NationStates Jolt Archive

Presumably the RIAA has never heard of cassette recorders? It never occured to them that people have been making tapes from the radio for years?

I appreciate that this software divides things up into tracks, but thats no different from making a list of all the songs on a tape.


Satellite radio in recordings row

US satellite radio firm XM is being sued by record labels over a gadget that lets listeners record songs.

The recording industry said XM's Inno device, which stores music and divides it into tracks, infringes copyright.

The lawsuit seeks $150,000 (£79,537) in damages for every song copied by XM customers to an Inno gadget.

XM defended itself by saying that music stored on the device cannot be moved elsewhere and only lasts as long as a customer is a subscriber.

Royalty talks

The Inno device turns a radio broadcast into a download service that resembles Apple's iTunes, said the Recording Industry Association of America in its lawsuit.

The RIAA represents record labels such as Vivendi Universal, Sony BMG, Warner and EMI.

XM said it would defend itself vigorously against the legal action.

It added that the Inno does not let people download music on demand like iTunes and only lets listeners record radio shows as the law has allowed for "decades".

The lawsuit comes after talks between the RIAA and XM on licence agreements for the Inno device broke down.

The RIAA and XM are currently re-negotiating royalty contracts for radio broadcasts.

XM's rival Sirius Satellite Radio recently agreed to pay the RIAA licence fees for its S50 recording device.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4989498.stm

Ah yes, I remember the good old days when you just popped a cassette tape in the stereo and made a mixed tape for your bf/gf. No one got their panties in a twist back then.

Ah yes, I remember the good old days when you just popped a cassette tape in the stereo and made a mixed tape for your bf/gf. No one got their panties in a twist back then.


I'm guessing you remember recording on 8 tracks as well.
I know I do.

Ey, what a crock. If the RIAA wins this one, I'm committing seppuku.

I'm guessing you remember recording on 8 tracks as well.
I know I do.


I never recorded anything on an 8 track but I remember dancing and pretending to sing into a hairbrush to my moms 8 track collection......Donna Summer, Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, etc.

" I want some Hot Stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some hott stuff baby tonight.....I want some hot stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some lovin' gotta have some stuff tonight!"


"I write the songs that make the whole world sing.....I write the songs of love and special things...."


*walks away hanging head in shame*

Most MP3 players has a "record" function, which you can use without limitations and can be moved wherever you want. Then again, the makers of MP3 players aren't small businesses, like this Inno thing. Better beat only those who can't hurt us!

Ah yes, I remember the good old days when you just popped a cassette tape in the stereo and made a mixed tape for your bf/gf. No one got their panties in a twist back then.

Oh yeah? Does the phrase 'HOME TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC' ring no bells with you?

Ah... here we go:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bc/Home_taping_is_killing_music.png/200px-Home_taping_is_killing_music.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_taping_is_killing_music

Oh yeah? Does the phrase 'HOME TAPING IS KILLING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY' ring no bells with you?


Nope, I was too busy in my make shift recording studio. Which consisted of a stereo with speakers about 4 feet high and a shoe box full of cassette tapes. Oh and cute flowery stickers.

And here I thought that was why radio cassette players came with a record button.

I'm guessing you remember recording on 8 tracks as well.
I know I do.
Hah, before my time. I do remember my dad trying to sort out his boxes of cassettes a couple of years ago. I think some of them had desintigrated.

Nope, I was too busy in my make shift recording studio. Which consisted of a stereo with speakers about 4 feet high and a shoe box full of cassette tapes. Oh and cute flowery stickers.

Speaking of which, the one place where I have ever experienced the greatest amount of illegal copying of music was in the Warner-Chappell Music Publishing tape room.

I never recorded anything on an 8 track but I remember dancing and pretending to sing into a hairbrush to my moms 8 track collection......Donna Summer, Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, etc.

" I want some Hot Stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some hott stuff baby tonight.....I want some hot stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some lovin' gotta have some stuff tonight!"


"I write the songs that make the whole world sing.....I write the songs of love and special things...."


*walks away hanging head in shame*

I'll admit this because its you- Those same 8 tracks were in my house.

You may have forgotten- ABBA, The Bee Gees, and some others my memory has purged or compressed.

Edit: It wasnt all that bad- we had Meatloaf, Elvis, Led Zep-The DOORS!

Oh yeah? Does the phrase 'HOME TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC' ring no bells with you?

Ah... here we go:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bc/Home_taping_is_killing_music.png/200px-Home_taping_is_killing_music.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_taping_is_killing_music

That's some funny stuff. :D

I never recorded anything on an 8 track but I remember dancing and pretending to sing into a hairbrush to my moms 8 track collection......Donna Summer, Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, etc.

" I want some Hot Stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some hott stuff baby tonight.....I want some hot stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some lovin' gotta have some stuff tonight!"


"I write the songs that make the whole world sing.....I write the songs of love and special things...."


*walks away hanging head in shame*
Thank god my dad was a hard rock vinyl collector

I grew up on JOJO GUNN and Mott The Hoople and Stepenwolf .. an Zeplin …

I never recorded anything on an 8 track but I remember dancing and pretending to sing into a hairbrush to my moms 8 track collection......Donna Summer, Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, etc.

" I want some Hot Stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some hott stuff baby tonight.....I want some hot stuff baby this evening.....gotta have some lovin' gotta have some stuff tonight!"


"I write the songs that make the whole world sing.....I write the songs of love and special things...."


*walks away hanging head in shame*
You forgot Neil:

"Sweeeeet Caroliiiiiine (BOP BAH DAAAAAH) good times never seemed so goooood..."

Never be ashamed of your 70s pedigree, Peech.

I'll admit this because its you- Those same 8 tracks were in my house.

You may have forgotten- ABBA, The Bee Gees, and some others my memory has purged or compressed.


Those Bee Gees.....sigh.

My dad had a band back when I was a baby and we traveled on the road. He opened for the Doobie Brothers once. Michael McDonald held me and took me around the swimming pool at the hotel in my baby float. I think he might have been hitting on my mom.

CL- we will soon realize how old we are when someone askes "who is Michael McDonald/Doobie Brothers?"

*continues pirating from his parents LP collection*

Gotta love cassette tapes. God's gift to the cheapskate.

I think the term 'unwinnable' can be applied to the RIAA's case.

Hah, before my time. I do remember my dad trying to sort out his boxes of cassettes a couple of years ago. I think some of them had desintigrated.

IIRC, it would most likely just be the pinch rollers which had disintegrated, leaving the actual tapes still playable if cleaned and placed in new cartridges. Somebody out there does still make new cartridge casings for the die-hard 8-track afficiandos.

*continues pirating from his parents LP collection*

Gotta love cassette tapes. God's gift to the cheapskate.

I think the term 'unwinnable' can be applied to the RIAA's case.

Bah... You're recording vinyl to cassette?

The horror... The horror...

Bah... You're recording vinyl to cassette?

The horror... The horror...
Lol my dad has like a thousand hours "ripped" to real to real tape lol

Bah... You're recording vinyl to cassette?

The horror... The horror...

:p

I prefer vinyl myself but I can't record it. But my GF loves Flanders and Swann so who am I to say no?

You forgot Neil:

"Sweeeeet Caroliiiiiine (BOP BAH DAAAAAH) good times never seemed so goooood..."

Never be ashamed of your 70s pedigree, Peech.


haha.....I liked Neil. "You dont bring me flowers.....anymore." Him and Streisand.

"Forever in blue jeans babe!"


*gets dizzy from all the flashbacks*

Those Bee Gees.....sigh.

My dad had a band back when I was a baby and we traveled on the road. He opened for the Doobie Brothers once. Michael McDonald held me and took me around the swimming pool at the hotel in my baby float. I think he might have been hitting on my mom.

CL- we will soon realize how old we are when someone askes "who is Michael McDonald/Doobie Brothers?"
Cool story!

"As he rises to her apology
Anybody else would surely know
Just watchin' her glow
What a fool belieeeeeeeeves..."

"Are you
Tellin' me the things you're gonna do for me
I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see
Takin' it to the streets..."

No such question from me!

Bah... You're recording vinyl to cassette?

The horror... The horror...

Hey!

Thats how i made a mix tape of Led Zep, Cream, Elton John (early good stuff), Queen (Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrr Heart Attack), Steppenwolf, Tubular Bells and stuff like that...

f****n ruled!

Those Bee Gees.....sigh.

My dad had a band back when I was a baby and we traveled on the road. He opened for the Doobie Brothers once. Michael McDonald held me and took me around the swimming pool at the hotel in my baby float. I think he might have been hitting on my mom.

CL- we will soon realize how old we are when someone askes "who is Michael McDonald/Doobie Brothers?"


Thats a cool experience, huh? What did your father play-guitar, drums?

According to the callendar, I'm 38 yrs old. I often feel much younger than that.

Thats a cool experience, huh? What did your father play-guitar, drums?

According to the callendar, I'm 38 yrs old. I often feel much younger than that.


He was the leader/manager and played keyboard and vocals. They did a lot of rock, stuff from the 50's to the 70's. One night he turned off the bottom keyboard and put me on a stool and i would bang on it. The crowd loved it and one drunk said "LOOK AT THAT DAMN BABY PLAY!"

The fact that my parents had me in night clubs at the age of 1 might explain a lot.

I prefer vinyl myself but I can't record it. But my GF loves Flanders and Swann so who am I to say no?

You aren't, by any chance, going out with Bottle, are you?

You aren't, by any chance, going out with Bottle, are you?

Not so far as I know...

Not so far as I know...

Thought it unlikely, I was just surprised when she, as a thirtysomething American revealed a pretty indepth knowledge of Flanders & Swann one day. There can't be a great many young F&S fans out there any more.

Thought it unlikely, I was just surprised when she, as a thirtysomething American revealed a pretty indepth knowledge of Flanders & Swann one day. There can't be a great many young F&S fans out there any more.

I'm an 18-year old Brit, there's still a few of us left :D

I'm an 18-year old Brit, there's still a few of us left :D

There are many 18 year old Brits, but there is a much smaller subset of 18 year old Brits acquainted with the works of Flanders & Swann.

There are many 18 year old Brits, but there is a much smaller subset of 18 year old Brits acquainted with the works of Flanders & Swann.

I'm going to have to go find some tracks by them now just to see what you're all going on about! :D

IIRC, it would most likely just be the pinch rollers which had disintegrated, leaving the actual tapes still playable if cleaned and placed in new cartridges. Somebody out there does still make new cartridge casings for the die-hard 8-track afficiandos.
No, these were cassette cassettes. Like tapes. I've never seen an 8-track in my life. Gods that makes me feel young...

Thanks though.

There are many 18 year old Brits, but there is a much smaller subset of 18 year old Brits acquainted with the works of Flanders & Swann.

'tis a pity.

*sings* Mud, mud, glorious mud:)

I'm going to have to go find some tracks by them now just to see what you're all going on about! :D

Comedic song.

If you like them, then you would probably also like the late lamented Jake Thackray.

http://www.jakethackray.com/index.php

'tis a pity.

*sings* Mud, mud, glorious mud:)


Wait wait wait....Its them who did that song?


If so then my parents have got about 4 tapes of stuff by them back at their house....I used to listen to them all teh time as a kid...

Time to dust of the tape player once again!

Wait wait wait....Its them who did that song?


If so then my parents have got about 4 tapes of stuff by them back at their house....I used to listen to them all teh time as a kid...

Time to dust of the tape player once again!

It is indeed.

There's always someone who recognises that song, it's a great one for kids to sing so they remember it:cool:

It is indeed.

There's always someone who recognises that song, it's a great one for kids to sing so they remember it:cool:

Yeah, always had it on in the car when my mum was taking me and my little bro places.

"Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood!"

IIRC...