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This thread is for coders fluent in both .... which do you prefer, and why? I myself like Java better; even though it is slower, I find it much simpler to get things done with it than C++, once you accept the fact that all objects are pointers.

As far as compilers go, please say which one you prefer to use ... I use MS Visual Studio for C++ and Eclipse for Java.

My enjoyment goes to C++ more. Seems more logical, and Java took me a while to catch on, what with their sneaky Array Lists.

Object Pascal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Pascal)... :eek:

(I prefered -- I haven't written any code for a while now -- the design of Java over the monstrosity that is C/C++, largely for the same reason I prefered Pascal before and prefer *nix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*nix) operating systems now: KISS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle). However, ultimately it comes down to the requirements of the task at hand. Every tool has a proper application.)

I prefer Java, no specific reason... it just makes more sense to me:) Eclipse is the best for Java IMO

In my java class we used Notepad + Command Prompt to do stuff.

I like Java, but I like Smalltalk better. And I like Ruby even more.

In my java class we used Notepad + Command Prompt to do stuff.
That sounds terrible. Although, at a coding contest I went to, the guy that won (by himself, in a team competition) used Notepad. It was incredible.

That sounds terrible. Although, at a coding contest I went to, the guy that won (by himself, in a team competition) used Notepad. It was incredible.
AT SCSU for our ACM club we used notepad for our java compition ... we won rather handily

Anyways prefer c++ or c ... when I program I am usualy a network programmer

AT SCSU for our ACM club we used notepad for our java compition ... we won rather handily

Anyways prefer c++ or c ... when I program I am usualy a network programmer

No, no, if you're really a die-hard programmer, you use vi.

And can do it blindfolded.

No, no, if you're really a die-hard programmer, you use vi.

And can do it blindfolded.

With your feet?

With your feet?
No, your eyelashes, silly.

No, no, if you're really a die-hard programmer, you use vi.

And can do it blindfolded.
Bullshit VIM is lightyears ahead

Anyways while I am absolutly positivly a linux geek we were restricted to windows for the compititon

C++ because I never used Java..

*tries to remember C++ commands*

emm..

Shit.

I can't believe this. I forgot them already. :(

I think I'll go die now.

C++ because I never used Java..

*tries to remember C++ commands*

emm..

Shit.

I can't believe this. I forgot them already. :(

I think I'll go die now.
Yeah, I'm going to have to go through old code before starting my job. -_-
Not that they teach you anything useful in school. I learned more about java in the one java class I took than I learned about C/C++ in the three C/C++ classes I took. All they do is teach you to manually create structures provided by the default libraries.

Yeah, I'm going to have to go through old code before starting my job. -_-
Not that they teach you anything useful in school. I learned more about java in the one java class I took than I learned about C/C++ in the three C/C++ classes I took. All they do is teach you to manually create structures provided by the default libraries.
My high school provides no programming classes whatsoever. I took a introductory college class on java, and I learned very little that I hadn't already taught myself. Anyway, once you've learned one language, it's not very difficult to learn another one, especially is the change is between two similar languages such as Java and C++.

C++ is definitely my preference. The structure makes sense and it generally runs fairly efficiently once compiled (if the programmer codes it efficiently, of course).

Java is like the Locust of the computer world. It consumes all system resources in its path and then it moves on to take other system resources.

My high school provides no programming classes whatsoever. I took a introductory college class on java, and I learned very little that I hadn't already taught myself. Anyway, once you've learned one language, it's not very difficult to learn another one, especially is the change is between two similar languages such as Java and C++.
I'm talking about college classes.

I'm talking about college classes.
So was I, but it was introductory, or more like remedial, since most of the college students started out knowing absolutely nothing about java. Anyway, it was the only class that they permitted high schoolers to take for credit.

I'm talking about college classes.
*points and laughs*

I take it in highschool :)

Java. C++ is in some ways more logical and obvious, but Java is more flexible and powerful, and better suited to modeling real-world interactions, objects, etc. and working with complex structures. It's also more logical and intuitive when you get to the inter-class/object-interactions level.

*points and laughs*

I take it in highschool :)
Which has what to do with what?

So was I, but it was introductory, or more like remedial, since most of the college students started out knowing absolutely nothing about java. Anyway, it was the only class that they permitted high schoolers to take for credit.
No, you were talking about high school with a brief touch of college classes, again, nothing to do with what I was talking about.

No, you were talking about high school with a brief touch of college classes, again, nothing to do with what I was talking about.
Actually just a brief touch of college, because my high school offers nothing on the subject. What? I never said I had vast quantities of experience with college education.

Which has what to do with what?


No, you were talking about high school with a brief touch of college classes, again, nothing to do with what I was talking about.
I have no idea.

Leave me alone.