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Favourite Final Fantasy?

Hispanionla
17-05-2006, 22:20
There's enough of them to make a thread just about them. Wether you'd rather be school-drivin' in FF8 or pixel-throwin' in FF1, they're all great games.

Which one do you like the most?

Personally, I always thought 3/6 and 2/4 were pretty good, but the best is FF8 hands down. FF5 gets credit for awesomeness.

FF7 is overrated.
Aigosthena
18-05-2006, 11:25
I just played ff1 and it is really awesome,got me hooked.It's funny to watch me play that emulated thingy on Pentium 4 equivalent^_^
Cross-Eyed Penguins
18-05-2006, 12:06
FFX-2 is the worst final fantasy. 7's good, 8 and 9 are okay and the original just has such a classic plot.
Kazus
18-05-2006, 14:33
First let me just say FF7 sucked and heres why: http://www.toastyfrog.com/toastywiki/index.php/Site/FinalFantasyVII

Next, let me say that the actual 2,3, and 5 that didnt come out in america should be up there. 3 (not 6, 3) was a pretty good one.

Final Fantasy 1 is probably the best choice.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
18-05-2006, 14:52
FF6 has the best gameplay, and comes second (closely after FF7) story-wise. Most parts of the game are pretty intresting (and some are simply wonderful), and it takes a replay before some of them begin to border being boring. It is overall the best, and is quite replayable. It is one of the few games that I have got so into that it left me with a somewhat surreal feeling for hours afterwards.

FF7, due to the gameplay, gets somewhat boring after some time without the story progressing, once you have played it for a while. The story, which is the best of all FF-ones, was what made me keep playing it. It is overall a great game, but the gameplay has some serious flaws, limiting the replayability. (I probably will play it through a second time, but only after waiting some more; otherwise, it won't be worth it)
Potarius
18-05-2006, 14:57
FFVII. It had a great story, its graphics were perfect at the time, and the music is, to this day, some of the best game music around.

Not only that, but it did the whole Dystopian/Cyberpunk setting perfectly. A good amount of the world was in shambles, but not every single bit of it. And Midgar is still one of the coolest RPG city designs... I mean, seriously. Poor people living below an elevated plate that holds the wealthier people? Fantastic.

Even with all of that said, I still like the Chrono Trigger series the most.
New Stalinberg
18-05-2006, 15:08
Why isn't 10 up there? I played ten and loved it. 10-2 is also fun, but quite silly.
Egg and chips
18-05-2006, 16:08
As I've only played VII, I shall vote VII.

Please dont hit me for my lack of FF playingness...
Kazus
18-05-2006, 16:11
Well I am almost convinced that people who voted for 7 have not played any other FF game BEFORE 7. Id actually like to make friends with the other person that voted 1.
Potarius
18-05-2006, 16:14
Well I am almost convinced that people who voted for 7 have not played any other FF game BEFORE 7. Id actually like to make friends with the other person that voted 1.

I've played II (though only parts of it), IV, V, VI, and VII.

My favorite is still VII, followed by V, and then by VI.
Kazus
18-05-2006, 16:17
I've played II (though only parts of it), IV, V, VI, and VII.

My favorite is still VII, followed by V, and then by VI.

How? 7 was god awful compared to the earlier ones. Ive heard good things about 5 but havent played it yet, and 6 was infinitely better than 7. Actually, 2 (yes, 2, not 4) was pretty bad, and it was made by nazis who thought losing experience after you die is a good gameplay mechanic.
Potarius
18-05-2006, 16:20
How? 7 was god awful compared to the earlier ones. Ive heard good things about 5 but havent played it yet, and 6 was infinitely better than 7. Actually, 2 (yes, 2, not 4) was pretty bad, and it was made by nazis who thought losing experience after you die is a good gameplay mechanic.

I thought VII was excellent, and I'm not going to have someone I don't even know tell me otherwise.
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 16:25
VI. I've played a few of the earlier ones, but haven't played anything after that one.
The Coral Islands
18-05-2006, 16:27
FFX was fun
Thriceaddict
18-05-2006, 16:28
VI. Followed by IX and VIII fucking sucks.
Potarius
18-05-2006, 16:29
VI. I've played a few of the earlier ones, but haven't played anything after that one.

It's too bad that VII is such a massive download. You'd like it, if you liked VI.
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 16:32
It's too bad that VII is such a massive download. You'd like it, if you liked VI.

I tried pricing it on ebay, too, but I couldn't find it for less than $40, which is a bit steep for such an old game. I think they're re-releasing it or something anyway, aren't they?

Meh. I still think Secret of Mana > Final Fantasy, anyway, as far as console RPGs go.
Potarius
18-05-2006, 16:38
I tried pricing it on ebay, too, but I couldn't find it for less than $40, which is a bit steep for such an old game. I think they're re-releasing it or something anyway, aren't they?

Meh. I still think Secret of Mana > Final Fantasy, anyway, as far as console RPGs go.

They've hinted at the possibility of a remake for the PS3, but they say it'll be when they don't have a lot of other projects in the way (and Square - Enix have a buttload of projects underway at the moment). And yeah, it's a pretty steep price, but it's steep because it's in high demand, thanks to the Advent Children movie.

And the Chrono Trigger series is the best ever. Chrono Trigger + Radical Dreamers + Chrono Cross + Chrono Crisis (production's on hiatus, but I bet it'll make a comeback).
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 16:40
They've hinted at the possibility of a remake for the PS3, but they say it'll be when they don't have a lot of other projects in the way (and Square - Enix have a buttload of projects underway at the moment). And yeah, it's a pretty steep price, but it's steep because it's in high demand, thanks to the Advent Children movie.

Too steep for me to pay...especially when I don't even know if it'll run on a 64-bit machine.

And the Chrono Trigger series is the best ever. Chrono Trigger + Radical Dreamers + Chrono Cross + Chrono Crisis (production's on hiatus, but I bet it'll make a comeback).

Well, Chrono Trigger was undeniably good, but I didn't enjoy it as much as SoM for whatever reason.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 16:45
my favs are 1,3 (jap),5(jap),6,& 7




......and VIII fucking sucks.


FFVIII was the worst waste of time. The mini card game was more fun than the actuall game itself, and I stopped playing when i realized i was only advanced in the game to get new cards. Also the limit break setup was terrible, not being able to use it until you are near death.




oh and btw why isnt Final Fantasy : Mystic Quest not on here???? :rolleyes:
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 16:46
oh and btw why isnt Final Fantasy : Mystic Quest not on here???? :rolleyes:

That was the lame toned down kiddie version, right? :p
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 17:18
That was the lame toned down kiddie version, right? :p

its also known as FF:US i believe. rented it from lackluster many a years ago and returned it the next day, beat that damn game in 15 HOURS!!!!!!!!! and i wasn't even running right through the game
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 17:21
its also known as FF:US i believe. rented it from lackluster many a years ago and returned it the next day, beat that damn game in 15 HOURS!!!!!!!!! and i wasn't even running right through the game

Heheh. Yep, that's the one. :p
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 17:23
Heheh. Yep, that's the one. :p


i believe final fantasy adventures for the original Game Boy should have been mentioned here as well, had much fun with all 3 i played.
Avika
18-05-2006, 17:44
1. Final Fantasy. Can't beat a classic.
followed by Final Fantasy II from Dawn of Souls(a remake of the true[Japanese] Final Fantasy II(
Final Fantasy X is dead last. Too many cheesy cutscenes and I wanted to kill the main characters, except Yuna, who was the only female who could be considered hot by anyone imo.
Teh_pantless_hero
18-05-2006, 17:44
Final Fantasy, the movie.

And what about Final Fantasy Tactics? The PS1 version, not the GBA version. The GBA version fucking sucks, I say this only because I have never started playing it. Why not? Because the intro is an hour fucking long and that is skipping as much text as possible.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 17:46
Final Fantasy, the movie.

And what about Final Fantasy Tactics? The PS1 version, not the GBA version. The GBA version fucking sucks, I say this only because I have never started playing it. Why not? Because the intro is an hour fucking long and that is skipping as much text as possible.


FF Tactics!!!!!!!!!!

forgot all about that gem of a game!
Kazus
18-05-2006, 17:47
its also known as FF:US i believe. rented it from lackluster many a years ago and returned it the next day, beat that damn game in 15 HOURS!!!!!!!!! and i wasn't even running right through the game

Ok...

1) You wasted 15 hours of one day in such a manner?

2) This is one of the problems I have with FF7. It created the "If a game is not 60 hours long its too short and therefore sucks" mentality.
JuNii
18-05-2006, 17:47
There's enough of them to make a thread just about them. Wether you'd rather be school-drivin' in FF8 or pixel-throwin' in FF1, they're all great games.

Which one do you like the most?

Personally, I always thought 3/6 and 2/4 were pretty good, but the best is FF8 hands down. FF5 gets credit for awesomeness.

FF7 is overrated.
I like 3/6 also. then there's 2 which I'm finally playing.

I also like 10 as well as 10/2, and 1 was the first NES game I bought with my first paycheck...

the rest I never finished due to RL constantly interrupting.
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 17:48
Ok...

1) You wasted 15 hours of one day in such a manner?

2) This is one of the problems I have with FF7. It created the "If a game is not 60 hours long its too short and therefore sucks" mentality.

Well, 15 hours is too short. I'd be pretty annoyed if I spent money on a game and beat it in that amount of time.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 17:49
Ok...

1) You wasted 15 hours of one day in such a manner?
.

I was sick, had nothing else to do. and it was an 9hr one day 6 the next deal.

actually i may have beaten that game in shorter time than 15 hours....it still sucked none the less.


but hey at least i didnt spend 15 hours on shaq fu, then i would have to hang myself.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 17:50
Well, 15 hours is too short. I'd be pretty annoyed if I spent money on a game and beat it in that amount of time.


which is why im glad i rented it, shortest span of a rental for me besides superman 64 and quake 64*shudders*
Kazus
18-05-2006, 18:03
Well, 15 hours is too short. I'd be pretty annoyed if I spent money on a game and beat it in that amount of time.

Alot of amazing games are 15-20 hours. You cant tell me youve never played a good game thats less than 30 hours. I mean Contra kicked ass and it takes 15 MINUTES to beat.
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 18:06
Alot of amazing games are 15-20 hours. You cant tell me youve never played a good game thats less than 30 hours. I mean Contra kicked ass and it takes 15 MINUTES to beat.

Sure, but it has replayability. Most RPG games don't have a lot of that. You're probably going to play through the whole thing once, unless it's really, really good. If that one time lasts for only 15 whole hours, you've been gipped.

I will eat my hat if you name me a couple of decent RPG games that take less than 15 hours to beat on first try, though, heh.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 18:06
Alot of amazing games are 15-20 hours. You cant tell me youve never played a good game thats less than 30 hours. I mean Contra kicked ass and it takes 15 MINUTES to beat.


but mystic quest was 15 hours and was a POS all the way. through about 8 hours in i got an item that displayed where all monsters were on map, dodged everyone not leveling my character up much and still beat the game. was quite sad.


games that are only 15 hours are fun if they are not RPGs, Contra is not an RPG, but still shitloads of fun
Perjam55
18-05-2006, 18:08
ff8 i don't know why...
Maybe it's because it's the only one i've played....:p
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 18:11
Sure, but it has replayability. Most RPG games don't have a lot of that. You're probably going to play through the whole thing once, unless it's really, really good. If that one time lasts for only 15 whole hours, you've been gipped.

exactly why i love rpgs. if you dont have much money, invest 50-60 bucks and have a game to last you 60+ hours...always sounds like a good deal to me



I will eat my hat if you name me a couple of decent RPG games that take less than 15 hours to beat on first try, though, heh.

Earthbound (wait that took me about 20)

ummmmm......

damn! :p

and i wanted to see some hat eatin'
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 18:21
exactly why i love rpgs. if you dont have much money, invest 50-60 bucks and have a game to last you 60+ hours...always sounds like a good deal to me

Yup, and epic strategy games too :p




Earthbound (wait that took me about 20)

ummmmm......

damn! :p

and i wanted to see some hat eatin'

That was alright. I never finished it though, I got bored.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 18:32
That was alright. I never finished it though, I got bored.


the game gets a little more interesting as you go along in it, but not much.
Kanabia
18-05-2006, 18:35
the game gets a little more interesting as you go along in it, but not much.

It's been ages, I can't remember where i got up to. I vaguely remember a desert, but it might have been further along than that.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 18:37
It's been ages, I can't remember where i got up to. I vaguely remember a desert, but it might have been further along than that.

yeah its been forever, i dont even remember most of it.

i just beat the hell out of that little kid now in smash bros melee:D
Szanth
18-05-2006, 18:55
FFVII would've made a better CGI movie than a game.

FF2 (Yes, 2. The 2 with Cecil. The 2 with Cecil that says "Final Fantasy II" on the front of the Super Nintendo cartridge that I have to show idiots who think they know more than me that go "You mean 4. That was 4, it was in Japan." No. It's in english, it's from America, it's number fucking 2.) is my favorite.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 18:56
FFVII would've made a better CGI movie than a game.

FF2 (Yes, 2. The 2 with Cecil. The 2 with Cecil that says "Final Fantasy II" on the front of the Super Nintendo cartridge that I have to show idiots who think they know more than me that go "You mean 4. That was 4, it was in Japan." No. It's in english, it's from America, it's number fucking 2.) is my favorite.

its FF2 (US) FF4 everywhere else.
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:12
yeah its been forever, i dont even remember most of it.

i just beat the hell out of that little kid now in smash bros melee:D

Earthbound owns the hell out of any other RPG in the last twenty years, with Super Mario RPG being its ONLY competition whatsoever.
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:15
its FF2 (US) FF4 everywhere else.

I know, but I'm in the US, and I used to have people telling me I had a Japanese game I was playing because it was FF2 and not FF4. I had to pull it out of my backpack and shove it in their face, making them look at the words "FINAL FANTASY II" with a moogle next to them, and in english. Until I did that, they wouldn't shut up about it having to be #4.
Potarius
18-05-2006, 19:17
Earthbound owns the hell out of any other RPG in the last twenty years, with Super Mario RPG being its ONLY competition whatsoever.

...What the hell? Earthbound and Super Mario RPG have nothing on the Chrono Trigger series. Nothing.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:24
...What the hell? Earthbound and Super Mario RPG have nothing on the Chrono Trigger series. Nothing.


damn right, as much as i love super mario rpg, and i do. Chrono Trigger series is better, but my favorite (non-FF) is definitely Secret of Mana 2 for SNES
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:24
...What the hell? Earthbound and Super Mario RPG have nothing on the Chrono Trigger series. Nothing.

Chrono Trigger slipped my mind - sorry.


Though I wouldn't say they have NOTHING on it. Each game is awesome in its own right, each with distinctly different settings and storytelling techniques and combat styles.

I'd say the three pretty much rule over all that is RPG in the world, next-gen and PC included.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:25
there was also tales of phantasia....
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:26
damn right, as much as i love super mario rpg, and i do. Chrono Trigger series is better, but my favorite (non-FF) is definitely Secret of Mana 2 for SNES

Meh. Maybe if I hadn't played SoM2 as Final Fantasy Legend (or was it adventure?) I wouldn't be so sour about it, but regardless I don't think it was all that great of a game. I actually liked Legend of Mana for the PS a lot better.
Potarius
18-05-2006, 19:28
there was also tales of phantasia....

And Terranigma. Don't ever forget about Terranigma.
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:28
there was also tales of phantasia....

Never played it, but I've played other "Tales" games and if they follow the same path I'd say they're decent but still must serve the almighty Boy in a Striped Shirt, Italian With a Moustache, and Speechless Red-head With Baggy Clothes.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:29
Meh. Maybe if I hadn't played SoM2 as Final Fantasy Legend (or was it adventure?) I wouldn't be so sour about it, but regardless I don't think it was all that great of a game. I actually liked Legend of Mana for the PS a lot better.


hmmm never played the mana for PS.....any different than the snes version (besides graphics obviously)

final fantasy adventures were the game boy games, legend im not so sure
Fascist Emirates
18-05-2006, 19:31
I've played them all, but only defeated X, X-2, VII and VIII.

X-2 is the worst thus far, and VII is slightly over- rated.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:31
And Terranigma. Don't ever forget about Terranigma.


i have terranigma on my puter, love it to death.

ogre battle another one of my favs


Super Nintendo : Best System for RPGS ever.
and no one will make me change that statement ever

final fantasy, lufia, ogre battle, EB, chrono trigger....every great RPG next to Phantasy Star and Shining Force made its start on the SNES (if not the NES)
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:32
Never played it, but I've played other "Tales" games and if they follow the same path I'd say they're decent but still must serve the almighty Boy in a Striped Shirt, Italian With a Moustache, and Speechless Red-head With Baggy Clothes.


tales of phantasia is the only tales game i played, and i loved every minute of it, never beat it though, i need to get around to doing that.
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:33
hmmm never played the mana for PS.....any different than the snes version (besides graphics obviously)

final fantasy adventures were the game boy games, legend im not so sure

FFL and FFA were both for the gameboy, yeah. One of them was exactly the same thing as Secret of Mana.

Legend of Mana was really fun, you should download the ISO and play it on a PS emulator - I doubt you'll be able to find it anywhere, I think it's pretty rare.
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:34
i have terranigma on my puter, love it to death.

ogre battle another one of my favs


Super Nintendo : Best System for RPGS ever.
and no one will make me change that statement ever

Never change the truth, brother.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:36
did anyone enjoy Lufia?
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:37
did anyone enjoy Lufia?
Lufia was alright. Wasn't anything compared to the Triad of Power, though.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:38
Lufia was alright. Wasn't anything compared to the Triad of Power, though.


i was more of a fan of the Ultima series myself, oh and also Dragon Warrior
Fascist Emirates
18-05-2006, 19:40
Anyone play the original Lunar?
Potarius
18-05-2006, 19:40
Remember the last part of Terranigma, when you finally get back to Crysta? You talk to the guy who's constantly fishing on the tiny bridge, and then that voice echoes... The guy then turns to a soul orb and chases you. And not only that, anyone you talk to does the same thing, that creepy music starts playing, and the sky turns red.

That was one hell of a freaky plot twist.
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:41
Ultima... never liked it. *shrugs*

Dragon Warrior was okay. It wasn't great, though.
New Burmesia
18-05-2006, 19:41
FF8 rocks, but theres nothing better than FF9 when you're feeling really, really depressed.

*Rides away on chocobo*
Nagapura
18-05-2006, 19:42
I've played: I, II, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, Tactics, and Legends I, II, and III. I've completed about five of them. VIII was my favorite.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:43
Remember the last part of Terranigma, when you finally get back to Crysta? You talk to the guy who's constantly fishing on the tiny bridge, and then that voice echoes... The guy then turns to a soul orb and chases you. And not only that, anyone you talk to does the same thing, that creepy music starts playing, and the sky turns red.

That was one hell of a freaky plot twist.


yeah it was. did they ever make sequels? (post SNES)

im so out of the loop on whats new i just stick to the old systems. I have an Xbox and a cube, but i still have the most fun with my SNES or NES.

Tecmo Super Bowl is still the greatest football game of all time
Fascist Emirates
18-05-2006, 19:43
I've played: I, II, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, Tactics, and Legends I, II, and III. I've completed about five of them. VIII was my favorite.

Semper Fi.
The Coral Islands
18-05-2006, 19:47
Did anyone here ever play Seventh Saga for SNES?

That was a fun game, and had a super soundtrack during the flying over the ocean scene.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:49
Did anyone here ever play Seventh Saga for SNES?

That was a fun game, and had a super soundtrack during the flying over the ocean scene.


I remember 7th Saga, damn been ages since i played it. I also remember 8x8 eyes

anyone here enjoy Romance of the Three Kingdoms????
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:51
I see there are some fans of FF8 here.

Am i the only one who vomited at the draw system, and their limit break system????? Really hated 8
Szanth
18-05-2006, 19:55
I see there are some fans of FF8 here.

Am i the only one who vomited at the draw system, and their limit break system????? Really hated 8

Yeah, I hated everything about 8, including the plotline.

7th Saga was meh.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 19:57
Yeah, I hated everything about 8, including the plotline.


there also wasnt one damn decent playable character in 8 i think rionas (sp?) dog was the best character in 8.

only good thing about that game was the card game.
New Burmesia
18-05-2006, 19:58
I see there are some fans of FF8 here.

Am i the only one who vomited at the draw system, and their limit break system????? Really hated 8

I hated the draw system intensely, being a magic fan (Way cooler than pitiful weapons) but the perfect storyline, music and graphics cut it for me. And the fact that Rinoa was hot.

If you thought the limit break was bad on FF8, try Trance on FF9. It's so, so, so compeletly shit!

I'd like to combine all of FF8 with the magic/learning system of FF9, or FFX. That would be über.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 20:00
7 to me had the best magic/ summon system. loved the materia.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 20:06
another RPG/Adv classic to me is Star Tropics, oh and also Crystalis
Szanth
18-05-2006, 20:13
7 to me had the best magic/ summon system. loved the materia.

I hated the materia. "Yeah, you have to use this one materia for about oh ten hours straight doing nothing but random battles so you can master it. Then do it again with every other materia you want."

Fuck materia, I want spells.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 20:14
Any favorite spells?? (non-summon)

Meteor and Ultima are my favorite
New Burmesia
18-05-2006, 20:16
Any favorite spells?? (non-summon)

Meteor and Ultima are my favorite

Demi! Always cool graphics, minus FF9.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 20:20
Demi! Always cool graphics, minus FF9.

forgot all about Demi. I was also a fan of Osmosis and Poison
New Burmesia
18-05-2006, 20:24
forgot all about Demi. I was also a fan of Osmosis and Poison

Osmose is always useful in longer magic-based battles, but a good supply of Ether stocks MP more. Status changes like Sleep/Poison/Blind to me are a bit useless, either you're fighting an immune boss or killing fodder in one move. (Pretty much). But the best: Petrification. Rare, but I love it when it happens! Although I never know why petrification moves are called 'break'. Wierd.
Nagapura
18-05-2006, 20:24
Flare. Non-elemental damage, baby!
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 20:27
my favorite summon is a tie between knights of the round in ff7 and alexander in ff9
Nagapura
18-05-2006, 20:37
my favorite summon is a tie between knights of the round in ff7 and alexander in ff9

Where are the knights of the round? I've never found them.
Minoriteeburg
18-05-2006, 20:54
Where are the knights of the round? I've never found them.

here


Knights Of The Round
Found on the island only on the final disc. It is unmarked at the top right of the map, and requires a Gold Chocobo to reach it.
Neuvo Rica
18-05-2006, 20:54
FFVII Rocks!!!!

Even more now it's given me an excuse to spam
Heron-Marked Warriors
18-05-2006, 21:35
my favorite summon is a tie between knights of the round in ff7

blech. Wrecked the game, did that (IMO, it made it too easy to beat everything, except Ruby & Emerald weapon, and even they weren't that tough.)

7 was good, but I massively overplayed it so I haven't ever gone back to it. 8 was ok as far as I got, but I could never get the final disc to load (and whoever said the card minigame was great was right). 9 was good, maybe better than 7. Probably, in fact. I got bored of 6 (or was that 5? or was it both?)
Bubba smurf
19-05-2006, 14:48
what about FF tactics for PS1????? that was the best game out of them all
Danicus Rex
19-05-2006, 14:57
I would have to say FF 6 or Tactics. Those are both phenomenal games, and I have no problem whatsoever replaying them over and over. But to be fair, the best RPG of all time is Chrono Trigger. My GOD do I love that game.:fluffle:
Cromotar
19-05-2006, 15:51
FF1: Classic gaming, solid story, though pretty hard.
FF2: Played some. Some interesting elements.
FF3: Haven't played.
FF4: Great story and characters.
FF5: Okay story. Great music and game mechanics.
FF6: Great story, music, and characters, but falls apart towards the end.
FF7: Love the characters, good story if you can understand all of it. Lots of challenging bonus thingies (ie Weapons). Great music.
FF8: Good story. Kinda boring characters, though I like the game mechanics. More great music.
FF9: Okay story, don't care for the characters. Decent music.
FF10: ...go away.

So my favorite will have to be FFVII. It's the only FF game I've played through twice, defeating all hidden bosses.

'Course, Star Ocean 2 pwns them all.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 16:37
blech. Wrecked the game, did that (IMO, it made it too easy to beat everything, except Ruby & Emerald weapon, and even they weren't that tough.)

7 was good, but I massively overplayed it so I haven't ever gone back to it. 8 was ok as far as I got, but I could never get the final disc to load (and whoever said the card minigame was great was right). 9 was good, maybe better than 7. Probably, in fact. I got bored of 6 (or was that 5? or was it both?)


the mini card game was great in FF8, and 9 is one i need to play again, only got to disc 2 on that one, then was distracted by other games. But alas i no longer have a playstation....:(
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:09
I loved both VII and VIII equally. Squall was one of the best FF characters ever made in my view.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:10
. Squall was one of the best FF characters ever made in my view.

definitely had the best weapon
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:11
I loved both VII and VIII equally. Squall was one of the best FF characters ever made in my view.

Not saying much.
They're all bizzarre, googly-eyed and with stupid hair. And completely lame.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:11
I'm sick of the franchise, personally. especially 7 and 8.

It may just be that I hate the fans more than the product itself, though.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:12
I'm sick of the franchise, personally. especially 7 and 8.

It may just be that I hate the fans more than the product itself, though.

The fanboys are a bunch of weirdos.

Hehehe.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:12
definitely had the best weapon
True. Also, his personality was awesome. Unlike the usual idiot/bum thief characters that Square-Enix has become so keen on, Squall was a silent loner. I dig that. I don't like loud, abrassive idiots as my extended digital personae.

What was cool about FF 6 was that it was the only one ( I think) to have a female lead.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:13
Not saying much.
They're all bizzarre, googly-eyed and with stupid hair. And completely lame.
Welcome to anime-esque rpgs. As for lame, I don't think Squall was lame at all.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
22-05-2006, 17:14
FF3: Haven't played.
You should; it's the best of the NES ones, being pretty long with a good story, and nice gameplay (what FF5's was based upon).
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:14
Welcome to anime-esque rpgs. As for lame, I don't think Squall was lame at all.

His sword must have required the entire industrial steel output of the northern hemisphere to make.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:15
True. Also, his personality was awesome. Unlike the usual idiot/bum thief characters that Square-Enix has become so keen on, Squall was a silent loner. I dig that. I don't like loud, abrassive idiots as my extended digital personae.

Agreed, although I was a fan of cloud, but definitely not Tidus *THWACK*


What was cool about FF 6 was that it was the only one ( I think) to have a female lead.

Wasnt the main character of FFX2 Yuna? (i havent played it honestly)
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:15
His sword must have required the entire industrial steel output of the northern hemisphere to make.
In a world with magic, you would think that such an issue would be non-existent, wouldn't you?
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:15
The fanboys are a bunch of weirdos.

Hehehe.

And the fangirls, too. I had the opportunity to watch "Advent Children" with some people from my animation class last year. At one point one girl exclaimed "that Sephiroth, what a man!", to which I replied "Yeah, all 53 lbs of him".

I don't really care for the structure of the game, either. lining up and taking turns to fight is pretty silly. I also don't care for playing through a linear RPG in control of all of the characters. I'm too much of a social gamer.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:17
Agreed, although I was a fan of cloud, but definitely not Tidus *THWACK*
Cloud was cool. The ones I meant were Zidane and Tidus.

Wasnt the main character of FFX2 Yuna? (i havent played it honestly)
True. Although to call that game a FF is an affront to the entire series. FF XIII will have a female lead apparently.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:18
And the fangirls, too. I had the opportunity to watch "Advent Children" with some people from my animation class last year. At one point one girl exclaimed "that Sephiroth, what a man!", to which I replied "Yeah, all 53 lbs of him".
Played FF VII? He is around 180 lbs, at least. Not at all skinny. Not even in Advent Children.

I don't really care for the structure of the game, either. lining up and taking turns to fight is pretty silly. I also don't care for playing through a linear RPG in control of all of the characters. I'm too much of a social gamer.
Same here. The new FFs are doing away with the traditional series fight structure though. I usually prefer Western rpgs like Oblivion, but Japanese ones can also be awesome, and a great release. I love manga.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:19
Most FF villains could easily blow away in the wind, or refuse to fight if their make-up artist doesn't arrive in time for a pre-fight touchup.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:20
Cloud was cool. The ones I meant were Zidane and Tidus.


zidane was 9 right??? sorry i always change the names so i dont remember the originals. If so he was a little punk. Tidus still the worst though, oh and Cecil from final fantasy mystic quest (or whatever his name was)


True. Although to call that game a FF is an affront to the entire series. FF XIII will have a female lead apparently.

nice. are they coming to the xbox? my ps2 died, and ive been cryin on the inside ever since....
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:20
Most FF villains could easily blow away in the wind, or refuse to fight if their make-up artist doesn't arrive in time for a pre-fight touchup.
Not much a fan of beautiful characters eh? That is the one aspect of Japanese rpgs I love.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:21
I'm a fan of FFVI (FFIII in America.) tho I still play the others.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:21
zidane was 9 right??? sorry i always change the names so i dont remember the originals. If so he was a little punk. Tidus still the worst though, oh and Cecil from final fantasy mystic quest (or whatever his name was)
Yep, IX indeed. He sucked.


nice. are they coming to the xbox? my ps2 died, and ive been cryin on the inside ever since....
No. I believe XII is coming to the PS 2 only, and XIII to the PS 3.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:21
They're not 'beautiful', they're freakish! Seriously, am I supposed to take these things seriously?

'Oh no! He fluttered his eyelashes at me!'
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:21
Most FF villains could easily blow away in the wind, or refuse to fight if their make-up artist doesn't arrive in time for a pre-fight touchup.
Nah, only Kafka's like that
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:22
They're not 'beautiful', they're freakish! Seriously, am I supposed to take these things seriously?

'Oh no! He fluttered his eyelashes at me!'
The Japanese would beg to differ. So would I. :p
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:23
The Japanese would beg to differ. So would I. :p

Villains should be scary, or at least look like they're capable of holding their weapon without help.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:23
No. I believe XII is coming to the PS 2 only, and XIII to the PS 3.


damn...well until i get a ps2 again ill just be playing 1-6 on my PC :D

I also have some dragon warrior games to finish.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:24
True. Although to call that game a FF is an affront to the entire series. FF XIII will have a female lead apparently.
and why? it's a first for the FF series, a true sequel. it's fun going around and meeting the people from FFX and seeing how their lives turned out as well as revisiting familiar places.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:24
Villains should be scary, or at least look like they're capable of holding their weapon without help.
It's fantasy. It's meant to be escapism. If you want realism alongside it, play a Western rpg.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:25
and why? it's a first for the FF series, a true sequel. it's fun going around and meeting the people from FFX and seeing how their lives turned out as well as revisiting familiar places.
I found it dull. I also didn't like its take on the job system, which paled by comparison to the flexible one in FF V, or even the somewhat good one of IX.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:25
damn...well until i get a ps2 again ill just be playing 1-6 on my PC :D

I also have some dragon warrior games to finish.
Just remember, when you do get a PS2, don't forget to put it in a "Wait" state before turning it off.

tho getting a used PS2 should be easy, and cheap. :cool:
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:26
damn...well until i get a ps2 again ill just be playing 1-6 on my PC :D

I also have some dragon warrior games to finish.
Don't. Save your cash up and get a PS 3 in Autumn. Much better value for your cash.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:26
It's fantasy. It's meant to be escapism. If you want realism alongside it, play a Western rpg.

I play Western RPGs. Escapism shouldn't reach the retarded level's of Squall's blade.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:27
I play Western RPGs. Escapism shouldn't reach the retarded level's of Squall's blade.
Why limit your imagination? I always thought it was great that the Japanese rpgs were so free in thinking. I always add a touch of their escapism to the fantasy I write.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:28
Why limit your imagination? I always thought it was great that the Japanese rpgs were so free in thinking.

Free in thinking= off the wall, utterly silly.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:29
I found it dull. I also didn't like its take on the job system, which paled by comparison to the flexible one in FF V, or even the somewhat good one of IX.
The dresspheres? I found it rather interesting. the fact that you can switch abilities in the middle of combat to produce a more effective gouping made it rather interesting to me. but then, I like that kind of flexability.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:30
The dresspheres? I found it rather interesting. the fact that you can switch abilities in the middle of combat to produce a more effective gouping made it rather interesting to me. but then, I like that kind of flexability.
I love flexibility too. It's just that I preferred it in the form of the professions given in V, than the utterly weird dress-sphere system. I like the notion that my characters grow in power. Just changing dresses (or materia for that matter) always put me down.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:30
Free in thinking= off the wall, utterly silly.
in other words... Different.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:30
Free in thinking= off the wall, utterly silly.
If you are that close-minded I can see why you wouldn't derive any pleasure from the FF's, and I am surprised you can from Western rpgs even. Ever stopped a dragon breathing fire on you to tell it "Hey, that's totally not possible!", only to be reduced to human (or whatever race you are) charcoal? :rolleyes:
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:32
in other words... Different.
Scary word, isn't it?
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:33
in other words... Different.

No... Silly. Okay, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

It's just too ridiculous... A bunch of twigs with deformed features fighting slightly more effeminate twigs.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:33
I play Western RPGs. Escapism shouldn't reach the retarded level's of Squall's blade.

Agreed. Swords are affected by gravity (not to mention hair and breasts), people do get dirty when they fight, and above all, magic should be a responsible device, not an interference or something which renders the mundane useless.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:33
I love flexibility too. It's just that I preferred it in the form of the professions given in V, than the utterly weird dress-sphere system. I like the notion that my characters grow in power. Just changing dresses (or materia for that matter) always put me down.
I see you didn't play it to the end. the abilities of each dressphere does grow in ability and power. and each sphere strengthens a different aspect of the character. i.e. Theif = faster on the attack, Warrior = Higher hitpoints. etc... but to each their own. :cool:

btw. ever played FFXI?
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:34
No... Silly. Okay, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

It's just too ridiculous... A bunch of twigs with deformed features fighting slightly more effeminate twigs.
Hmm...what if though in the FF the characters have a more compact, lean muscle structure, hence allowing "twigs" to wield such enormous weapons? Then it wouldn't be ridiculous, would it?
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:36
I see you didn't play it to the end. the abilities of each dressphere does grow in ability and power. and each sphere strengthens a different aspect of the character. i.e. Theif = faster on the attack, Warrior = Higher hitpoints. etc... but to each their own. :cool:
It's still the fact that the whole concept feels so artificial. I know that the dresspheres impact the characters in the way you noted, but it's a far cry from V and IX's systems (although IX did not let you switch professions).

btw. ever played FFXI?
Only briefly. It's enjoyable, but I can't afford having 4 MMORPGs at once.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:37
Hmm...what if though in the FF the characters have a more compact, lean muscle structure, hence allowing "twigs" to wield such enormous weapons? Then it wouldn't be ridiculous, would it?


"wait a second....a spikey haired guy fighting a cactus? no no this doesnt make any sense at all I mean it's only called final fantasy...."

:rolleyes:

don't worry about it Eur, some people just don't get it.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:37
Hmm...what if though in the FF the characters have a more compact, lean muscle structure, hence allowing "twigs" to wield such enormous weapons? Then it wouldn't be ridiculous, would it?

They'd have to have a pretty freaky centre of gravity to be able to weild those stupid things.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:37
They'd have to have a pretty freaky centre of gravity to be able to weild those stupid things.
:rolleyes: It is a fantasy universe. Not Earth II.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:37
Agreed. Swords are affected by gravity (not to mention hair and breasts), people do get dirty when they fight, and above all, magic should be a responsible device, not an interference or something which renders the mundane useless.true, like swimming with weapons and sheilds in their hands... always running around with weapons drawn... sitting down increasing the chances of being attacked... healing someone can make you a target...


Oh wait, that's Everquest.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:38
Hmm...what if though in the FF the characters have a more compact, lean muscle structure, hence allowing "twigs" to wield such enormous weapons? Then it wouldn't be ridiculous, would it?

You could be a musclebound giant and still have trouble with someof those weapons. It would be like fighting in a vat of taffy trying to get that thing through the air.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:38
"wait a second....a spikey haired guy fighting a cactus? no no this doesnt make any sense at all I mean it's only called final fantasy...."

:rolleyes:

don't worry about it Eur, some people just don't get it.
I just don't understand how you can play a fantasy game with such a mindset. Why bother? :confused:
Kazus
22-05-2006, 17:39
Nah, only Kafka's like that

UH, SEPHIROTH ANYONE?

Sephiroth was a typical homoerotic bishounen. Slender body, long white hair, blue eyes...how can you say it was only Kefka?
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:39
Only briefly. It's enjoyable, but I can't afford having 4 MMORPGs at once.just wondering. heard rumors that FFXII will be using a similar system for combat and such.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:39
I just don't understand how you can play a fantasy game with such a mindset. Why bother? :confused:

maybe some people just like to bitch.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:39
I think the key term here, in all of this, is "suspension of disbelief". It's a different threshold for different people, ultimately. I like heavy things to be heavy.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:40
I'm pretty sure that in magicland they still have physics.

With a name like 'Final Fantasy', it shouldn't have got past number one.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:40
You could be a musclebound giant and still have trouble with someof those weapons. It would be like fighting in a vat of taffy trying to get that thing through the air.
I know, but then again this is fantasy. The character's anatomies and the world's physics could (and probably do) differ greatly from the real world's. Also, those weapons are usually infused with magic.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:40
UH, SEPHIROTH ANYONE?

Sephiroth was a typical homoerotic bishounen. Slender body, long white hair, blue eyes...how can you say it was only Kefka?

Actually, he said it was only Kafka. That raises some interesting questions.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:40
just wondering. heard rumors that FFXII will be using a similar system for combat and such.
Yeah, I noticed that. It looks really similar too. They are doing away with the turn based rubbish apparently.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:42
I'm pretty sure that in magicland they still have physics.

With a name like 'Final Fantasy', it shouldn't have got past number one.
Why would it? Can you not envisage any reality different to the one we inhabit? Are you really that earth-bound?

And to the second bit, clearly your opinion.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:42
UH, SEPHIROTH ANYONE?

Sephiroth was a typical homoerotic bishounen. Slender body, long white hair, blue eyes...how can you say it was only Kefka?
can't picture Sephiroth worrying about his makeup. remember, he's a genetically created warrior. he was made not to need makeup.
[NS]Piekrom
22-05-2006, 17:42
yo forgot final fantasy mystic quest for the super nes on of the last on that system
Kazus
22-05-2006, 17:42
Actually, he said it was only Kafka. That raises some interesting questions.

Yeah, like "If you dont even know the villain's name, you have probably never even played the game to know that Kefka was actually one of the better villains."

I think Kefka, as much of a bitch as he was, is probably 3rd next to Zande (FF3, not 6, 3) and Garland (FF1, and yes i need to clarify because I can guarantee many of you never played it).
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:43
There are so many things you could do in the time you fanboys/girls spend playing that crap. You could learn to play Mornington Crescent!
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:43
can't picture Sephiroth worrying about his makeup. remember, he's a genetically created warrior. he was made not to need makeup.

But the least he could do is get a little dirty during a fight.
Kazus
22-05-2006, 17:43
can't picture Sephiroth worrying about his makeup. remember, he's a genetically created warrior. he was made not to need makeup.

http://www.khmaniacs.com/imagenes/walls/SephirothKHManiacsWall_800.jpg

Look at him...LOOK AT HIM...He's, well, beautful!
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:44
Yeah, like "If you dont even know the villain's name, you have probably never even played the game to know that Kefka was actually one of the better villains."

I think Kefka, as much of a bitch as he was, is probably 3rd next to Zande (FF3, not 6, 3) and Garland (FF1, and yes i need to clarify because I can guarantee many of you never played it).
Garland in FF 9 was awesome. He had a weakness though. He could be silenced. :confused: My fave villain was definitely Ultimecia though. I haven't really played FF 1.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:44
I'm pretty sure that in magicland they still have physics.

With a name like 'Final Fantasy', it shouldn't have got past number one.
actually, the Name Final Fantasy was chosen because it was the last rpg game Squaresoft was going to make before shutting down. however, sales of that game pulled the company out into the black. and allowed them to create other FRPGS like the Chrono series as well as other games.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:44
Yeah, like "If you dont even know the villain's name, you have probably never even played the game to know that Kefka was actually one of the better villains."

I think Kefka, as much of a bitch as he was, is probably 3rd next to Zande (FF3, not 6, 3) and Garland (FF1, and yes i need to clarify because I can guarantee many of you never played it).

I can't take any villain named "Garland" seriously. I'd just walk in and wrap him around a Christmas tree.
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:44
http://www.khmaniacs.com/imagenes/walls/SephirothKHManiacsWall_800.jpg

Look at him...LOOK AT HIM...He's, well, beautful!
If only he were real. :/ I know a guy who looks almost identical to him though.
Ageata
22-05-2006, 17:45
FFX is my favourite, yhouha fru rydac ed lyh ku du ramm.;)
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:46
actually, the Name Final Fantasy was chosen because it was the last rpg game Squaresoft was going to make before shutting down. however, sales of that game pulled the company out into the black. and allowed them to create other FRPGS like the Chrono series as well as other games.
I wonder which will be the real Final Fantasy though, the last one they pump out. I mean it's now going to 14 of them (if you include FFX2).
[NS]Piekrom
22-05-2006, 17:48
I wonder which will be the real Final Fantasy though, the last one they pump out. I mean it's now going to 14 of them (if you include FFX2).
you are still not counting mystic quest
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:48
I wonder which will be the real Final Fantasy though, the last one they pump out. I mean it's now going to 14 of them (if you include FFX2).

as a long time fan of Final Fantasy, I really think they should end the series.

as the simpsons need to end, so does FF.
The Gate Builders
22-05-2006, 17:48
At least with the Simpsons you can say it's likely to end with the new film.
Kazus
22-05-2006, 17:49
I can't take any villain named "Garland" seriously. I'd just walk in and wrap him around a Christmas tree.

Dont cry when he transforms into CHAOS.
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 17:49
Piekrom']you are still not counting mystic quest

we do not mention mystic quest

and if you are going to mentoin that you might as well bring up the FF Adventures and Legends games as well, oh and Tactics
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:50
as a long time fan of Final Fantasy, I really think they should end the series.

as the simpsons need to end, so does FF.
I am of the same opinion. They will end up watering down the series. What they should do is release one last chef d'oeuvre, and let the series go out with a bang, so people remember it for all its best parts.
JuNii
22-05-2006, 17:50
I wonder which will be the real Final Fantasy though, the last one they pump out. I mean it's now going to 14 of them (if you include FFX2).they'll take a page out of Cracked Magazine.
"the absolutely, positivily Final Final Fantasy (and we really, really, really mean it this time, for sure, honest, swear to God.. part XXI)"
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:50
Dont cry when he transforms into CHAOS.

You mean like when one of the cats starts tugging on him and knocks some of the ornaments off?
[NS]Piekrom
22-05-2006, 17:50
well of course why not
Europa Maxima
22-05-2006, 17:51
they'll take a page out of Cracked Magazine.
"the absolutely, positivily Final Final Fantasy (and we really, really, really mean it this time, for sure, honest, swear to God.. part XXI)"
More like part CXXI.
Kazus
22-05-2006, 17:56
You mean like when one of the cats starts tugging on him and knocks some of the ornaments off?

Insolent fool! Feel the wrath of NUKE!
Kazus
22-05-2006, 17:58
More like part CXXI.

Dude, Japan pumps out Final Fantasies like babies. They are probably on M by now, and we americans are just not (cr)asian enough to keep up.
Megaloria
22-05-2006, 17:58
Insolent fool! Feel the wrath of NUKE!

Megaloria cast Weapons Inspection!
Garland was arrested!
(Insert victory music).
Wiztopia
22-05-2006, 17:58
The best Final Fantasy was FF6. Great characters and great story. Some enemies were really cheap like MagiMaster (I actually beat him without using Life3.) Kefka was one of the best villians ever. I have one question: who was eviler/twisted Kefka or Luca Blight :p
Minoriteeburg
22-05-2006, 18:00
More like part CXXI.

i guess if the money can be made, why should they stop?

even though they should.
Kazus
22-05-2006, 18:00
Megaloria cast Weapons Inspection!
Garland was arrested!
(Insert victory music).

These arent the nukes youre looking for.
Kazus
22-05-2006, 18:01
Some enemies were really cheap like MagiMaster (I actually beat him without using Life3.)

First of all...Impossible!

Second, I HATE ULTROS.
Wiztopia
22-05-2006, 18:04
First of all...Impossible!

Second, I HATE ULTROS.


I got very very lucky. Locke was the only one standing with 600 HP left.

SEAFOOD SOUP!
Kazus
22-05-2006, 18:05
I got very very lucky. Locke was the only one standing with 600 HP left.

SEAFOOD SOUP!

I do not believe this! Screenshot or it didn't happen!