinion?
It is so noteworthy for a reason. People believe what he says. Remember, if nobody agreed with him, he would not get ratings, and would be taken off the air. He has a large core of people who believe what he does, and he when he tells people that whites need to be the dominante race, many people make it happen.

americans dont use suicide bombers we are the ones getting it done to us

have you met every single person in the U.S., because until then you dont nkow what is and isnt "holy" to us.

Equally, have you met every single person in the US? Because until then, you don't know what is and isn't holy to them. You're just one person.

You really want that trolldom award don't you?

no thats where your wrong, it is america you can speak your mind w/out fear of punishment. its freedom of speech its in the constituion

americans dont use suicide bombers we are the ones getting it done to us
Who said you did?

Or taught you grammer?

americans dont use suicide bombers we are the ones getting it done to us
Right.. just last week I was walking in Philadelphia and the guy in front of me blew up.

ok non aligned states..who are you. if your just goin to make stupid comments that not even reavent to whats being said know then why talk?

It would be better spent there, though it's still an excessive amount of money.

BUT AGAIN, that's neither here nor there. This is not the place to debate Canadian tax policy.
Dare I make a thread? Perhaps in the morning.

no thats where your wrong, it is america you can speak your mind w/out fear of punishment. its freedom of speech its in the constituion
So if I said "I'm going to kill George Bush" Nothing would happen?

ok non aligned states..who are you. if your just goin to make stupid comments that not even reavent to whats being said know then why talk?
It is your fucking arguement.

So if I said "I'm going to kill George Bush" Nothing would happen?
People would donate to your cause.:p

Rubbish. If this was the case, there wouldn't be any suicide bombers whatsoever.

thats why i put that

ok non aligned states..who are you. if your just goin to make stupid comments that not even reavent to whats being said know then why talk?
Take your own advice, child.

Rubbish. If this was the case, there wouldn't be any suicide bombers whatsoever.

thats why i put that
Are you drunk?

so i this all you guys do at night is sit here w/ no life and complain...haha im done hearing you all complain. as for the americans in this..if you dont like it then leave the country no one is keeping yiou here

night losers

so i this all you guys do at night is sit here w/ no life and complain...haha im done hearing you all complain. as for the americans in this..if you dont like it then leave the country no one is keeping yiou here
Why should they leave because a bunch of dinks are fucking things up. They are doing the world a favor by trying to fix it.

night losers
Good night, sunshine!

so i this all you guys do at night is sit here w/ no life and complain...haha im done hearing you all complain. as for the americans in this..if you dont like it then leave the country no one is keeping yiou here
You lost, you got pwnd, so you leave to go cry in bed. Ahh the n00bs, they do entertain.

Dare I make a thread? Perhaps in the morning.
I'll do it.

Good night, sunshine!
Teehee!

*highfive*

I'll do it.
*Moves but to edge of seat*

*Moves but to edge of seat*
*refresh*
*refresh*
*refresh*
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Such policies are also flawed. Teens will have sex regardless of what they are told. It would make much more sense to take this into account, face reality, and make sex education about teaching them how to avoid STDs and the like, as well as make condoms and other birth control methods freely available.

But then, that would make sense, and if there's one thing people typically never do, it's make sense.

You missed the joke and punchline ;) They're pushing for National Abstinence-Only Sex Ed so that Americans can "Outbreed the Mexicans". :D

I don't think that those measures would improve the war. I think that the US military is probably more professional than to let mere public opinion get in the way of the completeion of their task.

:upyours: so is it ok to let a country that is training and harboring terrorists(the same place that the 9/11 terrorists were trained mind you)continue?
He said Iraq war, not Afghanistan war.

i want you to sign up for the military in america, you wouldnt last a second. they would tear you apart, chew you up, spit you out, and defacate on the remains
Jesus says no to cannibalism.

americans dont use suicide bombers we are the ones getting it done to us

What takes more courage? Pressing a button to launch a missile at someone or pressing a button to blow yourself up along with some other people?

Besides, the reason why there are suicide bombers is because they don't have cruise missiles on the cheap.


ok non aligned states..who are you. if your just goin to make stupid comments that not even reavent to whats being said know then why talk?

I'm the mirror in the wall genius. If you're saying my responses were not relevant, then it stands to reason that you're saying you're initial posts were not relevant either.

What do you know folks, a confession from a troll. He say's he's irelevant.

I don't think that those measures would improve the war. I think that the US military is probably more professional than to let mere public opinion get in the way of the completeion of their task.

Public opinion isn't the problem. It's the opinion of influential chickenhawk armchair generals like Cheney (and possibly Rumsfeld) that's getting in the way of completing the task.

You missed the joke and punchline ;) They're pushing for National Abstinence-Only Sex Ed so that Americans can "Outbreed the Mexicans". :D
OH! Now I get it. Funny stuff.
But then, even when wide awake, I often miss the punchline of jokes. As it is, I should probably go to sleep, as it is ~0300 here.

Damn. Missed the troll by a few posts. Anyone think he'll come back for another bunch of incoherent ramblings?

And more importantly, think he will try for the Troll awards? He gets points for incoherency.

Damn. Missed the troll by a few posts. Anyone think he'll come back for another bunch of incoherent ramblings?

And more importantly, think he will try for the Troll awards? He gets points for incoherency.
He fails completely on humor though. I give him about a 64% so far.

Damn. Missed the troll by a few posts. Anyone think he'll come back for another bunch of incoherent ramblings?

And more importantly, think he will try for the Troll awards? He gets points for incoherency.

Doubt it. To top the current world champion UN Abassadorship would require something that actually gets you banned from the forum permanently.

He fails completely on humor though. I give him about a 64% so far.

Hmmm, I suppose, but if he keeps up on infantile humor, it might earn him some points. And if he gets a perma ban, how will he ever win? Would it be like the Darwin Awards and delivered post-humous? :p

Hmmm, I suppose, but if he keeps up on infantile humor, it might earn him some points. And if he gets a perma ban, how will he ever win? Would it be like the Darwin Awards and delivered post-humous? :p
Possibly. I'd give him an honorable mention at most, though.

Doubt it. To top the current world champion UN Abassadorship would require something that actually gets you banned from the forum permanently.
I dunno, if he gets a few thousand posts, I think he could rival UN. UN does have a few thousand posts, right?

I dunno, if he gets a few thousand posts, I think he could rival UN. UN does have a few thousand posts, right?

But numbers can't compare to the brilliance of declaring one's willingness to taste Dick Cheney's nipple or to fellate Bush literally.

I dunno, if he gets a few thousand posts, I think he could rival UN. UN does have a few thousand posts, right?
Only because his master has always stayed safely between the lines of the law and not gotten his puppet DEAT'd. I, unfortunately, was unable to duplicate that feat. :(

Wow, overnight my topic was reduced to a flame war by an illiterate noob named Twinkle Toes Maghee. Maybe I should have been more clear. Basically, what if America took WWII like measures to fight the war in Iraq? We have seen vietnam and its political mess so I thought to myself, maybe America should have kept its anti war protestors down. Thats why I love NS, topic become instantly filled with posts provided it taps on a sensitive political issue.

We implemented the following acts:

A carlsbad decree act to weed out any liberal or anti war element from the educated classes

A wartime measures act so any deserter can be killed on sight and any dissendancy at home will be silenced. Also wartime production will sharply rise.

So you want to turn it into a Goldwater&LeMay-esque totalitarian state?

Yes, there's a reason why people turned away from Goldwater in the '68 election. I believe his credo was 'Shoot all the hippies, win the war by nuking Vietnam, restore order via martial law'

This post is the TRUTH about Iraq. If you disagree with it you're wrong.

1) We never should have gone into Iraq. Iraq was a stable, secular government that we could have done business with and slowly pressured into becomming a more liberal and democratic place. Invading Iraq was the dumbest move possible. No good will ever come of it.

2) If we were going to invade we should have put enough troops in Iraq to act as police and military personell for the Iraqi nation until it could be stabilized and rebuilt. That would require at least three hundred thousand US troops and way more money than we've spent already.

3) Now that we're there the best we can do is minimize long term threats emmanating from Iraq.

4) To do that we need to increase troop presence and weed out the insurgents. Then we can pull out.

5) There will be a civil war when we leave. That's inevitable. If we follow the advice in number 4, the war will be short and the government we've installed will probably win it.

6) Iraq will be anti-american when we leave. The government may buy arms from us and sell us oil, but the people will either be sunnis who will hate us for taking away their special rights and privelages or Shiites who will see Iran as a kindred nation and ally.

This post is the TRUTH about Iraq. If you disagree with it you're wrong.

1) We never should have gone into Iraq. Iraq was a stable, secular government that we could have done business with and slowly pressured into becomming a more liberal and democratic place. Invading Iraq was the dumbest move possible. No good will ever come of it.

2) If we were going to invade we should have put enough troops in Iraq to act as police and military personell for the Iraqi nation until it could be stabilized and rebuilt. That would require at least three hundred thousand US troops and way more money than we've spent already.

3) Now that we're there the best we can do is minimize long term threats emmanating from Iraq.

4) To do that we need to increase troop presence and weed out the insurgents. Then we can pull out.

5) There will be a civil war when we leave. That's inevitable. If we follow the advice in number 4, the war will be short and the government we've installed will probably win it.

6) Iraq will be anti-american when we leave. The government may buy arms from us and sell us oil, but the people will either be sunnis who will hate us for taking away their special rights and privelages or Shiites who will see Iran as a kindred nation and ally.

Yep. All makes sense except #4. You get more troops, but how do youy weed out the insurgents? Seriously, do you have a plan? I don't think you'll ever get them all, as they're essentially like weeds; grab a few from the garden but they keep coming back.

Yep. All makes sense except #4. You get more troops, but how do youy weed out the insurgents? Seriously, do you have a plan? I don't think you'll ever get them all, as they're essentially like weeds; grab a few from the garden but they keep coming back.

4 is kinda self contradictory.

But as for the rest, blunt realism is needed now. I only wish people higher up began thinking like this and preparing for the next 20-25 years of shit that has spawned from this.

Yep. All makes sense except #4. You get more troops, but how do youy weed out the insurgents? Seriously, do you have a plan? I don't think you'll ever get them all, as they're essentially like weeds; grab a few from the garden but they keep coming back.
If you have enough troops you can conduct effective house to house searches for weapons and insurgents. You can disrupt their activities and weaken them. You'll never get rid of all of them, but with overwhelming numbers of alert soldiers keeping their eyes and ears open you can weaken them so that the Iraqi government can destroy them in the subsequent civil war.

If you have enough troops you can conduct effective house to house searches for weapons and insurgents. You can disrupt their activities and weaken them. You'll never get rid of all of them, but with overwhelming numbers of alert soldiers keeping their eyes and ears open you can weaken them so that the Iraqi government can destroy them in the subsequent civil war.

Hmm, guess so, but won't that just create more hatred and more insurgents from people that are turned against US soldiers as they raid the homes?

Hmm, guess so, but won't that just create more hatred and more insurgents from people that are turned against US soldiers as they raid the homes?
Yes it will, but that hatred wouldn't necessarily transfer over to the Iraqi government. When the US leaves the anti-us but pro-Iraq insurgents won't have an enemy to fight.

Yes it will, but that hatred wouldn't necessarily transfer over to the Iraqi government. When the US leaves the anti-us but pro-Iraq insurgents won't have an enemy to fight.
but you'll end up with more people willing to martyr themselve to get a couple of americans.

Yes it will, but that hatred wouldn't necessarily transfer over to the Iraqi government. When the US leaves the anti-us but pro-Iraq insurgents won't have an enemy to fight.
It can very well transfer over the Iraqi government -- 'American stooges', 'servants of infidel dogs', etc. (The Chechen insurgents, for example, hate the present Chechen government...) But it will be the problem of the Iraqi government.

but you'll end up with more people willing to martyr themselve to get a couple of americans.
Well it's not like we can avoid that now. The Iraq situation has to end and it has to end in a stable government. After that we can work on capturing or assasinating terrorists and disrupting their operations.

It can very well transfer over the Iraqi government -- 'American stooges', 'servants of infidel dogs', etc. (The Chechen insurgents, for example, hate the present Chechen government...) But it will be the problem of the Iraqi government.
Right, and they'll be facing insurgents weakened by having their experienced members hunted down and killed and theri weapons caches raided and confiscated by a massive US force just before the coalition leaves. Those insurgents should be easier to mop up.

Sorta tricky to try and crush rebellion/insurgents/any underground movement with brute force. It's been tried many, many times (Rome vs Christians, British vs Irish, Russians vs Chechnyans (sp?))

Pouring troops in won't work, you need to try and stop the insurgents wanting to kill people in the first place. Diplomacy is the way forwards.

To come back to Ireland, the British sent the SAS in, and they arrested loads of people. Yet the troubles still persisted. It's only when the peace process really took off that things calmed down.

Sorta tricky to try and crush rebellion/insurgents/any underground movement with brute force. It's been tried many, many times (Rome vs Christians, British vs Irish, Russians vs Chechnyans (sp?))

Pouring troops in won't work, you need to try and stop the insurgents wanting to kill people in the first place. Diplomacy is the way forwards.

To come back to Ireland, the British sent the SAS in, and they arrested loads of people. Yet the troubles still persisted. It's only when the peace process really took off that things calmed down.
You're missing something. The increase in US troops isn't intended to destroy the insurgency, just weaken it significantly in the short term. Then we withdraw. This removes the main complaint of many of the insurgents. The Iraqi government is left with militarily weakened insurgents with whom it can use diplomacy from a position of power or it can use it's soldiers, police and intelligence officers to hunt them down over the long term.

But doesn't killing/arresting insurgents in droves just create ill feeling? Which will then be taken out on the militarily less secure gorvernment that is in place when the Americans leave?

But doesn't killing/arresting insurgents in droves just create ill feeling? Which will then be taken out on the militarily less secure gorvernment that is in place when the Americans leave?
Not necessarily. The Iraqi government can use the tactic that all Arab governments use. Claim innocence and blame the USA.

Not necessarily. The Iraqi government can use the tactic that all Arab governments use. Claim innocence and blame the USA.
Except this time it will actually be true :D