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You lost, get over it...oh wait, someone is going to jail for election tampering

Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 09:59
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-05-18T002959Z_01_N17336879_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-REPUBLICANS-NEWHAMPSHIRE.xml&archived=False

A senior official in U.S. President George W. Bush's re-election campaign was sentenced to 10 months in prison on Wednesday for his role in suppressing votes in a key U.S. Senate race, a scandal that Democrats charge may involve the White House.

You know, it just keeps coming and coming, doesn't it? Not an arrest, not an indictment, but a GUILTY VERDICT.

No one can claim that this is media hype.

No one can claim that this is a witchhunt by Democrats.

No one can bitch and moan about Democrats being bad sports/poor losers in this case.

Now, let's see where the trail leads from here, shall we? I wouldn't be surprised if this went up higher.
Quagmus
18-05-2006, 11:26
Somebody needs a fresh war or a monumental terrorist attack FAST!
Skinny87
18-05-2006, 11:28
Somebody needs a freh war or a monumental terrorist attack FAST!

Invasion of Iran in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 11:43
Iran might be too hard of a target. What about Venezuela?
Dark-dragon
18-05-2006, 11:50
i got a better idea how about france they surrender fast and have proven wmd's ...
Quagmus
18-05-2006, 11:56
i got a better idea how about france they surrender fast and have proven wmd's ...
france also has muslims in it
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 12:02
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-05-18T002959Z_01_N17336879_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-REPUBLICANS-NEWHAMPSHIRE.xml&archived=False



You know, it just keeps coming and coming, doesn't it? Not an arrest, not an indictment, but a GUILTY VERDICT.

No one can claim that this is media hype.

No one can claim that this is a witchhunt by Democrats.

No one can bitch and moan about Democrats being bad sports/poor losers in this case.

Now, let's see where the trail leads from here, shall we? I wouldn't be surprised if this went up higher.

The moment you start saying "where does the trail lead to?" you're engaged in a witch hunt. And you certainly sound like you're bitching and moaning and being a bad sport/poor loser.

You'll also notice that Democrats were also convicted for election tampering, etc., during the last Presidential election. That doesn't mean ALL Democrats were doing it, or that Kerry personally authorized it.

I seem to recall a specific case in Ohio, where a woman was given crack by the local NAACP and used it to recruit people to register to vote. Should I do what you do, and assume that is the policy of the national Democratic Party, and the policy of the national leadership of the NAACP?
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 12:05
10 years in prison? Is that all you freedom fighters will give him for betraying your country's self-proclamed moral values? ROFL
Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 12:09
The moment you start saying "where does the trail lead to?" you're engaged in a witch hunt. And you certainly sound like you're bitching and moaning and being a bad sport/poor loser.

You'll also notice that Democrats were also convicted for election tampering, etc., during the last Presidential election. That doesn't mean ALL Democrats were doing it, or that Kerry personally authorized it.

I seem to recall a specific case in Ohio, where a woman was given crack by the local NAACP and used it to recruit people to register to vote. Should I do what you do, and assume that is the policy of the national Democratic Party, and the policy of the national leadership of the NAACP?

How many times do you have to be turned into a newt before you realize that there actually is a witch to hunt?

By the way, do you have a conviction for that crack case? I seem to recall that the charges were dropped. I could easily have misremembered, and if I have, I promise to register that the facts have changed from here on out.

And I'd be willing to accept that this is the garden variety kind of corruption most politicians indulge in if it wasn't for the close ties in several cases to the Bush administration. This case. Katherine Harris. Diebold. People all around being investigated and indicted. Abramoff at the white house repeatedly but unremembered. Rove. Libby. Cheney.

At the least, Bush can be accused of lying down with a whole mess of dogs, rolling around, and coming up with a boatload of fleas.

Everyone has their excuses and their examples of the misdeeds of Presidents past...but you get to the third or fourth President in order to cover all the gaffes of this current President, and you start to realize...OMFG, this President is an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions.
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 12:10
How many times do you have to be turned into a newt before you realize that there actually is a witch to hunt?

How many times do you have to say there isn't a witch hunt, and then turn around and demand one?
Quagmus
18-05-2006, 12:12
How many times do you have to say there isn't a witch hunt, and then turn around and demand one?
How many newts does it take to subdue a witch?
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 12:14
How many newts does it take to subdue a witch?
IIRC, Newt Gingrich is a Republican.
Quagmus
18-05-2006, 12:15
IIRC, Newt Gingrich is a Republican.
For how long has he been a newt?
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 12:16
For how long has he been a newt?
His whole life, and I don't think he's going to get better.
Allanea
18-05-2006, 12:19
So... has no Democrat ever been convicted of election fraud?

Oh. Wait.

Here's some (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/07/convicting-democrats-is-new-st-louis.html)

LETS NOW START A WITCHUNT AGAINST DEMOCrATS!!!111shiftone!!
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 12:20
So... has no Democrat ever been convicted of election fraud?

Oh. Wait.

Here's some (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2005/07/convicting-democrats-is-new-st-louis.html)

LETS NOW START A WITCHUNT AGAINST DEMOCrATS!!!111shiftone!!

Shhhh. Gymoor doesn't believe that anyone except Republicans do anything wrong.
Allanea
18-05-2006, 12:28
Of course not!

Only the Republicans are the spawn of Satan!

The Democrats have never invaded foreign countries! This has never happened! No! Nor have the Democrats ever engaged in needless out of proportion spending! NOEZ! ITS NOT TRUE!! ONLY THE REPUBLICANS DO IT!!
Dorstfeld
18-05-2006, 12:29
So are you saying that elections in the USA are generally tampered with?
Is the rest of the world just supposed to see this as a kind of everyday business of both US parties?

If so, I'd say you better clean up your own mess first, before bombing "democracy" into other countries.
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 12:31
My oh my, how I shall reward these pathetic politicians for doing most of the hard work for me...

By the time I arrive at the scene, little children are already flaming each other, throwing mud at each other, hating each other...

It's all music to my ears...
Allanea
18-05-2006, 12:32
So are you saying that elections in the USA are generally tampered with?
Is the rest of the world just supposed to see this as a kind of everyday business of both US parties?


Elections everywhere are tampered with sometimes. I am sure every nation has some form of fraud, at some level or another.

But there's a major difference between 'oh, we set fire to a ballot box' (Israel), 'we blocked the other guy's phones during a campaign' (America), 'postal voting' (Britain) and 'RAWR!!!! THE LEADER GOT 105% OF THE VOTE AGAIN!!!' [generic third world shitholes.

Oh, if you don't know about Voting Fraud in Britain: http://www.spy.org.uk/spyblog/2005/04/labour_postal_voting_fraud_in.html
Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 12:37
Shhhh. Gymoor doesn't believe that anyone except Republicans do anything wrong.

Complete and utter BS. If you've been convicted, then the full force of the law should be thrown at you. Those closely tied, especially if there is a repeating pattern of association, should, at the least, have a magnifying glass pointed at them. Regardless of party.

Of course, you're all so busy finding other people who have jumped off that bridge that you forget that jumping off a bridge is freakin' stupid. It's ALL messed up.

How all of you Bush/Republican/Conservative/Traditionalist Libertarians/Whatever can distrust the government and it's institutions so vehemently and yet still bend over backwards to defend YOUR government leader types I'll never know. It's a disassociation that baffles and confuses me. It's like you hate rules but you love the rulers...as long as they are wearing the Republican jersey. It's battered husband syndrome. "Oh, this black eye? I fell down the stairs."
Allanea
18-05-2006, 12:42
How all of you Bush/Republican/Conservative/Traditionalist Libertarians/Whatever can distrust the government and it's institutions so vehemently and yet still bend over backwards to defend YOUR government leader types I'll never know.

I call bullshit.

1. I am not a republican, conservative, or traditionalist. I'm bisexual, Jewish, and wrote for the Badnarik campaign website in 2004.

2. I don't live in America nor hold an American citizenship.
Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 12:43
I call bullshit.

1. I am not a republican, conservative, or traditionalist. I'm bisexual, Jewish, and wrote for the Badnarik campaign website in 2004.

2. I don't live in America nor hold an American citizenship.

Then why are YOU doing cartwheels to defend Dear Leader?
Dreqban
18-05-2006, 13:08
There is a very easy way to settle this, both sides have to make concessions, but I think that it's a fair compromise:

1) George W. Bush is, indeed, a douchebag (that's used in the common usage form, not the literal form).

2) The Democratic Party is just as chock-full with douchebags as the Republican Party.

3) Hillary Clinton is never allowed to hold any public office ever again, for being a retarded, butch bitch.

4) Isn't it funny how a nation that claims to be the center of democracy essentially has two political parties? Hmm, Nazi Germany had one party, so did/do the Communist nations. It's actually kind of sickening that we basically get to pick between two people for our leader.

Note (point 4): Yes, I am aware there are an insane number of third parties. I am also stating that, as things are now, they don't have a chance in hell of ever winning, so they don't count. I would love to see a third party take the Presidency, but it is never going to happen.
Myrmidonisia
18-05-2006, 13:09
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-05-18T002959Z_01_N17336879_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-REPUBLICANS-NEWHAMPSHIRE.xml&archived=False



You know, it just keeps coming and coming, doesn't it? Not an arrest, not an indictment, but a GUILTY VERDICT.

No one can claim that this is media hype.

No one can claim that this is a witchhunt by Democrats.

No one can bitch and moan about Democrats being bad sports/poor losers in this case.

Now, let's see where the trail leads from here, shall we? I wouldn't be surprised if this went up higher.
Ah yes, the long-awaited proof of a widespread conspiracy to disenfranchise voters in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. I knew it would surface, given enough time.
Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 13:12
Ah yes, the long-awaited proof of a widespread conspiracy to disenfranchise voters in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. I knew it would surface, given enough time.

Can't you guys ever argue what I actually say rather than what you imagine I say?
Kinda Sensible people
18-05-2006, 13:26
I think that the people going "Democrats do it too!" need to read the last sentence in the first paragraph. The White House is implicated in this. That is nothing short of critical, because it demonstrates that not only are Republicans doing this (Because politicians are all rats and not a one of them plays fair), but that top of the line Republicans may be in on this sort of thing. I'm not making any judgements yet, but I'm suspicious.

Edit: The Republicans also payed for this man's defense. While that means nothing, I'm made suspicious that they didn't cut this guy loose the minute that he was fingered. That sort of thing tends to indicate that he has something on the Republicans that they don't want him singing about to make a plea bargain.
Allanea
18-05-2006, 13:30
Then why are YOU doing cartwheels to defend Dear Leader?


I have *gasp* an opinion different from yours.

Isn't it funny how a nation that claims to be the center of democracy essentially has two political parties? Hmm, Nazi Germany had one party,

In actual truth, that's not exactly so. In countries with parliamentary-based elections, the party center makes a list of candidates from that party, and they enter these candidates into Parlament if the party wins votes. Because the party center controls the list, only people conforming to the party ideology enter Parlament via that ticket.

In America, because the RNCDNC do not control who runs for Senate in a given state (if you win the Republican primaries in your district, you run for CongresS), even if he entirely disagrees with the NC.

Thus the Repubs have Tancredo and McCain and Ron Paul, and the Dems have Dingell and Hillary and Zell Miller.
Kinda Sensible people
18-05-2006, 13:33
Ah yes, the long-awaited proof of a widespread conspiracy to disenfranchise voters in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. I knew it would surface, given enough time.

:rolleyes:

In the case of 2000, no further proof is needed. In the case of 2004 only wingbats on the far left are of the opinion that the President actively cheated. Passively, through voter intimidation? Yeah. But only the completely unrealistic actually beleive that Diebold or any other Republican conspiracy had anything to do with the Ohio victory.
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 13:59
Then why are YOU doing cartwheels to defend Dear Leader?

Gee, I'm not defending Dear Leader. I'm just not willing to make the accusations that you make.

Just because someone is convicted doesn't mean the whole party is involved, nor, even if there is an allegation that the White House is involved, does it mean that it's true.

Sure, worth investigating. But you seem to have already made the leap that the whole thing was orchestrated by a man you regard as a complete idiot, and that it was a deep, dark secret kept by people you regard as idiots.

I distinctly remember people with tinfoil hats during the Clinton Administration, saying that because some people were convicted during Whitewater that the President must surely be involved - orchestrating some conspiracy. Your ravings sound remarkably similar to me.
Not bad
18-05-2006, 14:02
Im willing to wait and see what is found out about further ties.

How many more people would he need to hire telemarketers to tie up a couple of get-out-the-vote telephone lines though?

And of course the Democratic Party is going to try to say it is more widespread and try to get carte blanche to rummage through Republican records. They are trying to line their pockets with Republican money.

"We need to find out how high this goes in the Republican Party," said
Paul Twomey, an attorney for the Democratic Party who is leading a separate civil lawsuit that alleges Republican voter fraud and seeks monetary damages.
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 14:04
Im willing to wait and see what is found out about further ties.

How many more people would he need to hire telemarketers to tie up a couple of get-out-the-vote telephone lines though?

And of course the Democratic Party is going to try to say it is more widespread and try to get carte blanche to rummage through Republican records. They are trying to line their pockets with Republican money.

Exactly. Gymoor already deeply believes that it is widespread, and centrally orchestrated by the White House.

Maybe they're desperate for money because Dean has screwed them hard on fund raising, or because the Democrats can't convince people to vote for them even though the Republicans aren't popular anymore.
Gymoor Prime
18-05-2006, 14:25
Exactly. Gymoor already deeply believes that it is widespread, and centrally orchestrated by the White House.

Maybe they're desperate for money because Dean has screwed them hard on fund raising, or because the Democrats can't convince people to vote for them even though the Republicans aren't popular anymore.

Do you ever get tired of arguing in fantasy land?
Kazus
18-05-2006, 14:27
I heart the "Democrats do it too and that makes it okay" excuse.
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 14:37
I heart the "Democrats do it too and that makes it okay" excuse.
Shushhh little thing or I'll have you hanged 666 times...
Kazus
18-05-2006, 14:45
Shushhh little thing or I'll have you hanged 666 times...

I could only be so lucky.
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 14:47
Can't you guys ever argue what I actually say rather than what you imagine I say?

And just what are you trying to say? That Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats when it comes to election fraud?
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 14:48
I think that the people going "Democrats do it too!" need to read the last sentence in the first paragraph. The White House is implicated in this.

Actually...I'll re-read that. It says MAY IMPLICATE. It is not implicating him my dear friend. Its saying HE MAY HAVE which is different.

a scandal that Democrats charge may involve the White House.

Just for proof that it says may be involved.
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 14:49
I could only be so lucky.

make that 666.666 times.
Kazus
18-05-2006, 14:51
make that 666.666 times.

You can hang someone 2/3 of a time? You really are Satan!
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 14:52
I heart the "Democrats do it too and that makes it okay" excuse.

Actually it isn't ok as both parties have had people indicted and convicted of election tampering and election fraud.
Kazus
18-05-2006, 14:54
Actually it isn't ok as both parties have had people indicted and convicted of election tampering and election fraud.

Right but that doesnt mean Republicans get a free pass.
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 14:54
You can hang someone 2/3 of a time? You really are Satan!

I'm currently doing a business trip in Europe and here my little things play with dots instead of commas, in-between their precious little zeros.
Kazus
18-05-2006, 14:55
I'm currently doing a business trip in Europe and here my little things play with dots instead of commas, in-between their precious little zeros.

How dastardly!
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 14:58
Right but that doesnt mean Republicans get a free pass.

Didn't you see the phrase both parties have had people indicted and convicted of election tampering and election fraud?
Gorias
18-05-2006, 15:00
Somebody needs a fresh war or a monumental terrorist attack FAST!

american needs a nice bloody civil war. problem sovled. all the different ethnic groups can fight each other., it would be gas.
Kazus
18-05-2006, 15:00
Didn't you see the phrase both parties have had people indicted and convicted of election tampering and election fraud?

And didnt you see me talking about people giving the excuse that Democrats do it too and therefore think Republicans are free to do it?
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 15:05
And didnt you see me talking about people giving the excuse that Democrats do it too and therefore think Republicans are free to do it?

As far as I know...no one here is saying that republicans are free to do it. they were just pointing out that Democrats have been convicted of this as well as Republicans.
Crown Prince Satan
18-05-2006, 15:08
Didn't you see the phrase both parties have had people indicted and convicted of election tampering and election fraud?
And didnt you see me talking about people giving the excuse that Democrats do it too and therefore think Republicans are free to do it?
No-no-no... Wait a minute, let's go back a bit, you were flaming each other! Come on... You going to turn love doves now, can't you see that's what they want?
american needs a nice bloody civil war. problem sovled. all the different ethnic groups can fight each other., it would be gas.
Follow Gorias's example. If you don't like the status quo, begin a civil war, kill all ethnic groups you don't like and start all over again. WAR, my friends, War!
Kazus
18-05-2006, 15:19
As far as I know...no one here is saying that republicans are free to do it. they were just pointing out that Democrats have been convicted of this as well as Republicans.
The point here is that Republicans are committing vote fraud. Whats the point in saying "Democrats do it too"?
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 15:20
The point here is that Republicans are committing vote fraud. Whats the point in saying "Democrats do it too"?

Both sides do it and I'm glad this is out in the press. It shows that both sides do it and that when caught, they go away to prison.
Deep Kimchi
18-05-2006, 15:52
The point here is that Republicans are committing vote fraud. Whats the point in saying "Democrats do it too"?

The point in saying "Democrats are doing it too" is that somehow, many Democrats are shouting that there wouldn't be fraud and stupid decisions if Democrats were in charge.

Yes, Bush is unpopular - but is that translating into "Democrats are popular" or "Democrats are the answer" ?

Nope. Maybe it's because Howard Dean is a big idiot, too.
Myrmidonisia
18-05-2006, 16:10
Can't you guys ever argue what I actually say rather than what you imagine I say?
Because there isn't enough substance in what you say?
Schwarzchild
18-05-2006, 16:47
(tongue firmly in cheek)

May I please have an honest rigged election? Just like the honest rigged elections I used to know?

Election fraud goes all the way back to Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall. How I dearly love reading such warm and fuzzy stories, it makes a young capitalist's heart skip a beat for joy to read and fantasize about the Daley political machine in Chicago. Katherine Harris' lovely debacle in Florida. The US Supreme Court hitting itself in the face with Egg Creme over the 2000 elections. Ken Blackwell's ingenius vote suppression methods (make the lines too long and they will stay away) in Ohio.

Such ingeniuty in support of their party's efforts to be supreme mugwumps of their particular little patch of Nirvana. They all deserve a round of applause.

For my money, for sheer nostalgia, let us all have a moment of silence for Warren Gamaliel Harding and the Teapot Dome scandal. After all, we all love a good party and so did Harding. Although this is not election fraud, it is a cracking good scandal...and it dragged out SIX YEARS!! Ooohhh, the juiciness of that. I get all gooey inside thinking about it.

But for sheer lunacy, you have to go back to the Grant Administration. Everyone was a crook in his Administration, except him! The pillaged! they looted! They robbed Uncle Sam blind and left him with just his knickers with the little tiny red hearts on them. Which makes me jealous because I want a pair of boxers with tiny red hearts on them...rawr!

The man in trouble now is sort of the election fraud equivalent of the trout you have to throw back because it's too small. Find out who his bosses were, cut him a reduced jail sentence for testifying and go after the bigger fish.

I say to all legal fishermen, go out and bag your limit!
Hoos Bandoland
18-05-2006, 16:53
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-05-18T002959Z_01_N17336879_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-REPUBLICANS-NEWHAMPSHIRE.xml&archived=False



You know, it just keeps coming and coming, doesn't it? Not an arrest, not an indictment, but a GUILTY VERDICT.

No one can claim that this is media hype.

No one can claim that this is a witchhunt by Democrats.

No one can bitch and moan about Democrats being bad sports/poor losers in this case.

Now, let's see where the trail leads from here, shall we? I wouldn't be surprised if this went up higher.

What we need is for someone to give Bush a blow job so he can be impeached.
Santa Barbara
18-05-2006, 16:57
Of course not!

Only the Republicans are the spawn of Satan!

The Democrats have never invaded foreign countries! This has never happened! No! Nor have the Democrats ever engaged in needless out of proportion spending! NOEZ! ITS NOT TRUE!! ONLY THE REPUBLICANS DO IT!!

So basically, you admit that Republicans are the spawn of Satan, but it's alright cuz Democrats are too?

Fuck that. And people wonder why I'm one of those evil "third party" supporters. I guess I have better things to do with my dick than wave it around in the name of The Party.
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 17:07
What we need is for someone to give Bush a blow job so he can be impeached.

Oh brother :rolleyes:
JuNii
18-05-2006, 17:27
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-05-18T002959Z_01_N17336879_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-REPUBLICANS-NEWHAMPSHIRE.xml&archived=False



You know, it just keeps coming and coming, doesn't it? Not an arrest, not an indictment, but a GUILTY VERDICT.

No one can claim that this is media hype.

No one can claim that this is a witchhunt by Democrats.

No one can bitch and moan about Democrats being bad sports/poor losers in this case.

Now, let's see where the trail leads from here, shall we? I wouldn't be surprised if this went up higher.
and it wasn't hyped in the media. so guess what. the system does work without the Media butting in!

however, let us do see how high it goes. I believe it's only a small group doing it, but let's see what the investigators find out.

I Find this point interesting...

Get-out-the-vote hot lines set up by state Democrats and a firefighter's association to urge residents to vote were jammed by more than 800 hang-up calls. State Republican officials say they tried to stop it once they learned of the scheme.

Republican John Sununu beat then-Gov. Jeanne Shaheen in the election and state Republicans swept a number of close polls.
so is what they are implying is that because the Dem's program to call residents to vote got jammed up is why they lost?

to tell you the truth, the Republicans did a similar thing like the dems "Get out and Vote" here in Hawaii... but because they didn't do their math, or realize that there is a time zone difference, all their automated calls came in between 1:00 - 3:00 in the morning.

according to one of my friends, the Republican headquarters got so many pissed off calls it went past being a funny screwup to a worrying situation.
Ravenshrike
18-05-2006, 17:39
Democrats want an investigation into 22 telephone calls made by Tobin and New Hampshire Republican Party officials to the White House on November 5 and 6, 2002, and say they believe national Republican officials may be involved in the scheme.

Hmmm, calls made to the white house when the president is of the like party and the race in question is for a US senate seat. That's sooooo unusual.
Gauthier
18-05-2006, 17:47
What we need is for someone to give Bush a blow job so he can be impeached.

If we can all pitch in to buy a ticket to Washington for UN Abassadorship we have it made.
PsychoticDan
18-05-2006, 17:52
IIRC, Newt Gingrich is a Republican.
I'm tired of my ignorance. I keep seeing this and wondering what it means.

IIRC? :confused:
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 17:53
I'm tired of my ignorance. I keep seeing this and wondering what it means.

IIRC? :confused:

If I recall Correctly.
Ceia
18-05-2006, 17:57
ROTFLMAO
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• That Democrats have, since the party's founding, routinely used election fraud to win -- and continue to do so today.

But Donkey Cons is more than a laundry list of Democratic scandals. Inside you will four essential points:

1) The Democratic Party has a 200-year history of urban corruption, treason and subversion, mob control, alliance with corrupt unions, and aiding and abetting criminals, that has no parallel in the GOP.

2) Corruption is as old as politics and it will always be present in both parties. But when corruption occurs in its ranks, Republicans generally clean house. Democrats, on the other hand, cover up.

3) Over the past 30 years in Congress, there have been three times as many Democratic crooks as Republican ones. (We took the trouble to actually count and it's all documented in more than 650 end notes.)

4) There is a media double-standard for covering Republican and Democratic scandal, which results in the false impression that both parties are equally corrupt.

Nancy Pelosi's "culture of corruption" canard is a straight-up lie -- and Donkey Cons proves it.

If Democrats try to make "corruption" the central issue of their 2006 campaign, they'll surely lose-and we'll probably sell a lot more books.

Come to think of it. Hey, Nancy: You go, girl!
PsychoticDan
18-05-2006, 17:59
If I recall Correctly.
Thanks! :)
Corneliu
18-05-2006, 18:00
Thanks! :)

No Problem my friend :)
Teh_pantless_hero
18-05-2006, 18:05
A married Democratic senator who leaves a party with a single young woman and gets into a drunk-driving accident that kills her does not merely avoid jail time, but retains his Senate seat and indeed goes on to become one of the most powerful politicians in his party.
Oh look, its the classic Republican "when you have no real argument, reference Chappquiddick" move.
Gauthier
18-05-2006, 18:14
Oh look, its the classic Republican "when you have no real argument, reference Chappquiddick" move.

Nevermind that the current First Lady took a more direct approach to Vehicular Manslaughter ;)
JuNii
18-05-2006, 18:19
The point being... that Republicans and Democrats...

let me correct that. POLITI... no, HUMAN BEINGS are far from perfect.