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A few hundred kids in high school were sat down and instructed to fill out this questionaire turn it in and discuss it.

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Was this a good idea?

Hehehe...

Oh, wait. It was terrible idea. The topic of sexual orientation should be kept out of schools. I mean it is a disgusting perversian that we best cover up to prevent the human race from walking down the path of sin.Notice the subtle use of sarcasm?;)

A few hundred kids in high school were sat down and instructed to fill out this questionaire turn it in and discuss it.

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Was this a good idea?
Not sure if they would understand the point it was trying to make ...

Thoes with some life experience can see how this emulates the stupid fucking thing homophobes seem to like to ask homosexuals , but not entirly sure I would have gotten the point at that time or not

He he he. That is an amazing tool, not to mention a fun test.

Its a humorous way to teach tolerance to homophobes. And they teach Sex Ed in high school, so its nothing to worry about.

Not sure if they would understand the point it was trying to make ...

Thoes with some life experience can see how this emulates the stupid fucking thing homophobes seem to like to ask homosexuals , but not entirly sure I would have gotten the point at that time or not

Granted it emulates stupidity. But does it extend it? Goes it even teach it? Is it OK?

Heterosexuals are sexual deviants and must be punished. :sniper:

Heterosexuals are sexual deviants and must be punished. :sniper:

:eek: Uh oh looks like I'm going to have to go into hiding

Its a humorous way to teach tolerance to homophobes. And they teach Sex Ed in high school, so its nothing to worry about.


Would a test opposite this teach tolerance to heterophobes?

Not really sure what the purpose of the test was...

Would a test opposite this teach tolerance to heterophobes?

Well, I think only if there were more heterophobes than homophobes, and if heterosexuality was frowned on by large parts of the public.

Ok just for the hell of it.

1. I dunno, I guess when I saw women's boobs I got a hard on.

2. When I saw the boobs.

3. 22 years later, still getting hard on by looking at boobs.

4. No one really, that's a stupid question.

5. I sat on a Cucumber while gardening (Thank you Dave Attel). Plus let's just say doctors have given me the finger.

6. Guys do not turn me on. What part of getting hard on by boobs do you fail to understand?

7. I'm not married, don't plan on being married, and I keep it in the bedroom like a normal person should.

8. http://www.allscreensaver.com/thumbnail/womenoffantasy.jpg

9. Why the hell do you think I'm not getting married?

10. What are these hetrosexual's places and where can I find them?

On the one hand, yay for sarcasm. On the other hand, why throw your politics at a bunch of high school kids? Are they confirmed anti gay activists or something?

Would a test opposite this teach tolerance to heterophobes?
It is SATIRE

For satire to be satire has to be pointing out in a humorous way the flaws in something. In this case it is satire reflecting the ignorance of many homophobes.

A direct reversal would make it no longer satire, as rather then pointing out a real erronous (for the most part) position you would just be re-enforcing stupid ideals

Heterosexuality is a sin and it must be stamped out either through "re-education" or execution!

All people who disapprove of the gay lifestyle are evil and homophobes. They can't possibly have a legit reason to disapprove of a lifestyle. That would be intolerant.

Heterosexuality is a sin and it must be stamped out either through "re-education" or execution!
It has been proven that with drugs and years of therapy that hetrosexuality can be cured ... we must make sure that this LIFESTYLE CHOICE is corrected

So I guess babies must be made by artificial insemination.

So I guess babies must be made by artificial insemination.
Thats the way god told us to do it ... that is the only right way

Sounds good to me!

NOOOOOOOO! You can't take my men away from me!

Can't I just become fashionably Bi like evey other girl seems to be these days?

Oo thats easy, just use surgery to become a man:D

It is SATIRE

For satire to be satire has to be pointing out in a humorous way the flaws in something. In this case it is satire reflecting the ignorance of many homophobes.

A direct reversal would make it no longer satire, as rather then pointing out a real erronous (for the most part) position you would just be re-enforcing stupid ideals

It wasnt apparantly meant to be "SATIRE"

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Try again

NOOOOOOOO! You can't take my men away from me!

Can't I just become fashionably Bi like evey other girl seems to be these days?
No god hates bisexuals, they are just hetrosexuals in disguise

The path god wants us to walk is by repressing our urges

So I guess babies must be made by artificial insemination.

Don't be silly. Babies are delivered by the magical stork.

It wasnt apparantly meant to be "SATIRE"

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Try again
How does that show it was not satire on the part of the teachers creating it? did I miss something in there?

Wait, what if my urges are to remain celibate? Should I then sleep with random people?

Or what if my urge is to sleep with women, should I then only do so with men?

I'm so confused. I need to see a priest!

Oo thats easy, just use surgery to become a man:D
If god wanted her to be a man, he would have made her a man

it is a sin to fool with gods design

Well, whatever your urges tell you to do, just do the opposite

How does that show it was not satire on the part of the teachers creating it? did I miss something in there?

Yes, for one thing the teachers didnt create it.

Try again.

umm maybe we should be learning things in school, rather than having happy time over personal beliefs. Is anybody listening? I wanna do math!! :confused:

Wait, what if my urges are to remain celibate? Should I then sleep with random people?

Or what if my urge is to sleep with women, should I then only do so with men?

I'm so confused. I need to see a priest!
I am here my daughter ...

God tells us that remaining celabate is a good way to show your love for him. Much better then sleeping with a dirty hetrosexual (which is expressly forbiden in this 2000000 year old book)

umm maybe we should be learning things in school, rather than having happy time over personal beliefs. Is anybody listening? I wanna do math!! :confused:

What is 1 + 2?:)

What is 1 + 2?:)

3.5

How come, when I was in school, we actually had class and stuff?

Where were all the scandals at my school? huh? HUH? Why do I always miss out darnit!?

I am here my daughter ...

God tells us that remaining celabate is a good way to show your love for him. Much better then sleeping with a dirty hetrosexual (which is expressly forbiden in this 2000000 year old book)

Ooooooh father, I love it when you talk all religiously. I think I might need to 'make confession' again.

Yes, for one thing the teachers didnt create it.

Try again.
Well satire on the part of the distributers and creator of said survey anyways

3.5

Its 3:eek:

Maybe we should stick to math instead:D

This doesn't piss me off on so much of a moral level as it does on... some other level. I don't give a fuck bout the homosexuals, all I wanna know is why its ok to belittle any group in a public high school?

Ooooooh father, I love it when you talk all religiously. I think I might need to 'make confession' again.
hehe

S TOP - SPL... - Stephen Lynch Lyrics - Priest Lyrics

deep in prayer my cross to wear

i kneel upon the floor

temptations of a catholic priest aren't easy to ignore

but i can not control myself

he rips my soul apart

for one small sheep among my flock has

stolen the shepherd's heart



altar boy, altar boy

confess your sins to me

you will find the grace of god

inside my rectory



sunday mass or bible class

i catch him in my view

i close my eyes but there he lies

spread eagle on the pew

and when i see him in that frock

my concience goes araye

i'll give him some communion wine thats

spiked with spanish fly



altar boy, altar boy

is it gonna be heaven or hell

you can play my organ all night long

if you promise never to tell



our father

who art in heaven

hallowed be thy name

i could dress him up like the pope and then i'd...

oh dear god, the shame no no no

lead us not into temptation

deliver us from sin

we could pretend that he was jesus christ

and i was mary magdalene



altar boy, altar boy

confess your sins to me

you will find the grace of god

inside my rectory



oh altar boy, oh altar boy

confess your sins to me

you will find the grace of god

inside my rec...

This doesn't piss me off on so much of a moral level as it does on... some other level. I don't give a fuck bout the homosexuals, all I wanna know is why its ok to belittle any group in a public high school?
Who were they belittling?

I mean I dont think this was the best method to point out what fucktards homophobes are, but there are deffinatly worse (like truly treating them like they do us)

Heterosexuals are sexual deviants and must be punished. :sniper:
:fluffle:

How come, when I was in school, we actually had class and stuff?

Where were all the scandals at my school? huh? HUH? Why do I always miss out darnit!?

An accident of when you were born and not having radical activists on your campusses. Im sorry to admit I missed out on pretty much all of the in-your-face teaching as well.

Deviance is best! Damn the man!

Deviance is best! Damn the man!
It is not the man you have to worry about ... you best be scared of god

he is the "man" and what you are doing is WRONG

Who were they belittling?

I mean I dont think this was the best method to point out what fucktards homophobes are, but there are deffinatly worse (like truly treating them like they do us)
Is High School really the place for this?

Don't get me wrong, I really don't mind if someones gay, but I don't think that since you're ina somewhat oppressed minority that you should strike back in the same way.

Argh, most of this is personal philosophy I suppose. I think people should be treated how they would like to be treated. Considering its the "Golden Rule" of my religion and all. It must be important somehow.

God will just have to take me across his knee later. ;)

Deviance is best! Damn the man!

He'll damn you right back, straight to hell!

God will just have to take me across his knee later. ;)
uhhh. What?

Side note, I've been the first post on 3 of the 4 pages of this thread! Woohoo! :fluffle:

Who were they belittling?

I mean I dont think this was the best method to point out what fucktards homophobes are, but there are deffinatly worse (like truly treating them like they do us)

Is that not what this questionaire is doing?

With the exception that it is enforced by a pair of teachers?

So the heteros couldnt even run away?

Why is what is bad for the goose not also bad for the gander?

Is High School really the place for this?

Don't get me wrong, I really don't mind if someones gay, but I don't think that since you're ina somewhat oppressed minority that you should strike back in the same way.

Argh, most of this is personal philosophy I suppose. I think people should be treated how they would like to be treated. Considering its the "Golden Rule" of my religion and all. It must be important somehow.
Ideally no it would be best in other public forums

But with the amout of shit gay highschool students actualy go through, it may be the best way in this case to reach such students and let them know it is NOT alright to fuck with homosexuals lives like that

Is that not what this questionaire is doing?

With the exception that it is enforced by a pair of teachers?

So the heteros couldnt even run away?

Why is what is bad for the goose not also bad for the gander?
If hetrosexuals were suffering half the shit homosexual students do I would say it should be fair for both to inform the student body that discriminating against others is NOT alright

But guess what as the majority hetrosexuals dont have to worry about that.

Ideally no it would be best in other public forums

But with the amout of shit gay highschool students actualy go through, it may be the best way in this case to reach such students and let them know it is NOT alright to fuck with homosexuals lives like that


That is SATIRE surely?

You cant mean that the best way for homosexuals to treat heterosexual high school students is yo "fuck with them hard" first so they know it hurts? I mean, if so then it didnt work with you did it?

If hetrosexuals were suffering half the shit homosexual students do I would say it should be fair for both to inform the student body that discriminating against others is NOT alright

But guess what as the majority hetrosexuals dont have to worry about that.

Why is it preferable that any suffer such nonsense no matter their sexual preference?

take me back to a time when we were all gay like on 'the flintstones'
';) WILMA!'

If hetrosexuals were suffering half the shit homosexual students do I would say it should be fair for both to inform the student body that discriminating against others is NOT alright

But guess what as the majority hetrosexuals dont have to worry about that.
I asked my friend, she's a lesbian. She said she was only made fun of once or twice all through highschool for being gay. Getting made fun of in High School is unavoidable, no matter who you are, so I don't buy that its all that bad.

Besides, if the institutions are decent at all, they're teaching their students to think rather than just to know...

I honestly don't care about the survey one way or another. Do I think homosexuals should be treated the same as hetero-sexuals? Absolutely. They should be given the same kind of respect that heteros srecive and should be free from harassment about their sexual orientation. Its their choice and no one elses business. The suvey though, I don't think will do much of anything except piss off the people who already are ill-disposed towards homosexuals even more. After all, nobody likes an 'uppity' oppressed class.

Personally, if I got a survey like that, I simply wouldn't fill it out even if I were told I had to, whether the questions were of a hetero or homosexual nature. I would be uncomfortable sharing that kind of personal information with people at the school I attended.

Why is it preferable that any suffer such nonsense no matter their sexual preference?
Its not prefferable, but with all the shit going on it may be nessisary

When I was in highschool I was sent to the hospital twice for fights associated with my bisexuality or a friends homosexuality

The first time was just a broken nose when two guys jumped me

The second time I had a lung punctured when I stoped 4 guys from jumping a gay friend of mine (not BF) downtown when he was leaving a bar. (I sent 3 of them to the hospital with me)

This shit DOES happen, and in both cases it was perpetrated by highschool or neer highschool students

Its not prefferable, but with all the shit going on it may be nessisary

When I was in highschool I was sent to the hospital twice for fights associated with my bisexuality or a friends homosexuality

The first time was just a broken nose when two guys jumped me

The second time I had a lung punctured when I stoped 4 guys from jumping a gay friend of mine (not BF) downtown when he was leaving a bar. (I sent 3 of them to the hospital with me)

This shit DOES happen, and in both cases it was perpetrated by highschool or neer highschool students
so it wasn't even at school?

I asked my friend, she's a lesbian. She said she was only made fun of once or twice all through highschool for being gay. Getting made fun of in High School is unavoidable, no matter who you are, so I don't buy that its all that bad.

Besides, if the institutions are decent at all, they're teaching their students to think rather than just to know...
Like in the other post I was sent to the hospital twice.

For some reason homophobes seem to like to focus on us males rather then the females (who wants to pick on what you watch in porno's)

so it wasn't even at school?
First one was

Second one was after school hours by 2 people that were in my grade (the 2 others that I did not know)

Like in the other post I was sent to the hospital twice.

For some reason homophobes seem to like to focus on us males rather then the females (who wants to pick on what you watch in porno's)
I have gay male friends too. None of them are online right now, but I never heard anything about them getting messed with.

Its one thing to stand up for yourself, its another entirely to lower yourself to the level of your attackers by jeering at their own sexuality. It doesn't make you any better than them.

I have gay male friends too. None of them are online right now, but I never heard anything about them getting messed with.

Its one thing to stand up for yourself, its another entirely to lower yourself to the level of your attackers by jeering at their own sexuality. It doesn't make you any better than them.
Who is jeering at their sexuality? hell I did not ever talk to most of these guys before beyond class work

Which brings up an even more interesting question:

Why is it that men seem to always feel the need to resolve every conflict through fighting?

Honestly, sometimes the whole acting tough thing, yeah its hot, but most of the time I just think, "Boys are idiots, I wish I were a lesbian."

Which brings up an even more interesting question:

Why is it that men seem to always feel the need to resolve every conflict through fighting?

Honestly, sometimes the whole acting tough thing, yeah its hot, but most of the time I just think, "Boys are idiots, I wish I were a lesbian."
Not sure ... both times I was only fighting for my life ... I did not really choose to get in either of thoes fights

Someone comes after you with a knife you react

Which brings up an even more interesting question:

Why is it that men seem to always feel the need to resolve every conflict through fighting?

Honestly, sometimes the whole acting tough thing, yeah its hot, but most of the time I just think, "Boys are idiots, I wish I were a lesbian."
A punch in the face can humble a man like you wouldn't imagine. Pain inspires fear, which in its own way inspires respect.

I gotta say Im against any double standard. I dont like this questionaire being forced upon high school students. I would be every bit as much against the school rounding up 200 kids and making them take a questionaire that was the opposite of this one. For any reason real or perceived.

If someone wants to stand on a soapbox and hand these questionaires out on a street corner , fine. Thats fair and proper.

A punch in the face can humble a man like you wouldn't imagine. Pain inspires fear, which in its own way inspires respect.
Yeah, though thankfully age has a more humbling effect

When I got out of that age group and more into a collage setting there has never been another issue really

Punch smunch. Fighting is so passe. I prefer a battle of wits anyday. So much more sexy.

I gotta say Im against any double standard. I dont like this questionaire being forced upon high school students. I would be every bit as much against the school rounding up 200 kids and making them take a questionaire that was the opposite of this one. For any reason real or perceived.

If someone wants to stand on a soapbox and hand these questionaires out on a street corner , fine. Thats fair and proper.
good point.

On a side note, I've apparently decided to incorporate vast amounts of periods into my last post or two.

I have no idea why.

Punch smunch. Fighting is so passe. I prefer a battle of wits anyday. So much more sexy.
to each his own. I can't stand people who say that real men use words not fists. I'm certainly not going to fight about any old thing, but I do believe in the power of a good punch to the face in getting your point across. Let's face it, some people just aren't able to articulate what they think.

to each his own. I can't stand people who say that real men use words not fists. I'm certainly not going to fight about any old thing, but I do believe in the power of a good punch to the face in getting your point across. Let's face it, some people just aren't able to articulate what they think.

True, and those are generally the people I choose not to associate with. Besides which, something tells me I wouldn't have anything in common with them, never having been in a fight myself.