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http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3671383a10,00.html

The basic story

A guy walks into a police recruiting area in NZ wearing a brightly colored scarf. A woman police officer offers the advice "Lose the scarf".
A gent officer behind her chimes in "Yeah it's too gay"

The guy is so offended that he contacts the media to tell of the horror he has just suffered.

OK to save the theatrics of every gay person on board taking personal affront to this outrage blah blah blah lets start off with
1. Its wrong to call anyones scarf gay because, well, just because.
2. Gays should be police officers if they want to be and are qualified.

Now back to the guy with the bright scarf. Does anyone except me think the guy is too sensitive and too quick to call in the media/cavalry to have been a good peace officer anyway? How apt is he to be able to handle the sort of human sewage that police do if he cries to the news when someone critiques his neckwear choice?

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?

I don't know what to say. It seems like much ado about nothing...

Cops are bigots? I don't think this is news anywhere in the world. Not that it should be that way..

This topic's kinda gay, dude...

(Hey, back off, it was a joke.)

Yeah, it was out of line, but overreacting only causes a situation to be more volitile.

If it were something along the lines of "Lose the scarf and we'll talk, fag." I'd understand, but otherwise, no.

In short: He's a crybaby, but the two officers should still be strung up by their genitals for it. (And before someone mentions the female officer, a large hook-like impliment would be used...)

Its funy cos' at the same time they're trying to get 1000 more cops anyway, stupid "Officers of the Peace":rolleyes:

Honesty > New Zealanders feelings

Basically. just a cry baby

http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3671383a10,00.html

The basic story

A guy walks into a police recruiting area in NZ wearing a brightly colored scarf. A woman police officer offers the advice "Lose the scarf".
A gent officer behind her chimes in "Yeah it's too gay"

The guy is so offended that he contacts the media to tell of the horror he has just suffered.

OK to save the theatrics of every gay person on board taking personal affront to this outrage blah blah blah lets start off with
1. Its wrong to call anyones scarf gay because, well, just because.
2. Gays should be police officers if they want to be and are qualified.

Now back to the guy with the bright scarf. Does anyone except me think the guy is too sensitive and too quick to call in the media/cavalry to have been a good peace officer anyway? How apt is he to be able to handle the sort of human sewage that police do if he cries to the news when someone critiques his neckwear choice?

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?


o.O

Dude, this isn't an issue, it's someone crying for the PC Gestapo to step in.

The thing is the police last year went through a program to deal with any issues that some might have coping with gays and lesbians...didn't really work did it? There is nothing stopping gay or lesbian people from joining the NZ police anyway.

How do you know that the guy isn't joining the police force because he was recently savagely beaten by a blatant homophobe? Did it ever occur to you that someone might have a reasonable reason to react strongly to something?

In other words, don't be a dumbass by judging someone too quickly.

If that happens, you explain it to your co-workers calmly, and ask them not to do that again. Don't go to the media for it... I'm sure they'll most likely understand.

So it was a happy looking scarf. Big deal.

How do you know that the guy isn't joining the police force because he was recently savagely beaten by a blatant homophobe? Did it ever occur to you that someone might have a reasonable reason to react strongly to something?

In other words, don't be a dumbass by judging someone too quickly.Oh... we're sorry.

So what color exactly was your scarf....?

So it was a happy looking scarf. Big deal.

Don't make light of this-- Happy scarfs are dangerous.

Three years ago, my brother was viciously and suddenly attacked by... happy scarves.

You know who killed Bambi's mother? Happy Scarves.

Yeah I read this too. Two points -

It was dumb for the recruitment guy to say what he did. He was probably saying something that many of us unfortunately have done, that is, use 'homo' and 'gay' as a way of putting something down and casting a negative shodow over it. The word 'gay' is used as a substitute for the word 'bad' by many people. I can understand the fish and chip shop person saying something like that, but NOT a leading police recruitment officer. Stupid idiots.

Second point, .cant you just imagine what this guy actually is like in real life???? lol...he is probably the type of guy that complains that his cappucino doesnt have enough 'fluff' on top. Or the kid in school that laughs along with the kids that did something a little 'naughty' and then when the kids are not looking, he goes and confesses to the teachers everything and implicates the guilty parties.
In short, what a loser. He should have replied to the police officer and called him a F$%$king idiot for saying something like that, and got an apology. Or even perhaps write to his superiors if he is really offended. Not go to the media!! :headbang:
Someone give this guy a mincey.

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?Given the choices, I'll go with the former.

http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3671383a10,00.html

The basic story

A guy walks into a police recruiting area in NZ wearing a brightly colored scarf. A woman police officer offers the advice "Lose the scarf".
A gent officer behind her chimes in "Yeah it's too gay"

The guy is so offended that he contacts the media to tell of the horror he has just suffered.

OK to save the theatrics of every gay person on board taking personal affront to this outrage blah blah blah lets start off with
1. Its wrong to call anyones scarf gay because, well, just because.
2. Gays should be police officers if they want to be and are qualified.

Now back to the guy with the bright scarf. Does anyone except me think the guy is too sensitive and too quick to call in the media/cavalry to have been a good peace officer anyway? How apt is he to be able to handle the sort of human sewage that police do if he cries to the news when someone critiques his neckwear choice?

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?
Lets face it Homosexuality isn't Masculine anymore.

I don't know what to say. It seems like much ado about nothing...
I agree-but the scarf guy was a bit quick on the trigger

How do you know that the guy isn't joining the police force because he was recently savagely beaten by a blatant homophobe? Did it ever occur to you that someone might have a reasonable reason to react strongly to something?

In other words, don't be a dumbass by judging someone too quickly.

I must admit that the possibility of scarfman being savagely beaten by homophobes never did occur to me. Primarily because I read the article and it refers to his girlfriend and strongly implies that he is not gay.

In other words, don't be a dumbass by judging someone too quickly

In short, what a loser. He should have replied to the police officer and called him a F$%$king idiot for saying something like that, and got an apology.

Yeah, that would've worked, if it wasn't illegal. :rolleyes:

Dude was perfectly within his rights. Police are supposed to be an example of how to behave.

http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3671383a10,00.html

The basic story

A guy walks into a police recruiting area in NZ wearing a brightly colored scarf. A woman police officer offers the advice "Lose the scarf".
A gent officer behind her chimes in "Yeah it's too gay"

The guy is so offended that he contacts the media to tell of the horror he has just suffered.

OK to save the theatrics of every gay person on board taking personal affront to this outrage blah blah blah lets start off with
1. Its wrong to call anyones scarf gay because, well, just because.
2. Gays should be police officers if they want to be and are qualified.

Now back to the guy with the bright scarf. Does anyone except me think the guy is too sensitive and too quick to call in the media/cavalry to have been a good peace officer anyway? How apt is he to be able to handle the sort of human sewage that police do if he cries to the news when someone critiques his neckwear choice?

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?

He's a crybaby, definately. So he said it's too gay, so what? Life's tough. What'll he do if he gets cancer?

Crybaby. Contemptible little sod.
I could sort of understand it if he took a poke at someone.
But filing spurious complaints is for sissies.

He's a crybaby, definately. So he said it's too gay, so what? Life's tough. What'll he do if he gets cancer?

Sue McDonalds...

Crazy Zimbabweans.

Maybe he's just fed up of constant homophobic comments. Unless you have similar experiences, I don't think you can judge him.

Here's a little test for you. Just imagine (if you are heterosexual) that everywhere you go you hear comments like "rutting breeder", for instance. At first you might find this funny, after a while you might still be amused, after a couple of weeks a bit bored, after a few months, a little pissed. Now, how will you feel if any average eejit decides to use an offhand comment like that to refer to something about you or how you look. Think abouit it!

Yeah, that would've worked, if it wasn't illegal. :rolleyes:

Dude was perfectly within his rights. Police are supposed to be an example of how to behave.


If it was illegal to call someone a F--ing idiot, most of the country would be in jail! Lol!

Unless of course you live in some weird dictatorship country.

Here in England, you can call the police whatever you want as long as you don't actually physically assault someone.

Maybe he's just fed up of constant homophobic comments. Unless you have similar experiences, I don't think you can judge him.

Here's a little test for you. Just imagine (if you are heterosexual) that everywhere you go you hear comments like "rutting breeder", for instance. At first you might find this funny, after a while you might still be amused, after a couple of weeks a bit bored, after a few months, a little pissed. Now, how will you feel if any average eejit decides to use an offhand comment like that to refer to something about you or how you look. Think abouit it!


Yes I can see how that might happen. But they strongly imply he is not gay, and even mention his girlfriend. So he probably hasnt suffered overly from rude vocal homophobes If he has suffered months of comments about his clothing maybe he should consider either changing his style or becoming less sensitive to what people say about it.

If it was illegal to call someone a F--ing idiot, most of the country would be in jail! Lol!

Unless of course you live in some weird dictatorship country.

Here in England, you can call the police whatever you want as long as you don't actually physically assault someone.

You're welcome to test that theory, but I think you'll find you're wrong.

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?
Neither. The cops have the right to say that his scarf looks gay, and he has the right to be offended. I suppose one could argue that his alerting the media was not for the purpose of whining, but to alert people that (certain) police officers are homophobic, in which case he's doing a public service.

http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3671383a10,00.html

The basic story

A guy walks into a police recruiting area in NZ wearing a brightly colored scarf. A woman police officer offers the advice "Lose the scarf".
A gent officer behind her chimes in "Yeah it's too gay"

The guy is so offended that he contacts the media to tell of the horror he has just suffered.

OK to save the theatrics of every gay person on board taking personal affront to this outrage blah blah blah lets start off with
1. Its wrong to call anyones scarf gay because, well, just because.
2. Gays should be police officers if they want to be and are qualified.

Now back to the guy with the bright scarf. Does anyone except me think the guy is too sensitive and too quick to call in the media/cavalry to have been a good peace officer anyway? How apt is he to be able to handle the sort of human sewage that police do if he cries to the news when someone critiques his neckwear choice?

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?


Crybaby. He should have had the balls to tell them to stuff it.

He's a whiney little bitch. If hes that easily offended he shouldnt be applying to be a cop, or anything else. what a pussy. I cant stand people who are that highly strung and sel centered.

Maybe he's just fed up of constant homophobic comments. Unless you have similar experiences, I don't think you can judge him.

So what, aren't you all discriminated on something, whether you're gay, fat, bald, poor, speckled, short or coloured? A little of bit of discrimination makes you angrier thus stronger people. It's good... It's goooood.

Unfortunately, you have to know whose ballpark you're in, so to speak, and when you're on a job interview you have to dress the way you'd dress at the job. (Of course, if there's a uniform, you have to just sort of approximate the general style.) Police are generally blue-collar "tough guys" and a person of any gender wearing a colorful scarf to a police recruitment thing would be making a faux pas.

As for them saying it's gay, that IS beyond the pale at this point. They're adult police officers, not grade schoolers. Doctors are getting major-league ethics and sensitivity training these days, why not police?

Of course, it really wasn't something to go to the media about.

Of course, it really wasn't something to go to the media about.

:upyours: I have to disagree; it suits my plans just perfectly. I'm going to remember your name, little thing...

:upyours: I have to disagree; it suits my plans just perfectly. I'm going to remember your name, little thing...

Hmmm...please do.

Is the guy a crybaby or is he a hero for equality?
He's no hero for fashion.

At first when you said "bright scarf", I was thinking this has to be some wild assortment of neon and much to my disappointment, it was orange.

I think he overreacted, though, he probably was right to want an apology. He was after all expressing interest in their exhibition. If he got an apology, it should be because the commensts were made in poor taste and not because the comments were offensive.

Yay for New Zealand.

Hmmm...please do.

Is that Ilie with one (h)ell or two (h)ells?

Using "gay" as an insult is just as bad as calling someone a "******" if you ask me.

Maybe the policeman who said the scarf was "Gay" knows from experience? :p

Using "gay" as an insult is just as bad as calling someone a "******" if you ask me.
"That scarf looks like something a gay person might wear"
"That scarf looks like something a ****** might wear"

Hmm. You think?

"That scarf looks like something a gay person might wear"
"That scarf looks like something a ****** might wear"

Hmm. You think?

Yes

I've know what it is to be gay in 2006 and have never taken to the police ...

so one might think I have every reason to support the scarf guy, but I don't ... because being an intolerable winer helps no one

"That scarf looks like something a gay person might wear"
"That scarf looks like something a ****** might wear"

Hmm. You think?EHH, let me think.....Yes!

EHH, let me think.....Yes!
.. How so? Surely the '******' call would be more offensive.
Think about it...
"You can't join because your a homosexual"
"You can't join because your a ******"

Err.. Homophobia isn't great. But racism is worse.

.. How so? Surely the '******' call would be more offensive.
Think about it...
"You can't join because your a homosexual"
"You can't join because your a ******"

Err.. Homophobia isn't great. But racism is worse.

Whats the difference?

.. How so? Surely the '******' call would be more offensive.
Think about it...
"You can't join because your a homosexual"
"You can't join because your a ******"

Err.. Homophobia isn't great. But racism is worse.If you are not a gay person, you cannot say racism is worse. From a Gay
perspective I can at least say they are the same. Bigotry is all about hatred.

To add another aspect to this argument, consider this:
The average Black person has black friends, a family that will support him (he never has to disclose to his parents that he is black).

The average Gay person, invariably comes from a heterosexual family who may or may not be liberal towards homosexuality, there are no role models the gay teenager can realistically relate to, he/she is alone and vulneraqble until they can establish themselves with other Gay people. The struggle to overcome shame, humiliation, hatred and bigotry is usually one made in isolation.

Only those who themselves are victims of bigotry can say with any certainty what it feels like, those who don't have that experience should listen, not judge.

I've know what it is to be gay in 2006 and have never taken to the police ...

so one might think I have every reason to support the scarf guy, but I don't ... because being an intolerable winer helps no one

Why is there's always one of you little things around, talking from experience? Can't you see I was doing a great job until you came up? AArrrgh. Go vote in the Eurovision poll or something...

"That scarf looks like something a gay person might wear"
"That scarf looks like something a ****** might wear"

Hmm. You think?
yes

.. How so? Surely the '******' call would be more offensive.
Think about it...
"You can't join because your a homosexual"
"You can't join because your a ******"

Err.. Homophobia isn't great. But racism is worse.
How is racism worse than homophobia? Are you going to rank each form of discrimination based on how it affects you and determine which is worse?

How is racism worse than homophobia? Are you going to rank each form of discrimination?
No, I'm just saying. From experience, although extraordinarily limited, I've found '******' to be more offensive than gay.
Yes, I know a black homosexual. We chatted about this sorta and he did say he found ****** to be more insulting to him. That's all.
I understand what you're getting at though.

Phbt, as if any gay man would be caught dead with a fashion faux pas like that around his neck.



Ack relax! I'm joking!

How is racism worse than homophobia? Are you going to rank each form of discrimination based on how it affects you and determine which is worse?

Don't worry about which one I will reward most. Don't worry, I've got hot gadgets, hot guys and girls for all...

If you are not a gay person, you cannot say racism is worse. From a Gay
perspective I can at least say they are the same. Bigotry is all about hatred.

To add another aspect to this argument, consider this:
The average Black person has black friends, a family that will support him (he never has to disclose to his parents that he is black).

The average Gay person, invariably comes from a heterosexual family who may or may not be liberal towards homosexuality, there are no role models the gay teenager can realistically relate to, he/she is alone and vulneraqble until they can establish themselves with other Gay people. The struggle to overcome shame, humiliation, hatred and bigotry is usually one made in isolation.

Only those who themselves are victims of bigotry can say with any certainty what it feels like, those who don't have that experience should listen, not judge.
I'm just going on personal experience here. The gay people I know find it hilliarous how the term 'Gay' is thrown around for anything these days. The one homsexual black person I know is in this category but he doesn't find it funny how ****** is used.

I'm just going on personal experience here. The gay people I know find it hilliarous how the term 'Gay' is thrown around for anything these days. The one homsexual black person I know is in this category but he doesn't find it funny how ****** is used.

Did your friend try to join the police?

I'm just going on personal experience here. The gay people I know find it hilliarous how the term 'Gay' is thrown around for anything these days. The one homsexual black person I know is in this category but he doesn't find it funny how ****** is used.
I do not personaly find the term 'Gay' being thrown around humorous, you may just have wierd friends.

Though i did not care for how "Jewish" used to be thrown around either, and I am not Jewish

Did your friend try to join the police?
Nope.. But if someone said his scarf looks gay he would say "Yea.. That's cause I am.. And what?"
Now, if they said "That scarf looks like a ****** scarf"... He wouldn't be happy.

Though i did not care for how "Jewish" used to be thrown around either, and I am not Jewish

Tell me you didn't mean to say did, please... Surely, you're haven't turned a love dove too?

The gay people I know find it hilliarous how the term 'Gay' is thrown around for anything these days. The one homsexual black person I know is in this category but he doesn't find it funny how ****** is used.

Thats a problem. Gay people find it funny when who they are is used as an insult.

Sometimes I wish I were in a group that according to political correctness, was "oppressed".

I would then sue the crap out of virtually every employer I've ever had, for every remark that was ever made about me.

I'd retire to the Cayman Islands with my winnings.

Nope.. But if someone said his scarf looks gay he would say "Yea.. That's cause I am.. And what?"
Now, if they said "That scarf looks like a ****** scarf"... He wouldn't be happy.
And why should a homosexual person have to be any happier about being called gay then a black person would abotu being called ******

I do not personaly find the term 'Gay' being thrown around humorous, you may just have wierd friends.

Though i did not care for how "Jewish" used to be thrown around either, and I am not Jewish
I don't particularly like the way gay is used either.. But my homosexual friends see the funny side. Weird? Mmm

Sometimes I wish I were in a group that according to political correctness, was "oppressed".

I wish you were too. Maybe you would know what its like.

And why should a homosexual person have to be any happier about being called gay then a black person would abotu being called ******
I'm just telling you what he personally would do in this situation. How on earth am I supposed to know why he would? Perhaps something from his childhood or something. Look, basically some people are happy with their sexuality and don't mind if people mock them for it. Some people get angrier over their race being discriminated than their sexuality. It's just who he is.

Sometimes I wish I were in a group that according to political correctness, was "oppressed".

I would then sue the crap out of virtually every employer I've ever had, for every remark that was ever made about me.

I'd retire to the Cayman Islands with my winnings.


Here's how you do it, move to a small town in a "Red" state. Get a job, now mention that you're going out with your boyfriend.

Then realize that it's 100% legal to fire someone for being gay, or deny them housing just for being gay. Then you can see how fun it is to be "Oppressed".

Nope.. But if someone said his scarf looks gay he would say "Yea.. That's cause I am.. And what?"

Fortunately, for me, not everyone is as extroverted and "insensitised" to the word as your friend.

I wish you were too. Maybe you would know what its like.

Gosh, I remember when I was 12, being called "gook" and "slope" and "dink" and "VC" and "rice eater".

It didn't bother me too much, as I turned out smarter and more successful than the black people who were calling me names.

Besides, according to states like California, if you're Asian-American, you don't get a break in admissions because you're not officially oppressed.

If they eliminated affirmative action in California universities, entire engineering departments would be 90 percent Asian, and the remainder would be white.

So right now, there's an active program to suppress Asian enrollment in California universities in engineering and science - otherwise they would fill most of the seats.

Fortunately, for me, not everyone is as extroverted and "insensitised" to the word as your friend.
Fortunately? Well, they're happy and enjoying life. But that's fine. I understand what you're saying.

I'm just telling you what he personally would do in this situation. How on earth am I supposed to know why he would? Perhaps something from his childhood or something. Look, basically some people are happy with their sexuality and don't mind if people mock them for it. Some people get angrier over their race being discriminated than their sexuality. It's just who he is.
Go figure that some of us don’t like our sexual preference to be an issue at all. Maybe some of us have been sent to the hospital over it more then once already

Go figure that some of us don’t like our sexual preference to be an issue at all. Maybe some of us have been sent to the hospital over it more then once already
Well that's terrible.

Are you black?

Gosh, I remember when I was 12, being called "gook" and "slope" and "dink" and "VC" and "rice eater".

It didn't bother me too much, as I turned out smarter and more successful than the black people who were calling me names. Besides, according to states like California, if you're Asian-American, you don't get a break in admissions because you're not officially oppressed.

People arent protesting the existance of Asians. Gays on the other hand are going through a bit of a tough time.


If they eliminated affirmative action in California universities, entire engineering departments would be 90 percent Asian, and the remainder would be white.

So right now, there's an active program to suppress Asian enrollment in California universities in engineering and science - otherwise they would fill most of the seats.

I am not a fan of affirmative action anyway.

Fortunately? Well, they're happy and enjoying life. But that's fine. I understand what you're saying.

I'm just doing my job...

Well that's terrible.

Are you black?
No Bisexual White, 4 guys jumped a friend and me when we left the bar (he was gay)

I somehow ended up being the one stabbed in the back, 3 weeks and a feew lung staples later i was out. (At least I took 3 of them to the hospital with me)

No Bisexual White, 4 guys jumped a friend and me when we left the bar (he was gay)

I somehow ended up being the one stabbed in the back, 3 weeks and a feew lung staples later i was out. (At least I took 3 of them to the hospital with me)
Did they know you were gay?

My friend got stabbed aswell. Pretty similar situation even. Hmm.

People arent protesting the existance of Asians. Gays on the other hand are going through a bit of a tough time.


Really. You should read your history books. Asians have been as repressed in the past as any other group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Immigration_Act_of_1923

I demand reparations for what happened to my ancestors.

Additionally, since my ancestors were Koreans, and not Chinese, I insist that I get reparations, because we are defined as "Asian-Americans".

I still run into people at work who can't stand Asians. Should I sue and retire?

Or should I have a witty comeback, and win by being much smarter?

I wish you were too. Maybe you would know what its like.

My man! You show them!

I still run into people at work who can't stand Asians. Should I sue and retire?

Or should I have a witty comeback, and win by being much smarter?
Smarter is good. Witty comeback is good. Very good.

No Bisexual White, 4 guys jumped a friend and me when we left the bar (he was gay)

I somehow ended up being the one stabbed in the back, 3 weeks and a feew lung staples later i was out. (At least I took 3 of them to the hospital with me)


You sent three to the hospital and they just knifed you. I'd call that fair. Hope you pressed charges.

Smarter is good. Witty comeback is good. Very good.


And winning is even better :D

I am going to regret posting here, I just know it, but here goes.

The issue in this case was not the use of the word "gay" (or the implications thereof), it has to do with sensitivity, as some have stated.

These are the people that women are supposed to be able to go to when they are raped and traumatised, to whom children are supposed to turn to when there is no one else who can help them after they've been molested or have watched their families being attacked in a home invasion, or whatever [insert scenario here].

Now, admittedly, NZ isn't particularly known for brutal crimes but, nevertheless, the police force (anywhere) is supposed to epitomise integrity, courtesy, honesty, and safety.

Yes, the guy overreacted, it would seem, but I wouldn't want to deal with a police officer who finds it appropriate to make such a comment in public. It (going to the media) has helped to bring an issue - sensitivity - to the forefront that may never have been known to be an issue, and therefore never addressed, otherwise.

You sent three to the hospital and they just knifed you. I'd call that fair. Hope you pressed charges.
Damn strait (I is a big boy that has lived on the farm my whole life and spent a large majority in various boxing and martial arts)My friend was not much help but he did his best.

Charges were pressed.

Damn strait (I is a big boy that has lived on the farm my whole life and spent a large majority in various boxing and martial arts)My friend was not much help but he did his best.

Charges were pressed.

I carry a pistol. I'm not inclined to split my knuckles on asshats anymore.

Did they know you were gay?

My friend got stabbed aswell. Pretty similar situation even. Hmm.
Yeah my friend made the mistake of holding hands with his BF earlier in the night they knew he was gay. Im not quite so easy to pick out (not a big fan of pda weather I am with a girl or a guy)

I carry a pistol. I'm not inclined to split my knuckles on asshats anymore.
I was like 20 at the time, No money for such things.

Not sure I would have known before I got stabbed though... it was busy downtown with lots of groups of people. He stabbed me and collapsed my lung before I knew it was coming

Problem with all this is that colourful scarves are gay *shrugs* . Same way as tight cardigans and man-thongs.

Smarter is good. Witty comeback is good. Very good.

I say, if you're going to comeback, go for the jugular.

I was like 20 at the time, No money for such things.

Not sure I would have known before I got stabbed though... it was busy downtown with lots of groups of people. He stabbed me and collapsed my lung before I knew it was coming
Here in Virginia, if I was stabbed first, it would be license for me to shoot without warning.

Really. You should read your history books. Asians have been as repressed in the past as any other group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Immigration_Act_of_1923

Yeah, in the past. I think youre pretty much OK at the present time.

I demand reparations for what happened to my ancestors.

Oh please.

Additionally, since my ancestors were Koreans, and not Chinese, I insist that I get reparations, because we are defined as "Asian-Americans".

Huh? is Korea not Asia?

I still run into people at work who can't stand Asians. Should I sue and retire?

Or should I have a witty comeback, and win by being much smarter?

Gays, not Asians, are being discriminated against by the military
Gays, not Asians, are subject to possible legislation banning their rights to marriage
Gays, not Asians, are subject to more hate crimes and violence
Gays, not Asians, are being kicked out of schools and colleges
Gays, not Asians, are being kicked out of their own homes by their parents because of who they are
Gays, not Asians, are actually being blamed for 9/11 and the deaths of soldiers in Iraq.
Gays, not Asians, are seen as a blemish to society.

So what? People at work dont like you because youre Asian, Id hardly call that opression.

So what? People at work dont like you because youre Asian, Id hardly call that opression.

Hey, I think that everyone who is ever called a name should be able to sue. Who gets to decide where the line is drawn?

And winning is even better :D
Heh yea. Not much tops winning. Well, winning in style. Witty style.

Even better, maybe people should learn to be more polite, rather than try to negotiate "who is oppressed".

Heh yea. Not much tops winning. Well, winning in style. Witty style.

*shrug* I suppose.

But I still think getting the gold(en medal) is more important than style.

Even better, maybe people should learn to be more polite, rather than try to negotiate "who is oppressed".

For a guy who has been "opressed" I just thought you would show a little more sympathy to those who are currently being "opressed".

For a guy who has been "opressed" I just thought you would show a little more sympathy to those who are currently being "opressed".

Sorry, I deal with oppression on a case by case, person by person basis. I have no tolerance for blanket policies that obviously overprotect one group vs. another.

*shrug* I suppose.

But I still think getting the gold(en medal) is more important than style.
Definatly. First and foremost is the win. Do it style though and you can brag just that little bit more.

Definatly. First and foremost is the win. Do it style though and you can brag just that little bit more.

*changes into caveman-suit*

I don't brag.
I just display the hollowed-out skulls.

*changes back into mufti*

btw: caveman-suits are awfully smelly - gross!

Is that Ilie with one (h)ell or two (h)ells?

One hell. <3

Cry baby. Prejudice exists, get over it, and allow the deficiencies of arguments to defeat themselves.

That's just gay. :rolleyes:

Seriously though, talk about melodrama. I think there is more to this than meets the eye. He was probably fishing for an opportunity to drop an officer in the shit.

Lets face it Homosexuality isn't Masculine anymore.

Please. You take it up the ass like a man, and then say that.