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Coast Guard Petty Officer James Judge said a motion-activated camera on the bow showed Dipiero leaning near a railing at 2:15 a.m. The ship was eight to 10 miles (12 to 16 kilometers) west of Grand Bahama at that time.

Imagine it.

The realisation. The receding lights. The darkness and lapping of water swallowing your screams.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/man.overboard/index.html

Alcohol and open water do not mix.

should have tied himself to the boat

That's awful. And they say drowning is a very painful way to die.

The company are tools of the highest order. Obviously he first thing you do when you think you have a passenger missing is call the coast guard.

He should have been more careful.

And just how long can YOU tread water, eh? :D

I always figure being burned to death by steam would be the worst way to die. I saw that in some movie with angelina jolie as a cop and denzel washington(?) as some crippled investigator person.

That totally freaked me out and reaffirmed my dislike for movies featuring serial killers and so forth.

And just how long can YOU tread water, eh? :D

I can't swim, so I usually stay far away from large bodies of water, like an ocean.

He should have been more careful.
Agreed.

I remember reading about a bunch of sailors who's ship sank and they were forced to tread water for days waiting for rescue.

Then the sharks came. Picked most of them off, one by one, just whenever they were hungry. I think only a few actually made it.

I can't swim, so I usually stay far away from large bodies of water, like an ocean.

The tradition with European sailors is that few if any ever learnt how to swim or even tread water: the idea was to stay on the boat.

I think he was pushed! Its a conspiracy, why else woule the cameras have suddenly cut off, eh?

I think, that this guy had some damaging info on the Bush administration and Karl Rove and Dick Cheney arranged to have him bumped off before he went public.

Or maybe they were too close to the Bermuda Triangle and he just vanished without the rest of the ship?

And just how long can YOU tread water, eh? :D
Speaking for myself, I respect water. Especially cold water, you know, the kind that tightens your chest and slows and shallows your breathing. That stuff is no joke, as I'm sure you will know.

I am very far from being a couch potato, and I've been on boat parties with alcohol, I know the consequences and it's at the back of my mind.

The tradition with European sailors is that few if any ever learnt how to swim or even tread water: the idea was to stay on the boat.

And they wonder why the New World's naval power exceeded that of the Old.

And they wonder why the New World's naval power exceeded that of the Old.
More to do with defense spending reviews. And that's off-topic.

And they wonder why the New World's naval power exceeded that of the Old.

The practices of North Atlantic trawlermen not wanting to prolong the inevitable has little to do with naval power.

The tradition with European sailors is that few if any ever learnt how to swim or even tread water: the idea was to stay on the boat.

Firstly, I find that very hard to believe.

Secondly, though, it would explain how the European Sailor came to be
pictured as the moronic yabo that we so often see him portrayed.

Actually, drowning is not so bad if you simply accept your fate and breath
water with big breaths...

Then you just,.. sort of,.. fade,..... out,.. from oxygen,..... deprivation....

......poof..!

But it would be annoying knowing that your toast, no matter how loud you
yell,.. and that you'll always be remembered as an idiot who fell off a huge
ship with many stabilizers and perfectly good railings because you got sloshed
while wearing un-seaworthy shoes.

Oh well...


-Clamato

Firstly, I find that very hard to believe.

Ok, not all European sailors, however in some communities of sailors the tradition was alive and well at least until the middle of the last century - take trawlermen based in the NE of England, and most Irish harbour workers for example. I personally know one person who worked on a tug for several years, and never learnt how to swim.

Secondly, though, it would explain how the European Sailor came to be
pictured as the moronic yabo that we so often see him portrayed.

Possibly more to do with the majority of people only encountering them when they are laden with spending money and are on holiday out looking for a good time - ie. shore leave.


Actually, drowning is not so bad if you simply accept your fate and breath
water with big breaths...

Thus, why bother learning to swim if it will only mean you take longer to die?

Thus, why bother learning to swim if it will only mean you take longer to die?

Because maybe you only just fell overboard and someone's about to throw you a line to haul you back in, so you only need to know enough to keep from drowning in the interim?

Because maybe you only just fell overboard and someone's about to throw you a line to haul you back in, so you only need to know enough to keep from drowning in the interim?

I'm not claiming the superstition is a rational one, just describing it.

Imagine it.

The realisation. The receding lights. The darkness and lapping of water swallowing your screams.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/man.overboard/index.html

Alcohol and open water do not mix.
I had a couple of pals eject from an A-6, while deployed in the Med. It was cold enough to wear a dry suit, but we didn't usually do that because they were uncomfortable. Anyhow these two guys ejected and found themselves in some 60-70 degree water. They were within sight of the carrier when they went in, but weren't picked up immediately. Then came twilight, followed by night.

At sea, night is really dark. Compounding their problems was the loss of most of their survival gear, including the little life raft that's stowed in a seat pan. It ejects with you, but can be discarded if you are careless. The bombardier/navigator may have died before entering the water; he was never found. The pilot lived through the night, developing severe hypothermia along the way. He ended up dying on the ship's elevator while being transported to sick bay.

I've always thought that the depression caused from knowing that you are going to die from hypothermia compounded by the sight of ships and helicopters all around, while being completely unable to signal them, would just be to great to bear. I've wondered since that time if it wouldn't be better to slip out of my life vest and let myself drown than face the prolonged misery. Lucky for me, I never had to.

I hear alcohol gets you drunk.

At least he doesn't have to live in Ohio anymore.

This is just another case of a drunken fool suffering the consequences of his actions. How about blaming the idiot?

If a person falls overboard on a large oceanliner, you will inevitably be sucked under the huge wake of the boat. You will never be found. This is probably what happened here.

Given the height of most cruise ships, he did not survive impact with the water.

And just how long can YOU tread water, eh? :D

Unfortunately, I can tread water for a very very long time. Too much time to contemplate the inevitable.

Speaking for myself, I respect water. Especially cold water, you know, the kind that tightens your chest and slows and shallows your breathing. That stuff is no joke, as I'm sure you will know.

I am very far from being a couch potato, and I've been on boat parties with alcohol, I know the consequences and it's at the back of my mind.

Not to mention when your brain thinks you've held your breath for too long and forces you into swallowing water into your lungs and you lie their helpless as the water slowly fills your body before passing out. And you still aren't dead yet...

Drowning and Burning... Ow.

I can't swim, so I usually stay far away from large bodies of water, like an ocean.

i hate being on/in open water...yet i can swim like a fish.

i also like being near water,as i live on the beach...but i only go in to my knees..lol...tease me..my kids do...but i am terrified of sharks...

i go out with friends on their boats in the ocean..if i cant see land..i freak out...if i can see land i can swim to it..or more likely run on water,cause i am so scared of getting eatin alive by a shark.

it is irrational i admit,yet i love wwatching the sun rise over the ocean...i love being near it..but in it..no thanks.

i went skinny dipping with my ex,her husband and some other friends last summer,and i was drunk and up to my neck...i felt something brush my leg and basically ran on water.

never again