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Cell phone dilemma

TJHairball
17-05-2006, 19:29
OK, so after many years, I've decided to get a ... cellular telephone, the device is called, and join the 21st century, for a variety of reasons we won't go into. I've been reading over lots of fine print, but I've still got something of a dilemma.

I am frequently found in the Appalachian Mountains. I've asked around, and people tell me that Verizon gets the best reception in the area, and Cingular "OK" reception. Most of the other carriers don't really seem to cover very well, or for other reasons, I've decided their plans don't look good.

So here's my dilemma. I don't talk on cell phones much, so the "pay as you go" type of plan looks attractive.

Problem: I'm in the US, so "pay as you go" plans are distinctly second rate. I read that they're well treated in the UK, but I don't live there. So my choice essentially boils down to this:

Do I get the Cingular pay-as-you-go, or the minimal Verizon contract plan?

I've done all the math.

The Cingular plan is cheaper ($10 activation, $30+ dollar cell phone, $0.25/minute, minimum $100/year expenditure to keep active) provided I talk as much on the phone as I do now. (Since I don't have a cell phone, and I'm rarely in reach of my permanent land line, that's about once a month for five minutes.)

Unless some of my numerous friends and relatives who I never really talk to because I don't have a cell phone decide it's a good idea to call me once every other week or so now that.

The Verizon plan offers more airtime than I can imagine using (all things considered), and they throw in the phone for free or heavily discounted. (There's a Verizon "pay as you go" plan, but with a $0.99/day maintainence fee, $20 activation fee, and the requirement to buy one of their more expensive phones, it's not actually any cheaper, so it's not even worth considering.)

Con: It costs $480 per year. That's severely overcharging for my bandwidth usage in my book. I may have tax refund checks staring me in the face, but $480 per year just to talk with people? Unless I get in the habit of having an hour-long every two weeks, which I haven't done since I was a teenager, it's going to cost more. And there's time commitment strings attached there, too.

Pro: If getting a cell phone changes my talking habits, and I become more social as a result (and many of my friends are no longer available on IM as much, but do use cell phones), then it's actually cheaper, and the pricing structure doesn't discourage this. It might be nice to catch up with friends and relatives and not worry about the bill.

But there's more. I'm reading online, and hear that Verizon is unfriendly to unions, while Cingular is fully unionized. Is this just something Cingular talks about to make a point, or are they really treating their employees better? Should I be going with Cingular in spite of the fact I may have to wander around for a bit in order to get reception in order to spite the anti-unionists?

I'm also open to suggestions on what brands of hardware are reliable, but the big question is which one of those two to go with.
UpwardThrust
17-05-2006, 19:33
Well if it helps I have been very satisfied with verizion

As for brands I have loved the two LG phones I have owned
Peechland
17-05-2006, 19:38
I've had excellent service from cingular...easy to pay my bil online.I like my plan. 450 anytime minutes with rollover(which i have 1400 roll over anytime minutes currently) unlimited nights and weekends, free long distance, no roaming, voicemail, caller ID...all of that other stuff. It's 39.99 per month and with the taxes, my bill is consistently $43.87 per month. I would avoid pay as you go at all costs. They are designed for people who have a less than perfect credit history so the rates are very high. Less bang for the buck. Congrats on getting a cell.!



EDIT $43.87....had a moment of lysdexia.
Khadgar
17-05-2006, 19:40
However told you Verizon gets good reception in the applacians, they lied. I work for a trucking company, so far I've not found any cell phone network that's not hit or miss there, mostly miss.
23Eris
17-05-2006, 19:41
I have to agree with Peech on this. I actually have the same plan from Cingular. Great reception and cheap nationwide coverage. I did though add on two extras, text messsages 50/mo for like 2.99 and also the warranty for 4.99 that covers pretty much everything. I'm a walking disaster film with my phone, so I need it.
UpwardThrust
17-05-2006, 19:45
I've had excellent service from cingular...easy to pay my bil online.I like my plan. 450 anytime minutes with rollover(which i have 1400 roll over anytime minutes currently) unlimited nights and weekends, free long distance, no roaming, voicemail, caller ID...all of that other stuff. It's 39.99 per month and with the taxes, my bill is consistently $34.87 per month. I would avoid pay as you go at all costs. They are designed for people who have a less than perfect credit history so the rates are very high. Less bang for the buck. Congrats on getting a cell.!
I get roughly the same benifits and price out of verizion

Does not hurt that there is only 1 cell phone company that gets ANY service in my office (guess which one it is)

If I want to get a call at work, I dont have a choice
Peechland
17-05-2006, 19:46
Edit: $43.87 per month with taxes.
TJHairball
17-05-2006, 20:14
However told you Verizon gets good reception in the applacians, they lied. I work for a trucking company, so far I've not found any cell phone network that's not hit or miss there, mostly miss.I trust them though :_: Actually, they didn't say Verizon got good reception; they said that Verizon got the best reception out of all the providers they're familiar with, in their experience, in that particular area (which is where I spend most, albeit not all, of my time in the region.)

So the pay as you go is generally crappy in spite of the potentially lower cost?
Peechland
17-05-2006, 20:19
I trust them though :_: Actually, they didn't say Verizon got good reception; they said that Verizon got the best reception out of all the providers they're familiar with, in their experience, in that particular area (which is where I spend most, albeit not all, of my time in the region.)

So the pay as you go is generally crappy in spite of the potentially lower cost?


Yes its crappy and I have yet to meet someone who uses the pay as you go who pays less than I do each monTH. They complain how it constantly requires you to purchase minutes. They they stay stressed about having enough minutes and its just a mess.
The Nazz
17-05-2006, 20:21
Cingular is very pro-union, even though they were purchased by AT&T recently. I just switched over from Sprint, because Sprint's billing service went to shit after they merged with Nextel. I started getting sharged for ringers, etc., that I'd never requested.
The Infinite Dunes
17-05-2006, 20:30
$100 minimum spend per year to keep the account active? That's crap...

But still, the pay-as-you seems better. It means you have to have a 10 minute phone call each week. Seems by far the best option. You don't sound like you'd come to anywhere near getting the most out of the contract service.
Romanar
17-05-2006, 20:44
Yes its crappy and I have yet to meet someone who uses the pay as you go who pays less than I do each monTH. They complain how it constantly requires you to purchase minutes. They they stay stressed about having enough minutes and its just a mess.

Well, I use Verizon's pay as you go, and I pay between $15 and $30 a month. I mainly got the cellphone for rare emergencies and 90% of my calls are on the landline. It DOES require you to purchase minutes too often, and I have to make sure to buy extra minutes before I go on vacation, but it's still the cheapest option for me. Of course, the more you use the phone, the more likely you are to want something better.
AB Again
17-05-2006, 20:49
I would simply reconsider the reasons, and end up not getting one.
If you are going to have to pay nearly $10 a week for a device that doesn't do what you want, then scrap the idea of getting the device and find some other solution to the problem.
Dempublicents1
17-05-2006, 20:56
I don't know about all that, but I know I had some very bad experiences with Cingular representatives outright lying to me (albeit back when they were actually BellSouth) and overcharging.

The one problem I had with Verizon was quickly resolved upon talking to a manager.
Peechland
17-05-2006, 20:59
I don't know about all that, but I know I had some very bad experiences with Cingular representatives outright lying to me (albeit back when they were actually BellSouth) and overcharging.

The one problem I had with Verizon was quickly resolved upon talking to a manager.


Right...as did I. But they've been just Cinuglar for several years now havent they?
TJHairball
17-05-2006, 21:06
I would simply reconsider the reasons, and end up not getting one.
If you are going to have to pay nearly $10 a week for a device that doesn't do what you want, then scrap the idea of getting the device and find some other solution to the problem.Well, the last time it occurred to me that it really might be convenient to get a cell, I hopped down to the store, saw the thousand dollar two-year commitment, said "That's ridiculous!" and went back home.

Since then I've been weighing the options, and while it doesn't look great, it is indeed time for me to get a cell. It's a question now, though, of what the best deal for me is. I know I'm getting cheated in the sense that the cell phone industry is going to be making cash off me, but it's a question of trying to get cheated the least.
Dempublicents1
17-05-2006, 21:07
Right...as did I. But they've been just Cinuglar for several years now havent they?

Yes, but some of the problems I had with them carried over even after they became Cingular. That's why I got out of the contract ASAP and switched to Verizon.
The Nazz
17-05-2006, 21:51
Yes, but some of the problems I had with them carried over even after they became Cingular. That's why I got out of the contract ASAP and switched to Verizon.
It's funny--put ten people in a room, and they'll have twenty stories about shitty cell phone companies and what lying sacks they all are. Some folks I know have never had a problem with Sprint--neither did I until about three months ago, and now I wouldn't go back to them on a bet, but I'm happy with Cingular.
AnarchyeL
17-05-2006, 23:08
Go with the Cingular pay-as-you-go plan. I have a similar plan with T-Mobile (which gets excellent reception in my area, but probably not in yours), and I have no complaints. In addition to the advantages you mention, it is nice for me because during my summer break (when I have virtually no use for a cell phone), I can just let payments slide for three months until I actually need it again.

Also, pay-as-you-go is a good way to start. If you discover that your usage pattern changes, you can always switch over to a contract later. If you take a contract, however, you're stuck with it even if you never use it.