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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece

I said in a thread recently that if you want to learn more about how human societies came to be, it was important to look at the apes. And monkeys.




''Previously, animal communication systems were considered to lack examples in which call combinations carried meanings that were different to the sum of the meanings of the constituent elements,'' she said.

''This is the first good example of calls being combined in meaningful ways. The implications of this research are that primates, at least, may be able to ignore the usual relationship between an individual call and any meaning that it might convey under certain circumstances,'' Dr Arnold added.

"Monkeys frickin talk!" Dr Arnold continued.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/a-man27/wtf-monkey.jpg

Hehe, not really WTF. I knew that monkeys and apes are able to communicate with each other - I'm not sure that they are able to talk, though. Their glottis ain't developed to do that...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/a-man27/wtf-monkey.jpg

Hehe, not really WTF. I knew that monkeys and apes are able to communicate with each other - I'm not sure that they are able to talk, though. Their glottis ain't developed to do that...
Well, they haven't gotten to the point of inviting each other over for tea...

Give some love to the speechifying monkeys.

i prefer monkey communication through fecal matter.

it gets your point across, know what i mean?

i prefer monkey communication through fecal matter.

it gets your point across, know what i mean?
I cannot answer on a moderated forum.

I cannot answer on a moderated forum.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Yup, and dolphins have recognizable names.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/09/dolphins.names.reut/

It would seem that, the more we study, the less clear the "line" between human and beast becomes....

Yup, and dolphins have recognizable names.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/09/dolphins.names.reut/

It would seem that, the more we study, the less clear the "line" between human and beast becomes....
I wonder what dolphins call us?

I wonder what dolphins call us?

Probably jackasses, for putting them in aquariums and all. :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/a-man27/wtf-monkey.jpg

All I could think of was Buckwheat.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/a-man27/wtf-monkey.jpg

Hehe, not really WTF. I knew that monkeys and apes are able to communicate with each other - I'm not sure that they are able to talk, though. Their glottis ain't developed to do that...
Why the fuck aren't orangutans sold as pets? Who wouldn't want one of those little bastards hanging around? I'm sure if they were a valuable pet store commodity they wouldn't be endangered anymore either.

Monkeys talk, eh?

So, I wonder what the fundamentalists will say about this. This proves that evolution does indeed exist...

Monkeys talk, eh?

So, I wonder what the fundamentalists will say about this. This proves that evolution does indeed exist...
That's just microevolution. The fact is that monkeys and people aren't all that different. Monkeys are just fuzzy little retarded people. Macroevolution, like dinosaurs turning into birds, hasn't been proved /Jesussaves

That's just microevolution. The fact is that monkeys and people aren't all that different. Monkeys are just fuzzy little retarded people. Macroevolution, like dinosaurs turning into birds, hasn't been proved /Jesussaves
So? I can turn into a squawking nincompoop... I bet that Jesussaves would say that such evolution hasn't been proven, thus impossible.

That's just microevolution. The fact is that monkeys and people aren't all that different. Monkeys are just fuzzy little retarded people. Macroevolution, like dinosaurs turning into birds, hasn't been proved /Jesussaves

Monkeys aren't people! People are better than monkeys! We have morals and ethics and language, I mean, well, better language!

Monkeys aren't people! People are better than monkeys! We have morals and ethics and language, I mean, well, better language!

And opposable thumbs! No, wait...Damn.

Why the fuck aren't orangutans sold as pets? Who wouldn't want one of those little bastards hanging around? I'm sure if they were a valuable pet store commodity they wouldn't be endangered anymore either.

They are. Taiwan and China has an illegal trade on them.

They are. Taiwan and China has an illegal trade on them.
What? The Chicoms have orangutans and we don't? Do you know what this means? There's an orangutan gap! We must immediately begin stockpiling orangutans for our national defense!

It's well known that monkeys post on NationStates General. So this news does not surprise me.

Now, whether or not they can spell, or argue logically...

It's well known that monkeys post on NationStates General. So this news does not surprise me.

Now, whether or not they can spell, or argue logically...

Wow. How many monkey's live in Virgina? :p

Wow. How many monkey's live in Virgina? :p
Not many, now. Herndon cleaned up their immigration problems.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece

I said in a thread recently that if you want to learn more about how human societies came to be, it was important to look at the apes. And monkeys.




''Previously, animal communication systems were considered to lack examples in which call combinations carried meanings that were different to the sum of the meanings of the constituent elements,'' she said.

''This is the first good example of calls being combined in meaningful ways. The implications of this research are that primates, at least, may be able to ignore the usual relationship between an individual call and any meaning that it might convey under certain circumstances,'' Dr Arnold added.

"Monkeys frickin talk!" Dr Arnold continued.

Cats can talk. Ours tell us when they want to be fed, when it is time to clean their litter box, and when they want to be petted. :eek:

How long before those damn dirty apes pick up guns and take over?

http://farm.tucows.com/images/2005/12/humane_interface/language_war_monkey_knife_fight.jpg

How long before those damn dirty apes pick up guns and take over?
About 12 minutes.

Monkeys aren't people! People are better than monkeys! We have morals and ethics and language, I mean, well, better language!
The bestest language eva!

Cats can talk. Ours tell us when they want to be fed, when it is time to clean their litter box, and when they want to be petted. :eek:
But do they use syntax?

Cats can talk. Ours tell us when they want to be fed, when it is time to clean their litter box, and when they want to be petted.

They communicate, but they don't talk. Or perhaps they do? I don't know never met them. Anyway animals must be able to talk because it says they do in the bible/dreamtime legends/Narnia.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece

I said in a thread recently that if you want to learn more about how human societies came to be, it was important to look at the apes. And monkeys.




''Previously, animal communication systems were considered to lack examples in which call combinations carried meanings that were different to the sum of the meanings of the constituent elements,'' she said.

''This is the first good example of calls being combined in meaningful ways. The implications of this research are that primates, at least, may be able to ignore the usual relationship between an individual call and any meaning that it might convey under certain circumstances,'' Dr Arnold added.

"Monkeys frickin talk!" Dr Arnold continued.
I believe the lyrics are 'Money talks'...

I believe the lyrics are 'Money talks'...
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

You know, sentient in greek literally meant 'able to sense and feel emotion', if I recall correctly. While it may not mean exactly that today, I think it is fairly obvious that animals feel emotion, so technically, animals are sentient in the origional meaning of the word, and this just about proves that monkey's, at least, (and probably several other mammal species) are sentient in the new sense!

i prefer monkey communication through fecal matter.

it gets your point across, know what i mean?

Monkey talks, bullshit walks. :)

"Monkeys frickin talk!" Dr Arnold continued.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the Planet of the Apes.

Than again, Dogs, Cats, and every animal talks and communicates.

Why the fuck aren't orangutans sold as pets? Who wouldn't want one of those little bastards hanging around? I'm sure if they were a valuable pet store commodity they wouldn't be endangered anymore either.

Go to Africa my friend. You can buy damn near any animal you want. Although you do have to smuggle it through Mexico to get it in the US.

This aint news.

The bastards can even learn different languages,

Many apes and primates have been taught american sign language, and many have vocabularies of over 200 words.

They communicate freely with each other and thier observers.
In the Animal Planet documentary "Why Chimpanzes Cry, and why Dogs Smile", one chimp even offered sympathy to a greiving woman who had recently miscarried.

The lady was working with the chimps three to four days a week, and when the woman was absent for a few days the matriarchal chimp was offended at her not coming around, until the woman signed to her "Im sorry Ive been away, my baby died."

The chimp signed back, "Lose baby, Cry."

The chimp had also lost a child, and was sympathizing with the woman.

Primates, Gorrillas, Chimps, Orangatuans etc are FAR smarter than we give them credit for.

It's all about me.

It's all about me.


No no...Monkeys..not the pimps thereof.

We KNOW Monkeypimps cant talk.

Eddie Izzard was right

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article485884.ece

I said in a thread recently that if you want to learn more about how human societies came to be, it was important to look at the apes. And monkeys.




''Previously, animal communication systems were considered to lack examples in which call combinations carried meanings that were different to the sum of the meanings of the constituent elements,'' she said.

''This is the first good example of calls being combined in meaningful ways. The implications of this research are that primates, at least, may be able to ignore the usual relationship between an individual call and any meaning that it might convey under certain circumstances,'' Dr Arnold added.

"Monkeys frickin talk!" Dr Arnold continued.
Give 'em another fifteen million years. We'll have another few sentient speices on our hands.

This aint news.

The bastards can even learn different languages,

Many apes and primates have been taught american sign language, and many have vocabularies of over 200 words.

They communicate freely with each other and thier observers.
In the Animal Planet documentary "Why Chimpanzes Cry, and why Dogs Smile", one chimp even offered sympathy to a greiving woman who had recently miscarried.

The lady was working with the chimps three to four days a week, and when the woman was absent for a few days the matriarchal chimp was offended at her not coming around, until the woman signed to her "Im sorry Ive been away, my baby died."

The chimp signed back, "Lose baby, Cry."

The chimp had also lost a child, and was sympathizing with the woman.

Primates, Gorrillas, Chimps, Orangatuans etc are FAR smarter than we give them credit for.
But this was observed in the wild. That's what makes it news. We knew they were capable but didn't know how far they used that capability without human training.

Why the fuck aren't orangutans sold as pets? Who wouldn't want one of those little bastards hanging around? I'm sure if they were a valuable pet store commodity they wouldn't be endangered anymore either.
Thats exactly why they are endangered...
Asians keep killing the moms and taking the babies so people can have them as pets...

Thats exactly why they are endangered...
Asians keep killing the moms and taking the babies so people can have them as pets...

I need to support that trade. I need an orangutang!

That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
AC/DC - Money Talks Lyrics
Tailored suits, chauffeured cars
Fine hotels and big cigars
Up for grabs, all for a price
Where the red hot girls
Keep on dancin' through the night

The claim is on you
The sights are on me
So what do you do, that's guaranteed
Hey little girl, you want it all
The furs, the diamonds, the paintings on the wall

Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk
Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk

A French maid, foreign chef
A big house, with king size bed
You had enough, you ship 'em out
The dollars up, down, you better buy the pound

The claim is on you
The sights are on me
So what do you do, that's guaranteed
Hey little girl, you break the laws
You hustle, you deal, you steal from us all

Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk
Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk

Moneytalks
Moneytalks
B.S. walks
Money talks
Come on, come on

Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk
Come on, come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the moneytalk

I need to support that trade. I need an orangutang!
In Soviet Russia Orangutang needs you!

In Soviet Russia Orangutang needs you!

Hmm... Being an orangutang's pet human...

Nahhh.

Hmm... Being an orangutang's pet human...

Nahhh.
Oh go on.

Oh go on.

I'm convinced!

To the Monkey-Cave!

I'm convinced!

To the Monkey-Cave!
*Notches one up for Stalin's Ape Army*

I thought they spoke with the whole signing thing? Not the same as humans, not American Sign, but I heard scientists are actually developing a Monkey Sign, I have a deaf friend who told us that.

Here is my answer to all the animal questions-- They don't use tools so they must be stoopid (not stupid). Whales and dolphins sounds are too complex for people to understand and they got bigger brains than us, but they can't use tools so they must be stoopid. This is nothing new. Dolphins can recognize each other by specific sounds. Monkeys signal each other with different sounds, but it couldn't possibly be language until we decide it is language.

Correct me if im wrong, but is this news actually new?

To say monkeys can talk because of limited communication and recognition of words is like saying humans can fly because we found someone who can do 2 meters on a high jump.

Here is my answer to all the animal questions-- They don't use tools so they must be stoopid (not stupid). Whales and dolphins sounds are too complex for people to understand and they got bigger brains than us, but they can't use tools so they must be stoopid. This is nothing new. Dolphins can recognize each other by specific sounds. Monkeys signal each other with different sounds, but it couldn't possibly be language until we decide it is language.


What the hell are you talking about?

What the hell are you talking about?
I wonder if he can use tools?

I thought they spoke with the whole signing thing? Not the same as humans, not American Sign, but I heard scientists are actually developing a Monkey Sign, I have a deaf friend who told us that.
Again, that is through training by humans.

I'll be damned. So...the old monks were right after all...

Student: Does a dog<monkey or any other animal> have a Buddha Nature?
Master: Maybe...you tell me.

ook oook ooooook?

ook ook

ook?

I wonder if he can use tools?

I wonder if he is a tool...

I thought they spoke with the whole signing thing? Not the same as humans, not American Sign, but I heard scientists are actually developing a Monkey Sign, I have a deaf friend who told us that.

They have been using ASL for chimps and the Bonobo Kanzi has a symbols keyboard for communication.....

I'll be damned. So...the old monks were right after all...

Student: Does a dog<monkey or any other animal> have a Buddha Nature?
Master: Maybe...you tell me.
I thought the answer was "Mu" which means neither no nor yes and somehow both at the same time. That's the closest I've come to understanding that word. And it's probably wrong.