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What is the most respect source of UK news?

Xandabia
18-05-2006, 18:09
Where do you get your UK news?

BBC
The Times
The Telegraph
The Guardian
Sky
I V Stalin
18-05-2006, 18:10
The Guardian (newspaper) the BBC (website) and Channel 4 and Newsnight (TV).

As for most respected - the Guardian has won a shedload of awards recently, but its circulation is only around 400,000. The Independent has a small readership (lower than the Guardian), but is fairly well respected. I hope it lost some when Bono guest-edited it, though. The Sun sells about 5 million copies a day, while the Daily Mail manages 3.5 to 4 million. Depends what you're basing respect on.

The Times and Telegraph have larger readerships, mainly because they're more right wing than the Guardian and Indy. The Times is almost turning into a slightly less extreme version of the Daily Mail. The Telegraph is nicknamed the Torygraph - go figure.

The BBC is (supposedly) impartial, and has good coverage. No apparent political bias, and if there is, it's small.

Channel 4 is great for a detailed look at issues, plus issues that aren't covered so much by other networks. It's slightly left wing. Newsnight, being a BBC program, is impartial, but has very good interviews and coverage of issues.
Xandabia
18-05-2006, 18:12
Sorry pressed the button to publish instead of the button to preview.
Pure Metal
18-05-2006, 18:14
i respect the BBC and the Times


you should have put the Mail as a joke option ;)
Infinite Revolution
18-05-2006, 18:15
i tend to get my news from the bbc website (my 'home' page) and from channel 4 news. i like the way channel four really takes the piss when they think people are being stupid. used to buy the guardian but i find newspapers to be far too partisan for me to take them seriously as news sources. not to say that tv and internet newssources are much better but i think the bbc and channel four are the most impartial and least sensationalist.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:16
Go Guardian! WOO!
Skinny87
18-05-2006, 18:21
i respect the BBC and the Times


you should have put the Mail as a joke option ;)

The Daily Mail is serious! How else could we know about the evils of illegal immigrants, and black people, and yoghurt?
AB Again
18-05-2006, 18:23
Why do you think the BBC is known as Auntie? The BBC is about as politically neutral as a news source can be. (My aunts knew absolutely nothing about politics. :) )
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:25
Why do you think the BBC is known as Auntie? The BBC is about as politically neutral as a news source can be. (My aunts knew absolutely nothing about politics. :) )

I've never head it reffered to as auntie. Maybe in your part of the country...
The Free Gaels
18-05-2006, 18:25
Channel 4 for me.
L-rouge
18-05-2006, 18:27
Liasia']I've never head it reffered to as auntie. Maybe in your part of the country...
You never watched Aunties Bloomers?
Skinny87
18-05-2006, 18:28
Liasia']I've never head it reffered to as auntie. Maybe in your part of the country...

It's an older name - 'Auntie Beeb'. Heard a lot during the Second World War and until about the '70's or so. It's still used, just not as popular now.
Infinite Revolution
18-05-2006, 18:29
Liasia']I've never head it reffered to as auntie. Maybe in your part of the country...
i have, although i though it refered to the fact that was supposed to be like another family member providing you with entertainment and information from when the bbc was the only thing on telly - so it really refered to the tv but was used for the bbc.
Nadkor
18-05-2006, 18:31
BBC, Channel 4...The Guardian, The Times.

Nice spread.
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 18:32
Ugh, I used to love the Guardian. But now... it just seems shit. Too much popular culture, snobbery, and generally not covering any issue I'm remotely interested in (ok, that's an exageration, but my point stands). Though its the first newspaper I ever read avidly, and I can't bare to forget about it. :(

The Independent normally run a great cover story, but that's it.

Most news is biased, so why would I want to read news that is coloured by a bias that contrary to my own? No, I don't read the Torygraph.

Sky and the Times are owned by Murdoch, and thus I do not consider them respectable. Nor have I ever respected Sky since they seemingly tried to turn 9/11 into some sort of action film, with their choice of music, which was played constantly throughout the item. If you're that commercial to play mood music throughout a report on such an event then fuck you.

My favoured news sources are C4 News and Newsnight. Unfortunately I do not have a TV and have had to make do without for quite some time. Jon Snow, Jeremy Paxman and Gavin Esler. <3
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:34
You never watched Aunties Bloomers?

Not old enough, i suspect. I think i'v heard of it maybe.
Turquoise Days
18-05-2006, 18:34
The Daily Wail is serious! How else could we know about the evils of illegal immigrants, and black people, and yoghurt?
Edited for accuracy. :)

I trust the BBC, Grauniad, and the Indy. Channel 4 News is pretty good, and Newsnight is the best magazine show.
L-rouge
18-05-2006, 18:35
Liasia']Not old enough, i suspect. I think i'v heard of it maybe.
Might do it. It was quite funny, all the bloopers from BBC shows hosted by Terry Wogan. Not bad.:D
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 18:36
Why do you think the BBC is known as Auntie? The BBC is about as politically neutral as a news source can be. (My aunts knew absolutely nothing about politics. :) )Are you implying that not only no news is good news, but no news cannot be biased either?

*sighs* Unrelatedly, but if there's one way to distroy your faith in humanity, then it is to watch BBC Parliament. Those are the people who run our country... it's depressing. A playgroup is more civilised than the house of commons.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:38
Are you implying that not only no news is good news, but no news cannot be biased either?

*sighs* Unrelatedly, but if there's one way to distroy your faith in humanity, then it is to watch BBC Parliament. Those are the people who run our country... it's depressing. A playgroup is more civilised than the house of commons.

Still a hell of a lot more civilized than the australian parliament, and to be fair it is quite well regulated. You can't call the opposition a bunch of tossers and get away with it.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:39
Might do it. It was quite funny, all the bloopers from BBC shows hosted by Terry Wogan. Not bad.:D

When was it on, year-wise?
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 18:40
Liasia']Still a hell of a lot more civilized than the australian parliament, and to be fair it is quite well regulated. You can't call the opposition a bunch of tossers and get away with it.You can't say directly that they are tossers, but you can easily insinuate that they are.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:43
You can't say directly that they are tossers, but you can easily insinuate that they are.

So you can say they are tossers, but in a civilized manner.
Turquoise Days
18-05-2006, 18:45
You can't say directly that they are tossers, but you can easily insinuate that they are.... it is alleged.
Nadkor
18-05-2006, 18:45
Liasia']When was it on, year-wise?
Late 90s, early 00s?

I remember it well and I'm 20, if that helps.
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 18:47
Liasia']So you can say they are tossers, but in a civilized manner.No, it still isn't civilised, there is constant bickering, absolutely no respect what-so-ever. The Speaker has to have steroids injected into his larynx just to be able to make himself heard above the din that the rest of the MPs make.
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 18:47
... it is alleged.die :p
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:49
No, it still isn't civilised, there is constant bickering, absolutely no respect what-so-ever. The Speaker has to have steroids injected into his larynx just to be able to make himself heard above the din that the rest of the MPs make.

I think its fun:p
Much more interesting than it would be if they all stayed quiet.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:49
Late 90s, early 00s?

I remember it well and I'm 20, if that helps.

Meh, im 17 and I don't.
Little India
18-05-2006, 18:51
The BBC every time - you can't beat it.
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 18:53
Liasia']I think its fun:p
Much more interesting than it would be if they all stayed quiet.It's not supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be productive. Prime Minister's question time is the biggest waste of time ever. Except when I'm in the mood to see Blair getting lambasted... expect both Menzies and Campbell are incompetant in that respect so instead of Blair getting his arse handed to him, they get theirs handed to them... it makes the whole situation even more depressing.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 18:55
It's not supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be productive. Prime Minister's question time is the biggest waste of time ever. Except when I'm in the mood to see Blair getting lambasted... expect both Menzies and Campbell are incompetant in that respect so instead of Blair getting his arse handed to him, they get theirs handed to them... it makes the whole situation even more depressing.

Handy sometimes though too. It can show where the Pm and ministers are weak. Besides, its obviously quite productive as it's worked for all this time.
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 19:00
Liasia']Handy sometimes though too. It can show where the Pm and ministers are weak. Besides, its obviously quite productive as it's worked for all this time.Parliamentarians are all conservative at heart. Who'd want to change the system you just got elected to. The system hasn't been changed because they're all too stupid to figure out a better system. Intellect is hardly a job requirement for MP.

Wow, I'm really ranting today. Hmmm.
Not bad
18-05-2006, 19:02
I loikes the gruniad, it makes I larff
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 19:03
Parliamentarians are all conservative at heart. Who'd want to change the system you just got elected to. The system hasn't been changed because they're all too stupid to figure out a better system. Intellect is hardly a job requirement for MP.

Wow, I'm really ranting today. Hmmm.

That's a bit harsh.
Lololita
18-05-2006, 19:14
I'm not even Brittish and I love the BBC!

I really like that the BBC covers world wide news. Almost no American broadcasting companies focus on news outside of the US.

Of coures I don't know much about the other Brittish news sources so I can't really vote.

I guess the fact that American news is only about America is a sign that we are more self-obsessed than other countries-- or perhaps just more ignorant of other cultures.

It also might be because the US is so big-- a lot can happen in this one country.
Still, I doubt that is it.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 19:16
I'm surprised people can even get any news from the American channels. I watched CNN while i was on holiday, and it was literally 3/4 ad breaks. I mean WTF?
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 19:16
Liasia']That's a bit harsh.Hardly... well maybe for the back benchers. I guess the back benchers can be cool.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 19:17
Hardly... well maybe for the back benchers. I guess the back benchers can be cool.

YEH! party at the backbencher's house!:p
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 19:23
*Remembers his MP from his home address*

Yeah, backbenchers can be cool.
Red Shire
18-05-2006, 19:35
The BBC for me, though also The Guardian.
I V Stalin
18-05-2006, 19:36
I loikes the gruniad, it makes I larff
I'm guessing you're a denizen of the west country.
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 19:43
I'm guessing you're a denizen of the west country.I thought gruniad was reference to Private Eye's name for the guardian. Something about all the typos it used to have.
Turquoise Days
18-05-2006, 19:46
I thought gruniad was reference to Private Eye's name for the guardian. Something about all the typos it used to have.
It was the comedy accent that gave it away. Although I reckon he's an impostor, as he spelt Oi, I.
[NS]Liasia
18-05-2006, 19:48
I thought gruniad was reference to Private Eye's name for the guardian. Something about all the typos it used to have.

Private eye rules *nods*
The Infinite Dunes
18-05-2006, 19:49
It was the comedy accent that gave it away. Although I reckon he's an impostor, as he spelt Oi, I.Hmmm, yes, you're right. The Cornish never use the perpendicular pronoun, not even as a replacement for 'me'.
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 19:49
I like BBC because it's red. Noticed the colour of its poll bar? My trick....
New Burmesia
18-05-2006, 19:53
BBC. Impartial, good news and informative, unlike the right wing Rupert Murdoch/Daily Mail (or Heil!) media conglomerates.

Parliamentarians are all conservative at heart. Who'd want to change the system you just got elected to. The system hasn't been changed because they're all too stupid to figure out a better system. Intellect is hardly a job requirement for MP.

Unfortunately true. They're all conservative at heart because they got bloated wages and expenses (courtesy of the taxpayer) and can afford whatever public schools and private education they want, although this is far more true of the now bloated executive in Parliament than backbenchers.

Secondly, intellect isn't required either. (Example: Patricia Hewett). Since the results of the election is decided by around 50 key marginals anyway, and the remaining 596 are safe, all they need is a media-friendly candidate with a few party pre prepared one liners to win. Of course, this is a generalisation, and not always true, but it's these people who make it into the cabinet+executive posts, it seems.
Derrania
18-05-2006, 21:13
The Guardian for me. It does have a slight leftist bias in its editorials, but the comments pages cover a good range of political opinion - they've run columns by Michael Howard and William Hague for instance - and they're nowhere near as partizan as the Times or Telegraph, both of which just make me cringe.
Zispin
18-05-2006, 21:22
The BBC for me. Their website is easy to navigate, and their TV news is good as well. Then there's BBCi...

/me doesn't actually mind paying her TV licence, but wishes it was slightly cheaper

As for newspapers, I read whatever's around. The Metro normally. It's ok- I follow up any interesting stories on the BBC website :P
Xandabia
19-05-2006, 16:58
I felt sorry for the Torygraph, I mean Telegraph so i voted for it even if it is a little too far right for me sometimes. It is after all the Uk's best-selling newspaper(I'm not counting comics like the Sun). It does also have the Alex cartoon strip which is the funniest around.

I resent having to pay for the BBC even if I don't use it (I pay Mr Murdoch for my tv content). I would prefer it to be more rigourously impartial.

my favourite newspaper is actually The Scotsman but it doesn't have a very big circulation outside Edinburgh & Glasgow.
BogMarsh
19-05-2006, 16:59
The Times.
Obviously.
Europaland
19-05-2006, 17:10
I rely on the BBC, Channel 4, Guardian/Observer and Morning Star for UK news (and the Herald/Sunday Herald and Scottish Socialist Voice for Scottish news) although out of all of them I'd say the Guardian is the one I trust the most for providing fair and balanced coverage.
Xandabia
19-05-2006, 17:21
The Times does have undisputably the best crossword
Harmoneia
19-05-2006, 17:23
I watch BBC, because none of those are available/accessible here in my country.
Xandabia
19-05-2006, 17:26
www.timesonline.co.uk
www.telegraph.co.uk
www.scotsman.com
Kellarly
19-05-2006, 17:31
I usually read either the Independent or my home town paper the Guardian (The Manchester Guardian as it originally was :D )

That said, I prefer the Indy as the Guardian's comments page has a tendency to go right off the fricken wall on occasions...

As for TV Channel 4 News and Newsnight. I avoid BBC/ITV main news, esp. ITV as it's as bad as the Mail and Sun at sensationalising things...
Disputa
19-05-2006, 17:34
Sky and BBC are on equal scales for me. As regards newspaper I prefer the Times and the Telegraph, because they have the journalists capable of writing actual commentaries.

The Economist is however the perfect hybrid of politics and economics, I just have to love it.
Xandabia
19-05-2006, 17:35
I agree with you about ITV news - it's like the Daily Mail's TV show
Kellarly
19-05-2006, 17:37
I agree with you about ITV news - it's like the Daily Mail's TV show

Yeah, I mean like we care what 'Barry from Southampton' thinks about paedophiles or speed cameras, I just want to know whats happening without comment, but no, tabloid news is the way things are heading :(
Xandabia
19-05-2006, 17:38
Sky and BBC are on equal scales for me. As regards newspaper I prefer the Times and the Telegraph, because they have the journalists capable of writing actual commentaries.

The Economist is however the perfect hybrid of politics and economics, I just have to love it.

I love the Economist although I think it is often a little uncritical in its support for all things US.
Hyperspatial Travel
19-05-2006, 17:41
BBC. Although I'm not from Britain, I still use it over most news sources, that, and it has damned good shows compared to the ABC.