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My Political Compass (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) results one year ago:

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.67



My Political Compass (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) results today:

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41


Has anyone else undergone a radical shift in political views over the past year?

You beat me in being more Capitalist! :eek:

lolz

Welcome to the dark side!

You've become a prude!

Not likely :p

I used to be more moderate....but with each passing day and with the more I learn, I become more Conservative. I blame my interests in world affairs for this.

I'm definitely in the same quadrant:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18

I can't remember my earlier numbers though.

Nothing radical, no. I moved slightly leftward, considerably more libertarian, and much more heretical (though that has a merely tangential influence on my politics.)

I don't remember when I took the test that gave me the results in my signature, and I don't care to take the test again.

I just took the test again, and I'm around the same spot I always was.

Facist.

I used to be more moderate....but with each passing day and with the more I learn, I become more Conservative. I blame my interests in world affairs for this.

No. It is just the effect of getting older. It happens regardless of our interest in world affairs.

I used to be more moderate....but with each passing day and with the more I learn, I become more Conservative. I blame my interests in world affairs for this.

I find myself doing this same thing. I have crossed the line and am over to around 1. I am still a liberatarian thought!

I just took the test again, and I'm around the same spot I always was.

Which is...?

I used to be more moderate....but with each passing day and with the more I learn, I become more Conservative. I blame my interests in world affairs for this.
Don't blame them - blame your sources, not your interests.

Speaking of blame ...

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7710/90/1600/Neoconservatives2.jpg

Economic Left/Right: 8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87


Not much of a shocker

Economic Left/Right: 8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87


Not much of a shocker

You and I are on the same wavelength. ;)

I used to be more moderate....but with each passing day and with the more I learn, I become more Conservative. I blame my interests in world affairs for this.

Strange. It was my interest in world affairs which changed me from a moderate US-style liberal into, ultimately, the hard leftist I am now.

No. It is just the effect of getting older. It happens regardless of our interest in world affairs.

B-b-b-ut...I'm 16. lol.

I was somewhat close to the center but after dealing with people here, I am more liberal now. I have been labeled a Clasical Liberal by some people....

Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

I find myself doing this same thing. I have crossed the line and am over to around 1. I am still a liberatarian thought!

I'm pretty right wing right now. just look at my sig, I'm nowhere near moderate anymore.

Don't blame them - blame your sources, not your interests.

Speaking of blame ...

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7710/90/1600/Neoconservatives2.jpg

I get my news from anywhere and everywhere except hardly ever TV.

I get alot of it from yahoo news, alot of it from school government class...ect.

Which is...?


I'm about -5.5, -4.8


I actually thought I'd be slightly more to the right and further down.

I was somewhat close to the center but after dealing with people here, I am more liberal now. I have been labeled a Clasical Liberal by some people....

Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

If you're a negative 6.63 economically, your not a classic liberal AT ALL.

I get my news from anywhere and everywhere except hardly ever TV.Does that mean a large influence from popular radio?

Strange. It was my interest in world affairs which changed me from a moderate US-style liberal into, ultimately, the hard leftist I am now.

hmm...thats strange. To each his own though I guess. But for me, I was always more moderate conservative to begin with. My family, my religion...ect...getting into world affairs seems to just push it to the more extreme of whatever path we started out on. For you, left, for me, right.

If you're a negative 6.63 economically, your not a classic liberal AT ALL.

I don't give much value to this test. ;)

I was somewhat close to the center but after dealing with people here, I am more liberal now. I have been labeled a Clasical Liberal by some people....

Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

Doesn't sound like classical liberalism to me. Sounds like modern-day liberalism.

Does that mean a large influence from popular radio?

No...its mostly from the internet and in my government/politics class at school.

Although I do like listening to Rush every now and then...I tend to know the piece hes presenting before he speaks about it. So I dont really get any news from him.

I don't give much value to this test. ;)

Lol, alright, if you say so. :p

No...its mostly from the internet and in my government/politics class at school.

Although I do like listening to Rush every now and then...I tend to know the piece hes presenting before he speaks about it. So I dont really get any news from him.
So would you say your politics class is "liberally influenced" :rolleyes:?
Also - a friend of mine tried to convince me that Limblob had an accuracy rating of 98%. Wondering if you subscribe to the same philosophy.

Ah well, you like what you like.

So would you say your politics class is "liberally influenced" :rolleyes:?
Also - a friend of mine tried to convince me that Limblob had an accuracy rating of 98%. Wondering if you subscribe to the same philosophy.

Ah well, you like what you like.

Well...most of the kids in my government class are liberals...but they are high school kids in South Florida...so what do you expect. My teacher is more of a moderate conservative...so while I'm way more right than him..we get along great and I learn alot from him.

Rush....I dunno, he makes mistakes but usually hes right on. I dont know about 98%, I doubt anyone is 98% accurate all the time, but I dont mind listening to him. I really like when he ripps Hillary apart, I hate her.

B-b-b-ut...I'm 16. lol.

So, you are older now than when you posted this. (It just affects some of us more rapidly than others.)

I really like when he ripps Hillary apart, I hate her.
Why is that, exactly? What frame of mind were you actually in when any of her supposed transgressions occurred?
Or are you talking about her current run in politics?
Seriously, i want to know.

I used to be firmly in the U.S. Libertarian range, at .68, and -4.0. But I just retook it, and have shifted left economically to -2.63 (and a similar -4.1 social).

I am becoming...I can't say it...s....so...soc...soci...

NOOOOoooooo!

Why is that, exactly? What frame of mind were you actually in when any of her supposed transgressions occurred?
Or are you talking about her current run in politics?
Seriously, i want to know.

I just think shes a fake bitch. Shes a total leftist who is now moving closer to the center and establishing a moderate facade to get votes. Shes an idiot and will say anything as long as the wind of voters is blowing in that general direction. I dont dislike all democrats, shes just one of them that I loathe.

So, you are older now than when you posted this. (It just affects some of us more rapidly than others.)

I am older now than when I posted what?

I just think shes a fake bitch. Shes a total leftist who is now moving closer to the center and establishing a moderate facade to get votes. Shes an idiot and will say anything as long as the wind of voters is blowing in that general direction. I dont dislike all democrats, shes just one of them that I loathe.
What i was able to get out of this is that you hate her because
she endorses a ubiquitous and bafflingly endearing behaviour for both parties,
her personal philosophy is one you know even if her public persona speaks otherwise, thus implying you know her personally,
she somehow has had her intelligence substantiated to you in a way that makes you feel superior to her.

So what democrats don't you dislike, then, and what are the characteristics that stand them out? Zell Miller, perhaps?

Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82

I am older now than when I posted what?

Oh noes. His memory is going as well.

Oh noes. His memory is going as well.

lol, no seriously. I am older now than when I posted what?

Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82

Hard-core centrist.

Just a tanget, but has anyone links to the other political tests? I remember several different ones.

I tried retaking the moral order/rules one but the website seems to be down.

lol, no seriously. I am older now than when I posted what?

This "B-b-b-ut...I'm 16. lol."

What i was able to get out of this is that you hate her because
she endorses a ubiquitous and bafflingly endearing behaviour for both parties,
her personal philosophy is one you know even if her public persona speaks otherwise, thus implying you know her personally,
she somehow has had her intelligence substantiated to you in a way that makes you feel superior to her.

So what democrats don't you dislike, then, and what are the characteristics that stand them out? Zell Miller, perhaps?

Straughn, this seems like a potentially good debate, but I'm gonna be honest. I'm tired as hell, I've been playing basketball all night...and I think I'm just gonna post a little bit, jerk it...and just relax. I'm not in the mood for a real debate. But, if you want...we can continue this at another time, I promise.:)

This "B-b-b-ut...I'm 16. lol."

Oh, so what was the point you were trying to make?

As I said in the above post, I'm really tired.

Sorry I missed your point, but what were you trying to say?:)

I think I'm just gonna post a little bit, jerk it...:eek:
:D
Oh well, i guess if you're inspired by the thread ... ;)
But, if you want...we can continue this at another time, I promise.:)It'll probably come up again some other time. Ya know how it is on NS.

Oh, so what was the point you were trying to make?

As I said in the above post, I'm really tired.

Sorry I missed your point, but what were you trying to say?:)

Just that only being 16 doesn't stop you from being 'older', and I attributed becoming more conservative to getting older rather than being interrsted in current affairs. Nothing serious.
G'night

I'm still around +6.00 economically, -2.00 socially.

hmm...thats strange. To each his own though I guess. But for me, I was always more moderate conservative to begin with. My family, my religion...ect...getting into world affairs seems to just push it to the more extreme of whatever path we started out on. For you, left, for me, right.

I don't think my attitudes were strengthened by interest in world affairs; much to the contrary. I used to be a patriotic "American" and an ardent supporter of Israeli policy. Somewhere along the line I began to read seriously, and swift disillusionment with first the US and then Israel rapidly ensued. From there, well, we've had enough exchanges that you know where I stand.

I didn't begin to significantly shift left from my original more or less social democratic economic position until well after I had radicalized foreign policy-wise, and in shifting from social democrat to right-wing socialist to left-wing socialist to ardent anarcho-communist, my views on world affairs, if anything, moderated (or perhaps more accurately, radicalized in a different way, in a more traditional Marxist direction than New Leftist one, with far more skepticism towards nationalist movements.)

I've always been a strong social liberal. Always have been, and, hopefully, always will be.

Heres another similar test that seemed to hit closer to correct with me.


http://www.okcupid.com/politics


You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)


and an...

Economic Conservative
(76% permissive)

Libertarian


But I wouldnt vote for Nader on a bet

I don't think my attitudes were strengthened by interest in world affairs; much to the contrary. I used to be a patriotic "American" and an ardent supporter of Israeli policy. Somewhere along the line I began to read seriously, and swift disillusionment with first the US and then Israel rapidly ensued. From there, well, we've had enough exchanges that you know where I stand.

I didn't begin to significantly shift left from my original more or less social democratic economic position until well after I had radicalized foreign policy-wise, and in shifting from social democrat to right-wing socialist to left-wing socialist to ardent anarcho-communist, my views on world affairs, if anything, moderated (or perhaps more accurately, radicalized in a different way, in a more traditional Marxist direction than New Leftist one, with far more skepticism towards nationalist movements.)

I've always been a strong social liberal. Always have been, and, hopefully, always will be.RAmen to that. *bows*

Oh well, i guess if you're inspired by the thread ... ;)
It'll probably come up again some other time. Ya know how it is on NS.

Lol, yeah...its just one of those nights.
Anyway, I'm sure it will.
In the meantime, how have your political views changed?

Lol, yeah...its just one of those nights.
Anyway, I'm sure it will.
In the meantime, how have your political views changed?It depends on your timeframe, i suspect. I'm a smidge older than the age you had listed here.
I can honestly say the advent of abomination Bush has turned me quite a bit harder and less benign about the ways of people and the things they subscribe to - both on a political and an understandably-linked religious level.

I knew he didn't belong there before he got in, and he has more than surpassed my expectations.

I'm much better now about hearing the bullsh*t way ahead of time, and which issues are going to be divisive and explosive.
Since i've been on here, i imagine just a bit more of what i already was, with better contacts and links, really.

You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)
and an...
Economic Conservative
(76% permissive)

Libertarian


But I wouldnt vote for Nader on a bet

Well, that's good, but Nader is NOT a Libertarian. He's a Green. And they're more conservative socially than libertarians (for example, the party platform may call for legal marijuana, but it also calls for tobacco to be outlawed) and much more economically liberal- (industry regulations dictated by the environmentalist movenemt).

Hard-core centrist.

You take that back RIGHT NOW or I will form a committee

I don't think my attitudes were strengthened by interest in world affairs; much to the contrary. I used to be a patriotic "American" and an ardent supporter of Israeli policy. Somewhere along the line I began to read seriously, and swift disillusionment with first the US and then Israel rapidly ensued. From there, well, we've had enough exchanges that you know where I stand.

I didn't begin to significantly shift left from my original more or less social democratic economic position until well after I had radicalized foreign policy-wise, and in shifting from social democrat to right-wing socialist to left-wing socialist to ardent anarcho-communist, my views on world affairs, if anything, moderated (or perhaps more accurately, radicalized in a different way, in a more traditional Marxist direction than New Leftist one, with far more skepticism towards nationalist movements.)

I've always been a strong social liberal. Always have been, and, hopefully, always will be.

*gets dizzy*

Wow...It's how two people (me and you) can go along such different paths and arrive at such different idealogies. :p

Just that only being 16 doesn't stop you from being 'older', and I attributed becoming more conservative to getting older rather than being interrsted in current affairs. Nothing serious.
G'night

I can agree to that

It depends on your timeframe, i suspect. I'm a smidge older than the age you had listed here.
I can honestly say the advent of abomination Bush has turned me quite a bit harder and less benign about the ways of people and the things they subscribe to - both on a political and an understandably-linked religious level.

I knew he didn't belong there before he got in, and he has more than surpassed my expectations.

I'm much better now about hearing the bullsh*t way ahead of time, and which issues are going to be divisive and explosive.
Since i've been on here, i imagine just a bit more of what i already was, with better contacts and links, really.

How old are you and when did you first become politically aware?

Well, that's good, but Nader is NOT a Libertarian. He's a Green. And they're more conservative socially than libertarians (for example, the party platform may call for legal marijuana, but it also calls for tobacco to be outlawed) and much more economically liberal- (industry regulations dictated by the environmentalist movenemt).

point taken

How old are you and when did you first become politically aware?


Tommy can you hear me?

Tommy can you hear me?
:confused:

http://www.okcupid.com/politics


I used to get "libertarian" on that test, but now I get "centrist". I am still socially liberal, but am shifting left economically.

Sorry Tommy is a rock opera originally done by the Who about becoming aware. Tommy went deaf dumb and blind, then became the pinball wizard. In one song the lyrics go "His name is Tommy and he became aware last night" In another the lyrics include "Tommy can you hear me?"

I think probably this crowd is too young for that reference. Sorry.

How old are you and when did you first become politically aware?
Thirties, and i first became politically aware when i found out that Jimmy Carter tried to get Project Blue Book opened up.
I was partially asleep in between, and then Reagan hopped up with his SDI, and that was a lot of fun being afraid that those stupid motherf*ckers were gonna obliterate us over differences in economic oppression techniques ... don't forget all that bullsh*t ascription of "religious morals" :mad:
And then Bush senior, who actually wasn't necessarily that bad but i certainly wasn't all that keen on his first Iraq issue, seeing as how i'd already signed up for selective service.
I didn't like Clinton's Ruby Ridge or Waco issues, but i sure as hell didn't support the pursuit of his BJ with taxpayer money since the republicans were too ineffectual and flaccid to get him on Whitewater.
And now we have this, as i said, abomination in office.
No longer is the assault going unnoticed.

Heres another similar test that seemed to hit closer to correct with me.

http://www.okcupid.com/politics

You are a

Social Liberal
(98% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(5% permissive)

You are best described as a: Socialist

Thirties, and i first became politically aware when i found out that Jimmy Carter tried to get Project Blue Book opened up.
I was partially asleep in between, and then Reagan hopped up with his SDI, and that was a lot of fun being afraid that those stupid motherf*ckers were gonna obliterate us over differences in economic oppression techniques ... don't forget all that bullsh*t ascription of "religious morals" :mad:
And then Bush senior, who actually wasn't necessarily that bad but i certainly wasn't all that keen on his first Iraq issue, seeing as how i'd already signed up for selective service.
I didn't like Clinton's Ruby Ridge or Waco issues, but i sure as hell didn't support the pursuit of his BJ with taxpayer money since the republicans were too ineffectual and flaccid to get him on Whitewater.
And now we have this, as i said, abomination in office.
No longer is the assault going unnoticed.

hmm...I guess your allowed your beleifs...but I'd just like to say, its about the opposite of mine.

Except about Clinton...heres what I think about the whole situation.

Yeah, I dont see the big deal of it...so hes a scumbag cuz he cheated on his wife, whatever..thats his personal issues. But then I think, wait a minute....this guy is our President...that means that he represents his people, us..and I dont want a guy like this representing us.

But all in all, I think that it wouldnt have really mattered except that he lied straight to us. He lied to republicans, to democrats, but more importantly, to Americans. There is no wishwashing it...saying he got bad intel from the CIA...none of that...he straight up lied.

Thats my main beef with him.

You are a

Social Liberal
(98% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(5% permissive)

You are best described as a: Socialist

*shudders*

You are a

Social Liberal
(98% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(5% permissive)

You are best described as a: Socialist

"Global socialism administered by decentralized grass-roots workers councils"
—SDW from MD

^Was that you?^

hmm...I guess your allowed your beleifs...but I'd just like to say, its about the opposite of mine.

Except about Clinton...heres what I think about the whole situation.

Yeah, I dont see the big deal of it...so hes a scumbag cuz he cheated on his wife, whatever..thats his personal issues. But then I think, wait a minute....this guy is our President...that means that he represents his people, us..and I dont want a guy like this representing us.Where does it say, in no uncertain terms, that the president is the "moral leader" of the United States?
I didn't look to him for advice. I looked to him to make sure the country could take care of itself.
And it had a hella better ride than either Bush gave it or is giving it.
So Bush is representing us? Is that what the approval ratings say? 29%?
We're all a bunch of stupid f*cking "born-again" pseudo-religious hicks who don't even have a firm grasp of our native language, and have had just about everything handed to us? Is that how it is?
I have almost NOTHING in common with Senor SmirkingChimpf*ck. I doubt you have a lot either.

But all in all, I think that it wouldnt have really mattered except that he lied straight to us. He lied to republicans, to democrats, but more importantly, to Americans. There is no wishwashing it...saying he got bad intel from the CIA...none of that...he straight up lied. Bush, of course, right? That's who you mean? Just making sure that you mean the difference between Clinton and Bush here.

BND prelim report
Downing Street Memos (yes there's several/yes i've seen them)
Butler Report
Prelim Duelfer Report and addendum

"Global socialism administered by decentralized grass-roots workers councils"
—SDW from MD

^Was that you?^

Yes. The initials were fake, though.

You are a

Social Liberal
(70% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(98% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian




w00t! w00t! :D

Here we go.

Economic Left/Right: -9.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

Here we go.

Economic Left/Right: -9.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

Soheran, I think you have a long lost twin! :D

Soheran, I think you have a long lost twin! :D

My real brother is about as Communist as you are. We don't agree very often.

Strange. It was my interest in world affairs which changed me from a moderate US-style liberal into, ultimately, the hard leftist I am now.

I'm with you - and I'm not "young". At 30, I hardly feel that I'm going to "grow up" and become a Conservative.

Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

shit, I'm now to the right (1.13) wasn't expecting that, always been left before! I'm still way to the left of tony blair though!!!

But all in all, I think that it wouldnt have really mattered except that he lied straight to us. He lied to republicans, to democrats, but more importantly, to Americans. There is no wishwashing it...saying he got bad intel from the CIA...none of that...he straight up lied.

Thats my main beef with him.

But he lied about something that was none of our business. To me, that's different than lying about something we had the right to be asking...

I'm still somewhere around +1.5, -10.00.

On the OkCupid test, I got:

54% socially permissive (social liberal)
78% economically permissive (economic conservative)

= capitalist :)

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.23 And there you are sir,my political compass.

As of scant moments ago:

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

I have done the test three times now, and I believe I always ended up in the same quadrant.